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Jan. 10, 2020 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
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Dad Versus Politician: Elizabeth Warren and the Lost Girls
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Hi everybody, Stefan Molyneux from Freedom, Maine.
It's time for Professional Politician vs.
Professional Dad. This is the palindrome website Elle, which has an interview with Elizabeth Warren called I've Got a Plan for That.
And Elizabeth Warren, who wants your vote, not your happiness, is going to be up against the cage match of life advice with me, Professional Dad, who really, really does and doesn't want your vote at all.
All right, here we go. Hi, I'm Elizabeth Warren, and I'm running for President of the United States.
I'm here with... Whoa. Okay, so these jump cuts, just wanted to point out, highly manipulative.
Because it's like, I'm Elizabeth Warren, and then you zoom in, like you're fascinated, and they've really got control of your attention.
Plus, you know, I guess one of the things I do is challenge the hyper-minor attention span generation with just standing and talking without a whole lot of jump cuts or really cuts at all, but they'll jump cut you into oblivion here.
L, to solve your problems.
Because if you haven't heard, I have a plan for that.
So she's going to solve your problems.
So maybe it's a professional mom here versus professional dad.
Who knows? Oh yeah, the tinkly piano music of feminine surrender is...
I mean, this stuff just gets the estrogen coursing up like an old faithful sneeze straight to the ovaries.
So, for those who are listening, this says, I've been casually dating a guy for the past three months, but now he's ghosting me.
He won't return my texts, but he still looks at all my Instagram stories.
This really is a question for a dad, not a politician, but let's hear what she has to say, and then I'll tell you what I have to say.
What do I do? Give him up.
You're too good for him.
If he wants to go silent, let him go.
Okay, so that's not particularly great advice.
Because it appeals immediately to vanity, right?
And it's saying to the woman, nothing you did was any kind of problem.
And it's all the guy's fault.
You're too good for him and someone.
And what I would say, so casually dating a guy for the past three months means that you're in a sexual relationship, but you're not monogamous.
In other words, you are keeping your options open.
So casually dating, as far as I understand it, certainly when I was younger, meant that you're having sex, but it's like friends with benefits and nobody's got any commitment.
There's no plan for any future growth of the relationship.
It's just sex for sex's sake.
And now he's ghosting me.
It's like, well, you shouldn't have sex without commitment.
You shouldn't have sex with a guy unless you really like him, unless you have a really great connection, unless you'd be really great friends, unless you respect his virtues and his integrity and his honor and his honesty and his loyalty and his moral courage and all this kind of stuff.
And he in turn respects yours because love...
Love is not something we can control.
Love is kind of like health. You can act to affect it, but you can't control it directly.
Love is our involuntary emotional response to virtue if we ourselves are virtuous.
If we encounter a virtuous person and we are immoral, then we tend to experience hatred and rage and contempt and so on.
But if we're virtuous, we encounter a moral person, then we feel very positive towards that person because like attracts like, and that's called love.
Now, If you have had sex with a guy without any kind of commitment, it means that you're just keeping the back burner going.
He's kind of half in the friend zone, half in the maybe boyfriend zone.
And you're saying, well, he's cool enough to have sex with, but he's not cool enough to be my boyfriend.
Don't do that. Don't use your body that way.
Don't just pursue base mammalian lusts and orgasms and stuff like that.
That stuff is all designed to help you build a solid foundational relationship, hopefully a family, all that kind of good stuff.
Don't use it for your own petty pleasures.
Don't use it just to feel good because it's like a drug, right?
Sex used properly is the foundational glue of our entire civilization.
Because it bounds families together.
It causes the values to descend from usually the stay-at-home mom to the children.
It pair bonds.
It's the foundation of our civilization.
It's not for you to just go pursue some Gwyneth Paltrow golem-induced on a gurney big O. That's another video I did.
So, that's what it's for.
And you don't use it just for your own personal pleasure.
It's a very, very powerful thing.
And like a drug, right?
If you use a drug in the proper way, then it actually heals you.
It makes you better. If you use the drug in the wrong way, you will get addicted and your life could be destroyed.
You will feel empty and you're constantly insecure and in pursuit of that drug.
So don't use sex as a drug.
Use it in its proper context, in its proper way.
