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Aug. 1, 2024 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux

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	Good evening, good evening, hope you're doing well.
	Oh my gosh!
	It is, pinch punch, last day of the month.
	We're going to get this out tonight, right James?
	Get this out tonight!
	31st of July 2024.
	Try to make me happy.
	I try so hard to make you happy.
	Just try to make me happy.
	With a donation or two, because it's the end of the month and when I tally things up at the end of the month, I like my frown to not be upside down.
	Actually, no, I like my frown to be the right way up.
	All right, yeah, freedomain.com slash donate to help out the show.
	Good morning from Perth.
	Ah, future traveler.
	Bank fees tonight, rent tomorrow night, pay a week next Monday.
	Thank you, I appreciate that.
	All right, let's get to your commenties.
	In the same vein as a business referring to themselves as a family, would it similarly be considered a red flag if an employer views hiring an employee as helping them instead of paying somebody who's providing them value?
	Well, nepotism is... Nepotism is a funny kind of thing.
	Nepotism is a funny kind of thing.
	So let's say in some alternate universe, Izzy were at some point, my daughter Izzy, were at some point to take over my show.
	Right?
	Would that be nepotism?
	Would that be nepotism?
	Well, I mean, of course, we've been having conversations about philosophy low these many moons, right?
	Low these many moons, we've been having all these conversations about philosophy.
	Would it be crazy for her to take over my show?
	I don't think she wants to, I don't think she will, but if she ever did, would that be nepotism or would that be efficient?
	Right?
	A man who raises his son, let's just say, a man who raises his son, the son gets involved in the family business and has been knee-high to a grasshopper since the beginning of time, learning about the business, visiting the business, understanding the business, the father talks about the business, right?
	So then, is it nepotism for the son to take over the business?
	I don't know.
	I mean, the actor Peter Fonda is the son of a famous actor who played in The Grapes of Wrath and also in On Golden Pawn called Henry Fonda, famously emotional on the screen, famously cold as a father.
	So is it nepotism for Henry Fonda's son to be an actor?
	No.
	What was it, uh, Gwyneth Paltrow?
	Didn't she have Steven Spielberg as her godfather or something?
	So, or if you, of course, you look at, um, Kirk Douglas, him with the dimpled chin and the shortened foreskin.
	He has a son, uh, who's, um, was, was in, um, what, countless movies.
	Romancing the Stone, of course, Wall Street.
	I think he got an Oscar.
	Michael Douglas played the heart done by sexually harassed man throughout most of the 80s and 90s.
	I recently played Liberace, if I remember rightly, though I never saw it, of course.
	So, yeah.
	I mean, is it nepotism, or do they just... All nepotism can do, I mean, for the most part, is get your foot in the door.
	So... I don't know.
	I don't know.
	It's fine to me.
	If somebody wants to try getting their son on board to be the owner, that's fine, right?
	Nothing particularly wrong with that.
	Look at the Barrymores, right?
	I mean, the Barrymores are sort of John Barrymore all the way down to Drew Barrymore as a famous American acting family where there seems to be a fair amount of talent, although likely Drew Barrymore seems to be about a bunch of semi-fascistic bootlicking of power prostration before the incompetent, but that's perhaps a topic for another time, so.
	Helping the employee?
	I've never found it particularly helpful to try and help people by giving them work.
	I've never found it particularly helpful.
	I would view it as a red flag unless that person had been raised with the business and just understood it so well.
	I mean I remember I worked at a place once where the CEO's daughter Did a lot of data management and she just didn't seem to be a data management kind of person.
	And then I saw her wielding the databases.
	There were these sort of Microsoft access databases that she wheeled and copied and pasted and transformed.
	And it was like, okay, she, she knows what she's doing.
	She's, she's got it.
	Right.
	She's got it, huh?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, Trump's assassination has been... Well, first of all, you can't find it anywhere.
	Now, that's been completely memory hauled, which is a pretty wild thing.
	It's a pretty wild thing, right, to get that memory hauled.
	And wasn't it the case that one of the AIs was referring to it as a fictional event?
	Crazy.
	Just crazy.
	Yeah, it certainly is true that...
	.
	The non-white races view racial prioritization as high and whites tend not to view it that way.
	It's a... I don't know.
	Well, we all know how it's going to play out, so it's not much.
	So, you're saying what I meant more was that they viewed giving you employment as charity.
	I would not work for someone who viewed hiring me as giving me charity.
	I'm just... I don't like charity as a whole.
	I don't like charity that much as a concept.
	I consider charity to be a fairly pathetic failure in life as a whole.
	I mean, I'm sure that there are exceptions, but...
	I mean who gave me anything right?
	I guess I got a couple of loans and grants for undergrad but I've certainly paid more than that in my tax career so yeah I mean and that wasn't charity so I am not a big fan of charity as a whole.
	A charity tends to displace effort.
	The most people will respond to their circumstances and the more charity there is than the less responsibility there is.
	The more that you catch people, the more they'll take risks, right?
	There is no diminishment of risk.
	There is only transfer of risk, right?
	You can't eliminate risk.
	You can only transfer it, in general, right?
	So, you know why women seem to be a little frivolous these days?
	Well, because they're shielded from the consequences of their choices.
	Right?
	I mean, if they get pregnant, they can get a morning-after pill.
	They can get a free abortion often.
	They can get lots of free health care.
	And if they decide to abort the kid, they can do that.
	If they decide to keep the kid, then the man is forced to pay, or the government pays through welfare.
	And then they get free education, free health care, free dental care.
	And then if they don't save, they get free retirement money.
	I mean, just shielding people from their consequences Turns them into entitled, bratty, eternal children.
	This is true for men, it's true for women, it's true for just about everyone.
	It's just that in society, if we're going to subsidize women, well, I guess that means we're going to have to charge men.
	Which is why men are checking out and a lot of women are becoming somewhat insufferable.
	So.
	Let's see here, let me get to you.
	Google won't autocomplete President Donald Trump.
	Yeah, I think you can get Donald Duck, Ronald Reagan or something like that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Just poor is the best lesson about why charity sucks in my opinion.
	Yeah, yeah, charity is really, really, really tough.
	The only people who think the government can help people are people who've never actually tried to help anyone directly in their life.
	Helping People directly in your life is very, very tough.
	And it's really, really looking great.
	But thank you, I appreciate the tip.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you so much.
	I'll answer questions either way.
	But I'll answer them with a slightly bigger smile.
	If there's a tip attached and associated.
	But!
	Not essential.
	Yeah, so JustPornNovel.com, you should go and listen to that.
	That novel, let's see here.
	It's my novel.
	Three.
	Ah, says James, that recalls to my mind a job way back in the day.
	Somebody offered me to work a job on Linux for a 25k salary in early 2000 northern New Jersey, which is quite a low salary for a developer's job.
	At the time, I'd come from a 40k IT job in Michigan.
	Actually, that's called 40k Warhammer.
	The guy hiring said, we view working here as a privilege.
	Yeah, that doesn't pay my rent.
	Yes.
	I'm not going to give you money, but I'm going to give you a vague sense of infinite mission.
	How's that for you, right?
	In what ways are men frivolous?
	What are they missing?
	Thanks.
	In what ways are men frivolous?
	Porn and video games, right?
	Am I missing something here?
	Porn and video games is what is making men frivolous, right?
	I just did a call-in show today about a guy who's pushing 30 and completely panicking because he's never really been on a date, he's never had a relationship and he's never had much of a real job.
	So he's kind of panicking, and I said to him, and you can hear this when I put it out, whenever that happens, but it's like, he's in trouble and failing because he keeps taking the easy route, right?
	Rather than talk to girls, he looked at porn.
	Rather than achieve things in the real world, he played video games.
	So.
	If you take the easy route, life gets way, way, way harder.
	Life gets way harder if you take the easy route.
	Alright, let me just see questions over here.
	and a Socialist Venezuela has transferred risk to voting.
	Wrong.
	Yeah, I mean, I used to be a bit more negative towards government corruption, but if people are desperate for free stuff and will avoid any virtues, any ethics, right, I mean, It's tough to have a lot of sympathy, say, sometimes for people when they keep, you know, ah, ah, baby birds, open mouth, wide, wide, feed me, feed me, feed me.
	They just want free stuff.
	They don't care about others.
	They don't care about the next generation.
	They're just, ah, eat me, eat me, eat me.
	Feed me, feed me, feed me.
	Then it's kind of tough, you can scrap the eat me part, that was the reverse, I'm being eaten, you're being eaten.
