Nutrition and Health Reform - September 25th, Hour 3
Today on The Sean Hannity Show, Dr. Ben Carson joined Sean fresh off being sworn in as USDA's National Advisor for Nutrition, Health, and Housing, a major move in federal nutrition policy. Sean framed Carson as an unusually principled and compassionate public servant, highlighting Carson's ongoing commitment to health education and wellness. They discussed Carson's collaboration with figures like Dr. Oz and RFK Jr., the U.S.'s struggles with food quality, and why reforming nutritional standards matters, especially for impoverished communities. Carson's approach is pragmatic: learn from global best practices, focus on food quality from soil to plate, and make nutritious foods accessible, a plan that could impact life expectancy and national health outcomes for years to come.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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If you want to be a part of the uh program, uh it's always an honor, a privilege, and a pleasure to have back on the program our friend Dr. Ben Carson.
He's actually filled in on the show.
I filled in once with his wife.
Um I think one of the best conversations I ever had with Ben Carson and I and I meant this in every complimentary way.
And I had done an event with him, did an interview with him, and he had been running for president, and I I said to him, You are too nice a person.
You're too good a person to ever, you know, be able to run for president.
And I meant every word of it.
Um because he is one of the nicest people you'll ever meet in life.
He was sworn in today as the USDA's national advisor for nutrition, health and housing.
Um he was also very close with our dear friend Charlie Kirk and just awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Uh and uh Dr. Carson, it's an honor to have you.
Congratulations on your new position.
I don't know if you remember that conversation.
I we I honestly meant it in the most complimentary way as somebody that has done this now for decades.
No, uh always good to be with you, Sean.
Many people have told me that I'm too nice, and they're probably you need a certain edge, you know, to that swamp, that sewer that is Washington, DC.
You really do.
Um I love good I love the fact that you're serving again.
I love that your relationship with President Trump has always remained strong.
Um I love that, you know, even during COVID, your voice of reason.
Uh, you know, you weren't telling people what they should do.
You were telling them to be smart, take it seriously, consult with their doctors and and make informed decisions.
Um, which I think is good advice for everybody.
Everybody can you believe everybody wanted me to tell them what to do regarding whether or not they should get vaccinated.
I'm like, I'm not a doctor, and I'm not gonna play one on radio or TV.
I said, take it seriously.
I don't know anything about your, you know, comorbidities or pre existing conditions or your current medical condition.
I know nothing.
I'm I'm not uh qualified to tell you.
And people were insisting I tell them.
I'm like, I'm not.
You would you were doing a better job than some of the people who have degrees in the area because they didn't mix common sense in it, and that counts for a lot.
It really does.
All right, tell us about your new position.
Obviously, you'll be working closely with uh Dr. Oz and with uh RFK Jr.
And obviously health now is in the forefront.
The Maha movement is really is very real in this country.
And with uh Brooke Rollins, you know.
We really need to be looking at the conception of where does our food come from?
Uh from the soil to the plate.
And uh, you know, we're really suffering in our country from poor nutrition, which is really strange to say in a rich country like we have.
But we're like that person that you knew who was young and fit.
And then you see them many years later, and they're just a total slab because they just haven't been paying attention and that's what's happened to us.
And our um expect life expectancy is actually going down over the last few years and in many other countries it's going up.
But they don't use a lot of the artificial things that we use in our food.
I have a very good friend who has diabetes or I should say had diabetes.
He moved uh to uh Europe two months ago and his diabetes is gone.
So uh it has a lot to do with what we're putting in and how we're uh living our lives.
I used to always say if everybody ate three well balanced meals a day, drank six to eight glasses of water, exercised regularly, got s good sleep and didn't put harmful things in their bodies, most people in medicine would be out of a job.
Having said that, they got nothing to worry about, but people aren't gonna do it, but we have to do our best to convince them and to make available, particularly to people who live in some impoverished areas, we have to make available to them nutritious foods and we're removing from the SNAP program a lot of non nutritious foods and replacing them with more than twice as many as there were before.
You know, I was really shocked.
I've gotten to know people like Gillian Michaels who I absolutely love and and guys like Gary Brecker who I love and I've had conversations, long conversations with RFK Jr and with with Dr. Oz and yourself what is amazing to me,
one of the things I think it was Julia Michaels who told me first is Europe will not import they hadn't been importing American produce or American beef and there are two major issues pesticides and hormones.
And the same with poultry and they and I've had I I've all my friends that have ever been to Europe and I've been there myself and have ever tried the food there.
It's amazing.
I can eat pizza and pasta which I never eat here.