You'll get better sex, you'll get lifelong sex, and it will make you happy, not sad.
Well, let's see what it's a little before.
Give him up. You're too good for him.
If he wants to go silent, let him go.
He is not the one for you.
Guys who do that, mm-mm.
You're better than that. Well, how do you know, Elizabeth?
Well, you're just appealing to women's vanity.
You're saying, well, you just let them go.
You're not telling them to change their behavior.
You're not saying, hey, you made a mistake giving up your sexual access to a trashy guy who kind of half-stalks you on the internet but doesn't return any of your texts or phone calls, so maybe you should up the standard of the guy you're looking for.
You're like, nope, you're too good for him.
It's like, okay, well, if you're too good for him, why were you with him in the first place?
Now, alongside with telling women to break up with guys, she also says, get a dog.
Can't imagine why fertility and child racing is on the decline in the West.
So another comment or question is, I really want a dog, but my roommate isn't into the idea.
How do I convince her?
Introduce her to a dog, a specific dog.
You've got to move from the general dog, where she's thinking, oh, dog hair and smells funny and, you know, licks on you and stuff like that.
And get her to go with you, maybe to a shelter.
And talk about, well, if you were going to, which one do you like?
Oh, look at that one.
What would you name? Make it specific.
And you'll have a roommate who'll be into a dog.
So, manipulate. See, that's interesting.
Get someone to attach to the dog, and then they'll want to keep the dog.
Unlike the boyfriend who you just dump.
Alright. So, this woman says, I'm a few years out of college, and I have a ton of student loans, but between my moving and my entry-level salary, I've racked up a lot of credit card debt.
Okay, so the first thing that I would say is, did you choose a degree that has no economic value?
Okay, that was a bad decision.
I'm really, really sorry about that.
Your parents should have talked to you about that and you should have done more research about it.
I have a ton of student loans, not I took out a bunch of student loans, not I signed a bunch of documents to borrow stuff.
And between moving and my entry-level salary, I've racked up a lot of credit card debt.
Now, that blames external factors for the debt, moving an entry-level salary.
Look, we all started out somewhere.
I mean, I started out in a bookstore, in a hardware store, and I cleaned offices.
I was a waiter. We all start out.
But you've got to keep your expenses below what you make.
It's not that complicated, right?
And you haven't taken responsibility, right?
You chose college. You chose to take out those loans.
You chose to move.
You chose to spend more than you make.
So I would say, first of all, stop blaming circumstances in college and all that for your debt.
Which should I try and pay off first?
Now that's interesting because she's saying, should I pay off my credit card debt or should I pay off my student loan debt?
Now that's also interesting because it shows the chilling lack of financial literacy of this particular woman.
Now, of course, your credit card debt Is going to be a higher interest than your student loan.
Because a lot of people default on credit card debt and so everyone else has to pick up the bill.
So this means she doesn't know the difference between, say, 6% and 18% after college.
Alright, sorry, it takes a while for people to read this, I suppose.
I have a plan for that.
And that is, we need to cancel student loan debt.
This makes no sense at all.
We're crushing an entire generation with student loan debt.
So the first thing is come help me do this.
Okay, so the first thing is, see, if you're having trouble making money, making enough money to cover your credit card debts, the first thing that you need to do is go and work for Elizabeth Warren for free.
Don't get a part-time job that actually pays you money.
What you need to do is roll the dice and try and get Elizabeth Warren elected so that she can cancel $1.5 trillion of student loan debt.
Now, the student loan debt bubble is monstrous.
It's unjust. It largely is the result of terrible government schools because if you come out of a government school after 12 years and you're worth economically virtually nothing, well, those schools are complete and total garbage, right?
But rather than fix schools so that they can produce people who are economically productive and know how to be an entrepreneur and know how to provide value and have particular skills, instead of that, what they do is jack up the minimum wage to cover up how terrible government schools are and then send people off to college where they then pay to be indoctrinated what they do is jack up the minimum wage to cover up how terrible government schools are and then send people off to college where they then pay to be indoctrinated in liberty-hating Marxist doctrines and
Not only are they resentful of the system and they feel like a cubicle slave and a wage slave and they resent the free market as a whole, but also because they have all of this debt, you have to pay them more than people who don't have this kind of debt.