	But, it's kind of tough, you know?
	You know, I mean the Christians have a, you know, thou shalt not steal and then they want
	to use the power of the state to transfer money everywhere.
	So when there are so many people who want to get the fruits of corruption, it's kind
	of tough to blame only the people.
	That's it.
	Like, it's a supply and demand issue.
	Corruption is a supply and demand issue.
	And if all we do is focus and say, but the government's so corrupt it does this, it's like, but there's such a hunger for it.
	There's such a hunger for it.
	People just want free stuff.
	They just want free stuff.
	And reason, reason, mere reason, mere sweet, deep powerful reason cannot compete with free stuff.
	It just can't happen.
	Can't compete with free stuff.
	It's like, you know, if you're into property rights, as I've said before, if you're into property rights and some guy just won a million dollars in the lottery, government lottery, and you say, you really shouldn't cash that in because it's just going to raise taxes on people.
	Yeah, good luck with that, right?
	Bribery displaces rationality.
	Free stuff displaces any arguments for freedom.
	You get free stuff or freedom.
	That's your only choices.
	And the more the government can bribe people with free stuff, well, the less anybody will be interested in freedom.
	Once they can get you to want free stuff, you're too much of a dirtbag to argue for freedom.
	Because everybody thinks they're confronting the evils in the political system when the real evils they need to confront is in themselves.
	Yeah, like the people, oh, my house has gone up in value.
	No!
	Your money has gone down in value.
	That's it.
	That's it.
	So once they can get you to feast on your fellow man, it kills your empathy, it kills your morality, it kills your self-knowledge, it kills your self-awareness, it kills your virtue, it kills your everything, honesty, everything's gone.
	Once they can lure you into feasting on your fellow man under the guise of virtue, what's left?
	There's nothing left!
	Giving up free stuff.
	You know, people would rather go to war than give up free stuff.
	That's crazy.
	People are upset with mass migration and so on.
	It's like, just turn off the welfare state and it's all solved.
	Just turn off the welfare state.
	It's all solved.
	And to me, if people don't want to turn off the welfare state, then you're going to get people who come, to a large degree, to take advantage of the welfare state.
	It's sort of bizarre, right?
	It's sort of bizarre.
	It's like scattering $100 bills from a high balcony over a poor neighborhood and then being upset when 100% of the month returns.
	Bizarre.
	It's just bizarre.
	It's just bizarre.
	Thank you for the tip.
	Can't tell you how much your call-ins and how you communicate with abused adults has helped me in my own career.
	Thanks, Steph.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	The Book of Mormon tells the tale of a righteous people who keep covenants, become rich and successful, then they forget their God.
	Becoming greedy, prideful, arrogant, fall to their enemies, become sorrowful and repentant, remember their God, cycle repeats.
	Well hard times build capitalists, capitalists build good times, good times build socialists, socialists build hard times.
	It's this cycle as always it is the cycle with the state and you can't I don't have this much political power and not have this cycle.
	You know, I don't know why, I genuinely don't know why and I don't think I've ever known why.
	People would rather watch their civilization collapse than listen to reason and evidence.
	I don't get this fundamentally.
	To me it's the actions of crazy people.
	Like, rather than just have, you know, some admittedly tricky conversations or difficult
	conversations about state and coercion and resource distribution and counterfeit and
	debt and...
	Like, rather than have just difficult conversations about the morals of a society, people would
	just rather write this damn thing into the ground, like Dr.
	Strangelove on a bomb.
	See, here's...
	I mean, I...
	Yeah, I'm sort of whirring around in my brain like a helicopter blade here, right?
	But, I don't know.
	Why?
	Why do people... It's like, okay, so sometimes it can be tough to listen to reason, and sometimes you've been mistaken.
	And sometimes you have to change course, and sometimes you have to listen, and sometimes you've been given bad information, but people just...
	Why, why, why will people not admit fault?
	I mean this is more than just political this is highly personal for me as well
	because you know lots of people in my youth lots of people in my childhood
	and teenage years and 20s I'm not in touch with them anymore because they
	just won't listen just don't listen
	Some movie is a pretty bad Coen Brothers movie about some writer in an apartment and John Goodman is just yelling, you just don't listen!
	And it's like, I don't know why, why won't people listen?
	Why won't people listen?
	I don't understand.
	Why would they?
	In order to survive, in order to survive, all you have to do is listen to reason.
	In order to survive, to flourish, to change, to benefit, All people have to do is listen to reason.
	And they just won't.
	Are people doubling down because they can't see a future?
	No, Douglas, they can't see a future because they're doubling down.
	Like, why is it that people would rather do anything other than admit they're wrong?
	I don't understand.
	I don't understand it.
	Fundamentally, this is a core, incredible frustration of mine.
	I think this is probably true of all of us who deal in reasoned facts, empiricism and evidence.
	It's like, what's wrong with being wrong?
	Most people without human history have been utterly wrong.
	I have been.
	Wrong.
	I'll give you an example.
	So recently I put out a call-in show about a woman who was 57 years old and childless and in it she talked about having had I think it was an 18 year old boyfriend way back in the day when she was 14 and I referred to him as predatory and somebody wrote a comment under the video which I will repeat here and say outside of the general insults whenever I'm wrong about something.
	He said, I think it was in 2008, The law for underage sex in Canada was changed from 14 to 18.
	This would have occurred before then, and therefore he was not quite as predatory.
	It's like, okay, that's fine.
	I mean, I don't claim to be an expert on the history of Canadian law, right?
	So I put this out there just as a correction.
	And I don't feel bad about that.
	I'm not going to not say anything because I could be wrong about anything.
	And I think this is the first factual correction I've had to put out in quite some time.
	And other than the completely snarky, bitchy, passive-aggressive, girl-guide, stubbed-her-toe tone that the guy said it to me, I appreciate the information and I appreciate the correction.
	What's wrong with being wrong?
	I don't understand it.
	Because what's the alternative to admitting that you're wrong?
	I don't know.
	I don't know why people can't admit that they're wrong.
	It is really the most common dysfunction in the world, I think.
	people, etc. So many reasons I've seen from people.
	I don't know. I don't know why people can't admit that they're wrong.
	It is really the most common dysfunction in the world.
	I think it is the most common dysfunction in the world.
	People just cannot.
	All right, Joe Rogan seems to have shifted his perspective over the last few years.
	Do you think he would still hold the same erroneous views he once spouted about you after you were on his show?
	Well, I obviously can't read Joe Rogan's quote mind, but I can tell you this, that when you
	get that influential, you don't make as many independent decisions as you seem to.
	So I've mentioned this before, but Joe Rogan had Stephen Tyler from Aerosmith.
	Right?
	He had Steven Tyler from Aerosmith.
	And Stephen Tyler from Aerosmith once adopted a 16-year-old groupie so that he could take her across state lines, dated her and got her pregnant.
	Right?
	When he was 25 years old.
	In an article that this woman wrote in 2011 for LifeSite News, she said that when she was 15, she had become friends with an older groupie who was 24.
	She groomed Holcomb, teaching her to dress provocatively so she could catch a rock star.
	So, it's pretty horrendous.
	So, Tyler contacted Holcomb's mother and got her to sign over guardianship to him.
	Holcomb did not believe her mother would sign over guardianship to him and remember feeling vulnerable knowing she was his ward.
	From that point onward, Holcomb belonged to Tyler.
	She described him as her only hope.
	At that point, it became lost in the rock and roll culture of sex and drugs.
	Anyway, the story is just too... appalling, right?
	So Joe Rogan, you see, is a big fucking moralist, right?
	Because he was just appalled that I would say to people, you don't have to spend time with abusive people.
	Like, he was just... Joe Rogan was appalled at my behavior, you see?
	And the fact that I had said to people, you don't have to spend time with abusive people, was just terrible.
	And I really had to be brought up short, and ambushed, and all of that, with no warning.
	And, right, he was perfectly friendly beforehand, and very enthusiastic, and then, right?
	But then he has Steven Tyler on his show who adopted a child dated her and
	got her pregnant And did Joe Rogan bring any of that up with Steven
	Because he's a moralist, you know.
	He's got to do the right thing.
	thing. He's gotta be the right guy and he's gotta be moral.
	So, as far as what Joe Rogan's thinking is now, I can virtually
	guarantee you that Joe Rogan
	has not thought about me in many, many, many years.
	.
	And if he did, he would just describe talking to me three times as a youthful error because he didn't know better.
