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Weaponization Exposed - October 9th, Hour 3
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If you want to join us, we're learning now through our friend John Solomon, who will join us in a minute, and the horror that Peter Navarro, our friend, went through.
As Senator Chuck Rassley said, this may be worse than Watergate.
I'm talking about this Arctic Frost investigation and Jack Smith.
And it is so beyond the pale.
Now we have a full understanding that he was targeting eight U.S. senators and Congresspeople as well.
But Grassley, you know, showed us earlier in this week, two days ago, he shed light on how they handled the arrest of Peter Navarro.
Peter Navarro has been a longtime friend of this program.
He's a good man.
Peter Navarro was held in contempt to Congress, which, by the way, is a misdemeanor.
And because of whistleblowers and John Solomon's reporting, they provided additional records to Chuck Grassley related to the Biden FBI.
And, you know, the most incredible part of this story is Peter Navarro lives next door to FBI headquarters.
So he would have willingly turned himself in.
They were talking to his lawyers, but no.
Instead, they decided to follow him and surveil him and his fiancé all morning, follow him, and then arrest him in public at Reagan Airport.
It's called a perp walk, all over a misdemeanor charge.
He could have just walked next door.
It would have been that simple.
A lot of this information over the last 10 years, we would not have, but for my friend John Solomon.
And he does not get enough credit for all of his, you know, incredible reporting.
He's been a partner with us on radio and TV.
And this is something we have talked about privately for years.
And now it's all beginning to come to light.
And thank God it is John Solomon.
Good to be with you, Sean.
And by the way, I couldn't have done any of it without you every day helping me and getting it out and explaining it to the American public.
So I'm very grateful for everything you've done for me.
Well, I'm going to tell you, so why don't you give your take on the story?
And then we'll go to the personal side in a great article that was written by Peter in a second.
So a couple of years ago, I interviewed an FBI agent.
He'd served for two, three decades, and he said at the very end of his career, he became very disturbed by what he saw in the Comey-Ray era of the FBI.
And he said part of it was bias, going after liberals differently than you went after conservatives.
Liberals got a past.
Conservatives got the hardest path possible.
But the most concerning of all things is he started to see, particularly in the era of Russia collusion to January 6th, that they were creating, making it so that the FBI would make the process the punishment, meaning even if you did something wrong, they were going to put you through a process that was so punishing, it would break you financially, would break you psychologically.
And he said that we made the process the punishment for people we didn't like.
And that disturbed him more than anything.
He saw it as an abuse of power, an abuse of color of government authority.
And so he, when I got this document a couple of days ago, compliments of Cash Patel and Senator Chuck Brashley, it really gave us perhaps the most compelling example to date of what that looks like.
As you mentioned, Peter Navarro is in a dispute between Congress and the old Trump White House.
It's a constitutional issue.
He's decided not to testify to honor President Trump's claims of executive privilege.
The Biden Justice Department and the Democratic Congress decide they want to find him in contempt.
It's a misdemeanor issue.
FBI doesn't even normally make arrests on misdemeanor issues.
They usually just give you a summons and you show up in court.
But in this case, they not only planned to arrest Peter Navarro, they intended to make it the most honorous possible public spectacle they could.
And so they took a surveillance team, a team that you normally say for major spies, for major terrorists, for major drug king penalties.
Yeah, the special ops group.
Yeah, that's it.
They have this group that does this.
And they surveilled him all day on the day they wanted to arrest him to wait for the moment where he was in the most public possible humiliating place so that then they can arrest him and humiliate him in public on a misdemeanor, basically an administrative dispute between Congress and there.
And they do that.
They wait till he gets to the airport.
They arrest him.
They put him in leg irons.
This is a 74-year-old guy.
He ate running off.
Their own form show they knew he was not armed or dangerous, but they went through that process to make sure that the process was the punishment.
Even if he were to be acquitted down the road or found to have done nothing wrong, they will have humiliated him in public with the power and color of government authority.
That's what this document shows.
Senator Grassi said it was a prime example of the politicization of the White House.
