May 3, 2021 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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| The kindest thing that you can do to people who won't listen to reason is let them hit rock bottom. | |
| Say that again. The kindest thing you can do to people who won't listen to reason is to let them hit rock bottom. | |
| She's not listening to reason. | |
| She doesn't have a sense of shame or guilt or Any horror at what she's done and what she exposed you to? | |
| I don't know that she's ever sat down and really apologized to you for the incredible danger she put you in as a kid for money. | |
| And the number of women who use their children as financial fucking leverage is truly staggering. | |
| The number of people, of women, who use their children as financial leverage is really appalling. | |
| I mean, we know about this in the family courts, but in this particular instance, he had money, he was willing to spend it on her, and she was willing to put you in unbelievable levels of sexual and physical danger by having you shacked up with a creep pedophile. | |
| God knows who he was thinking of when he had sex with your mom. | |
| Actually, God wouldn't know. That's too much even for God. | |
| Satan would know, but not God. | |
| And It's just, where could she possibly get any kind of self-knowledge or wisdom or potential for salvation from? | |
| Well, she can't get it as long as people are pretending that she didn't do terrible things and holding her accountable. | |
| And, you know, there's a show called Intervention, which I've watched a couple of, and the pattern is always the same. | |
| There's this drug addict, or usually it's a drug addict or alcoholic, but some addict, right? | |
| And they're emotional terrorists, as these people tend to be, and, you know, if you don't drive me to go and get my drugs, I'm going to kill myself. | |
| If you don't drive me, I'm going to set fire to the house. | |
| If you don't drive me, I'm just going to go and sell myself on the street, and God knows what's going to happen. | |
| And so, you know, the parents being terrified, or whoever being terrified, will go and drive her and make sure she's safe and get the drugs and pay for her, right? | |
| If you don't give me money for drugs, I'm going to go and steal it and I could get shot and I could end up in prison for 10 years. | |
| Again, it's the drug talking. | |
| They're beyond free will. | |
| They have just become, in a sense, kind of rabid animals or emotional terrorists is probably the better way to put it. | |
| What happens is the counselors, they have the same advice every time. | |
| Stop enabling her. And you have to absolutely say, like, you have to go and get help and stick with the program, or I'm having absolutely nothing to do with you. | |
| I'm having absolutely nothing to do with you. | |
| Like, you're cut off from money, from my house, from emotions, from loyalty, from love, from anything. | |
| That's a pretty standard way, as far as I understand it, of dealing with people. | |
| So, they're saying, listen, you didn't stop it when it was easy to stop back in the day, right? | |
| Like, all habits start as cobwebs and end up as chains for better and for worse, right? | |
| And so, you didn't stop it when it was easy to stop. | |
| You're escalating now, and me trying to help you is only making things worse, right? | |
| There are some people, you help them, and things get a lot better, and it's wonderful. | |
| And there are some people... | |
| Who... They just need to hit rock bottom. | |
| I mean, isn't that the story of the flood in the Bible? | |
| Humanity has to hit rock bottom in order to change its ways. | |
| And letting people fall is the only chance they're going to bounce. | |
| You try to hold them, everybody goes down forever. | |
| Letting people fall is the only way they can possibly... | |
| Have a chance of bouncing. There's no guarantee, right? | |
| I mean, I've let my mother fall for 25 years, and she never did bounce, which means that if I'd have held on to her, we both would have fell forever. | |
| I wouldn't be having this conversation. | |
| I wouldn't be married to my wife. | |
| I wouldn't be a father. I wouldn't be doing the good that I'm doing in the world, right? | |
| So if people bounce, if they wake up in a gutter, blood on their hands, Sirens around them, then okay, maybe they can change. | |
| Maybe. But if they simply fall forever, they would have just taken you down with them. | |
| And I can't let my own soul and free will and moral integrity be compromised by evildoers I had no control over. | |
| I can't. I just, I can't. | |
| Then that's how good disappears from the world, as evil drags it into the void. | |
| By promising change, which can't be achieved. | |
| You know, one of the things that kept me around my mom for so long was this belief in free will, that she could choose better. | |
| Once I accepted, as I've been working with rather recently, to say, okay, she was post-choice. | |
| She was post-free will by the time I knew her. | |
| If I'd have thought about that earlier, I would have not spent as much time with her as I did, trying to help, trying to fix. | |
| And all she was doing was dragging me down into the void with her. | |
| You know, some people you swim out to try and save them from drowning and they're grateful and you pull them to shore. | |
| But a lot of people will just drag you down with them and the Grim Reaper gets two for the price of one and that's no good. | |
| So I just wanted to sort of point that out that your mother has done, in my view, unbelievable immorality in her life. | |
| You don't sell your children for money. | |
| I mean, I've Maybe things were never put that starkly to her. | |
| Maybe she never really understood it. | |
| I did an interview. It's not out yet what the guy was saying. | |
| One thing I've said, if you ask the right questions, what you need to do becomes blindingly obvious. | |
| And if somebody had said to her, wait, are you taking this guy's money and offering up your kids in exchange for money? | |
| That's not good. That's, like, if it had been put to her that way, not that you would be able to do that, but if it had been put to her that way, which, of course, her religious community or moral community should have done, then that would have been pretty clear, right? Right. | |
| But either she never thought of it, or it never occurred to her, or it occurred to her and she ignored it. | |
| But... You can't help her. |
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