	So, I do not... Joe Rogan, I assume, again I can't read his mind and it's not like I think about Joe Rogan in any particular way, shape, or form, but He made a play for the present and I'm making a play for the future.
	Right?
	I am making a play for the future.
	Look, I mean let's be frank, and I'm not talking about Joe Rogan, I'm not talking about anyone in particular, I'm just talking in general.
	There are already so many people Who compromise the truth and sell out.
	Right?
	I don't need to add to their number.
	There are so many people who will, in my view, sell their soul in order to get eyeballs, clicks and dollars.
	I mean, I just don't need... We don't need another one!
	We don't need one more person who's willing to sell their soul for lucre!
	There's already so many!
	There's already so many!
	Just about everyone!
	Why?
	I mean, that's just not my thing.
	You know, I gave up well over 80% of my income and 95% of my audience to tell the truth.
	That's my choice.
	And I'm not even that fussed about anybody who makes a different choice.
	It's just not my choice.
	It's not been tempting for me.
	It's not appealing to me because the people I admire were willing to sacrifice the present to enlighten and save the future.
	You can't save the present if people don't listen to reason.
	What you do is you lay the foundations of what the facts, truth, reason and evidence show and then things get worse and worse and worse until you're proven right and then usually after you're dead you are recognized as prescient.
	Right?
	You know how this works, right?
	This is like nothing new in the history of philosophy, right?
	So to me it would be a savage and devilish insult to my potential, conscience, integrity
	and the love that I have for truth and that people have for me.
	It would be a massive insult to lie for money and fame.
	A lot of people can do it.
	A lot of people are keen to do it.
	A lot of people are lining up to do it.
	But it's not me.
	It's just not me.
	I don't even consider it any particular kind of nobility on my part.
	I don't.
	Honestly, I'm not like, oh gosh, it's so tempting!
	It's not like carrot cake with a side of Salma Hayek, right?
	It's not that for me.
	It's just not tempting.
	Like if somebody offers you a brown furry sandwich, you don't want to eat it!
	Other people are like, mmm, this brown furry sandwich is the best thing I've ever tasted!
	Oh, but it turns my stomach!
	It's repulsive!
	It's hideous!
	It's like a well-oiled elderly Margaret Thatcher in a thong!
	It's not my thing!
	I almost wish it was and that I could feel stronger and braver and more noble for resisting it, but it ain't even tempting!
	It's not.
	It's not.
	You know, I wish it was.
	And then I could say, oh, but I had this great, vast, deep and powerful temptation and I have resisted it because of the strength of my virtue and my character.
	Hello sir, would you like to put your dick in a blender?
	I... don't.
	In fact, it's not even really remotely tempting to me, and I'd actually do a lot to not have to put my dick in a
	blender if that's okay.
	Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh.
	I mean, I wish, I wish, I wish that it was just this big tempting thing that I had.
	I wanted to take and I'm tossed and turned and... It's not.
	I don't want it. I don't want it.
	I don't want it.
	Other people want it.
	I don't know why.
	I don't know why.
	I don't know why people, especially people who have the F.U.
	money, right, that legendary, I don't know why, people who have the F.U.
	money don't tell the truth.
	Oh, but then they're going to lose their audience.
	It's like, okay, but what about the people in your life who were supposed to love you and tell you not to sell your soul for money?
	What about those people?
	Well?
	I guess.
	Again, not talking about anyone in particular because I don't know people's private lives.
	But aren't the people saying to them, you know, we have more than enough money?
	We're more than enough money?
	Why don't you tell the truth?
	It's going to cost you some audience.
	It might cost you some hassles.
	But isn't it better to tell the truth?
	What's all the money for?
	If it doesn't buy you the freedom to speak your mind, what's the money for?
	Then the money is just a chain.
	It doesn't liberate you at all.
	It doesn't liberate you at all.
	The money is used to muzzle you.
	It's like they step on your fucking neck and stuff dollar bills down your throat until your soul chokes to death.
	No thank you.
	Why not do YouTube part-time and leave the controversial stuff to rumble?
	Well, I suppose you're new to the conversation.
	I'm off YouTube and have been for almost half a decade.
	So.
	Uh, that's a... That's a lovely thought.
	It's just not even remotely possible.
	Just wanted to mention that.
	Also wanted to mention too... Too... Just wanted to mention too... That...
	If you donate at freedomain.com slash donate for the next week or two, maybe a little longer but probably just that long, you get a copy of the French Revolution presentation.
	That's me, almost 12 hours, completely dismantling and reassembling in the image of truth, reason, and virtue the entire history of the French Revolution.
	It's incredible.
	It's an incredible presentation, one of my best truths about.
	So.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Wouldn't you think that all of that money, whoever's making it, and there's lots of people
	who've made just massive amounts of money, and everyone who knows the truth knows exactly
	who's lying.
	Right?
	About everything.
	And that's fine.
	But then don't be somebody who says, well, it's super important to tell the truth.
	And I'm a moralist.
	It's like, you're paid to shut up.
	And again, I don't have any particular issue with it.
	I mean, it seems to be the norm.
	It seems to be the norm.
	I mean the devil it seems doesn't even have to finish his offer before people have already
	signed with their children's blood on the dotted line.
	So it's just the way that it is.
	It's a lack of love, right?
	Fundamentally, it's a lack of love.
	And also, what is the good of all of that money if you lose your freedoms?
	I mean, the money's going to, if apparated, it's going to get taken away over various money printing, debt-ridden initiatives by the state, central banking and so on.
	on like what's the point of all this money?
	You know the horrors of a bad conscience in a mansion can't be overstated.
	The moral horrors of a bad conscience in a mansion cannot be overstated.
	And the thing is, too, it's not... I mean, the bad conscience is part of it.
	The bad conscience is part of it.
	The problem, though, for me, would also be not just... it's not tempting to me and I know my conscience would be pretty savage with me, as it should be, Because, you know, when you moralize towards other people, it's important to have some standards yourself, right?
	But what would trouble me or bother me the most, I think, would be that if you sell your soul for money,
	it's all the people you have to end up being surrounded by in order for that
	deal to work.
	It's all the people you have to surround yourself with.
	who... make that deal work.
	In other words, you can't have anyone around you who says...
	You know, I don't think you are following your own rules.
	I don't think that this is the right thing to do.
	do, I don't think that you should be used as an attack dog on anyone who steps out of
	line and I'm concerned that the system is paying you that much money and what are they
	getting in return.
	It's all the people that you have to surround yourself with when you sell your soul.
	You have to surround yourself with people who will never ever ever point out that you have sold your soul.
	No thank you.
	Oh no.
	I need people around me who are going to keep me on the straight and narrow.
	I need people around me who are going to call me out if I go astray.
	And then what you have to do is you have to have people around you
	you.
	you Who then have power over you, because if your public persona is different from your private actions, this is maybe some of the Mr. Beast stuff that's floating around, but if your public persona is different from your private actions, people are going to leak stuff and it's going to be pretty terrible.
	Because if you're going to sell your soul, and again, I'm not talking about Mr. Beast here, I'm not talking about anyone in particular, this is a general cycle of life.
	If you're going to sell your soul, you have to be surrounded by people Who've sold their souls, because they're taking the crumbs from the table, right?
	No, thank you.
	No, the idea of being surrounded by amoral people, especially if you're claiming to be
	Marr, right?
	Yeah, that's no good.
	That's no good.
	That's no good.
	And if you are going to tell the truth, you have to recognize that it'll probably be at least half a generation after your death that people will recognize the value of what you did.
	Like, that's just the deal.
	That's why you have to navigate according to your conscience, virtue, honor, honesty, and decency, and love, love.
	You have to love the future to take the bullets in the present for The salvation you never live to see.
	You just have to love mankind, you have to love the future, you have to love the truth, you have to love virtue, to the point where you're willing to take bullets in the present, so to speak, in order to save a future you don't get to live to see.
	Maybe my grandkids will live to see it, but probably my great-great-grandkids.
	So, that's the deal.
	That's the deal.
	In a world built on lies, the only honor the truth can find is in the distant future.
	So you know honestly people can have the present.
	I don't particularly want it.
	I enjoyed it.
	Don't get me wrong.
	I'm not immune to it.
	I enjoyed, you know, surfing at the top of my game and all of that, doing sort of 10 million views, downloads a month and, you know, whatever.
	I mean, it was fun.
	It was a wild ride.
	I'm very, very glad I did it.
	But I won't shut up to keep it.
	No, no.
	Oh, no.
	I don't exactly get what you mean because you have a great life right now anyways.