I d I'm pretty much very keto friendly meat, eggs and fish and that's it for me.
And I I really avoid sugar like the plague and I work out like a madman and I try to be in the best health.
Nicotine probably's not is probably my dumbest thing that I do but I I kinda need it.
I can't explain it but I do.
Caffeine I do like my coffee I'll have a couple of cups a day.
But um but I'm working on it.
Again I have j people like Jillian all over me about it.
But you know what is that tell you that Europe's food is cleaner.
What does it mean?
Why is that why can't we do what they're doing?
Why do men in Japan live ten years longer than men in America?
They've paid much closer attention and they have not allowed the almighty dollar to dictate the decisions that they make.
You know I was uh very pleased to see a few weeks ago the Kellogg Company come to the table and say, you know, we're ready to talk about this.
Uh we don't need to put these artificial colorings in that are petroleum based and several other companies are also willing to do that.
So I think they've known all along that this was a problem and I'm sure there were people in those companies who were concerned about it but they didn't feel that they would have the backup if they uh became the the whistleblower.
So now a lot more people are feeling comfortable about it and I think we're gonna make very rapid progress as a result of that.
Yeah.
Tell me a little bit more specifically about the work you're going to be doing now that you've got this appointment.
Well, obviously, we're going to be utilizing our many nutritional experts across the board, getting recommendations from them.
But also looking at things that we're putting into the soil, things that we're putting on growing fruits and vegetables.
And looking at ways that we can accomplish what they wanted to accomplish with those things, but do it in a safer way.
way and that's that's where the rubber meets the road and also Looking at how can we bring the prices now?
You know, look at the prices of beef, ground beef and things like that.
Uh are there some things that we could be doing that they're doing in other parts of the world that seem to be effective.
And one of the things that I believe in is not reinventing the wheel.
If if there's some place that is doing something better than us, I don't say let's we're Americans, we can do it better.
Let's see what they're doing.
And uh don't reinvent the wheel, but maybe add to the will, make it even better.
We're very excited for you.
We're glad you're there.
You're with a great team.
Um I think every American needs to think about longevity, health, wellness, fitness, nutrition.
Um and do the best you can.
Let me ask you one last question.
A lot of people are on these weight loss medications, wagovy, wagovey, whatever you call it, and uh Zempic, and I guess there's a bunch of other ones, and I think they're about to come out with a pill form of one.
Um I know friends that have been on it.
I know people that have lost a hundred pounds because of these medications.
Um you can't convince me, especially I everything I read about it is it's quote, heart healthy, etcetera.
Are these medications good for people?
Well, you know, the long term studies have yet to be done.
I guess we'll find out in the long run.
But the problem is uh you have to keep taking them, and they're not exactly cheap.
And if you really want to have a permanent lasting effect uh, you know, import some discipline into your life.
You know, don't just eat everything.
And don't just eat everything.
That's my that's the story of my life, Dr. Carson.
I can't eat what I want.
I mean, if I could, I'd be eating, you know, I wouldn't stop eating.
Well, you hear people saying I don't eat that much.
I have a gland problem.
They do have a gland problem, it's a salad gland because uh We we all like to eat.
You know what I know what I've gotten into the habit of doing I'm eating I eat sunflower seeds just to kinda take away the craving.
Is that a good idea?
Sunflower seeds are good.
Absolutely.
There I get an A+.
And it's not going to put a lot of weight on me either.
And it just keeps my mouth moving.
I don't know.
I just have to be doing something at all times.
Well, your mouth is moving anyway, but it moves in a good way, so we appreciate it.
That's why we love you.
Dr. Ben Carson, we appreciate you more than you know.
Thank you, my friend.
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Rhode Island.
Uh we have Tom standing by.
Tom, where in Rhode Island are you, sir?
Well, right now I'm the middle town, but I've uh I live in Cranston.
I know you lived in Walker before, um and I you asked me about the uh the Black Pearl.
I've been there at the Greg Restaurant and um Did you have the chatter?
Did you have the the best New England clam shouter ever made?
No, you know, I don't not even close.
Chowder guy.
Not a chowder guy, Sean, but uh I'm a long time listener.
This is my third time talking to you.
Most recent time I spoke with you was on April 7th, and my wife and I are on our way to Europe and I called you from the Newark International Airport.
And I think you remember talking to me because I told you the reason the Republicans won the Senate, the House and the White House was because God never sleeps.
God isn't sleeping.
Every time they uh they do something bizarre, he he takes that into consideration.
But the main reason I I wanted to talk to you today is about Gavin Newsom.
I'm gonna talk to you about how incompetent he is.
