Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux - Is It Okay for Girls to Go Out to Clubs?
Aired: 2025-03-12
Duration: 03:57


=== Why Women Go Clubbing (03:57) ===

[00:00:00]  All right.
[00:00:04]  I had a friend I knew since high, I think you mean school, who dumped something like 30,000 to 50,000 Canadian on his trollop of a girlfriend who went clubbing without him.
[00:00:15]  He paid for her Uber rides, dinners, drove 100 kilometers to see her.
[00:00:20]  He never worked a real job and was spending his dad's money on her for the most part, mid-twenties.
[00:00:25]  I got away from him.
[00:00:26]  Yeah.
[00:00:27]  Yes, very sad.
[00:00:28]  Very sad.
[00:00:32]  It's funny because there is this conversation.
[00:00:35]  Now, I obviously don't want to take the Whatever podcast to be generally representative of modern women, although I know there are some people who do think that it is, and I'm half and half.
[00:00:47]  I think the podcast is very interesting, and they're good debaters.
[00:00:52]  The men are good debaters, and they have very succinct and brilliant things to say, so there's that.
[00:00:59]  I think, of course, bringing on sex workers with no particular experience in intellectual conversations is a little bit of a clay pigeon shoot when the clay pigeons are stapled to the end of your gun.
[00:01:10]  But there is this debate that goes on on the Whatever podcast, which is, is it acceptable if a woman is in a relationship, like she's a girlfriend, is it acceptable for her to go to bars and clubs, you know, dressed up, sexy, on her own, right?
[00:01:27]  It's a big...
[00:01:28]  It's a big question.
[00:01:29]  I've never faced that because generally, I don't know how to praise myself, but generally the fact is that when I was dating women, they'd want to spend time with me.
[00:01:38]  Now, if we went to a club, we would go to a club.
[00:01:40]  I started to go to clubs when I was like 15 or 16 years of age to even like 19 plus nightclubs.
[00:01:47]  I learned how to dance and how to be cool.
[00:01:50]  And I remember my social cachet went up quite a bit in high school when I'd be going to clubs for like six months.
[00:01:57]  And a bunch of kids from, the cool kids from high school showed up at the club and I was out there dancing with girls and chatting with people and all that.
[00:02:04]  And my social cachet just kind of went through the roof.
[00:02:06]  I remember that quite clearly.
[00:02:08]  They were all kind of amazed to be there.
[00:02:09]  And I was like, hey, how you doing?
[00:02:11]  So, daddy, daddy cool, Joe smooth, chick magnet.
[00:02:15]  So, yeah, this sort of question, well, girls go to clubs.
[00:02:19]  And of course, the girls all say the same thing.
[00:02:22]  It's kind of like an NPC thing, which is like, well, if you don't want me to go to clubs, You're just insecure, right?
[00:02:29]  But of course, it's not just a matter of insecurity.
[00:02:31]  It's that if you want to be in a monogamous relationship, then you have to get your attractiveness and sexual validation from your partner.
[00:02:40]  I mean, my wife and I are constantly telling each other how much we are attracted to each other, how great we look, and all of that.
[00:02:46]  And so you've got to get your, you know, your eat at home, so to speak, right?
[00:02:51]  So the idea that a woman would go out to clubs, Because she wants other guys to desire her.
[00:02:57]  That's generally what's going on.
[00:03:00]  So it's not just a matter of insecurity.
[00:03:02]  It's, well, clearly you want validation from other men, which goes against your monogamy.
[00:03:08]  It goes against monogamy.
[00:03:09]  It's just not a matter of trust.
[00:03:11]  And so the general argument is that when a girl goes to a club and she's dressed sexy and puts her makeup, does her hair and so on, she's putting on a mating display and she's around a whole bunch of men.
[00:03:24]  Who will mate with her like that, right?
[00:03:27]  I mean, if an attractive woman at a nightclub goes to a guy and says, let's go have sex, the majority of guys will say, yep, yep, on it, right?
[00:03:36]  So it would be like if a guy went out with an ex-girlfriend who was desperate to have sex with him and be in a relationship with him again, she would have a problem with that.
[00:03:49]  She should.
[00:03:50]  And she would say, well, because that woman wants you.
[00:03:53]  She wants to get back together with you.
[00:03:55]  She'll do anything to get in your pants.
[00:03:56]  It's like, well, that's guys in clubs.