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Oct. 15, 2019 - Freedomain Radio - Stefan Molyneux
09:47
Sex, Power, Kim Kardashian and Kanye West
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Okay, some really, really fascinating sexual politics at work on keeping up with the Kardashians.
Now, to be honest, this is not a show that I watch, but I heard about this one, which was really, really fascinating.
So, of course, Kanye West is married to Kim Kardashian.
Who is kind of perplexing.
I gotta start with the sex tape.
Is the daughter of the famous Simpson lawyer defender Robert Kardashian.
And doesn't appear to have any other talents other than looking like Jessica Rabbit and having hair that could audition for the King of Flatland.
But anyway. So there's this thing called the Met Gala, which is a big fashion event, and Kim Kardashian has had kind of an uneasy relationship with the fashion world, but she decided to go full blast campiness with regards to her figure, and so she got a guy to design a corset.
Now, a corset, of course, is something that squishes a woman's middle, accentuates her bust, accentuates her waist, and thus triggers a sort of programmed hip-to-waist ratio sexual biofeedback mechanism from Men.
And, I mean, corsets have a pretty nasty history.
I mean, women used to have ribs removed to make their hourglass figure even more hourglass-y.
And the problem with corsets is that you normally use a little bit of belly tension to keep your stomach in, particularly over 50.
But women who wore corsets regularly lost abdominal muscle strength to the point where they couldn't even push out babies and many of them died in childbirth.
So it's kind of a freaky thing.
But she got this corset made.
And yeah, she did look completely...
To me, it's not pleasant. It's just too exaggerated.
It's too ridiculous. But...
Anyway, so Kanye West was upset with Kim Kardashian's dress.
Basically, it was like a naked dress or it's like the wet look and so on.
And he said, it affects my soul when your pictures are too sexy.
And it's his last minute disapproval over her underwear style Met Gala dress.
So Kim Kardashian is 38.
She spent eight months perfecting this look, but was left anxiety ridden when her husband criticized her appearance at the last minute.
So he said, look, I just made this transition from being a rapper, looking at all these girls, looking at my wife.
He mused like, oh, my girl needs to be like the other girls, showing her body off.
He said, I didn't realize that that was affecting my soul and my spirit as someone that's married and loved and the father of now, what, about to be four kids?
I think they're having a kid through a surrogate.
So yeah, they're just a couple of days away from becoming parents of their fourth child, whose name is Sam, kind of a hint as to his recent conversion to Christianity.
And so I guess that how she keeps her figure despite having all these kids.
So Kanye West said, a corset is like a form of underwear.
It's hot. It's like, it's hot for who?
Though, right? And that's a very fascinating and important question.
So she got really upset. So she said, so the night before the match you're going to come in here and say that you're not into a corset bust?
I'm getting really bad anxiety.
What are you talking about? She says, I don't need any more negative energy for you to now say that you're not into me in a tight dress.
He said, you are my wife and it affects me when pictures are too sexy.
And she said, well you built me up to be this sexy person and confident person.
And all this stuff, and just because you're on a journey and you're on a transformation doesn't mean that I'm in the same spot with you.
Now, okay, so there is some evidence, of course, that Kanye West did build her up as a sex symbol, because I think that's, obviously, that's her prophet.
She can't sing. She doesn't write much, I don't think.
She's studying to be a lawyer, and she has spoken about the Armenian genocide to her credit, but, I mean, she's known for being pretty and curvaceous, right?
I mean, she's got this butt that you could use as a step ladder to fix a light bulb, right?
Anyway, so Kanye West recently converted to Christianity, which of course is giving him some sense of modesty and qualities of character rather than of bootiness.
But Kardashian...
Kim Kardashian has reasons to push back.
So this is from an article.
West, after all, has rapped about gangbangs having sex with his four sisters-in-law, sending dick pics and implying he wants to have sex with Taylor Swift, among many other explicit lyrics.
But so, of course, that's the beauty of Christianity in many ways, that there is a redemption narrative available for just about everyone.
And so that's the power that he is now interested in modesty.
Now, of course, Kim Kardashian's female fans are kind of outraged at all of this.
That a husband would have some...
He didn't forbid her to wear the dress.
He was just expressing how he felt about it.
That she's just about the mother of four children.
She's, what, 38?
