Bonus: Comey Indicted for Lying under Oath in response to my Questioning plus Sniper Targets Dallas ICE Facility
In this special Bonus episode of Verdict with Ted Cruz, Senator Cruz and Ben Ferguson discuss: James Comey Indicted for Lying to Congress? The episode examines claims that former FBI Director James Comey was indicted on two counts of perjury for allegedly lying under oath to Congress. Cruz and Ferguson break down: Did Comey authorize leaks to the press—and then deny it? How Andrew McCabe’s testimony contradicts Comey’s statements. Why Cruz believes this proves the FBI was politicized and weaponized against Donald Trump. Comey’s public response: political spin or factual defense? Legal angles: statute of limitations, prosecutorial strategy, and chances of conviction. Dallas ICE Facility Shooting: Politically Motivated Violence The conversation shifts to a sniper attack on an ICE facility in Dallas, which Cruz personally visited shortly after the incident. Key points include: Was the attack fueled by anti-ICE rhetoric and left-wing ideology? How this shooting compares to other politically motivated acts of violence. Why Cruz blames Democratic leaders for “demonizing ICE” and escalating tensions. The Bigger Picture Throughout the episode, Cruz and Ferguson connect these events to a broader narrative of political weaponization, left-wing hypocrisy, and anti-Trump bias—arguing that inflammatory rhetoric has real-world consequences. Listen now for an unfiltered discussion on James Comey’s indictment, FBI corruption, political violence, and the fight to protect law enforcement. Please Hit Subscribe to this podcast Right Now. Also Please Subscribe to the 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson and The Ben Ferguson Show Podcast Wherever You get You're Podcasts. And don't forget to follow the show on Social Media so you never miss a moment! Thanks for Listening YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@VerdictwithTedCruz/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/verdictwithtedcruz X: https://x.com/tedcruz X: https://x.com/benfergusonshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
Nice to have you with us wherever you are around the country, especially if you're listening on radio right now as well.
We've got a packed show, and uh, Senator, I don't even know if you thought that it was going to be all about you with the James Comey indictment.
He has been indicted for alleged false statements, obstruction of congressional proceedings.
This is obviously uh, as you would say, a big damn deal.
And the clip of you talking to James Comey is what everyone's playing on TV right now.
Well, Ben, it's a momentous day.
The former director of the FBI, James Comey has been indicted on two counts of lying to Congress under oath.
Uh, and and lying to Congress under oath, to be clear in response to questioning from me in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Uh the grand jury has indicted him.
He's facing prosecution, and we are seeing the media losing their minds.
The media is is letting out a primal scream of horror.
The Democrats are horrified.
We're gonna break down exactly why James Comey has been indicted.
We're gonna give you the factual predicate.
We're gonna give you the legal predicate, and and I will tell you, James Comey is defending himself, and he's defending himself as a partisan, as someone who hates Donald Trump.
He is defending himself as if he were Chuck Schumer or Nancy Pelosi, rather than actually addressing the facts that I believe demonstrated he committed deliberately committed felonies when he testified and falsely testified under oath to you to the United States Senate.
We're gonna give you all those details.
We're also gonna talk about the tragic shooting that happened when a deranged sniper targeted an ice facility in Dallas, Texas.
Uh I was on the ground there moments after the shooting occurred.
This is yet the latest instance of politically motivated violence and violence directed against iCE agents and CBP and law enforcement.
This is getting worse and worse, and this must stop.
We're gonna talk tell you exactly what happened and give you all the facts.
Yeah, it's certainly a very, very, very big story.
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So, Senator, I want to start with this clip, and I I think this is a great starting point for this indictment of the former FBI director, James Comey.
This is you questioning Comey back in September of 2020.
Uh, this is the back and forth between the two of you, everyone listening.
This is really an important part of history now and gonna probably be an important part of this case.
Another topic.
On May 3rd, 2017, in this committee, Chairman Grassley asked you point blank, quote, have you ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation or the Clinton admittion?
You responded under oath, quote, never.
He then asked you, quote, have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton administration?
You responded again under oath, no.
Now, as you know, Mr. McCabe, who works for you, has publicly and repeatedly stated that he leaked information to the Wall Street Journal and that you were a directly aware of it and that you directly authorized it.