And when you look at the document and you look at what happened, you have to ask yourself, why did we, the taxpayers, spend all that money to surveil a man who was willing to turn himself in just so that someone could make a political statement under the color of the FBI authority.
And that is a legacy of the Chris Ray Justice Department.
Everyone focuses on Comey for all the right reasons that you and I chronicled.
But Chris Ray's FBI worked the same way.
He might have had a different personality in congressional hearings.
He might have got a different pass from Republicans in Congress.
But Chris Ray's FBI did the same weaponization, the same politicization that Comey's did.
And when you're all done and said, one of the most important documents I made public in the last three weeks is an after-action report.
And in that after-action report, there are scores of FBI agents, scores, not one or two, scores of agents saying we have become a politically biased agency, that we treat liberals different than conservatives, that we are not following the letter of the law.
We're following the letter of politics.
They use words like we're political pawns, where we have political bias.
We're no longer good in our core competencies because we're more worried about what color mask we wear and what gender we hire than about solving crimes.
It was in real time, FBI agents boiling over and telling Chris Ray's leadership, we got a bias problem, and Chris Ray swept that under the rug.
That document was created in 2021 after the January 6th investigation began.
Four years later, we finally learned about it.
It is an extraordinary document.
When Chris Ray looked at everybody and said, oh, political bias is a MAGA talking point, at that moment, there was a body of evidence that said his own agents knew they had a political bias problem.
That's what the Peter Navarro story is all about.
Peter, you've become a good friend, and I've come to admire you so much.
I went to prison, so you won't have to.
You live right next door to the FBI, right?
I mean, and you even offered to turn yourself in if they were going to come after you.
Is that correct?
Check both boxes.
I was a field goal kicker back in the day.
I did literally kick a field goal from my apartment building and hit the FBI that was that close.
And what's true, by the way, Sean, you are in the dedication of I went to prison so you won't have to because of all the support you gave me over the years.
And I can't thank you enough.
And I should say that I always loved years ago, starting years ago, how you would go through your monologues with breaking down the Russia hoax, like step by step, person by person by person.
And I think, Sean, what's important about what we're learning now about my arrest from these documents is that I am kind of like the thread that weaves over an eight-year period of conspiracy,
don't use that word lightly, through this agent, Walter Giordina, FBI agent Walter Geni, he was the guy who led this crazy takedown of me at the airport, who put me in handcuffs, who put me in leg irons.
But he's also the guy going back, Sean, to 2016 and 2017 who gave the green light to the steel dossier as being legitimate, which begat Crossfire Hurricane, which Giordina was involved in.
He was involved in the Mueller report, Operation Crimson River, which was that crazy Egyptian fake thing, and then Arctic Frost, which you're referencing now.
And I got caught in the middle of Hall Out Wave.
It wasn't just the fact that the process was punishment.
Process was punishment, but I also went to prison.
But, Sean, everybody I served with in the Trump White House in the first term paid a weaponized lawfare price, whether it was hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars in legal fees on one end or imprisonment on the other end and everything in between.
And I'll tell you what, Sean, if I had gotten that document that was just released this week by whistleblowers during my trial, that would have been a game changer.
But the judge, Obama appointee who got his job bundling campaign contributions for Obama and the prosecutors denied me that document and a whole bunch of others, which I think are going to come to light because of the good work of the FBI and folks like Solomon.
And everything about what I went through was weaponization.
Everybody involved, Sean, with my incarceration was a Democrat.
Every single person, whether the Congress, the Attorney General, Matt Graves, the U.S. District Attorney, if you had my prosecutors, a lawyer, and Crab.
And they all have names, Sean.
And the whole point of I went to prison so you won't have to.
That's the tagline from the speech, Sean, that I gave the day, the night of the day I got out of prison.
I walked onto that stage, didn't know what to expect.
I was just so warmed by that reception.
But I went to prison so you won't have to is the warning call.
If we don't hold these people accountable, Sean, they will do it again and again and again.
And that was on full display this week with the Senate judiciary hearing that Grassley held, because when he turned the microphone over to those clowns on the Democrat side of the fence, whether it was Durbin or Schiff or everybody in between, they talked just like they wanted to do it again.