So it's generally bad as a whole.
The question is, of course, let's say you cancel all of the student debts in America.
So suddenly banks, which had $1.5 trillion worth of assets, now have those assets completely wiped out.
Hey, remember what happened when the housing price in America dipped 5 or 10 percent?
Well, the entire economic house of cards almost came crashing down.
The government runs the monetary system.
The government runs the interest rates.
The government runs most of the economy.
And so a loss of value...
That, I believe, was quite a bit less than $1.5 trillion, virtually collapsed the entire system and required a multi-hundred-billion-dollar, some say trillion-dollar, bailout.
So if you just wipe $1.5 trillion off the asset ledger of lenders, how are they going to survive?
I mean, I'm not sure they all should survive, and I'd love to see this whole stuff cancelled, but what's the plan?
I have a two-cent wealth tax on the great fortunes.
Okay, you heard that right.
She said, I have a two-cent wealth tax.
Now, what she means, of course, is a two-percent wealth tax.
I have a two-cent wealth tax on the...
A two-cent wealth tax.
I've got to think that's 2% wealth tax, but I guess they don't even care enough about accuracy and details to take that again, to do a retake of that where you said, no, no, no, you said 2 cent.
What you mean is 2%, which is very, well, it's enormously different, but I guess it doesn't really matter because tax the rich, you're off the hook.
You don't have any responsibility for being lied to about student value, and you don't have a responsibility for taking out loans because I have a 2 cent tax.
The great fortunes in this country, and we can use that money for a whole lot of stuff, but part of it is to cancel student loan debt for 43 million Americans.
So there's the big answer.
In the meantime, make sure you're making at least your minimum payments on both, your student loans and your credit card debt, because otherwise you get caught in the penalties and penalty rates of interest, and man, that hole keeps getting deep fast.
And if you're really not able to do that, you need to go see a lawyer.
There's sometimes debt consolidation, bankruptcy, lots of other things.
No bankruptcy for student loans as far as I understand it.
But at least go talk to a lawyer about what's possible for you if you can't hit those minimum payments.
So that's very interesting. So, I mean, the Republicans are almost as bad in many ways, but a Democrat here is saying, boy, you really have to pay your debts.
You really have to pay off your debts.
A Democrat is saying that it's really, really important to pay off Your debts.
Boy, I wonder if her plan requires America to go into any more debt.
In other words, it's really, really important for a young person to pay off student loan debts and credit card debts, or at least pay the minimum.
But governments, you see, can just keep digging America deeper and deeper into a fiscal hole.
So she understands it's important to pay off your debts.
She has no plan for doing that, of course, for America as a whole.
And in the meantime, stay strong.
We're going to be in this fight together.
Next one. I try to keep up with all the news, but it makes me feel, feel, feeling so angry and sad and helpless.
How do I stay educated but also sane?
Exposure to the news makes this woman feel crazy, angry, sad, and helpless.
All right. Well, that's a fair question, but here's the deal.
You've got to remember, We are going to make change in 2020.
Do you see that, the we, and there's the massive zoom in to, like, the point where you can count on nostril hairs?
And this is funny, too.
This is just a male-female thing.
Ann Coulter, who's, you know, a real Valkyrie in many ways, she talked once about how amazed she was at how youthful Elizabeth Warren's skin looked and demanded to know what her skincare regimen was, which is...
Something that I would never have crossed my mind, but I just wanted to share.
It's just one of the delightful differences of the delightfully incomprehensible species known as women.
Every day that we work on it, we get just a little bit closer.
So make sure you're signed up at ElizabethWarren.com so you get emails and so you get texts.
Because we talk about what's broken, but we also talk about what we're doing to fix it.
Because that's where hope is.
You know? You show up to volunteer.
You show up to vote.
That really means you've got that little piece of hope still in you that in a democracy, no matter how bad it is, together, we're going to make this better.
That's what we're going to do.
Now, this is the kind of bedside manner that you have with a terminally ill patient, frankly.
Well, there's really nothing we can do except Cross her fingers and have hope.
I mean, that's really chilling.
Again, there's no plan. It's just a vague optimism.