Now, what Mr. Kit McCabe is saying and what you testified to this committee cannot both be true.
One or the other is false.
Who's telling the truth?
I can only speak to my testimony.
I stand by what uh the testimony you summarized that I gave in May of 2017.
So your testimony is you've never authorized anyone to leak.
And Mr. McCabe, when he, if he says contrary, is not telling the truth.
Is that correct?
Again, I'm not going to characterize Andy's testimony, but mine is the same today.
All right, I'm going to make a final point because my time has expired.
This investigation of the president was corrupt.
The FBI and the Department of Justice were politicized and weaponized.
And in my opinion, there are only two possibilities.
That you were deliberately corrupt or woefully incompetent.
And I don't believe you were incompetent.
This has done severe damage to the professionals and the honorable men and women at the FBI because law enforcement should not be used as a political weapon.
All right.
So you listen to that, and then you look at the indictment.
Count one, false statement to the U.S. Senate that he had not, quote, authorized someone else of the FBI to be an anonymous news source.
Count two, Comey obstructed the Senate Judiciary Committee's investigation through his quote, false and misleading statements.
That is a big smoking gun.
Well, it is.
It's the basis of the indictment, and this will be the central focus of the trial.
Now, James Comey put out a statement tonight on Instagram, and his statement is striking in that is a political statement.
It is not a statement about the facts of the law.
So give a listen to what James Comey said this evening in response to the indictment.
My family and I have known for years that there are costs to standing up to Donald Trump.
But we couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way.
We will not live on our knees.
And you shouldn't either.
Somebody that I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool of a tyrant.
And she's right.
But I'm not afraid.
And I hope you're not either.
I hope instead you are engaged, you are paying attention, and you will vote like your beloved country does.
Depends upon it, which it does.
My heart is broken for the Department of Justice, but I have great confidence in the federal judicial system, and I'm innocent.
So let's have a trial.
I I love how he is a um victim there and acting like he's above all of this.
But Senator, let's just go back to 330 of 23.
James Comey tweeted out, quote, it's been a good day.
That is how he reacted to Trump being indicted in the Alvin Bragg hush money case.
So to act like he's some sort of guy that's above all this, look at his own words.
Well, his statement he put out in response to this, but that could have been given by Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi or Keem Jeffries or any other political Democrat.
And in fact, he he he makes a call, come out and vote.
It's a get out the vote message.
Uh this is a former director of the FBI, but to give you a sense of just how much he loathes Donald Trump.
This is a former director of the FBI who tweeted out to the world a picture of Shells spelling out 8647, in other words, slang for kill the current president of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
Uh, to say calling for the murder of the sitting president is not appropriate for the former FBI director.
In an ordinary time, that would be such an obvious statement that no one would would even think to say it.
But but that's just how much James Comey loathes Donald Trump.
And understand when Trump became president the first time in January of 2017, President Trump unfortunately made a serious mistake, which is he left James Comey in office.
In hindsight, on January 20th, 2017, President Trump should have called James Comey and said, Thank you for your service to the nation.
Your services are no longer required.
I am certain President Trump wishes he had done that.
I think the White House team believed that that Comey could focus on law enforcement, could not be politicized.
And that that assumption proved to be in error.
James Comey presided over weaponizing and politicizing the FBI.
He was part of weaponizing and politicizing the Department of Justice.
And it was because they hated Donald Trump, and frankly, they were angry at the American people for electing him in 2016.
And so the FBI set out to try to attack and to try to ultimately remove from office the President of the United States.
Now, again, this should this should not bear saying, but it is not the job of law enforcement to determine the will of the voters is wrong and the elected president should no longer be president.
But that's what Comey presided over.
And so when I listened to him say I weep for the Department of Justice, it it really is, you know, there's a Yiddish word chutzpah.
And I gotta say, James Comey really ought to have a t-shirt with that printed on it because he is grieving for the Department of Justice.
Why?
Because he has been indicted for what I think is clearly a felony, and then we're gonna break down in just minutes why exactly this is a felony, what the crime is, and and I want to point out nowhere in his statement does Comey get into the actual facts.