They have learned nothing, nothing.
And so we've got to hold them accountable.
It's Old Testament time, Sean.
And because of all the work you've done over the years, we know their names.
It's not just Comey.
It's Clapper.
It's Brennan.
It's Paige.
It's Strzz.
It's Rosenstein.
It's Schiff.
You just go on down the line.
We've got a problem we've got to solve.
If we don't solve it, Sean, we're going to just keep doing this crazy stuff with the weaponized justice system.
The American people are losing faith in the whole system, sir.
Quick break, right back.
More with Peter Navarro.
You've got to read his book, I Went to Prison So You Don't Have To, Hannity.com, Amazon.com, Bookstores Around the Country.
And John Solomon, editor-in-chief, founder, and chief investigative reporter, justthenews.com.
More on the other side as we continue.
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We'll continue now with John Solomon, JustTheNews.com.
He is the founder, editor-in-chief, and the chief investigative reporter.
And our friend Peter Navarro, I went to prison, so you won't have to.
Unbelievable developments in this story.
What they did, the lengths they went to try and embarrass and humiliate him over a misdemeanor, it is unprecedented and has to stop.
You wrote, sir, that this circus arrest was not an anomaly.
It was a case study in lawfare where the process is the punishment.
They could have, again, you could have walked over.
You're in your 70s, and they're putting you in handcuffs and leg irons over a misdemeanor.
And, oh, it just so happens fake news, CNN cameras just happen to be there like they happen to be at Roger Stone's house at 5 a.m. the morning that they raided his house.
Oh, what a, I'm sure just a coincidence.
Yeah, and let's not forget Jeff Clark, who they banged down the door on, and his poor young, very young children.
Manafort, too.
Good exposed to that.
And Manafort.
And I'll tell you, one of the themes, Sean, of I went to prison, if you look at the cover, it's got my fiancé with me on that stage.
And she actually, the book is largely a diary kept by both myself and Bonnie.
And the lesson there for these weaponized Democrats is that it's not just when you come after me, okay, that's fine.
But when you go after family, loved ones, they wind up doing the time with you.
And Bonnie did the time with me, Sean.
She stood by me, but it was tough.
And these people need to be held accountable for that.
And I understand politics.
And okay, it's a dirty, dirty business.
They went after me.
But when they went after her, they perp walked her, Sean.
They perp walked her.
I mean, you can't do that.
It's unbelievable.
You can't do that.
Well, I'm going to say this, and both of you are going to be on TV tonight.
And you did this out of principle.
You could have pled the fifth, walked out of there, and it would have been done.
But you believe so much in our Constitution and executive privilege.
And unless the president himself waived that and he did not, you are right in terms of the law and the principles of it.
John Solomon, just real quick, Peter mentioned, you know, this one particular arresting agent, but I want to know who made the, who gave the order?
I want to know who knew.
And this would be at the time of Director Ray at that point.
That's correct.
I believe Congress is beginning to put those documents together all the way up the food chain, who was approving, extending, encouraging the carrying out of Arctic Frost.
It's going to certainly lead up to the top of the Washington field office of the FBI.
I think it's going to go much higher.
We hope to see some of those documents transmitted to Congress in the next few weeks.
We really have a lot more to get into.
We're going to finish this conversation tonight on Hannity.
I'm so glad, grateful for both of you.
I appreciate your courage, Peter.
I appreciate your hard-nosed reporting, John.
Thank you both.
Thank you so much, Sean.
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So immediately as the news was breaking, as I was coming on the air last night on Hannity on Fox news, I just texted the president.
I said, wow, I didn't think I'd see this in my lifetime.
I'll be very transparent with what I said.
I really didn't think I'd see this in my lifetime.
And the real possibility of real peace.
I mean, for two years and now, three days, we've had all these hostages, and those that are remaining will be released.
The bodies of those that did not survive will be released to their families as well.
That's obviously very important to them.
And I just said to the president, I said, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.
Any chance you'd call in?
And he said, yes, right away.
And I want to play that interview.
This is right after the deal was announced.