This little tax, which isn't going to generate enough to cover everything that she wants to spend money on, thus plunging the youth further into unquantifiable debt, intergenerational debt through national debts and deficits and...
And unfunded liabilities and so on.
So it's just positive.
Look, I understand. I mean, if you're at the end of your tether, if you're seeing these bills pile up, if you can't get a decent job because you took a garbage degree.
And look, I took a degree, my undergraduate, I did two years of English literature.
I did finished up in history and then I did a graduate degree on history.
My graduate thesis was on the history of philosophy, Kant and Hegel and Locke and Plato.
But I didn't...
I could see the diversity stuff coming in as a white male.
You just knew it wasn't going to be very productive to try and stay in academia.
But I ended up starting a software company and growing that.
And oddly enough, I ended up using a few of the skills that I learned.
In the arts degree I had, which was populated by a fair number of old-school, tougher scholars.
There wasn't any of this... Well, there was some Marxist garbage, but not overwhelming.
I ended up using it in this show, so I accidentally kind of stumbled upon something better, but...
Yeah, this is sad.
The people who need this kind of comfort because they're reading the news, well, it also tells you what kind of news they are reading as well because there is a lot of positive news coming out of America.
I know that the Fed is pumping money into the economy.
I know it's a bit of a house of cards, but as far as just employment goes and the stock market goes and so on, things are up.
Demand is up. Real wages have started to rise for the first time in decades.
Unemployment is at an all-time low.
And there's a lot of good news that's coming out of the economy, but this tells you that her constituency is just reading the Orange Man bad Calamityville disaster sites.
I feel like I always look so awkward in photos.
Any tips for taking the perfect selfie?
I don't know. Should we do it? I can't.
Well, that's just here.
I don't think I'll have anything to say about it.
I mean, I have no idea what to say.
Yep. Forget about yourself. Think about the person who's taking the selfie with you and how much fun they're having or what it is that's behind you or the funny thing that you want to show off.
Stop thinking about yourself.
And you know what's fun?
It's when you go back and look at the selfies later on.
I mean, much later on.
But when you go back and look at them, what you mostly remember is what a good time you had.
Um, not that, you know, you didn't look exactly like you wanted to.
And that's what it should be all about.
For me, selfies are about fun.
So, have some fun.
I guess you can also have the kind of hairstyle that would make, that Robert Redford would have when he was 24.
All right, somebody says, I'm heading home for the holidays and I don't see eye to eye politically with my family.
How do I keep our conversation civil and not feel like I'm hiding my beliefs?
Boy, do I get that one.
I have three brothers back in Oklahoma.
One is a Democrat.
Do the math on that.
Here's how I see it.
I didn't know that, that two of her brothers were Republicans.
I like to talk about things that are specific.
Not general. Not, oh, we just hate that guy.
I like to talk about very specific things.
Like, for example, student loan debt.
And how it is that back when I was a kid...
You could go to college on $50 a semester.
For a price that I could pay for on a part-time waitressing job, I was able to finish my four-year diploma and become a public school teacher.
I taught special education.
That opportunity was open.
I actually think she would have been really good at that.
I mean, she does have a kind of gentle, hypnotic, car-political, dissolving kind of stare in a very positive and genial manner.
But here's the thing, and this is always astounding.
When you hear people complain about the high price of education, she made, what, $400,000 a year plus at Harvard, and she lied her way in to get the position by faking a Native American history, pretending that she was Native American, because I think her father and she lied her way in to get the position by faking a Native American history, pretending that she was Native American, because I think her father said that they had a relative who had high cheekbones,
She got her way into a job that paid ridiculously high salary, a ridiculously high salary for very little actual work.
So then saying, gosh, you know, I can't believe how much the price of what I was radically overpaid for went up.
Well, partly because you took all that kind of money.
Now, you say, well, she was offered that kind of money.
Who would say no? It's like, okay, well, then what you need to do It's not necessarily talk about cancelling student loan debt, although I think there's really a case to be made for that.
I think there's a lot of fraudulent stuff floating around in what's promised.
But a lot of that is to do with the culture, that the leftists who are in control of the culture have all of these, if you don't go to college, you're doomed stories so that they can get people to pay for their own indoctrination.
And they can get people to go into debt for tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars, young people.
