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The Schumer Shutdown - October 9th, Hour 2
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, later in the program, my interview with President Trump is coming up as something that I don't think most people thought we'd see in our lifetime.
A real chance for a lasting peace in the Middle East.
You know, two years and three days, the remaining hostages will be released, hopefully by Monday, we expect.
Pretty amazing to hear Israelis chanting Nobel Prize for Trump and Gazans chanting Trump's name after the peace deal is announced.
Listen.
Nobel Prize to Trump.
Nobel Prize to Trump.
Hey, Nobel Prize to Trump.
Hey, Nobel Prize to Trump.
Nobel Prize to Trump.
Yeah.
Good job.
Wow.
I mean, Trey Yangst, who's been reporting from Israel for Fox News for years, says he'd never seen that or heard that in his entire career of reporting from the region.
The families of the hostages then also spoke to President Trump after this peace deal was announced.
Here's what they said.
They want to say something.
Is all right?
President Trump, you have the best crowd in the world.
What do you guys have to say to President Trump?
Thank you.
You did it.
You did it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
This is amazing.
Mr. President, we believe in you.
We know you've done so much for us over the past since you became a president and even before that.
And we trust you'll fulfill the mission until every hostage, every 48 of the hostages, are home.
Thank you so much.
Blessed be the peacemakers.
God bless you, Mr. President.
God bless America very much.
You just take care of yourselves.
The hostages will come back.
They're coming all coming back on Monday.
I mean, Beyond Historic, joining us now, Senator James Langford of Oklahoma to discuss this, the Schumer shutdown, and Jack Smith spying on his fellow senators and other congressmen.
Senator, great to have you back.
Your reaction to this, I think there's a, I lay out a lot of reasons I believe that this happened.
What are yours?
Yeah, I have to tell you, Sean, I had one word after President Trump posted last night.
My response was just one word, hallelujah.
I mean, that is such an incredible event.
People have no idea what this opens up the possibilities for, for obviously those families that have their family members have been held by barbarians for the last two years, the people of Gaza who have also been held hostage by Hamas and the children that have an opportunity to be able to grow up and have a future because they're not human shields for Hamas.
But this opens up the opportunities for Saudi Arabia to be able to normalize with Israel, for Indonesia to be able to normalize with Israel, with so many other countries around the world to be able to say that barrier is gone because we were so close in the Abraham Accords to having major breakthrough, which is why Hamas was doing everything they can to stop it.
Maybe the most powerful factor is he means what he says.
And that region of the world certainly understands strength.
And Donald Trump taking out Iran's nuclear facilities and then telling Hamas, take the deal or we will obliterate you, I'm sure had an impact on this.
Yep, no question on that.
For President Trump to be able to step in with the relationships that he had, he was the only president that was able to engage with that level and to pick up the phone, to be able to talk straight with Bibi Netanyahu, his friend, to be able to talk straight with the leadership of Qatar, with the UAE, with Saudi Arabia, with Oman, with others, and to be able to say, here's where we are.
So many of those countries in the region were not willing to take the risk because it's failed so many times.
So they don't want to stick their neck out and say, I'm going to be a part of a deal that failed because Egypt tried to do this.
Jordan tried to engage.
France, I mean, you can go on and on and on.
No one was successful.
And so everyone just backed away and stopped trying until President Trump reached in to be able to negotiate this and to be able to get it done.
And once he stuck his neck out and he started actually getting it done, others started falling in behind.
Let's talk a little bit about where we stand with the Schumer shutdown.
You know, there were a couple of moments.
I want to play Hakeem Jeffries.
He got embarrassed on CNBC this morning and then had a knockdown drag out confrontation with Mike Lawler.
I'll play just a small part of that.
But first, let me play him on CNBC.
There was an election and the Republicans were put in a position where they were able to pass the big, beautiful bill, or you call it the big, ugly bill, to then say, we don't like any of that, so we're going to shut down the government until you take back all the things that you duly passed through legislation.
If Republicans had tried to do that to the Inflation Reduction Act or any of the acts that Biden and that administration have passed, if they said, we're going to shut down the government because we don't like any of those things you did, we're going to not pay our military, we're going to not allow the government to reopen until you do what we want.
After an election where the American people put them in, put Democrats in power, you'd be going crazy.