	I don't understand the question.
	If everyone understood that you could have a great life while giving up fame, influence, and money for the sake of the truth, then people would already do it.
	So why do people not do it?
	So I don't understand.
	I don't understand the question.
	You know, if you're prominent, then, you know, I assume some fairly creepy people come along
	and rope and bribe and bully and threaten you into doing what they want.
	Don't want that.
	Sorry in the sense that saying the truth takes so much from us.
	Still don't understand what you're saying.
	My apologies.
	All right, so let me get to your questions.
	I'd take a minute to get through them.
	I'm going to go ahead and get started.
	Tips, of course, are massively welcome.
	And I really would appreciate your support at freedomain.com slash donate.
	We few, we happy few.
	But see, fall from grace in the world point of view.
	Yeah, I mean, I think I mentioned that I did a search for myself on Twitter the other day and it was all the same thing.
	Hey, where did that guy go?
	That guy completely vanished.
	Oh, here's something funny.
	Do me a favor.
	Heh heh heh heh heh.
	Uh, do me...
	Do me a favor.
	James, can you post that link?
	I think, yeah, you sent that to me, right?
	Post that link that the listener bought for the show.
	I can't remember which one, exactly, the word of it.
	I think it was, I think it was this.
	Alright, I think it was this.
	you you
	No.
	Yeah, we'll get there, we'll get there.
	James will post it, I'm sure.
	Yes, but it doesn't seem to be working.
	Yeah, I don't think it was that.
	Yeah, James will pick it up.
	Yeah, I think so.
	you you
	Alright, so... I had a... I think I had a comment that somebody wanted to Get to me.
	And let me just see here.
	You can, of course.
	You can.
	Go to.
	What is the link actually?
	Sorry, James.
	Give me a link to that too, right?
	All right.
	What is it?
	Oh, no.
	Sorry.
	Something else.
	Wait, wait.
	No, that's something else too.
	All right.
	Let me just mute this.
	Ah, yes.
	So, you can go to onewebsiteover.com.
	Onewebsiteover.com.
	Because I'm like, I'm just one website over, man.
	I'm just one website over.
	So, you can go to http://onewebsiteover.com.
	So literally we can say, we're just one website over!
	.
	Just one website over.
	And there you go.
	That's kind of cool.
	That's kind of cool.
	OneWebsiteOver.com.
	So yes, just in case.
	He's like, he's just one website over.
	Like literally one website over dot com.
	That was great.
	That was great.
	Who was the hero who did that?
	Yeah, it's pretty good, right?
	I can't remember his name and I don't know if he even wants to be identified, but I just thought it was pretty funny and pretty good.
	Pretty fine, pretty fine.
	All right, let's go over here.
	I'll put it over on Rumble too.
	I thought that was pretty cool.
	That is epic.
	As my, uh...
	As my daughter would say.
	Epic.
	All right All right
	I'm going to go, since I'm waiting for some questions, I'm going to go to a bookmark or two.
	I'm going to go to a bookmark.
	Let me ask you this.
	Somebody says, am I wrong for lying to my... I'm sorry, am I wrong for lying about my body count to my boyfriend?
	I've been dating my boyfriend for six months.
	Female 31, male 34.
	Although it is early, we are taking this relationship seriously and have had conversations that show it may lead to marriage.
	It has been the best relationship of my life.
	When my boyfriend and I first started dating, he told me a woman who is promiscuous is a deal-breaker.
	I told him I wasn't, and I don't believe I am anymore.
	However, I do have a bit of a past.
	In high school and in college, I slept around a little recklessly in that eight-year time there were twenty people.
	Since college, ten years ago, there have been seventeen more.
	I'm at thirty-seven total.
	37.
	Total.
	Which puts her in the enormously high risk of divorcing your ass and taking your shit.
	So... If you're the boyfriend and you find this out... Well, first of all, should she tell him?
	And if you're the boyfriend and you find this out, what would you do?
	I'll, uh, get the, um... I don't know if I can copy and paste here.
	Ooh, arcane.
	Alright, so here's the, um, here's the post.
	So I thought that was an interesting question.
	I thought that was an interesting question.
	Insert line from Clerks.
	Yes, that's right.
	That's a grim movie, man.
	The count is too damn high, he says.
	With sideburns.
	It's a funny thing, right?
	That's a funny thing.
	Interesting.
	Um...
	Given his stipulations anyway, for marriage relationship he should know
	because she flat out lied, not the body count.
	If she brings you lasagna at work, she's a cooper.
	Does this guy even want kids?
	I mean it's a dicey thing, right?
	To lie as a foundation for a relationship.
	If promiscuity is a deal-breaker, everyone would accept that a woman who's thirty, who's had thirty-seven sexual partners, is promiscuous.
	I mean, I don't even know by sort of standards these days, but what do you guys think?
	Is that promiscuous?
	Body count of thirty-seven and she was what?
	She was thirty-one years old?
	Female thirty-one.
	So, what have we got, right?
	Right?
	31 minus 18 divided by 37 is a new sexual partner every three months and change, on average.
	That's going to burn out your pair bonding.
	You may have STDs.
	There may be history of that, although I guess she would have had STDs.
	She would have told them about that or maybe she passed along something that's one of these sneaky, burrow-y, luggage, wait-and-see things, right?
	Yeah.
	High risk but depends if she's willing to change slash reform.
	Anything over 10 is promiscuous in my opinion.
	Right.
	It's tough call, man.
	you Is it really?
	Is it possible to be reformed and still lie about it?
	Right?
	Is it possible to be both reformed and lying about it?
	Right?
	I don't know.
	They're lying and they're not processing and dealing with it a huge problem.
	Yes, very promiscuous.
	AIDS?
	I don't know.
	That's much of a heterosexual thing.
	I remember it being touted as something that was coming, but I don't think it ever showed
	up in the way that it was expected to.
	Yeah, it's rough, man.
	It's rough.
	I wouldn't do it.
	I wouldn't do it.
	So this is a pretty wild thing.
	It's a pretty wild thing.
	So this woman wrote.
	She said, I honestly think liberals have some kind of mind parasite.
	I recently posted in a neighborhood app that I'm seeking to rehome my cat since my fiancé is severely allergic and I will be moving in with him.
	It turns out I'm surrounded by demented liberals.
	Reading their hateful comments, you would think I was committing a genocide.
	Several of them were outraged that I could give up my cat for a man and were appalled at how disposable my cat was to me.
	Mind you, these are the same people who scream about a woman's right to abortion.
	You want to talk about disposable, how about the way they treat sexual and romantic partners?
	Several of them insinuated it wouldn't work out with my fiancé, and they couldn't wait for me to regret my decision.
	Don't wonder so many liberal women end up cat ladies, and so many liberal men don't know how to love a woman.
	Of course I would give up my cat for my man.
	Are you retarded?
	My cat can't take care of me when I'm sick.
	My cat can't comfort me in my struggles and support me in my endeavors.
	My cat can't give me children.
	And I will always love a human more than animal, you absolute effing retards.
	These are just some examples of their deranged messages.
	I'm trying to rationalize choosing a man over your pet.
	Good God, what a disposable society we live in.
	The cat deserved better.
	Don't get an emotional support animal when the inevitable breakup occurs.
	It may not even work out with the fiancé.
	If he's telling you to dump the cat, I'd think twice about the fiancé.
	He may dump and dispose of you, too.
	One day, when something better comes along, so be prepared.
	Give cat to a good friend whom you may be able to get him back or at least visit and follow.
	And somebody wrote, uh, this happened to me when I had my second child who had severe asthma.
	People literally could not understand why I would favor my daughter's health over the cat.
	I guess I could put my daughter up for adoption, says one person.
	Oh my gosh.
	Yeah, I had a thought.
	I had a thought.
	I had a thought.
	So...
	I had two thoughts today.
	I'll just talk about one.
	So you know how there are these charts about white women over 40 and their skyrocketing
	antidepressant use, right?
	And people are just like, why, why, why?
	And like, you know, half of liberal women have a diagnosed mental health disorder and 80% of them over a certain age.
	And people are like, why?
	Why are they so crazy?
	And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	So, why do you guys think that, particularly in white women, the antidepressant use, mental health issues have just gone through the roof?
	Oh, why are liberals obsessed with animals?
	Because there is An inability to negotiate for a lot of people on the left.
	Happens on the right too, but a little bit more on the left.
	It's an inability to negotiate.
	And so animals you don't negotiate with.
	Human beings you have to negotiate with.