Now, can you uh correct me if I'm wrong?
Didn't you hold the debate with Governor DeSantis of Florida and Governor Newsom two summers ago, I believe?
Uh I did, and prior to that I flew out to California and had an interview with Gavin that went on for an hour.
And he's slick, but you know, his statistics, which we have laid out in detail considering he's had been attacking me publicly.
I'm not gonna take that crap from anybody.
I'll fight back verbally, obviously.
And uh I'll I just you know how do you explain not having water and fire hydrants?
How do you explain empty reservoirs?
But the main point I'm trying to drill home here was I believe you asked him on a scale of one to ten, how good of a job you think Joe Biden's doing.
And he said a ten.
You remember stuck on the bite He stuck on the Biden train to the very end.
Um look, I I it's disappointing because I think he had potential.
I really do.
In term in terms of, you know, when he started out, well, let me interview conservatives and have conversations.
And that just didn't work out.
That he got too much rushback from the liberal radical base of his party, which then turned him into part-time governor, full-time tweety bird, full-time podcaster, and full-time angry governor, and you know, obsessed with Donald Trump and trolling Trump all day.
He's not Trump.
He's not good at it.
He thinks that, oh, I'm really getting under their skin.
He's telling Colbert.
No, you you're actually making a fool of yourself.
You just don't know it.
Democrat Party makes a fool of himself, Sean.
The whole Democrat Party.
I don't know of anybody from the Democrat Party.
Well, then what the hell are you doing living in Rhode Island?
Because that state slants us as solidly left as Massachusetts.
Yeah, well, I'm originally from Massachusetts, but I always vote Republican, Sean.
It's just uh like you said, you did have a good mayor of Providence once.
I know he went to jail, but I really liked him.
Buddy Siency.
Well, he was a character.
He was a good govern a good mayor.
1980.
He ran for governor but didn't get in.
But he uh yeah, great guy, Republican.
He was uh he actually went independent towards the end, but um I love your show.
I'm gonna continue listening and uh keep up the good work.
Well, next time you go, whenever Buddy Sancy would come to New York, this guy was such a nice guy, so gregarious, and he'd tell me the best stories about his years in prison, how he was like the mayor in the prison he was in and had the best attitude in the world.
He'd always bring me black pearl clam chowder that was frozen, and I'd I'd go home and I'd be like happy as hell.
And he he really loved life.
And it's um, you know, people like that with that kind of infectious personality, you just you can't help but love the guy.
Uh anyway, Tom, appreciate it.
Thank you, sir.
All right, we'll take a quick break.
We'll come back.
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Uh I bet you can't do that live right now.
Go.
I don't even have the script in front of me.
I can't.
Oh, okay.
I don't know what's gotten in the lender the last couple of days.
I'm worried about you.
What's wrong?
There's something something is snapped.
Something too nice.
Yesterday you said to me, hey boss, boss, would you mind could you please do me a favor?
Um, can you do me a favor, please?
Um we need one spot.
I know you're busy, but if you have a minute, would you mind doing this?
It's important.
It really I I I kind of went out on a limb and I told them I'd try to get you to do it.
Would you mind doing it?
Yeah, and you very kindly did it, so thank you.
The client was very happy.
And what did I say to you?
I said to you, I said, Are you okay?
I said, Are you sick?
Is everything all right?
I said, Are you sick?
Are you all right?
Oh man.
So Abel Abigail, what's her name?
Uh Spanberger.
Yeah, running for governor.
Uh I happen to like Winsome Sears.
I think Winsome Sears would be a perfect follow-up to Glenn Youncan.
I wish Glenn Young could run for a second term.
I like him a lot.
Um, but running against a radical Democrat, and they recently uncovered a clip, and in light of everything that's been going on in society, quite applicable to the moment that we're living in.
Listen.
Let your rage fuel you.
Every time we hear a new story, we let it fuel us.
Every time we turn on the news, we let it fuel us.
Every time something bad is happening, we say, oh, that's motivation.
I'll tell you this.
I have an opponent who's incredibly motivating.
Let your rage fuel you.
Wow.
That's a great slogan.
I that's a new one.
Haven't heard that before.
You know, that's a good thing to uh run on.
Uh LA, South Carolina, next on the Sean Hannity Show.
What's up, LA?
How are you?
Sean, I appreciate you having me on, and thank you for all you do and having the courage to do what you do even when it's not popular.
But this is what By the way, when I first supported Trump, it was not popular.
Oh Yeah.
Glenn Beck, Ben Shapiro beating the crap out of me for a couple of years straight.
Oh, now they're big supporters.