You'd be going crazy about using a shutdown of the government on a continuing resolution to get what you want just because you don't like what the Republicans did.
It's not how it works.
It's bad.
It's bad precedent.
And it's just clear.
And you're talking about the House.
You've already passed this.
The Senate is who we're talking about.
And they have a bill which will reopen the government right now with five more Democrats.
What is bad precedent is the Republican refusal to engage in bipartisan negotiations.
What is bad precedent is the Republicans embarking on a my way or the highway approach from the very beginning of this Congress.
The my way or the highway approach is them.
They're demanding $1.5 trillion to keep the government open for seven weeks, including funding using taxpayer funding for health care for illegals.
They're never going to get that.
How long does this go on?
Yeah, I don't know how long this goes on.
This is one of those issues where once a war starts, it's hard to stop.
Once a shutdown starts, it's hard to stop on it.
And their irrational demands on it to be able to unwind the one big beautiful bill to be able to give health care to folks that are not American citizens.
They even have, Sean, a section in there that a lot of people aren't talking about.
They have a section where they're demanding electric vehicles get the ability to be able to drive in HOV lanes and new climate initiatives for foreign entities.
I mean, it is like a progressive wish list is their demand to be able to get it, and it's just not rational.
I go back to four times in September that this, the last four Septembers, we had a moment similar to this where we hadn't gotten everything finished on appropriations.
So we did a continuing resolutions.
We disagreed as Republicans strongly where Biden was, but we're not going to cut off military funding as they are to try to demand something.
And so we've been through this four times.
We do know the difference.
But the difference for this one now is Schumer literally came out yesterday and said things are getting better for Democrats every day.
It was like literally as pay is being cut off to the members of the military, to the National Guard that are being deployed, to civilian employees.
He can't get an answer at the IRS because they have so many furloughed folks, all the different things that are happening.
Schumer has to stand at the microphone and smile and say it's getting better for Democrats every day.
Well, it's not better for the American people.
Let me play for you, Chuck Schumer, over the years, because his entire career, he has spoken out against government shutdowns and how bad they are.
Here's what he said.
What if I persuaded my caucus to say I'm going to shut the government down?
I'm going to not pay our bills unless I get my way.
It's a politics of idiocy, of confrontation, of paralysis.
It's sort of like this.
Someone goes into your house, takes your wife and children hostage, and then says, let's negotiate over the price of your house.
You know, we could do the same thing on immigration.
We believe strongly in immigration reform.
We could say we're shutting down the government.
We're not going to raise the debt ceiling until you pass immigration reform.
It would be governmental chaos.
Speaker McCarthy needs to stop letting the MAGA radicals drive his decisions and do the obvious and sensible thing.
Follow the Senate's lead and pass a bipartisan CR to prevent this reckless shutdown.
We do not want to let a Trump temper tantrum govern our policies or cause the shutdown of a government which everyone on both sides of the aisles knows is the wrong idea.
Oh, it looks like the temper tantrum is coming from Chucky himself.
The idiocy, the paralysis, the hostage-taking, the chaos, the recklessness is his.
I think that Chuck Schumer basically is trying to cling on to power, knowing that he really is the leader and name only of the Democratic Party, and he's scared to death that he's going to lose his seat to AOC.
That's my theory.
What's yours?
My theory as well.
He's watching what's happening in New York City and in New York with Mondami and with the extreme far left and the socialists rise there and realize if he's going to stay in power, that's the group that he's got to please.
And so he's doing everything he can to be able to show he's the resistance.
There are some Democrat senators that are now saying, hey, we're actually hurting families.
We've got to figure out how to be able to get out of this.
And Schumer continues to be able to push back and to say, no, we've got to show we're the resistance.
So this is a Schumer shutdown over something that's just not rational.
All Republicans are looking for is just keep the government open at the same level we are right now while we're still negotiating.
That is not partisan.
That is just common sense.
And I want to put emphasis on that.
Republicans, they have a clean CR, meaning you fund government at its current levels as you negotiate out the budgets.
And that's the place and the forum to do it and not to hold people hostage.
Again, $1.5 trillion that they're demanding for seven weeks to keep the government open.
That's never going to happen.
It'll be interesting.
Now, behind the scenes, are you talking to Democrats that understand they boxed themselves in here?
I have, actually, and I continue to be able to do that.
And I'm not the type that goes and shouts and belittles people.