	So you can get your love from an animal without having to negotiate, but when it comes to negotiation they're not particularly good at it.
	So why do you think The liberal women, and white women in particular over 40, are so dependent on the antidepressants.
	What are your thoughts?
	Somebody says, regarding the lying, why would you want to be with someone who, if they knew the truth, would hate to be with you?
	Well, men generally have to accept their mistakes, women get to evade them.
	Right.
	Until it's too late.
	right alright so I think I'm gonna guess
	right and maybe there's some data about this kinda stuff which you guys are
	aware of or know about Bye.
	So maybe there's some data about this but let me ask you this.
	If you've been around conservative people as a whole, conservative people as a whole not only stay home with their children but they often also will homeschool.
	So the people I know who are conservatives Generally, the mother stays home, at least for the first five years, and they will often homeschool.
	Now, what was the case 40 years ago, right?
	So, 1984, right?
	What was the case 40 years ago with liberal women, with women who were Democrats, women who were feminists, women who were on the left?
	What was happening 40 or 50 years ago in liberal households as opposed to conservative households?
	And again, it could be a little bit more, a little bit less, but, and of course some liberals who stay, they stay home and they homeschool and they're good parents and some conservatives dump their kids in daycare and go to work, so I'm just talking about some trends, a little bit.
	What was going on 40 or 50 years ago in the households of parents, new parents, With liberal, feminist, often secular women.
	Mothers.
	Parents.
	Well, the mothers went to work, right?
	The mothers of the liberal women, 40 years ago, 30 years ago, 50 years ago, 60 years ago, the mothers went to work!
	Either because of ideological reasons or maybe because single motherhood reasons and so on, right?
	Because women's liberation, feminism, is targeted at non-Christians.
	Because Christians already have a model for the family that is the father is the leader, the mother stays home, and it's all about transferring values to the children.
	Christian parents are much more likely to homeschool because the leftists have taken over the school system and they can't
	transfer their Christian values to their children if their children go
	into government schools and often into a lot of private schools as well,
	right?
	So that I think is really interesting, right?
	What is going on in these households?
	Or what was going on?
	Because everyone's looking at the present.
	Oh, there's so much propaganda.
	I get all of that.
	But why does the propaganda work?
	Propaganda works through isolating you.
	And how do they isolate you?
	They make you reject everyone who disagrees with you.
	Now, how is it possible for you to reject everyone who disagrees with you?
	You don't have a pair bond.
	Pear Bond says, I'm going to listen to you even if it annoys me.
	I'm going to listen to you even if it hurts.
	I'm going to listen to you even if you have a big criticism of me.
	I'm going to listen to you even if it tears my soul in two because I trust you.
	So, it's not so much what's happening now, I think, or if I had to guess,
	it's not so much what's happening now that's the issue.
	It's what happened 30, 40, 50 years ago when these kids had liberal parents, leftist parents, feminist parents, or single moms, who put them in daycare, not so much the single moms because they'd usually just stay home on alimony, maybe child support, well not alimony, I guess child support or welfare or whatever.
	But the professional liberal moms went back to work to smash the patriarchy or whatever nonsense was chiming in their brains or quote brains at the time.
	So they went to work and they put their kids into daycare.
	Early!
	Early!
	Because, you know, being a mother, right?
	Being a mother means supporting the patriarchy and being dependent on a man or whatever it is, right?
	Christian parents of Christian parents have the grandparents who do minor babysitting to say go out and buy groceries or run errands if the kids were sick.
	It has been my experience that most of the Christian parents I know take deep delight in their children because their children are manifestations of God's love and children are a blessing and children are gifts from God and so there is a great joy for the Christians that I know with regards to parenting.
	I don't think that's the case with the leftists as much.
	Children are a burden.
	Children are basically wards of the state in many ways.
	Children interfere with the parents' ambitions and so on, right?
	There's a video that was making the rounds about a woman who was a ballerina.
	And was accepted into Juilliard who takes like 12 people every year.
	Like my theatre school who only takes 16 people every year.
	And she ended up marrying a billionaire and raising a bunch of kids.
	Yeah, the Christian God is a parent.
	Yeah, that's precisely right, Tim.
	That's a great point.
	Thank you.
	So what I view when you see these people who have this tension and this hostility and this
	rigidity, I don't know if you've seen the videos where someone wears a Trump shirt and
	goes to a Biden-Harris rally and somebody wears a Biden-Harris shirt and goes to a Trump
	rally, and again, could be selectively edited, who knows, but if I had to choose one, I would
	definitely choose to take the leftist t-shirt and go to a conservative rally rather than vice versa.
	Because there's this hostility, this ability to turn on your fellow citizen for the sake of ideological differences.
	And the reason for that, of course, is that you were put into a daycare with hostile, tempestuous, aggressive children, and so your peers are dangerous.
	Right?
	Why is it that it's so easy to get—it's why you've got to separate people from their parents, right?
	Because you're unprotected, your peers are dangerous, so it's easy to turn you later on on your fellow citizens, right?
	This is why under communism people inform on each other all the time because they're raised in these collective government daycares where the great danger comes from their peers, right?
	Danger, peers.
	Peers, danger.
	So I think that the mental health issues that a lot of leftist women have come from a lack of pair bonding and attachment disorders early on in life as a result of absent parents and daycare.
	Have you heard of the show The Boys?
	They're not subtle at all about portraying right-leaning people as complete idiots, yeah?
	Yeah.
	Ah.
	So it would be interesting to look, to talk to leftists and say, were you in daycare or were you home?
	You know, to me, I see, what do I see?
	You know, like these famous, the screaming women, the topless women, the women who are screaming and shrieking and upset and raging and so on.
	I see extremely traumatized infancies.
	Extremely traumatized infancies.
	And who did they pair bond with?
	Well, they pair bond with the state.
	Which is why they view the state as a reasonable substitute for a husband.
	They pair bond with the state.
	And when you see the high levels of anxiety and neurosis in the left, I view this as a permanent fight-or-flight mechanism, right?
	So to me, it's not so much that they think people on the right are like literally Hitler.
	I think that they have a constant sense of danger that they don't want to identify.
	And so it's easy to redirect that sense of danger into something political.
	Tell me if this makes sense to you.
	I'm not saying is it like absolutely true, I'm just saying does the argument make sense?
	If you have ever dealt with people, if you've ever dealt with people who are in a permanent state of paranoia or anxiety, boy are they jumpy and quick to attack.
	And that's what I see.
	I just see people very jumpy, very quick to attack, and very quick to violence.
	Well why?
	Why would they be jumpy, quick to attack and prone to justifying violence?
	Because they went through situations of extreme danger.
	They went through situations of extreme danger in a chronic way as a child.
	So I see people whose fight and flight mechanism is permanently triggered.
	Bye.
	Now, Christians are more comfortable contradicting people in secular authority because the government
	killed Jesus and there's always been this tension between secular power and religious
	ideals.
	So for the people raised in daycare with insecure attachments, which means they don't feel protected
	and loved for who they are.
	And they're exposed to chronic stress conditions, right?
	Chronic conditions of stress.
	Which, whether it's chronic conditions of stress or something else, there is some pretty significant evidence that each month in daycare shaves off a percentage of an IQ point to the point where you can lose four or five percent of a standard deviation.
	Because stress is tough on the intellect, right?
	If you've ever tried to concentrate when you're really stressed, it's hard to do that.
	So, when you have an insecure attachment, You can't criticize that person, that thing, or that institution, right?
	I mean, think of being unjustly imprisoned in a concentration camp and it's the whims of the guard that get you whether you get food or water or shelter or health care or warmth or anything, right?
	Get a blanket in the winter.
	So you have to go on the whims of the guard.
	So you've got to be super nice to the guard and you can't criticize the guard in any way.
	You can't even think badly about the guard because if you've just given one funny look you won't get a blanket and you'll go two days without rations and you might half starve to death.
	So you understand the insecure attachment means no criticism.
	So you have free-floating anxiety.
	Right?
	Does this make sense?
	You have free-floating anxiety.
	You're in danger, but you cannot criticize any of the people who are putting you in danger or causing the danger.
	Right?
	So you've probably seen in just about every movie ever made, whether it's a courtroom drama, the judge is always noble and right and caring and knowledgeable and assertive and just wonderful all around.
	You almost never see a truly corrupt judge in any media portrayal because the media companies deal with a lot of lawsuits and have to deal with a lot of judges and so they don't want to bite the hand that could feed them or starve them.