Nowhere in the statement does he get into what he did.
No one in this nowhere in the statement does he get into the law.
He just gives a political statement.
He will not be on his knees.
He calls Trump a tyrant who is ruling by fear.
Look, this is an indictment that was returned by a grand jury in the Commonwealth of Virginia, and it was returned be because of I believe clear evidence demonstrating Comey committed felonies.
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Senator, I want to bring up a point that no one in the media has brought up so far about this indictment.
And I brought it up on CNN, and they were like all deer in headlights.
There is something about this case, and they were saying, Oh, this is just political retribution by Donald Trump, uh, that that clearly they weren't going to bring this case.
He had to fire the person in charge of this office in Virginia, had to put in somebody that would weaponize the DOJ.
Here's a fact that most people don't know.
James Comey's own son-in-law was literally inside the prosecutor's office that was tasked just think about this, with indicting his father-in-law.
And so when you sit there and I look at this, I'm like, man, the deep state got together to protect James Comey at all costs.
And as soon as the indictment came out later in the day, James Comey's son-in-law then gave his resignation letter because I guess he just couldn't stop what was inevitable.
Well, and uh, look, I think what should govern this case uh is the facts and the law.
And I believe James Comey should have been indicted five years ago.
And indeed, I called upon him to be indicted five years ago.
So let me lay out the facts.
And in December of 2020.
So the questioning that we played uh in the first segment was for September 30th of 2020.
And by the way, the reason the indictment was brought right now is the statute of limitations was going to run next week, and so they had to bring it before the end of the statute of limitations, or they would not be able to charge him.
But in this on December 10th of 2020, here's the letter that I sent to Bill Barr, then the Attorney General of the United States, and Christopher Ray, who was then the director of the FBI.
Days before the presidential election in 2016, a Wall Street Journal article quoted an anonymous source confirming the existence of a probe into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server while serving as Secretary of State.
An investigation that up to that point, Mr. Comey and the FBI declined to confirm.
We now know that this leak was authorized by then deputy director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe.
Mr. McCabe initially told FBI agents under oath that he did not authorize the leak, and he did not know who did.
But when confronted later with contrary evidence, he confessed both to knowing about and authorizing the leak.
We do not know, however, whether and to what extent, then FBI Director Comey was aware of and authorized this leak after the fact.
Mr. McCabe has repeatedly stated that Mr. Comey knew of and effectively authorized the leak by approving it.
He told the Office of Inspector General that, quote, he and Comey discussed the October 30th Wall Street Journal article in person on October 31st, 2016.
And that and that at that meeting, quote, he told Comey that he had authorized AD slash OPA and special counsel to disclose the account of the August 12th call, and did not say anything in any way to suggest that it was unauthorized.
According to Mr. McCabe, Mr. Comey, quote, did not react negatively, just kind of accepted it, and quote, thought it was a good idea that they presented this information to the media.
He again reiterated Mr. Comey's involvement at a hearing last month at the Senate Judiciary Committee.
I asked Mr. McCabe, according to the Washington Times, April 18th, 2018.
Mr. McCabe insisted that he told his boss that he had authorized disclosure about the Clinton investigation.
But Mr. Comey has denied this claim.
And Mr. McCabe told investigators that Mr. Comey knew he had authorized disclosure and agreed it was a good idea.
Is that your testimony to this committee?
Mr. McCabe replied, that is my recollection.
Mr. Comey, however, has sworn under oath that he has neither authorized the leak nor knew of Mr. McCabe's involvement.
At a May 2017 hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Senator Grassley asked Mr. Comey, have you ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation?
Mr. Comey replied, never.
Senator Grassley then asked, have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton administration?
He testified, no.
And this October at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing.
Mr. Comey testified in response to my questioning, quote, I stand by the testimony that you summarized that I gave in May of 2017.
Mr. Comey's denial in front of the Senate is consistent with his statement to the OIG.
He told the OIG that, quote, he recalled seeing this article, but he did not know how the disclosure about the payday call in the October 30th article happened.
He said that he was, quote, very concerned about that part of the article.
Comey told OIG he considered the disclosure about the payday's call problematic because it related to sensitive FBI information.