All right, joining us now live on the phone is the president of the United States, Donald J. Trump, Mr. President.
Wow.
If you would have asked me two years ago, yesterday, if this was possible, I would have bet everything I had no.
Congratulations, sir.
Can you give us more of the details?
Well, thank you very much, John.
It's a great honor to be involved in it.
We had some tremendous help, as you know, with everybody from Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner and Marco.
And we had everybody, JD, the whole group was just amazing.
And the military was, as you know, very instrumental in getting this done.
We have a great military with great leadership.
The whole world came together, to be honest.
So many countries that you wouldn't have even thought of.
They came together.
The world has come together around this deal.
And that's something I would say that without that wouldn't happen.
So many countries that you wouldn't have thought of have wired their best wishes and their commitment to do whatever is necessary.
The countries surrounding have all signed.
I mean, they're all signed up.
And it's been really an amazing period of time.
And so great for Israel, so great for Muslims, for the Arab countries, and so great for this country, for the United States of America, and that we could be involved in making a deal like this happen because it was, you know, many years they talked about peace in the Middle East.
This is more than Gaza.
This is peace in the Middle East.
And it's been an incredible thing.
Mr. President, you said in your statement that this is the first phase of the peace plan and that the hostages will be released very soon.
I assume that means both those that are alive and those that are not alive.
And Israel will withdraw the troops to an agreed-upon line.
Can you expand on that and tell us maybe what part two is or a part two or a part three?
Because the idea has to be a lasting peace.
And would that include the security guarantees that Hamas can no longer be armed with weapons that they can fire into Israel?
I was in a city, a border city in Gaza, near Gaza.
They had gotten hit with 10,000 rockets in 10 years.
I was in those terror tunnels.
I think you're going to see all of that disappear.
I think you're going to see people getting along and you'll see Gaza being rebuilt.
We're forming a council that the Council of Peace, we think it's going to be called, and it's going to be very powerful.
And it's going to really, I think to a large extent, it's going to have a lot to do with the whole Gaza situation.
People are going to be taken care of.
It's going to be a different world.
I think really the Middle East came together.
Amazingly, they came together.
You know, they have some countries with extraordinary wealth, and just spending a small portion of that wealth can do so much for that area.
So we'll be involved in it.
But the big thing is hostages are going to be released.
It's probably our time would be probably Monday.
And, you know, they're terribly a terrible situation.
They're deep.
They're deep in the earth, and they're being gotten.
And a lot of things are happening right now.
As we speak, so much is happening to get the hostages freed.
And we think they'll all be coming back on Monday.
So it looks like that's the thing.
And that'll include the bodies of the dead.
And, you know, the parents, the parents that we're I've I talked to so many of them, but the parents are more almost more intent, but equally intent is getting their, in just about all cases, the son, their son's body back than they are as though the young man was alive.
It's just the same intensity.
They want their baby's body back.
That's what one woman said.
I want my baby's body back.
And, you know, the son is 25, 26 years old.
So that's a very big part of it, getting all of the it's about 28.
The number is 28.
We'll be coming back, but unfortunately, dead.
Mr. President, a last question.
And I could ask you a million questions about the Schumer shutdown, about the Antifa roundtable you had today.
You know me, I can keep going, but I won't.
By the end of this term as president, what vision do you have?
What would you like to see Gaza look like?
What will the relationship with Israel and other Middle Eastern countries be like, you know, as this process continues to unfold and as you have convinced these other nations to finally involve themselves?
And then we'll let you go, sir.
Well, Gaza is going to be a peaceful, much safer place.
Obviously, it's been blown to pieces.
And this is just not by Israel.
This is over years and years and years.
It's been heartache for many years.
A lot of people say this is a deal for 3,000 years.
So whether you say 500, because some people say 500 based on events, but other people say this is something historic for 3,000 years.
There's nothing ever going to be bigger than this.
And so Gaza, we believe, is going to be a much safer place, and it's going to be a place that reconstructs.
And other countries in the area will help it reconstruct because they have tremendous amounts of wealth, and they want to see that happen.
And we'll be involved in helping them make it successful and helping it stay peaceful.