	So when you have an insecure attachment you can't displease the person.
	You have to hide whenever you're upset.
	You can't say what you want.
	You can't be assertive.
	You can't disagree with the person.
	You can't criticize the person.
	You can't get mad at the person because that person is in charge of you and it's really tenuous.
	You know you have a strong bond when people can make fun of you.
	It's one of the reasons why men sort of trade these fake insults, is to show the strength of their bond, right?
	Thank you for your tip, token, and JP.
	== See also == American Heart Association American Heart Association
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	So, if you are...
	A child whose parents put you in daycare.
	They're putting you in a situation where they're saying, we can take you or leave you.
	And if you've seen those heartbreaking videos of the children who seem kind of normal and their parents show up at daycare and the kids burst into tears and run over with their arms up because they've just been so stressed and cortisol levels spike in daycare.
	I worked in a daycare for years, so this I know.
	And I've done the truth about daycare.
	I have done it all over the place in the Peaceful Parenting book at peacefulparenting.com.
	So if you have that insecure attachment, you can't criticize your parents any more than you can criticize, at a more extreme level, the concentration camp guard upon whose whims you live to survive.
	So, you've got anger, frustration, fear, and you can't criticize your parents.
	So you understand how these people are so easily weaponized against, quote, enemies.
	The reason you're anxious isn't because your parents put you in daycare or neglected you or abused you or ignored you.
	That's not why you're anxious.
	Your actions cause MAGA.
	That's why you're anxious.
	Right?
	Your anxiety is not a rational response to significant levels of stress and danger your parents
	chose to put you in as a child.
	result.
	Right?
	Your anxiety is because Trump's telling everyone to eat bleach.
	Or praised neo-Nazis, or dumped koi fish into a pond, or mocked a disabled reporter, or is going to take away your freedoms, or is going to end democracy.
	So all of that free-floating anxiety, which can't attach to its proper object because of the insecure bond.
	You know, if my daughter's upset with me, she comes to me and says, I'm upset with you.
	Good!
	That's what I want!
	And we try to, I don't, I can't even remember the last time we got to that position, because I'm saying, how's it going, anything I can do better, different, anything I'm annoying you with, because, you know, she's constantly changing and all of that, right?
	She's in her mid-teens right now, so it's constantly changing.
	So you've got to adjust as things go on, right?
	So if you were put in a situation of stress and danger for years and years and years by your parents,
	who then also kind of ignored you, and then also frightened you with lurid tales of environmental apocalypses and so on,
	right?
	And neo-Nazis under every rock and people who want to take away your rights and your freedoms and we're so stressed and we're so worried and we're so terrified and it just accumulates!
	Generation after generation!
	Decastata coming in in force in the 1950s.
	And so what happens, right?
	50.
	50s to 80s, 80s to 2010, so we got two, three generations cooking on this stuff, right?
	And some of these genetics, some of the trauma can be passed down genetically as well at that point.
	How many people in your life do you have who welcome criticism?
	They're not just okay with it, they're not just deal with it okay, it's not too bad.
	How many people in your life welcome criticism?
	Uh, Bomega says, I tried once to approach my father about something I was upset with him about.
	Did not go well.
	No, it doesn't.
	It doesn't.
	It doesn't.
	John says, I imagined a lot of children of liberal mothers were unwanted accidents of
	A lot of the contempt for children comes from that.
	Well, you know, and if you are the son of a single mother who was abandoned or drove away the father, then if you have characteristics that remind her of the absent father, you're shit out of luck when it comes to parental bonding.
	It was unfair in my family, extremely unfair in my family, and my brother reminded my mother of my father, and I reminded my mother of her father, who she claimed to love and adore and all of that, and it was just absolutely unfair.
	Absolutely wrong.
	Absolutely unfair.
	What am I always doing?
	Please tell me where I've gotten wrong.
	Questions, criticisms, objections.
	I'm constantly open.
	I actually found something in an old folder of mine.
	There's a guy who tore apart UPB or tried to a couple years ago.
	I will deal with that.
	People criticize me.
	I'll read it.
	I'll review it.
	I'll go through it.
	I've got a whole section of rebuttals.
	I don't want to be wrong.
	Criticize me.
	Even the snarky, passive-aggressive guy who told me about the change in Canada's laws of consent 2008.
	Great.
	You know, love to correct it.
	Don't want to be wrong.
	Don't want to be wrong.
	Did you ever have a boss who thanked you?
	Who thanked you for bringing something to his attention?
	Oh my gosh.
	Thank you.
	I almost got that wrong.
	Good catch.
	Great catch, man.
	Good job.
	Thank you.
	It's just terrible.
	Yeah.
	James said, yeah, I had a similar dynamic.
	Brother and I live with my father and I'm more similar to our mother than my brother is.
	Brother was easily more favored by my father.
	Yeah.
	Criticism does not equal just saying you suck.
	I agree.
	Yeah.
	I mean, yes, perhaps I do, but how and in what way?
	In the good Carmel Harris way or the bad vacuum in space way?
	John, I appreciate your comments over on Rumble.
	Very, very insightful.
	Thank you.
	No, criticism is, you know, you've deviated from your values a bit, here's what you said, here's what happened, I'm
	upset with you about this, that and the other and yeah, I mean, can be emotional, can be positive, always great.
	Denise says, Oh God, my boss told me to do something.
	I did it, he told me.
	I would never tell you to do something like that.
	And I sent him the email in which he told me to do it.
	And he then told me, My time is infinitely more valuable than yours.
	Do not waste my time on things like this.
	Right.
	Oh God!
	I think we've all been there.
	I think we've all been there.
	with people who just want to admit that they're wrong.
	So you understand how And people with free-floating anxiety who can't criticize their own parents because of the lack of bond, it's easy then to point that tension and that aggression at whoever the propagandists want attacked.
	Right?
	Which is why, as daycare rates improve, free speech goes down.
	Which is why when I was a kid, if you disagreed with someone or he proved you wrong in an argument or he said something you found offensive, the idea of contacting his boss to get him fired would never have occurred to anyone.
	Like it's so completely foreign and alien to any kind of thinking that was going around when I was growing up.
	Now it's common.
	Now it's common.
	Now it's the default position.
	I'm gonna find where you live and get you fired, right?
	I think Rob says I think adulthood is mostly just being surrounded by traumatized people
	trying to get from other traumatized people what they didn't get in childhood.
	No, no, that's not it.
	I mean, that's certainly true, and I'm not trying to disagree with you fundamentally, but the people that I'm talking about are inflicting the trauma that was inflicted upon them on others, right?
	And if you look at the leftists, who were they attacking?
	They're attacking the kids with good parental bonds.
	Right?
	Because they're attacking, in general, conservatives.
	And conservatives love their children, I think, in more consistent ways, on average, and treasure their children.
	Children are the gift from God.
	You work with your children, you teach them, you invest in them, you pray with them, you Worship with them.
	You take them to church.
	You know, the Christian families that I know are better parents than most of the atheists I know.
	So you understand that there's a tipping point in trauma, right?
	It's dark, man.
	It's dark.
	There's a tipping point in trauma where you then attack the healthy.
	You attack the healthy.
	And part of you is, and this is, you know, this is something I talk about and really you've got to listen to this presentation on the French Revolution as I go into this, right?
	The people who were put in daycare are angry at the people who cared for their own children because they feel abandoned and left behind.
	And it's safer to attack the Christian parents than their own liberal parents because the trauma bond, the insecure attachment, is with their own liberal parents.
	So it's easier to attack the parents with a strong pair bond rather than the parents with a weak pair bond.
	I hope this makes sense.
	It's a sense of being left behind.
	It's a sense of, you know, if you were friends with people in prison and they managed to
	escape and they left you behind, you'd be angry, not just at the guards who were still
	keeping you there, but you'd almost be more angry at the people who escaped and didn't
	help you and didn't toss you a key and didn't help you out and didn't come back for you.
	Does that make sense?
	Thank you.
	You're all in the prison together, and a bunch of your friends break out, and they never come back, and they don't even toss you a key, and they don't unlock on their way out, and they don't take you with them.
	Who are you more mad at?
	The guards who keep you in, or the friends who left you behind?
	Do you follow?
	Like you do understand, I'm sure.
	You do understand that my entire public career has been circling back to help those left behind.
	I could have been out decades ago.
	I could have been out among all the healthy, and I could never have circled back, and I could never have taken call-ins, and I could never have said, I'm not leaving the prison while there are still people in here who want to go.
	I can't leave people behind.