The OIG report continues, quote, according to Comey, he discussed the issue with McCabe after the article was published.
And at the time, McCabe, quote, definitely did not tell me that he authorized the disclosure of the payday call.
Comey said that McCabe gave him the exact opposite impression.
Mr. Comey asserted that he took from whatever communication they had that Mr. McCabe wasn't involved in the leak.
And here's what's critical.
Mr. Comey and Mr. McCabe's statements are irreconcilably contradictory.
Mr. McCabe says that he told Mr. Comey of the leak and that Mr. Comey approved, effectively authorizing the leak after the fact.
Mr. Comey, on the other hand, has said that he neither authorized the leak nor knew of Mr. McCabe's involvement.
One of them is lying under oath, a federal crime.
18 USC Section 1621.
The American people deserve to know who.
Those are the facts.
And it is a simple binary choice.
Either James Comey lied under oath and committed a felony, or Andrew McCabe lied under oath or committed a felony, because what they said is precisely opposite.
There is not a world in which neither of them committed a felony.
And the only choice is which one broke the law.
By bringing this indictment, obviously the Department of Justice has determined it was James Comey who lied under oath and broke the law, and that's what the trial will be all about.
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They're like, hey, Donald Trump weighed in on this too much.
They're going to get this thing kicked out before it even goes to a judge.
This is a a waste of the American taxpayers' dollars.
And then if that's not enough, they say, well, no one ever gets indicted and they actually go forward and get a conviction on someone lying to Congress, because well, a lot of people lie to Congress, and even if he did lie, it may have been a mistake.
Break down how this could roll out in court, what could happen.
Well, at the end of the day, the factual predicate behind this this crime is not terribly complicated.
As I mentioned, there's a direct contradiction between James Comey's testimony under oath before the Senate and Andrew McCabe's testimony under oath before the Senate.
They cannot both be true.
One or the other is deliberately lying.
And and how do we know which one is likely to be lying?
Well, the FBI, in all likelihood, possesses the information that confirms who's telling the truth and who's lying.
Indeed, if you look at the account of what occurred, McCabe initially told the same lie that Comey did.
McCabe initially said he didn't leak the information.
Yeah.
He didn't authorize it, and he didn't know who did.
But then the FBI Office of Inspector General confronted him with contrary evidence.
I don't know what the contrary evidence is, but they put in front of him, Mr. McCabe, you said you didn't leak this information.
Well, boom, here's the evidence to the contrary.
And what did McCabe do?
Oh crap, you got me.
Okay, you're right.
I leaked it.
I'm the one who did it.
And I talked to Comey about it.
I told him about it.
So he admitted that when he was caught in a lie.
I don't know specifically what confirming evidence the FBI and the Department of Justice has, but they have enough that they caused McCabe to reverse his first lie and instead to say, yes, he did it, and Comey knew about it.
And so between the two, you know, it was interesting.
When I was questioning Comey, he said a couple of times, well, I I'm not going to characterize, as he put it, Andy's testimony.
Well, I get politically that's a smart move not to characterize Andy's testimony.
But you know what?
His entire legal defense is going to be McCabe is lying.
Because he doesn't have an alternative.
That's that's his only argument, is when McCabe said under oath.
Good point that I knew about it.
Comey's defense team is going to have to say McCabe was lying.
And by the way, McCabe is going to be the star witness at the prosecution.
The prosecution is going to put Andy McCabe on the stand.
And he's going to ask them, did you leak it?
Now, I'm going to predict Andy McCabe is going to say yes.
Did you talk to James Comey about it?
Yes.
Did he authorize it?
Yes.
And the reason I'm going to predict he's going to do all of that is because Andy McCabe testified to that in front of Congress.
And if he gives any other answer, he'll be indicted for lying to Congress.
So he he can't have it both ways.
And I expect that Comey's lawyer will try to cross-examine him and will try to argue McCabe is lying.
But it's very difficult to see why McCabe would have any incentive to lie.
He and Comey were thick as thieves.
Yeah.
He he was only forced to admit the truth when confronted with contrary evidence.
Again, we don't know what that evidence is, but presumably the FBI and the Department of Justice do.
