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March 6, 2025 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux

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Do Women Care What Men Want?

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	So, I find Kevin Samuels, again, he's a late great YouTuber.
	He was constantly asking women.
	Women would say, I want a high-value man.
	A high-value man, right?
	A man in the top 5% or 7% of income.
	And he would say, what do the high-value men want?
	Right?
	High-value man can pick from 20 women who all want him, right?
	Particularly if they're older.
	If it's all the patriarchal beauty standard, okay, that's fine.
	So then he asked women, hundreds or thousands of times, he asked women who want the high-value men, what do the high-value men want?
	And the women had no idea.
	The women had no idea.
	So if you were running a magazine for women who wanted to settle down or whatever, then your articles...
	Would not be about selling makeup, but it would be about, I mean, that would obviously be part of that to some degree, but the articles would be about, we've done a survey, here's what the men that women want, want from women.
	You follow me?
	Here's an article.
	We've done our research.
	Here's what the men that women want, want from women.
	Do they want aggressive boss babes who make that?
	I really hate that face up.
	You know, that riot girl face, that tank girl face.
	You know, I don't even know.
	You know, just sort of the growl face or whatever it is.
	You know, men don't want that.
	I mean, there's a big debate on Twitter about somebody saying that a man would want sort of a calm, polite, even shy woman over an aggressive boss girl, a hyper-aggressive or hyper-assertive career woman.
	Why?
	Why would you want that?
	I mean, if you don't want kids, that's fine.
	But the people who don't want kids are not generally part of social discourse because they have no long-term investment in the future.
	So they're kind of hedonists, right?
	And people who don't want kids are people who can't have kids.
	People who don't want kids, they're just not really part of the social discourse as a whole.
	So, as far as...
	I would believe all of this stuff about patriarchy beauty standards if women...
	We're very curious about what men actually wanted.
	Now, if women were just like, do you want me to get pillow lips?
	Do you want me to get buckle fat removal?
	Do you want me to get a boob job?
	Do you want me to get a Brazilian butt lift?
	Do you want me to get crazy hair weaves and extensions or whatever it is, right?
	Do you want excessive makeup?
	Do you want that dead-eyed?
	Smokey-eyed robot face thing, right?
	And what do men want?
	Well, I would believe that women were following patriarchal beauty standards if, A, men had power much in society, and, B, if women were constantly asking men what they want.
	Let me ask you guys who are here, right?
	I'd respond to these questions Can you not do that?
	Yeah.
	So, have you ever...
	Had a woman ask you what you like to see?
	What do you want to see?
	How do you like me to dress?
	What kind of shoes do you want me to wear?
	How much makeup do you want me to wear?
	Do you want me to dye or streak my hair?
	Do you want me to get Botox?
	Have you ever had a woman who you have some sort of relationship with, probably either explicitly romantic or somewhat romantic or potentially romantic, more than just sister friend zone, have you ever had a woman ask you, How you want her to look.
	Someone says, oh, James says, I never had anyone ask me that.
	I haven't dated anyone that went to those extremes, though.
	No, no, I mean, so you've never dated a woman who uses a lot of makeup?
	Yeah.
	But never had anyone ask how they wanted her to look either.
	No, no, no.
	Right.
	So is it a patriarchal beauty standard if women aren't asking men what they want?
	No.
	So then, who is it for if women aren't asking men what they want?
	And the other thing, too, is that you could argue that there was more of a patriarchy when women needed male resources in order to survive, but now that women can get mostly male tax money through the redistributive welfare state, various kinds of welfare, I mean, all of the transfers of goods and services from men.
	Two women, they don't need men for that, so they're liberated from that.
	So just to switch gears for a sec, and the other thing too, you know, if you're in a relationship with a woman, ask her, how does she want you to look?

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