In order that Marxists can tell them how they're going to be exploited in the future by people who will offer them a job.
Come on. I mean, so, yeah, it's a mess.
And the fact that she should be talking about cutting government funding to universities, which would cause them to have to be more selective about who they choose to go in, and also she should be talking about allowing students to discharge their student loan debts through bankruptcy.
Of course. Of course they should.
But, of course, the leftist media doesn't want that to happen, because if you can discharge your student loans through bankruptcy, Then people have to be much more selective about who they lend to.
And that, again, is going to have fewer people in there paying for their own leftist indoctrination.
So it's a horrible, horrible, exploitive mess.
Now that opportunity is just gone.
I'm big on universal college tuition-free because I think it's an investment we ought to make.
You don't have to hit somebody with all of it, but just one that you know a lot about and that you think is really important and that you stay on top of it.
It's really important to pay your debts, but I want to give everyone college for free.
Again, no reduction in cost in terms of no reduction in the amount of funding that goes to college.
Everything becomes free. Now, of course, the government has been investing more and more in colleges, and because student loans are guaranteed and because you can't discharge them through bankruptcy, More and more people have been going to college, which means that colleges just have to lower their standards.
Because this is the thing, right? They said, wow, you know, people who go to college do really well.
It's like, yeah, that's because they're really, really smart.
And genetics account for about 80% of your intelligence by the time you're in your teens.
There's certainly some wiggle room and definitely room for improvement, which is partly why I do this show, to try and help people become smarter and wiser.
But expanding college to more and more people doesn't make them smarter any more than letting more and more people onto the basketball team makes them taller.
Ah, yes. I've been increasingly worried about access to abortion in the United States.
Should I go ahead and get an IUD, that's an intrauterine device, as soon as possible?
That's a form of birth control. So that's interesting.
So this woman is saying that if access to abortion is decreased, she will take methods to ensure she doesn't get pregnant.
Huh. Isn't that interesting?
Because people say, well, there's this many women who want abortions every day or every year, and it's an appalling amount.
And this woman's saying, well, if I don't have easy access to abortion, then I'll just use more effective birth control.
And wouldn't that be better than abortion?
Prevention is better than cure, so to speak.
Not that I want to ever characterize the baby as a disease, but that's an interesting question.
And my plan is we can't just rely on the Supreme Court anymore.
For 47 years, we've counted on Roe vs.
Wade to be enforced through our courts.
And frankly, for 47 years, we've just been on our back foot about this, while different states have just chipped away and chipped away and chipped away at protection.
So, here's how I see this.
About three out of four Americans all across this country support the rule of Roe versus Wade.
For me, that means it's time to push on Congress.
Ah, you see, so when the majority of people support abortion, I don't know if that's true or not.
It doesn't strike me as true, but I haven't done the research.
If the majority of people support abortion, then abortion is valid.
But if the majority of people vote for Donald Trump or he gets in with the majority of the electoral votes, it's somehow an illegitimate presidency.
To make Roe vs.
Wade the rule of the land.
So I tell you what let's do.
Let's get into the fight politically.
Let's get into the fight to hang on to the United States House of Representatives.
We know they'll be with us.
To take back the Senate so it's not in Republican control.
And to win the White House.
We do that. We can make Roe vs.
Wade the law of the land for everybody everywhere.
Now, just think about this, because this is really powerful, deep, and fascinating.
Why is guaranteeing the right to an abortion so foundational to the left?
Why are women so desperate to hang, so many women, so desperate to hang on to this right to an abortion?
I mean, in the law, if a man kills a woman who's pregnant, he's charged with a double homicide.
So there's no question that killing the fetus is murder.
If killing the fetus against the will of the mother is murder, then the mother killing the fetus obviously against the will of the fetus, because the fetus would rather be born, as most people who are alive would rather be born.
That's not murder. As I said before in the show, sex is a big person's game that makes real people.
And the reason why men are attracted to women, the reason why women have hormones and want sex and orgasms, and the reason why men are ambitious and want to go out and make money and pay for dates and so on, is because of fertility.
Now, to strip mine male desire for the sake of gaining resources in the absence of providing the exchange good historically, which was the raising of his children, is a real power that a lot of women don't want to give up.