	Mostly because I resented being left behind myself, and also because it's just bad for society if you leave enough people behind.
	then they arise en masse as a resentful mob and destroy society.
	I got out in my 20s and I'm still the catcher in the rye in my late 50s.
	Going back, going back, going back.
	Helping and helping and helping and doing whatever I can to help other people get out.
	That's the gig.
	I'm not leaving.
	I am not leaving anyone behind who wants to get out.
	Because that's what people do, right?
	They get out and they're like, fuck, I'm gone.
	I'm never going back.
	I'm never going back.
	And I understand that and I'm not bagging on people for that.
	I get that. But I so vividly and deeply remember what it was like feeling left behind.
	it.
	you Feeling that everyone was getting out and everyone was moving on and I was so chained.
	In the deep bottom of nothingness to a barely coherent mad ghost of a mother trapped in the dungeon while everybody scales the ceilings to get to the light and everyone's out and everyone's scampering past and whooping and cheering and every now and then people would stop at the door to the cell and glance in and they'd be like hey good luck with that and whoop off we go And the prison was emptying out.
	And I felt like I wasn't just stuck at the bottom, but the bottom was sinking even further down.
	I think that's why the movie Titanic is resonant with a lot of people because
	she goes back for Jack, right?
	And then Won't share the raft anyway.
	But I... I can't enjoy the sunlight knowing at the pale half golems that I was once trapped in the lightless and sightless depths below.
	I can't... I can't enjoy it.
	I can't.
	So many bodies rolling away unavenged.
	So many people left behind in dirty cells, gnawing on half-rinds of old fish, trapped and chained, listening to the sounds of celebrations and fireworks.
	Dances and nooptuals.
	Up in the bright skylights of northern lights and rainbows and sunbeams and beauty and comets.
	And we're down.
	Down in the guts of the planet and the depths of history.
	And the chained empty defenses of NPC madness.
	Stuck.
	Bodies going back a thousand generations lashed to our legs And we're down there because we want to save everyone
	.
	Who's chained to us.
	We can't get through the door with that burden of history.
	There are too many bodies chained to us to get through a door.
	So we stay there and we try and talk the people into coming back to life and learning to thirst and yearn for the bright air and the clear skies of the outside world, the above world, the Johnny Top Sides of the planet.
	And we're down there in this dinner party with the dead.
	Eating dust and pretending it's protein.
	Drinking dust and thinking it's wine.
	And trying to cajole corpses a thousand years dead into dancing their way out the door, up the stairs.
	Hoping that their empty sockets won't be too hurt by the bright light.
	Because knowing who to leave behind and who you can bring with you is a delicate fucking act.
	It's a delicate art, man.
	Because if you try to save those who will never leave, you just lose yourself and never leave.
	But if you leave those behind who could be saved, their bodies and their ghosts come with you and haunt you, and then there is no real sunlight because There is nothing but blackness below, and you see that with your inner eyes all the time, and so there is no actual sunlight.
	There is only a slightly brighter, scalding sunbeam that goes into the dungeon that is your heart, that you remember, that you leave people behind.
	I won't.
	I won't do it.
	With this amazing technology.
	With this incredible conversation for which I am always deeply and daily humbly grateful
	for.
	With this incredible conversation for the first time in human history.
	None have to be left behind for us to escape.
	And shouldn't we provide what we were denied?
	Shouldn't we try to provide to the world what we most wanted and didn't get?
	I wanted someone to care when I was a kid.
	I want someone to circle back and listen, show some empathy, some care, some concern,
	but not infantilize me.
	To treat me as a delicate combination of both wounded and strong.
	I am wounded, but don't treat me as crippled.
	I am strong, but don't treat me as unwounded.
	And it's tough in the world, you know.
	The other thought I had today was about how, if you look at the, you know, horrible falsehoods, incredibly destructive, that are really designed to drive to violence people who are unstable, lies about me online.
	I'm criticized because apparently you're just supposed to forgive child abusers.
	because they had bad childhoods and you know they abuse children but we gotta have sympathy and it's like well I was a victim of child abuse and nobody gives me even if I am egregiously wrong and and bad and things that I say why is it the child abusers get endless forgiveness but I because of their bad childhoods but I get no forgiveness but rather attack despite the fact that I had a very bad childhood Rob says this is what I think about my 15 years as a psychotherapist yeah Yes, you are going back to save the left behinders.
	Right?
	Because if you're out, you want to be out.
	And you see this, of course, all the time in movies, right?
	They kill the bad wizard and the castle is beginning to collapse and masonry is falling from the ceiling and everything's cracking apart and they have to go back to save someone.
	Or the marines.
	We don't leave anyone behind even if they're dead.
	No man left behind.
	No child left behind was a hundred billion dollar boondoggle back in the day.
	trying to close IQ gaps in achievement.
	It is such a common story to go back and not leave people behind, right?
	It's always the same, right?
	Someone gets wounded and somebody props them up and they try to run and move forward, right?
	The leg hurts and what's it all about?
	What are we always seeing all the time?
	If you leave enough people behind, All they do is tunnel horizontally under your society until the whole fucking thing collapses.
	If you leave enough people behind, the resentment, which I understand, and I don't even fault people for it, but the rage and resentment, this is one of the reasons why, particularly in a state of society, economic progress causes this unbelievable backlash, because people feel left behind.
	And we can't give money to everyone without making money useless to everyone.
	But surely there can be no rational limit on the compassion we can give to the wounded to say you are wounded and strong.
	because that's how we heal.
	We say, you are wounded and can heal.
	Because if you're wounded and you can't heal, the doctors can't do much and you go somewhere else.
	Maybe to the morgue.
	A funeral home.
	I went to a funeral today.
	And I'm of the age where the funerals start coming thick as crows.
	you They start to cluster and circle.
	Like vultures, if you're staggering across a desert, the horses begin to circle above
	you.
	And because the gathering clouds of gravestones are floating above my time in the generations,
	you You do think about your legacy.
	You do think about what you're going to leave behind and what your footprints in history are going to be.
	what will be written on your gravestone.
	And I think when you have a lot of gifts, and the gift of spontaneous communication
	is remarkable within me and surprises me almost every time.
	I think it's a great gift.
	And the funeral that I was at today had a lot of people.
	What will they say about you after you're gone?
	you you
	And what I want, I think, for people to get, or what moves me the most and what motivates me the most...
	It's something like... I don't know exactly how to phrase this, which is unusual for me,
	but that's where it is.
	I'm right at the edge of my unconscious and understanding.
	It is.
	He found the way out.
	And came back.
	Yeah.
	He found the way out and came back.
	He came back.
	He found the way out.
	you Because the story in Plato's cave is that the philosopher finds the way out of the caves, comes back and they kill him.
	Now, there's always that risk and Lord knows that's been promised to me on more than one occasion.
	He found the way out and came back.
	Because I feel like this show is almost like an underground railroad for victims of abuse
	to get to the light.
	And since I wanted people to come back, because you know it happens, somebody comes along in a generation of trauma and abuse, and is less bad, less abusive, less something, and then it changes the whole course of the gene pool, right?
	And they get out.
	And they never come back.
	They just get out.
	This is a widening divide, rich and poor, functional and dysfunctional.
	You get out and you never want to go back.
	And then the problem is that all of the more functional people gather over here and all the less functional people are over there.
	And anybody who gets out of the less functional sprints to the functional and never goes back.
	And it just widens.
	You take all the healthy people out of the messed up people and they never go back.
	And then the messed up people, the dysfunctional people, the trapped, People, the victimized people, the abused people, the broken people, look over at the shining city on the hill that has these big giant walls.
	None shall pass!
	But that doesn't work in society.
	.
	you you
	It doesn't work, with the state in particular, because those left behind rage at those who've escaped and never came back.
	I was around, you know, a fair number of functional families when I was a kid.
	I honestly, it was a real gift for me, like I was around, I wasn't just trapped in this absolute underworld.
	I mean, I was on a lot of sports teams.
	I did tennis.
	I did water polo.
	I was on the swim team.
	I was on the cross-country running team.
	I played a lot of soccer.
	Volleyball.
	So I was around the sports kids and a lot of the sports kids have some pretty functional households, man.
	You know, this idea that the jock is mean and the mangy kids and the weak kids are really nice and great?
	It's usually not the case.
	Jocks were pretty nice, man.
	But impatient.
	And didn't circle back.
	Didn't come back.
	Because they're just robustly healthy.
	So I was around those guys.