But I think it's going to be peaceful.
I think, again, the Iran situation was very important doing what we had to do, which was, again, 22 years it was planned to be done and nobody, no other president wanted to do it or whatever for whatever reason, but they didn't do it.
And having that was very important.
But, you know, I'm very confident there'll be peace in the Middle East.
I mean, the words peace in the Middle East are something people have been striving for for hundreds of years, for centuries, for many centuries.
And we really have.
Every country has come together.
And on a little different scale, but so important.
It seems like everything's at a different scale.
But we're going to make our cities safe.
We're going to make Chicago safe.
We're going to make Memphis, Tennessee.
We're there right now.
We're making it safe.
There's a difference in one week.
It's like day and night.
It's so important what we did in D.C. Washington, D.C., our own capital that people come to, and it was crime-ridden.
And now it's as safe as there is anywhere in the country.
It's safe.
It's clean.
We've cleaned it.
We've gotten rid of the thugs.
We took 1,700, in many cases, career criminals, and in many cases, people coming from other countries that shouldn't have been allowed to come.
Gang members from other countries, jail, people from jails.
The jails were literally opened up in Venezuela and other countries into our country.
And we've gotten them out and we're getting them out.
But we took out 1,700 in Washington, D.C., 1,700 criminals that are no longer there.
And we have a safe, beautiful capital again.
You can go and eat at the restaurants.
The restaurants are booming.
They were closing one after another.
Now they're booming.
They're opening.
And this all took place over the last two months.
It's amazing, actually.
Nobody's ever seen a transformation like they have in Washington, D.C. It's as hot as it can get.
It's beautiful.
It's a beautiful thing to watch.
And to see it be safe with our beautiful buildings, the graffitis off the walls, the tents from all over, thousands of tents in our beautiful parks, our national parks.
The tents are all gone.
Everything is, and it's only going to get better over the next year.
It's going to be, there'll be some rebuilding and some fixing up and some cleaning up.
And people are proud of our capital again.
But the beautiful thing is it's really safe.
You can walk down the middle of the street with your wife.
You can walk down the middle of the street by yourself.
Your family can, and you have no fear.
If you did that, if you said that a year ago, they had almost no chance of making it to the other side of the town.
And so we're very proud of D.C. And it serves as a catalyst, and it serves as really an example of what can be done.
But to do that, you have to bring people in to do it.
You can't have woke police people that aren't suited to be police.
You can't have the kind of problems that we have that you is, I mean, almost in all cases, it's Democrat-run cities.
So you can't do that.
So we're very proud of Washington.
It's a safe place, and everybody should, you want to see some beautiful things in Washington.
You go and you go there right now.
Your biggest problem is going to be you're probably not going to be able to get into a restaurant.
They're packed and they're booming.
Mr. President, I think there's a lot of lessons to learn for how we got to this point tonight.
The proper use of the strength of the United States military played a big role in this happening.
The appropriate use of it as well.
And your willingness, obviously, to invest a lot of political capital and time and energy and resources and networking and, you know, to bring a lot of people to the table.
We pray for the people in the region, and we pray this is a peace that lasts forever.
But this is a great first step.
Mr. President, historic by every measure.
We appreciate you being on with us tonight, sir.
Thank you very much, Sean.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you.
All right.
That was President Trump's initial reaction after announcing this peace deal with Israel.
You know what?
The world's a safer place.
He took out Iran's nuclear sites.
You know what?
The world's a safer place because he established a really good relationships with Arab nations that for decades, even centuries, if you want to know the real history of it, have been unwilling to take part in any solution for peace in places like Gaza.
And the president got it done.
It's also got done because the region is very aware when he says he will obliterate you after taking out Iran's nuclear sites that he means it.
Pretty transformational, consequential, which is what I knew this presidency would be if he got elected.
By the way, that's why it is imperative you start thinking now about how important this midterm is going to be and plan on participating.
I know I'm annoying.
And you know what?
Because all progress will stop.
These radicals in Congress will not allow this president to do anything of substance.
And there'll be more impeachments than you could ever imagine.
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