So she's pushing 40 and it just seems kind of ridiculous to dress up like some incredible style, bootylicious Barbie caricature when she's almost 40.
And all that, right?
So women are outraged. And I think that's really, really interesting.
The question is, why are women outraged?
Ladies, I'll tell you why you're outraged.
Let me mansplain things for you.
Because even though I'm a man, you all know this stuff is totally true.
So before I hit puberty...
I really didn't think much about girls.
I mean, they were fine, you know, but they weren't very good at tag, and they didn't like war games, they didn't read the same comics, they didn't read the same books.
I mean, it was fine, but just didn't have a huge amount in common with them.
And then after a man or a boy hits puberty, it's really basically you're possessed by a devil, and that devil is called lust.
And it's fine, it's natural, it's normal, it's healthy.
It's kind of why we're all here as a species.
It's kind of why we have a civilization, because men build...
And process resources in order to woo women.
But it is.
And Socrates said this later in his life, in his 70s, I think, that it was great to be freed from this devil or this demon of lust as he's got it gotten older.
So the purpose, of course, of cranking up the male hormones to lust after women is to overcome our fear of asking women out and facing rejection, right?
So you have this push of hormones and you have this pull or this canyon you've got to cross over, which is the fear of rejection.
And the fear of rejection is very, very strong in men because we're the ones who generally do the asking and sort of propose the dates and so on.
So you have to have a huge amount of tsunami lust in order to overcome, in a sense, the breakers of the fear of rejection.
And women, of course, enjoy that male attention, and they should.
And again, it's the reason we're all here and we have civilization and so on, but women enjoy it.
But here, look. Evolutionarily speaking, the youthful rose-cheeked bloom of beauty is not supposed to last particularly long.
Why? Because, again, I'm just talking evolutionarily speaking, we'll just talk about in terms of adults.
So a woman is wooed in her teens and then she chooses a man when she becomes an adult, let's say 18.
So she got a couple of years of male attention, and then what happens?
Well, she gets, again, evolutionarily speaking, she gets pregnant, she breastfeeds, she gets tired, she's got a house to run, and so she's not dolled up, right?
I mean, you're supposed to use that, it's like that anglerfish thing, the light that catches the fish deep in the ocean.
Youthful female beauty to gain male attention is only supposed to last as long as it takes to snare a man into a permanent religion and community enforced pair bonding, right?
That's what it's for. So it's not really supposed to last that long, but of course it's a very heady time when a woman is in the full flush of her youthful beauty to have so much male attention she doesn't want to give it up.
She doesn't want to give it up.
And I understand that.
But it's not good, I think, in particular, for women to get these unjust advantages.
Listen, women did not earn male attention.
And male attention is kind of like a curse.
Like, I remember before puberty being able to think of things.
And I remember after puberty being able to think of girls.
For the most part, right?
And so men don't particularly enjoy that transition and women enormously benefit from it in terms of male attention, but it's not supposed to just last and last and last, right?
But it is very tempting to make it one, two, last and last and last and to use that female youthful beauty as a way of pumping your vanity, of feeling hot and special and cool and important and not using it to translate, as is its purpose, into the founding of the next generation, the transmission of cultural values through parenting your children and so on.
You know, women want to stay Hot.
Forever. Of course. Because it's heady and it's exciting.
It must be very cool to be chased in this kind of way.
And I know it gets annoying at times and so on.
But again, the annoyance is interesting as well, right?
So there was this woman who was posting about how, you know, men, all men everywhere, when women are sitting in a bar alone having a drink, we don't want you to approach a sign to all women everywhere.
And that's... Of course, complete nonsense.
I mean, it's just completely made up.
Who would want to sit in a loud bar that's crowded and have a $10 glass of wine when you could have a $0.75 glass of wine at home listening to Roxy music, right?
So it's just weird.
And it's one of these silly things that women say that it's just not true because, you know, nothing says leave me alone than spending two hours on hair, makeup, and outfit than going out to a bar.
And, of course, this doesn't mean that men have the right to just endlessly hit on women and so on, but nonetheless, it's all just kind of silly.
But the reason why it's annoying to women is that, again, your youthful beauty is supposed to get a man real quick, and then it's supposed to be converted into children and being a matriarch and transmitting culture and values and all these kinds of good things.
So there's a lot of interesting sexual politics in here.
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