No one ever convinces me when they do that to me.
So I go quietly to be able to visit with folks one-on-one, catch them, and have some conversation, try to see if we can't actually move some people to say, come on now, you know what this is doing to families.
You know what this is doing to so many members of our military.
We've got folks being deployed this weekend through the National Guard that are heading overseas and they're having to say to their families, I don't know if you're going to get paid and I'm on deployment.
That's not right.
We've got to be able to solve this.
And so there are several Democrats that are now saying, yeah, we've got to figure out how to be able to get out of this.
Susan Collins has been terrific on this, by the way, in trying to be able to negotiate on the appropriations level as the head of appropriations to try to move some of our Democrat colleagues on this.
So we're going to keep moving and pushing on this and to see how we can't actually solve this for the American people.
Quick break, right back.
We'll continue more with Oklahoma Senator James Lankford on the other side.
Then we'll get your calls in as well.
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moments with Senator James Lankford of Oklahoma.
Last question, Senator.
A number of your colleagues we now have discovered have been spied on were spied on by Jack Smith.
And I'm going to play for you, Lindsey Graham, who was on my show the other night.
And well, I played him when he was at the hearing, and he was pretty pissed off when talking to the Attorney General.
He wasn't mad at her at all.
I think she was as outraged as he was.
But discovering that he was spied on by Jack Smith, this is what he said.
He announced he's going to run for president in 2022 for the 24 election.
Within eight months, 91 indictments were levied against him coming from New York, Atlanta, Washington, D.C., and Florida.
91 felony charges against Donald Trump.
Here's what I believe.
If he had never announced he was going to run for president, none of this would have happened.
They were trying to destroy his comeback.
This was all orchestrated by Jack Smith, Alvin Bragg, Fannie Willis, Letitia James to destroy this man so he could not win in 2024.
Weaponization, I would argue, was putting cinderblocks on the scale of Donald Trump's chances to win an election.
And in this last cycle, I believe the pre-bunking of Hunter's laptop was a way to try to stop Trump in 2020.
They were successful at suppressing that story.
And then everything that happened with the dirty dossier, FISA applications, double standard of justice, and what happened with, you know, Barack Obama wanting a new Intel assessment because they didn't like the old one that said, oh, there was no Trump-Russia collusion.
Have we had deep state operatives trying to impact presidential elections in the last three cycles?
Absolutely, we have.
We've had folks that are within the military.
I mean, you've talked about it before, Peter Straussyk, others that were within the system that were trying to find ways that they had levers that they could actually use to be able to affect the outcome of the election and to see what they could do to be able to control where the American people are.
The good news is the American people saw right through those 91 indictments, saw right through what was actually happening politically.
And as the information continues to come out, as it says in scripture, those things that are whispered in the secret place will be shouted from the housetops as the information comes out and the truth is exposed on it.
More and more people are seeing, seriously, the FBI was tracking Republican members of Congress and tracking their phone to be able to see what they could actually figure out and how to be able to fish to go through this.
It had reached that level that this bad administration from the Biden administration would determine they're going to use whatever power they have.
And interestingly enough, they kept talking over and over again, we've got to save democracy.
Literally, they were selling out democracy and creating autocracy while they're chanting save democracy.
Well said, Senator Langford of Oklahoma, appreciate your time, Senator.
Keep up the good work.
All right.
So this is what we know.
It's not a whole lot now.
we did learn earlier in the day that lindsey halligan in the eastern district of virginia went in to a grand jury on the issue of latisha james uh we believe it probably has to do with the mortgage issue that we've covered fairly extensively here on this program and whether or not oh it is Okay.
And we're going to get more details in a second.
But anyway, we now have the DOJ has indicted the New York Attorney General.
Anyway, I think there's a whole lot of lawfare that should have been looked into, too.
And, you know, how does somebody run on a platform of get Trump the way she did?
Anyway, Fox News legal analyst, our friend Greg Jarrett, is with us now.
This is big news.
And, you know, she and Adam Schiff seem to have similar problems, don't they?
Yeah, they absolutely do.
And it's mortgage fraud, allegedly.
And the indictment follows this criminal referral from the federal housing finance agency director who cited alleged mortgage application fraud involving properties in Virginia and New York.
In the Virginia property, James is accused of falsely claiming that home as her primary residence to secure better mortgage rates, despite the fact that her official residence is New York.