By the way, there's a lot of people that fall into that category.
I don't call them out.
I'm glad they're on board now.
But man, where where's the phone call?
Yeah.
Uh uh, you were right, Sean.
We probably shouldn't have been that harsh against you nonstop 24 7, but whatever.
Who cares?
Sean, you've always been a trailblazer, so you just keep being you, boo.
Well, I listen, I'm honored to do this every day.
My job is yeah, I mean, you you want an audience, but if I'm not honest with you, if I don't tell you how I really feel, and I I remember in 2016, and I I watched Ted Cruz.
I've loved Ted Cruz.
I always loved Ted Cruz.
I didn't think he could win.
I didn't believe it.
And so I saw potential in Trump that the moment was perfect for an outsider to win, and that you know, these private conversations that we had together, I mean, they got heated some nights late into the night.
And I did my own vetting of them and I realized, wow, he is he is not the person that I thought he was, and I knew him for many years, even prior to that.
I've known him now for three decades.
Wow, wow, yeah.
No, you've been right on the cutting edge on that uh all along.
But and this what you're talking about today really goes to what what I really can't wrap my head around.
We have these elected officials who take an oath of office to uphold and and protect the Constitution and the people of the United States, and these same some of these same elected officials are lying to us.
Those same elected officials that are lying to us um actually have security clearances.
Why are these people not being held accountable for inciting these terrible things that are going on?
They are inciting people for going and and killing these people, other people.
I can't wrap my head around it, Sean.
It's it's absolutely insanity, and I don't understand how some of the people can't even see it.
Well, I gotta tell you, I I played a l uh you know what?
I'm gonna do this, LA in your honor.
I'm going to replay that which we played on radio yesterday.
And this is Democrats and their constant demonization of ice.
Nobody's gonna convince me that this does not have a hypnotic dehumanizing impact on people, especially people on the edge.
Now, I I do hold people accountable, the people that pull the trigger, they're responsible.
But do I believe people's minds could be whipped into a Frenzy and that they they can be convinced when prominent figures repeatedly say racist, Nazi, fascist, etc.
I do.
Anyway, in your honor, this is for you, LA play.
Donald Trump's modern day Giscapa Gescapo is scooping folks up off the streets.
As somebody who understands history, when I see ice, I see slave patrols.
The dangers that we saw in uh in you know Nazi Germany are the dangers that we need to react to now.
And these ice agents running around our communities like masked bank robbers, terrorizing women, massed ice agents.
No badge, no identification, grabbing people off the streets.
Massed secret ice agents are snatching and arresting immigrants.
Women who are selling fruit on a corner are people who are trying to survive day to day as day laborers are car washes.
People are beginning to complain now because car washes aren't open.
Why would you pray on a car wash unless you praying on that car wash because you know those are very vulnerable workers?
And another 30 billion dollars to hire and train ice agents who have functionally become a secret federal police force with expanding domains.
Are coming and kidnapping and disappearing people on the streets of the United States.
We have ICE ICE federal agents pulling up, terrorizing our communities, hopping out of unmarked vans, stealing and yes, kidnapping people.
An authoritarian government in Washington, D.C. is dispatching mass agents to abduct immigrants from our streets.
That is not justice.
It is cruelty and it is criminal.
$175 billion in the bill that was just signed to reinforce the ranks of ICE Homeland Security for what is Increasingly becoming self-evident to anyone with eyes wide open and any level of objectivity, a private army for Donald Trump.
All right, that was in honor of LA and South Carolina.
That's your that's your modern extreme radical, defund dismantle, no bail law, uh hate ice, demonize ice democratic party.
That's who they are.
And the same people that lied for four years, the the borders closed and secure.
The same people.
All right, back to our phones.
Uh Larry, Louisiana.
Larry, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean, doing good, man.
You need to forego the chowder and come down here and get yourself some crawfish atuffet, bud.
Uh, I don't know.
Jumpalaya may be a little better.
What do you think?
It's all good, man.
Depends on taste.
By the way, what do they call those donuts you go to with all the the sugar, the powdered sugar on top, uh Benets or something?
Oh, yeah, the beignets.
You gotta go get you some.
Bignets, yeah.
Uh I was at that famous shop in Norleans, as y'all say down there, but in New Orleans, and uh, oh man.
There's a group of liberals next to me, and they hated me, hated me.
And I said, Well, if you have anything you want to say, why don't you just say it to my face?
Because, you know, they was they was purposely speaking loudly trashing me.
I'm like, I'm right here.
If you want to say something, let me say it.
I said, How about this?
