Jan. 15, 2025 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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How to Find Out the Motives of Liars
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They're never going to tell you.
So you're trying to drag me into this fog bank where I'm trying to discern the motives of people who will never tell me the truth.
You just want me to go someplace that there is no return.
Now, of course, can I say, well, now everybody's fully conscious of it because then you say to people, are you conscious of that?
No, I don't believe it.
I never would believe it.
They're just going to lie.
People willing to sabotage the poor and destroy the young, do you think they're going to tell you the truth about their motivations?
See, Steph, there's this pathological liar.
I just need you to get him to tell the truth about that which is most shameful for him, and then I'll start accepting your theory.
What matters is, is the theory correct?
Motivations is...
is girly.
But what are the motivations?
What do they secretly think?
What do they secretly believe?
It's a way of trying to plumb the depths of people's psyche.
When they're never going to tell you the truth anyway, rather than saying, is the theory true?
You go to motivations, which is a way of avoiding whether the theory fits the facts or not.
Does two and two make four?
I question your motivations for asking me that question.
You know, that's a female tactic and not a healthy female tactic, like a dysfunctional female tactic, right?
So if you've ever confronted dysfunctional parents, what do they say?
Where's this question coming from?
What's your motive in bringing this up?
What's the purpose of all of this?
As opposed to, did it actually happen?
Is it actually real?
Is it true?
What's your motivation?
What's going on deep in your psyche that would even have you think of this, right?
Do you really think they do that on purpose?
I don't give a shit.
When people advocate for things, they're responsible for knowing what they're advocating for.
They can't claim unconsciousness.
If you're advocating for something that's absolutely destructive, A state-run, quote, education, you can't then claim, well, I was unconscious.
I mean, let's say I even accept this theory.
I was completely, I didn't know.
Who cares?
Doesn't matter.
It's irrelevant.
It's a way of avoiding whether the theory is true or not.
Do government schools sabotage the poor?
Yes.
Has this been known for over a century?
Yes.
Is it clear to everyone?
Who has any clue or went through any of these schools?
Yes.
So then people who advocate for this kind of trash?
Well, I don't believe that.
I wasn't conscious of that.
I wasn't aware of that.
I didn't know that.
Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
I was always told that.
So what do you give a rat's ass about people's motivations for?
I told you 2025 is a year of bluntness.
What do you care?
What do you care about people's motivations for?
It's a way of stalling.
And befogging and befouling the conversation.
I'm not calling you foul.
I'm just saying that this, oh, well, we don't know.
We want to give them an excuse called, well, they just did not.
Forgive them, Father, for they did not know.
I don't care.
I care about what's best for the poor.
I don't care about what pathological altruists claim are their motivations, because you're never going to know.
It's just a road track off an endless cliff.
I must have been broke-minded because the class war thing is something I never actually think of much about.
Well, if you've switched classes, as I have, you're aware of it.
Somebody says, my parents became wealthy when I was around 10. It was strange going to a private secondary school where the kids were all on illegal drugs and antidepressants.
They just seemed to be able to afford so many more problems.
Your level of problems in life are about the same no matter what.
You might as well take on big issues to have problems about because otherwise you just end up with small issues to have problems about.
Somebody says, I wonder if the companies that advertise expensive product, expensive product, is good for the world slash people as a strategy to make poor people pay way more money than they have.
Owners of such companies are also liberal, for sure.
Somebody writes, thank you for the tip, maybe this is related to luxury beliefs.
I've noticed a lack of negotiation between experts, which for myself is strange.
Examples, the USA or Europe won't talk to Russia about ending the Ukrainian war.
Mainstream media talking with Putin, noting the exception of Tucker Carlson.
Just narrative control.
A lack of negotiation between, quote, experts, which for myself...
So, I mean, most, quote, experts are just the new mystery cult.
The high priest, if you can't talk to God, you can't look at the data directly, you can't talk to God directly, you have to take our interpretation.