It must be New York in order to hold the position that she has as the state attorney general.
And in fact, apparently there's a power of attorney document that was signed by James granting her niece authority to execute the purchase and listing the property as James's principal residence.
So, you know, I think having not read the indictment because the news of it just broke, I suspect I have a little bit more news.
Let me pass it on to you.
The Justice Department won an indictment against New York Attorney General Letitia James, accusing her of committing mortgage fraud when she purchased a property in Virginia in 2023.
The indictment on bank fraud makes James II of President Donald Trump's political foes to be charged in the Eastern District of Virginia since President Trump pushed out the top prosecutor, Lindsey Halligan, is now in charge there.
And anyway, Halligan apparently presented this case before the grand jury.
And this is very interesting to me.
Now, I want to go into the law as it relates to people that would make mortgage applications and talk about places being their permanent home, permanent residence.
And this is an issue that has come up as it relates to Adam Schiff because he was claiming two properties and benefiting on his tax forms as it relates to, you know, which properties and getting more favorable mortgage rates because he claimed them as their primary residence.
This is a big deal.
And this, by the way, happens all the time.
These charges are brought all the time.
Yeah, that's true.
Just look at Marilyn Mosby, who was the prosecutor in Baltimore, who ended up getting convicted of doing the exact same thing.
So, you know, I mean, look, the law is very clear.
You cannot have two separate homes, both of which is your principal place of residence.
You can only have one.
But Adam Schiff designated, allegedly, California, as well as, you know, Washington area.
I believe it was Maryland home as his principal place of residence.
You can't do that.
It's against the law.
It's called mortgage fraud.
And, you know, you're cheating on all kinds of, you know, government tax advantages and so forth.
And so, you know, it's about time that prosecutions are brought.
Now, understand that Letitia James is going to make the same claim that James Comey is making in his particular case.
Oh, dismiss the case, Your Honor.
This is vindictive prosecution by Donald Trump and, you know, grand jury abuse and outrageous government conduct and so forth.
You know, they'll say it should be tossed because Trump pressured government lawyers to bring a politically motivated prosecution.
Well, I got news for them.
That doesn't mean under law that a person cannot be criminally prosecuted.
I'll give you an example.
Joe Biden constantly criticized Trump as a threat to democracy, and his dirty fingerprints were all over the double prosecutions brought by special counsel Jack Smith.
And, you know, as the New York Times reported back in 2022, Biden let it be known.
He wanted Trump prosecuted, applied pressure on Attorney General Merrick Garland to get it done, and it got done.
You know, it's a myth that a president cannot tell DOJ lawyers or U.S. attorneys what to do.
I got news for them.
Read Article 2 of the Constitution.
The president holds ultimate authority over all executive branch departments, including the DOJ and their U.S. attorneys.
He can direct decisions as a part of his inherent powers, including prosecutorial decisions.
So if you're going to follow the law, that selective prosecution, vindictive prosecution should not work.
But in Comey's case, he's making a pitch in front of a friendly umpire, a district judge who was appointed to the bench by President Joe Biden, who's DOJ ran interference for Comey.
So this is going to be a tough case, particularly in that district in Virginia, which is dominated by a liberal jury pool that will ultimately make the decision.
It's amazing to me because, you know, it's honestly like if Donald Trump's fit on the sidewalk, they wanted to go after him.
And I really have no sympathy for the likes.
And by the way, we're going to take some of your calls if you want to weigh in on this.
I see my phone's blowing up here.
Finally, I mean, you have somebody that runs on a platform.
She's going to be the Attorney General of the State, Letitia James.
And Letitia James, you know, runs on a platform, get Trump.
Alvin Bragg, get Trump.
You know, what was the case, Letitia James?
Because it's almost the exact same issue she was charging the Trump organization with in a civil case and then getting this ridiculous, unprecedented fine, which they're not going to have to pay, thank God.
And remember, wasn't it that case where they had Ngoran and a valuation of Mar-a-Lago at $18 million when it's a property worth between $1 and $1.5 billion?
And it would take just a minute's perusal of a website like realtor.com or Zillow.com and find out, oh, they undervalued that property and didn't want to know the truth.
Nobody cared that the statute of limitations had run out on Alvin Bragg and in terms of a misdemeanor charge or what would have been a misdemeanor charge for a legal non-disclosure agreement that was labeled a non-disclosure agreement that was paid as a legal expense.