How about I offer to pay your bill and you have a good day, and uh uh, you know, leave the people, you know, respect the people that I'm with.
They have nothing to do with my job.
Right.
We'll never take any anything from you ever.
Like, okay, don't.
I thought liberals like free stuff, but whatever.
I tried.
Wow.
Yeah, you gave it a shot.
Look, Sean, um, man, I my story's a little bit interesting.
I'll be as quick as I can.
The the brief story is uh I'm a therapist and I've been in ministry for many years.
Uh about three years ago, my marriage felled and went through some of the darkest times that I can ever recall.
Um, and uh I slipped into uh made the worst decision to start drinking for the first time in my life, never drank before, and found myself in the absolute worst of worst places.
Uh, you know, a rehab, just uh lots of friends uh supporting me and just never could seem to to pull myself out of there.
And on on September the 10th, I was having one of those very inward days, man, uh, where I was struggling and and asking God for help, and then this happened, man.
Uh the gruesome, horrible death of our friend Charlie Kirk.
And I went into a 24 hour, I would call it a conviction spiral Sean where uh something changed in me and I found myself that evening praying uh I mean praying very very hard and and when I got up from there Sean I was and I'm not kidding you I was a delivered changed man uh I'll never forget the feeling it's like the scales the weight just fell off of me and it's it's like I was primed for the moment but
I needed something and and Charlie Kirk's assassination as horrible as it was became a catalyst for me to say you know I'm better than this look look at this young man and what he has given to this country and to the faith and to to our God and what am I doing?
And I walked away, Sean, and after drinking daily for probably 165 out of the last 180 nights, man, I haven't had a drink since.
I haven't wanted a drink.
I walked completely away from it.
And I'm just thankful to Charlie, and I'm thankful to his family.
I'm thankful to people that stood with him and that have supported him and supported me through my journey.
And it's not Charlie that did it, Sean.
It's God.
Jesus is the one who set me free.
he took this ugly situation and and helped me turn my life around and how many other people man in this country and across the world are experiencing moments like this and we'll never hear about them.
So you're a therapist and a minister.
You'd never drank in your life.
You go through a painful divorce.
Now, were you drinking before the divorce?
Did you do something else before the divorce?
You know, what, what, what triggered this spiral away from what, what, the path that you were on?
And, you know, and by the way, I do believe in redemption.
The word repentance means to change your heart.
You've changed your heart.
I believe that, yeah, that God has the ability to change hearts, and he does.
he does but what was it that triggered you never drank before like I can tell you a lot about drinking every dr person that drinks has a number and that and everybody's numbers unique and different some people can drink a lot some people can't drink a single drop and you have to know yourself well but what was it that triggered it in the first place?
Well, I was, you know, I did.
I had drank a little bit on and off, but not problematic, Sean.
It was in private, never went to bars.
I don't have friends that drink.
The ministry, there was no fall from grace.
We actually had just retired for a while and looking for the next, you know, door to open.
We were kind of waiting.
And there were some other things in our marriage that fell apart.
And whenever I woke up the day without my kids in my home, who are grown now, but without my wife and my kids and my future that I had that's whenever I just it took me about two weeks and then I started going to the liquor store after that I just couldn't couldn't handle the way so it wasn't like a necessarily a a fall from grace or anything like that.
I think it was a disconnection for a while and then the the problems in the marriage came to a head and then you know never having it was crazy never having drank in college, high school anything like that.
Never I didn't have a number I didn't know what a number was Sean.
Now you know what your number is I can tell you what your number is your number zero.
Zero brother my number you know and I I have a lot of friends whose numbers are zero.
And you know what I do when I have a friend that is number zero like I can I can have a couple of drinks and it's not a big deal to me but when I have a friend that I know the number zero I'll never drink in front of them ever.
Right.
Just don't do it.
Just kind of stand in solidarity with them.
And it's painful I've seen too much of it.
Being a bartender taught me a lot.
I will say this Pastor God's been looking out for you.
He has his hand on you.
We're all gonna pray for you at you stay on the road you're on now and that this conversion you know is now for the rest of your life until you enter paradise I admire the fact that you fought through it.
You changed you reached out you were humbled there's a lot to learn from you.
And you'll be able to share that and help other people.
God bless you in your ministry.
Thank you Sean appreciate it.
God bless you.
800 941 Sean is our number all right that's gonna wrap things up for today the latest on the radical rhetoric of the left and how they are putting ice agents in great danger.
Todd Lyons acting ice director also Senator Katie Britt Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, Senator Lindsey Graham.
We've got tapes of him regarding James Comey.
You're going to want to see, and a full report from John Solomon.