	Believe it or not, the Dungeons and Dragons kids, a lot of them had some pretty nice households.
	They really did.
	The computer kids, a lot of them had some pretty nice households.
	I was around them.
	Years and years and years and years and years.
	Nobody ever asked me once.
	Everybody knew.
	Everybody knew.
	They could see the dysfunction in the household.
	They witnessed it directly.
	Nobody ever said anything.
	Nobody.
	They were gone, baby.
	Good fucking luck, kid.
	We're out.
	We're in the city on the hill.
	You're down on Trash Planet.
	You're underground.
	We're above ground.
	Claw your way out.
	But we're gone and we ain't coming back.
	And everybody's just scrambling to get away.
	Get away, get away, get away.
	And then the gap between the functional and the dysfunctional gets wider and wider and wider and then eventually, blowback.
	Blowback.
	I have rarely said no to a calling.
	Rarely.
	I've been in call-ins where information comes up that's so shocking, I want to throw the headset off a cliff.
	But I grit my teeth and I hang in and I hang on.
	Because...
	If I can soar through those...
	Oh.
	bars somebody says I've tried to go back but I don't have the
	talent to truly have my My communication skills just aren't sufficient.
	I appreciate that.
	You could be absolutely right.
	But that's the amazing thing is that I don't have to go back and scour the dungeons, open the doors, poke my head in and people drag me in and feast on my corpse.
	I get tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap.
	That's what I get.
	Help me, help me, help me.
	I want out, I want out, I want out.
	I know there's something up there.
	I can hear people moving.
	I can hear people singing.
	I can hear the faint sounds of celebrations in amongst the droning NPC lament of those trapped and who trapped me down here.
	So I get the tap, tap, tap.
	I get the bat signal.
	And I can't go down to everybody's circumstances, but I can tell them the path out.
	you To be wounded and to be strong.
	To be wounded and not fake your strength.
	To be strong, do not exaggerate your wounds.
	The pretense of strength is a weakness.
	Don't make the pretense of weakness a strength.
	And so I go in and I wrestle with the guards and I wrestle with the
	larks and I wrestle and I try to talk people out.
	And I don't know.
	A better way to live for the world.
	I don't.
	He got out and came the fuck back.
	That's all I want on my tombstone.
	Maybe not, but the f-bomb.
	He got out and could have got away.
	He was safe.
	And he came back.
	Because I think that's the one thing that hasn't really been tried.
	Most people who get out, they're just gone, baby.
	They're just gone.
	on.
	Axel Ridge, yeah, yeah.
	Like the father in Tennessee Williams Glass Menagerie, the man
	who fell in...
	a telephone man... a telephone salesman who fell in love with long-distance.
	How did anyone ever get out of a coffin without busting a nail?
	Picture the father.
	He got out, he never came back.
	My father got out, never really came back.
	Other people whose gene pools got out, never came back.
	Never even acknowledged that I was in the prison.
	And I was like, that's really going to piss people off.
	It's really going to piss people off to be left behind like that and to have the world divided into the haves and the have-nots.
	And the haves and the have-nots is just empathy.
	Those who have received empathy and love and compassion and those who have received scalding and scars and whips.
	Somebody says, people like Stefan throw you a lifeline when you're drowning, people like my father throw you a fucking anchor.
	Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
	I'm sorry about that.
	So, if you want to do good things in the world and the world keeps going bad, you got to try something that hasn't been tried before.
	And I think that they're coming back with the exit map.
	You're welcome for coming back.
	It is my pleasure.
	There is nothing more healing than to provide what you were denied.
	Nobody came back for me.
	I know how painful that is.
	I know how you feel, like a lost chained soul in a dungeon that falls to the center of the earth into nothing.
	Somebody says, you saved me and my family.
	We talk about you almost every day.
	You're a real hero to us.
	Well, I appreciate that.
	I really do.
	And I don't mean to minimize the compliment.
	Honestly, I don't feel I could have done it any other way.
	It's like the money, the dangles, you know, and I've had money.
	I've had money offered over the years.
	I've had money offered over the years to do X, Y, or Z. No.
	No.
	Now we've got an entire world full of people who'll compromise.
	Why not just have a couple of people who don't?
	How about in the giant auction of the human soul we have a couple of people not for sale?
	Right?
	How about that?
	Just a couple.
	Doesn't have to be too many.
	just a couple of people, not for sale.
	So.
	you And that is
	The purpose of philosophy is to save the souls of the self-damned.
	I can't save the souls of the damned, but I can save the souls of the self-damned by
	wrestling with the falsehoods that keep them in hell.
	And that's what makes it all worthwhile.
	And you guys make it all worthwhile.
	And I'm genuinely sincere about that.
	I could not do this project of coming back without people tapping and listening.
	And especially like early on now it's a bit more established.
	The people early on it's like, well there's nothing like this in the world.
	This is completely bizarre that philosophy is used in this particular way.
	That you have self-knowledge plus deep morality combined for the first time that I've known of in human history, mostly because of technology, partly because of me, and has a lot to do with the generosity and kindness of the listeners, because when I opened up the call-in shows, I gotta tell you, I had no idea that it was going to go this particular way.
	I thought it would give me a lot of debate, some UPB, some Property rights, some capitalism versus socialism or whatever and some great stuff.
	I enjoy that stuff.
	No problem with that.
	Economics and all of that.
	I didn't know that it was going to be this giant portal of hands reaching from dungeons.
	I didn't know.
	Bye.
	And then the moment I saw the hands, how do you, you can't, you can't walk away from the hands reaching, because I was one of those hands.
	Philosophy saved me, I'll try to help it save others.
	But once you see the hands, black and bloody, broken, bruised, the hands reaching through the grates, the hands reaching through the bars, what are you supposed to do?
	Well, uh, gotta go catch a movie!
	Hey, let's go to a disco!
	It's like, you understand that the hands are there.
	Always.
	And once you see, I don't know why people don't see the hands.
	I don't know why people don't see the hands and try to help.
	The hands through the bars.
	How do people not see it?
	You're walking down.
	It's the same world.
	I keep talking about the upside, like the surface and the dungeon.
	No, we're all in the same place.
	That's what the wild thing about it.
	I use these analogies of distance, but there's no distance at all.
	You're literally stepping over, hands reaching from floor grates.
	To get to your yacht.
	Because if you're on the surface and there are people a mile underground, it's easy to forget them.
	But they're everywhere, everywhere you go, always.
	There are the hands reaching through the bars.
	The pleas, the cries, the sounds, the needs.
	How do you ignore that?
	How do people ignore that?
	I don't know.
	I don't know, but they do.
	They do.
	and then they create a subterranean resentful blowback that takes down their civilization.
	You know life just for me it just life gets just so much easier more pleasant when I just
	== Notes you
	You know, I say, let Jesus take the wheel.
	It's philosophy.
	Let philosophy take the wheel.
	What does philosophy dictate?
	I'll do that.
	Because that's new.
	For philosophy to dictate things in the real world, to actually be a benefit to people, I'll just do that.
	I'll just do that.
	Not that complicated.
	It can be difficult at times.
	I'll admit that.
	Doesn't go the way that I want it to at times.
	That's fine.
	Like, I know what the hell I'm supposed to be doing.
	I mean, I'm part of a larger set of forces.
	But it's just so much easier and better to just say, what does reason and virtue dictate
	that the world needs?
	you And it's funny because you know I came up in the business world as a marketing and all of that so I'm like okay well what are people going to tell me what philosophy should do?
	People are going to tell me.
	Open conversation.
	Open it up.
	Open it up.
	Hope I started talking about my childhood second or third show.
	It's going to open it up.
	Talk honestly.
	What do people want?
	And you all have told me for 18 years what you want and I've done my best and I think
	I've done a great job.
	At least the best job that I can do in trying to provide it.
	.
	you Somebody said, somebody says, I had decided to bring up the physical abuse and neglect from my father during my childhood.
	He responded with yelling and droned on about how much he has been, how much has been given monetarily.
	When that didn't work, the manipulation, he came at me with a fist, not wavering.
	I said goodbye forever, never felt more free.
	Sad.
	I really pity him.
	If people knew how much fun it was to be good, they would not really be tempted by evil.
	And I'm sorry about that story, but it's almost a relief getting that kind of clarity.
	For whoever wants to save his life will lose it.
	Yeah.
	People are like, damn, I'm out.
	I'm not going back.
	Everyone stuck back there are losers.
	Okay.
	Welcome to the angry mob of the eternally rejected.
	Nope.
	Nope, nope, nope.
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