I mean, the degree of weaponization there.
Now, in this case, you have Letitia James.
This is about something that is real and something that is serious, and that's called mortgage fraud.
And for Virginia property, she's claiming as her principal residence.
You can't be a New York's top prosecutor and have a Norfolk, Virginia house as your principal residence.
What do you claim?
That whoopsie-daisy, I made a mistake on my loan application?
Is that what they claim?
Yeah, I mean, that's going to be her defense.
Well, she has a two-part defense.
One, it's a vindictive prosecution.
Dismiss the case, Your Honor.
Number two, if it goes to a jury, it's whoopsie-daisy, as you call it.
It was a pretty good explanation.
Oh, gee, it was a typo or a miscommunication.
Well, under the Letitia James standard, in the case she brought against Trump, she argued and said publicly, it doesn't matter if there's a miscommunication or somebody else did the work for you.
Ultimately, Trump is responsible.
Well, then, you know, she's ultimately responsible in this particular mortgage fraud case.
But, you know, spare me the fake moral outrage over weaponization of the law.
You're right, Sean.
She ran on the campaign promise to get Trump, and now people are upset because Trump wants to get Letitia James.
You know, you can't have it both ways.
Well, I mean, this seems pretty cut and dry.
I mean, either she claimed it as her principal residence while she's the top, you know, while she's the AG in New York, and she claimed the Virginia property was her principal residence, or she didn't.
And if she did, then I don't really think there's a lot of excuses.
But Greg, we appreciate you, man.
You're the best.
Thank you.
My pleasure.
Greg Jarrett, Fox News, legal analyst 800-941-Sean, our number, if you want to be a part of the program.
By the way, we're going to have Peter Navarro and John Solomon on at the top.
What they did to Peter Navarro is unbelievable.
Anyway, Jim is in North Carolina.
Jim, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Hey, Sean, good.
How are you doing?
I'm good, buddy.
Glad you called.
I've been a real estate broker since 1987.
That's almost 40 years.
I've been a certified residential appraiser, been one since 1991.
I'm SHA approved.
What Letitia James did sickens me.
That woman knows exactly what she did, and she needs to go to jail.
I've taken continuing education for the entire time that I've been a broker and an appraiser.
I've also served on an appraisal board in another state.
And maybe the appraisal board and also the real estate board of New York needs to get involved as well.
But that woman needs to go to jail, period.
Well, I will tell you.
My thought.
Look, it was very funny.
There was a time because me and some friends invest in real estate, et cetera, et cetera.
We do it.
I mean, we have lawyers out the Yazoo.
We really do.
And it was funny because we had refinanced some loan, and you know that there are government-backed loans.
I don't even know the process, to be very honest, because that's not my part of the business.
That's not what I do.
And they said, oh, he refinanced, and Donald Trump must have given him favorable treatment.
Turned out we did it during the Obama years.
How funny is that?
Exactly.
I mean, anytime, Sean, as you know, when you have banking and lending involved, it's all now interstate, and those are considered federally related transactions, federally related transactions.
And that's why it's fraud and it's criminal.
She knows exactly what she did.
There's no such thing as the typo.
As you know, underwriters are involved in every single loan that they underwrite.
It's all taken very seriously, and she needs to go to jail.
Well, they knew what her job was.
They knew it couldn't possibly be a principal residence.
Anyway, Jim, really informative call.
Thank you.
Afrat, Texas.
We have about a minute.
It's all yours.
Go for it.
Hi, Mr. Hannity.
I would just like to sincerely thank you from the bottom of our hearts for your support of the Jewish people, the Israeli people.
As an American Jewish Israeli, we can't tell you how much we appreciate your loyalty and honesty and truth.
You've been speaking truth from the beginning and you've never strayed, where some have decided otherwise, but you have always spoken the truth.
And I know sometimes you must feel that you are not being appreciated by us, but please know that everyone that I know supports and loves you for always supporting us.
So thank you very much for all that you've done.
My sincerest prayers go out to the people of Israel.
And if I find there's a lot of ignorance out there and what they've had to withstand, tens and hundreds of thousands of rockets surrounded by enemies, and then October 7th is unbelievable evil in our time.
I have no problem standing for what's right.
Thank you, Afrat.
Appreciate it.
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