So I don't know if it is contemporaneous phone calls, perhaps with the reporters.
I don't know if it is notes.
I don't know if it's emails.
I don't know if it's testimony from someone else at the FBI who said, hey, Andrew McCabe told me to do this, but it is something, and it was something that was compelling enough that it caused Andrew McCabe to abandon lie number one.
And and and so at the end of the day, this this is not a complicated factual case.
This is not some grand tapestry.
It's a he sheds he said she said, but you have both testimonies under oath, and it's going to be a question of what additional evidence is there to confirm who's telling the truth and who's not.
I also think I will I will be surprised if James Comey's lawyer puts him on the stand.
Uh now, under our justice system, you the prosecution cannot force a defendant to testify.
And but I'm going to predict James Comey is not going to take the stand.
Uh, because if he takes the stand, uh, he can be cross-examined.
He does not want to be cross-examined because this is someone who presided over weaponizing the Department of Justice with the objective of taking out Donald J. Trump and getting under oath, getting cross-examined by a skilled trial attorney, and again, under oath, by the way, if he lies in his trial testimony, he can be indicted and prosecuted again for lying under oath again.
I I don't think his lawyer will do that.
And and and so at the end of the day, look, the press is going to go on and on and say, well, Trump hates James Comey.
That is certainly true.
But being hated by the president is not enough to exonerate you from criminal conduct.
And in this instance, I I believe Comey should have been indicted five years ago because it was clear he had deliberately lied to Congress.
And look, we started by playing my cross-examination.
This wasn't uh an absent-minded lie.
This wasn't uh, oh, I'm not paying attention.
This was careful, this was deliberate, this was strategic, this was planned.
I believe this was James Comey saying, I face no accountability whatsoever, I can lie under oath, and no one's gonna hold me to account.
And I think he feels he feels clever, and but he also feels vindicated.
Listen, James Comey was someone who I think fancied himself as J. Edgar Hoover.
He fancied himself as an incredibly powerful director of the FBI, empowered to remove the tyrant.
That's what he said in his statement uh tonight that he thinks Trump is a tyrant.
And I think when the American people elected him in 2016, I think Comey was angry, and he decided he would use the power of the FBI to remove the president elected by the people.
Uh and and so I think it is quite fitting that he is facing accountability for committing criminal conduct.
Let me repeat.
This indictment is not for being an opponent of Donald Trump.
It is not for being a political uh political figure on the other side of Donald Trump.
This indictment is for deliberately and knowingly lying under oath to the United States Senate, which is a clear and unmistakable felony.
And and and I think uh I I think Come Comey, I think the odds are good that Comey will be convicted.
And I I think if he's convicted, I think he's gonna serve jail time.
How how much of and very quickly of his past will come back to haunt him?
He is a prolific um guy when it comes to leaking.
He's a pro at it, he's on amateurs, he knows how to leak.
Hell, he leaked information that was apparently classified to make sure that there was a a um special counsel that went after Donald Trump.
We know that for a fact, and it went to uh one of his former law friends at a university that then went to a newspaper.
That is a fact.
Will that come up?
And then the other question I have for you quickly is this will the testimony that he gave before Congress be used in court, or literally will senators that interviewed him, would you guys go to court, or would they just use the testimony video?
Yeah, I think they would use the testimony, they would read or play the testimony.
I I don't think you're gonna see uh senators testifying, and and the record is clear and objective, and so so everyone knows exactly what his testimony was.
Um in terms of his past pattern, I think it could certainly come in.
The the prosecution might try to bring it in to establish a pattern.
That would be difficult, but but I think if Comey's lawyer argues, well, he couldn't possibly have approved this, he never would have approved a leak, then I think the prosecution would be able to get all of that in as as rebuttal uh to the defendant's argument.
So I think it's more likely to come in as rebuttal evidence than than directly proving a pattern.
But but my guess is uh one way or another that evidence is gonna come in, and you're right, there's a clear pattern.
Comey has a long pattern of relying on media leaks to advance his own personal agenda.
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They've undermined them, they've demonized them, and we are watching attack after attack happen against ICE agents.
It's horrific.
