Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux - How to Find Out the Motives of Liars
Aired: 2025-01-15
Duration: 04:48


=== Motives and Lies (04:15) ===

[00:00:00]  They're never going to tell you.
[00:00:01]  So you're trying to drag me into this fog bank where I'm trying to discern the motives of people who will never tell me the truth.
[00:00:11]  You just want me to go someplace that there is no return.
[00:00:14]  Now, of course, can I say, well, now everybody's fully conscious of it because then you say to people, are you conscious of that?
[00:00:19]  No, I don't believe it.
[00:00:20]  I never would believe it.
[00:00:21]  They're just going to lie.
[00:00:22]  People willing to sabotage the poor and destroy the young, do you think they're going to tell you the truth about their motivations?
[00:00:29]  See, Steph, there's this pathological liar.
[00:00:31]  I just need you to get him to tell the truth about that which is most shameful for him, and then I'll start accepting your theory.
[00:00:36]  What matters is, is the theory correct?
[00:00:39]  Motivations is...
[00:00:40]  is girly.
[00:00:47]  But what are the motivations?
[00:00:49]  What do they secretly think?
[00:00:50]  What do they secretly believe?
[00:00:52]  It's a way of trying to plumb the depths of people's psyche.
[00:00:55]  When they're never going to tell you the truth anyway, rather than saying, is the theory true?
[00:01:00]  You go to motivations, which is a way of avoiding whether the theory fits the facts or not.
[00:01:09]  Does two and two make four?
[00:01:11]  I question your motivations for asking me that question.
[00:01:15]  You know, that's a female tactic and not a healthy female tactic, like a dysfunctional female tactic, right?
[00:01:20]  So if you've ever confronted dysfunctional parents, what do they say?
[00:01:24]  Where's this question coming from?
[00:01:25]  What's your motive in bringing this up?
[00:01:26]  What's the purpose of all of this?
[00:01:27]  As opposed to, did it actually happen?
[00:01:29]  Is it actually real?
[00:01:30]  Is it true?
[00:01:31]  What's your motivation?
[00:01:33]  What's going on deep in your psyche that would even have you think of this, right?
[00:01:40]  Do you really think they do that on purpose?
[00:01:42]  I don't give a shit.
[00:01:43]  When people advocate for things, they're responsible for knowing what they're advocating for.
[00:01:47]  They can't claim unconsciousness.
[00:01:50]  If you're advocating for something that's absolutely destructive, A state-run, quote, education, you can't then claim, well, I was unconscious.
[00:01:58]  I mean, let's say I even accept this theory.
[00:01:59]  I was completely, I didn't know.
[00:02:00]  Who cares?
[00:02:01]  Doesn't matter.
[00:02:06]  It's irrelevant.
[00:02:06]  It's a way of avoiding whether the theory is true or not.
[00:02:10]  Do government schools sabotage the poor?
[00:02:14]  Yes.
[00:02:15]  Has this been known for over a century?
[00:02:18]  Yes.
[00:02:19]  Is it clear to everyone?
[00:02:21]  Who has any clue or went through any of these schools?
[00:02:24]  Yes.
[00:02:24]  So then people who advocate for this kind of trash?
[00:02:29]  Well, I don't believe that.
[00:02:32]  I wasn't conscious of that.
[00:02:33]  I wasn't aware of that.
[00:02:34]  I didn't know that.
[00:02:35]  Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
[00:02:37]  I was always told that.
[00:02:38]  So what do you give a rat's ass about people's motivations for?
[00:02:42]  I told you 2025 is a year of bluntness.
[00:02:44]  What do you care?
[00:02:45]  What do you care about people's motivations for?
[00:02:47]  It's a way of stalling.
[00:02:48]  And befogging and befouling the conversation.
[00:02:50]  I'm not calling you foul.
[00:02:51]  I'm just saying that this, oh, well, we don't know.
[00:02:54]  We want to give them an excuse called, well, they just did not.
[00:02:56]  Forgive them, Father, for they did not know.
[00:02:58]  I don't care.
[00:03:00]  I care about what's best for the poor.
[00:03:03]  I don't care about what pathological altruists claim are their motivations, because you're never going to know.
[00:03:08]  It's just a road track off an endless cliff.
[00:03:12]  I must have been broke-minded because the class war thing is something I never actually think of much about.
[00:03:23]  Well, if you've switched classes, as I have, you're aware of it.
[00:03:31]  Somebody says, my parents became wealthy when I was around 10. It was strange going to a private secondary school where the kids were all on illegal drugs and antidepressants.
[00:03:40]  They just seemed to be able to afford so many more problems.
[00:03:44]  Your level of problems in life are about the same no matter what.
[00:03:49]  You might as well take on big issues to have problems about because otherwise you just end up with small issues to have problems about.
[00:03:59]  Somebody says, I wonder if the companies that advertise expensive product, expensive product, is good for the world slash people as a strategy to make poor people pay way more money than they have.
[00:04:09]  Owners of such companies are also liberal, for sure.

=== Lack of Negotiation Between Experts (00:33) ===

[00:04:15]  Somebody writes, thank you for the tip, maybe this is related to luxury beliefs.
[00:04:19]  I've noticed a lack of negotiation between experts, which for myself is strange.
[00:04:24]  Examples, the USA or Europe won't talk to Russia about ending the Ukrainian war.
[00:04:28]  Mainstream media talking with Putin, noting the exception of Tucker Carlson.
[00:04:33]  Just narrative control.
[00:04:34]  A lack of negotiation between, quote, experts, which for myself...
[00:04:37]  So, I mean, most, quote, experts are just the new mystery cult.
[00:04:42]  The high priest, if you can't talk to God, you can't look at the data directly, you can't talk to God directly, you have to take our interpretation.