They want to look hot. They want to look like a hot mess.
Like a hot mess is somebody who can trigger a man's desire but is too crazy and unstable like some weeping woman in a Cars video to actually raise his children or be a good homemaker or homekeeper or whatever, right?
And the hot mess phenomenon, I mean, if you look at models, right?
Models being, I don't know, Models in fashion being gay men's revenge upon their mothers?
I don't know. But if you look at models, they're tottering around in high heels in the most ridiculous outfits, not for the raising of children, not for running around a house and trying to keep up with toddlers and all that kind of stuff.
And so if you look at...
This focus on being attractive to men without the reciprocal provision of family and taking care of the home, well that is a form of narcissistic exploitation of male desire and using it again against its intended purpose.
The purpose of male desire, the purpose of female desire is to pair bond and create a stable foundation for For a long-term family to have children, to reproduce your culture, to be part of the great chain of being that goes back four billion years and should not stop just because you like it when a hot guy with great hair and abs asks you for a drink and you get that thrill of dopamine, right? So if the consequences of sex actually accrue to people in any kind of negative way, then women have to start closing their legs.
Women have to start choosing men more carefully.
They can't just be in there for the soul-destroying recreational sex that is occurring.
They don't have to wait until their early 30s when they have the inevitable epiphany that they've had their party days, but now they want to settle down because they're hitting the wall and they can't compete with younger women.
So realizing that female beauty and female desirability is a very, very fleeting drug and it should be used to create a family.
It should not be used for narcissistic, oh, my phone's blowing up or somebody else liked my Instagram picture or I got swiped left on Tinder or why right or whatever the hell it is.
It should be used to get yourself a quality man, a quality woman.
If you want to have a family, great.
If you don't want to have a family, you still want to have a quality person around to go through life with you and stop using sex as a drug to feed your vanity because you think it's feeding you, but it is in fact eating you.
Access to consequence-free sex is foundational to the destruction of the West.
And I'm not saying that these guys are focused exclusively on the destruction of the West or anything like that, but that's the consequence.
And if you say to women, look, we have complex questions about abortion.
And if you say to women, well, if you want equality to men, then you can choose to give your child up to adoption.
You can choose to kill your unborn baby.
You can choose all of that without the man being able to say anything about it.
And then if you choose to keep the child, the man is forced to pay for the next 20 years for your decision, even though he has no say in the matter.
Then basic principles of equality, universality, and fairness would say that the man should be able to opt out of parenthood.
In other words, the man should be able to sign a document if he does not want a child and say, I renounce all of my legal rights to this child and also all of my legal obligations.
Because the woman can do that through unilaterally giving the child up for adoption or having an abortion.
And then the man should be able to renounce all of his legal rights and responsibilities over becoming a father.
You should not force a man into fatherhood any more than you should force a woman into motherhood.
But of course governments won't do that because that would go very much against the grain of women who want the consequence-free sexual addiction.
And also then it means that governments will end up having to pay more in welfare costs because they can't Turn the man into a vagina slave for parenthood.
And again, men, stop having sex with women in this irresponsible fashion too.
It's brutal on both parties, but it's particularly bad for women.
All right, let's finish up. Oh, I realized a week later that I forgot to wish my BFF best friend ever a happy birthday.
How do I make it up to her?
Yeah, I'm sorry. I can't end on this trashy note.
So yeah, that's the state of American politics.
It's something desperately sad about turning to Elizabeth Warren for these little personal problems and personal foibles.
How do I talk about this?
And how do I deal with a guy who ghosted me?
And how do I get my roommate to want a dog?
And how do I take a perfect selfie?
It just shows how much intergenerational knowledge has been lost when women abandoned families went into the workforce for very little net gain after you take into account additional taxes, another car.
Additional expenses, dry cleaning, clothing, childcare costs, and all of that.
Women ended up abandoning their families, going into the workforce, and we lost all of the little bits of knowledge that are passed down from mother to children.
And of course, often from father to children, given how many kids in America, America has the highest rate of father absent homes in the entire world.
And it means that people are so lost and so confused about how to live.
That they're following their base reptile brain hormonal orgasm hot pursuit buttons and they're turning to manipulative, exploitive politicians on the internet for advice on deeply personal issues.
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