Yeah, I was in Dallas uh this week for for a series of unrelated meetings, and and the news broke that this deranged gunman had opened fire on an ice facility in Dallas, that he had gone onto a rooftop emulating Charlie Kirk's assassin and with a bolt action rifle, fired multiple rounds, ended up killing two people, severely injuring a third, and then he took the gun to himself and took his own life.
And and it was horrific when the news broke.
I I canceled my morning meeting and just drove over to the ICE facility that morning.
Uh, was there was there shortly after the shooting had occurred.
And and this has happened far too often.
Uh here's what I had to say uh at the press conference that was ongoing when I arrived at the facility.
This needs to stop.
Violence is wrong.
Politically motivated violence is wrong.
It was two weeks ago today that we saw a political assassination in Utah that tore the heart out of much of this country.
This is the third shooting in Texas directed at ICE or CBP.
This must stop.
To every politician who is using rhetoric, demonizing ice and demonizing CBP, stop.
To every politician demanding that ICE agents be doxed and calling for people to go after their families, stop.
This has very real consequences.
Look, in America, we disagree, that's fine, that's the democratic process, but your political opponents are not Nazis.
We need to learn to work together without demonizing each other, without attacking each other.
And I want to say thank you.
I want to say thank you to the brave men and women of law enforcement.
I want to say thank you to the brave men and women of ICE and CBP and everyone who puts their lives on the line to keep us safe.
The divisive rhetoric tragically has real consequences.
I hope that every one of us will pray.
Number one, for the safety of law enforcement that are risking their lives to keep us safe.
Number two, for the health of those who were shot and injured today.
We still don't know the full details of who was injured, but for the families also of the victims of this shooting.
Violence has no place.
It is wrong.
And we should come together if we want to have a debate about immigration policies.
We can do so in the halls of Congress without demonizing each other, and especially without demonizing the men and women who every day put on a badge and go risk their lives to keep us safe.
And we should not be putting language out there that inspires madmen to commit evil crimes.
Our prayers are with the men and women of law enforcement, and we ought to come together and have some decency across the political aisle to say this violence is wrong and it needs to stop.
We know, Senator, a lot about this gunman.
We know that he was uh Googling the shooting of our friend whose funeral we just went to, Charlie Kirk.
We know that he was uh looking at the app uh that they put out there and these websites where you can track ice agents doxing where they are.
That is an app designed to encourage violence against ice agents and law enforcement, and whether it's Gavin Newsom or Akeem Jeffries or any any other Democrat who is encouraging this targeting uh of ICE agents, it is fundamentally wrong, and that they need to stand up and stop it.
You know, I will say this shooter it's the the news has since come out.
This shooter, his mother was was a hard leftist who actually had been vocally critical of me and and other Texas Republicans for not embracing gun control.
And in fact, in May of 2022, she posted the following.
Governor Abbott, Senator Corny, and Senator Cruz, how does it feel that your action to open up gun laws is responsible for the killing of 21 more people?
Do you secretly sit in front of a TV and smile with a demented smile?
You must be proud of all the money that sits in your bank accounts from the gun lobby support.
Was it worth it, Governor Abbott?
How about you, Senators?
When you prioritize money over people, this is what you get.
And I I will say the irony is rich that this leftist mom who who was championing gun control, now her son has committed a mass murder uh as a sniper.
It is tragic, and and it is a consequence of extreme rhetoric, extreme ideology that is poisoning the minds uh uh uh of those who who are driven to violence.
And and I will say this this assassin wrote on his shell casings, anti-ICE, very much emulating what Charlie Kirk's murderer did, writing pro-Antifa and and pro-transgender propaganda on his shell casings.
And we need to stop this violence, regardless of uh of where your politics are, but we need to stop the rhetoric that is fueling this violence.
And there's a lot of Democrat politicians engaging in this rhetoric, no matter how many lives are lost.
And I want to be clear.
I am not calling them Nazis.
I I am absolutely opposing any any violence or calls to violence.
I'm calling on them to tone down their rhetoric and stop demonizing their opponent, stop demonizing ICE, stop demonizing law enforcement, because it's dangerous and and and tragically, lunatics are acting on the rhetoric they're hearing from these politicians.
No doubt about it.
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