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Free Speech Under Fire Abroad - September 4th, Hour 3
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So not last night, but the night before we had on our friend Nigel Farage of the Reform Party in Great Britain.
A lot of issues emerging there.
One is immigration.
He is threatening to impose Trump style policies in Great Britain.
And if you're in the country illegally, uh he will be looking to deport you.
The odds are now showing, and the polls are showing he will be the next prime minister of Great Britain if the election were held today.
And that has been a pretty hot topic in the UK.
Another pretty shocking story that is a little bit, you know, unbelievable.
I mean, we take it for granted.
It's in the First Amendment.
We believe in freedom of speech.
Uh, but in Great Britain, it is big time under support uh uh assault.
Uh the latest example, it involves a comedian writer, a guy by the name of Graham Lenahan is his name.
He is reportedly was arrested at London Heathrow Airport uh this past Monday over his social media post criticizing transgender activists.
Lenahan explained the situation on Substack, saying that he was met by five armed officers when his flight landed and they arrested him, questioned him about his post on X for crying out loud, to which Lenahan said his posts were a serious point expressed with humor as a comedian.
Lenahan said the only restrictions on his bail was that he was banned from using X. Well, so much for freedom of speech.
Many online have come to his defense, thankfully, and criticized the government, including Piers Morgan, our friend, who posted, quote, when it comes to free speech, Britain's turning into North Korea is not wrong.
Recent data suggesting over 30 people have been arrested in the UK for speech crimes ranging from so-called offensive social media posts to even private messages and satire.
Uh anyway, here to discuss and debate Maheck Cook is with us, CEO of American Frontier Strategies, and our old friend Chris Hahn of the Chris Hahn Show.
Uh and of the aggressive progressive podcast.
I thought you were a radio talk show host.
What happened to that that role?
I thought you had 12 stations.
What happened?
I still do the radio show, but the pot, you know, podcasts are the wave of the future, Sean.
Get with it.
I already have a podcast.
And I'm I'm just assuming that my podcast does a little bit better than yours.
I'm guessing.
I but it is I could be wrong.
I'm sure you this this could be the biggest sleeper hit that nobody knows about.
You're the next Joe Rogan.
I have no idea.
Okay.
I mean, look, I'm no Joe Rogan.
I'm no uh I'm sure I'm taking the numbers you're making, but I'm doing okay.
I get by.
I we wish you nothing but the absolute best.
Um, I gotta imagine, Chris Hahn, that this is something that we agree on.
Um, one other point, and Nigel Farage brought it up also on the show.
You do know that in Great Britain there are eighty-five Sharia courts.
Eighty-five of them.
In other words, a court system Separate and apart from the system that everyone else in Great Britain has to go through.
And I would imagine you don't support that either.
I don't even know what that is.
Look, I don't have a lot of knowledge of what's going on in Great Britain, but it, you know, I don't know if those courts are within the church themselves that they could excommunicate you from the church.
But if they are subjecting regular Britons to that law, uh, then I, you know, I have a problem with that.
I'm also look, uh, as I I don't know what the comedian did or didn't say, but I don't think people should be arrested for their speech unless it's creating some sort of hostile uh, you know, threat of violence towards somebody or things like of that nature, which our courts have said are not uh subject to well, you don't have the freedom in America to yell fire in a crowded theater.
You don't have the freedom uh for example uh to make terroristic threats, although I know you think them probably about me, but you're not allowed to express them publicly.
That would be illegal.
So there are there are some restrictions on quote free speech, is not uh uh a thousand percent purity, but the reality is, I mean, this guy is expressing an opinion in a humorous way, and this is now becoming widespread.
The New York Post did a big big piece about this.
I mean, they're arresting people for just giving basic, everyday, generic political commentary, and you know, it's it's viewed as a hate crime.
My fear is this could come to America.
It should be your fear too, although it would probably come from your side of the aisle.
Because I'm all for free speech.
I would never stand for that.
You know that.
I'm a free speech almost absolutist.
Um, you know, that's why you know I've been going on conservative media programs for the last 15 years.
I believe everybody should have their right to express their opinion.
Uh, I also believe that comedians need to be given a wide or wider birth than most.
I don't know what this joke is.
I don't want to comment on what it is.
I didn't see it, but generally speaking, I think comedians you give a wide.
It doesn't matter.
Do you like Dave Chappelle?
Do you like Chris Rock?
I love Dave Chappelle.
I love Chris.
Okay, they're funny.
Okay.
If they're in Great Britain, they're gonna probably risk getting arrested.
Well, that shouldn't be the case.
Well, it is the case, and that's the point.
Mahek, let's get your take.
There, I I vote in New York.
I know you abandon our great state.
As much as Chris wants to say it's not coming to America, I think it's already here.
And you see Jamie Raskin proving the hypocrisy when we saw that hearing with Nigel Farage.
I mean, he's smearing Farage as far right and a Trump psychopath.
These are the same Democrats that cheered when President Trump was banned off Twitter.
That's not free speech.
That's viewpoint discrimination, and it exists.
This is an authoritarian playbook that the Democrats ran during Biden Harris, where we couldn't talk about COVID, where we couldn't challenge the pandemic.
They continued to push and threaten bills, and there was nobody on the Democrat side that stood up and said this is wrong.
I mean, this is the same.
Maheck, let me let me let this audience know exactly what you're referring to, and then I'll go right back to you.
And that is Jamie Raskin and Nigel Farage and Raskin insulting Nigel, who happens to be a friend of mine.
Listen.
The dictators of the world have got nothing to fear from this hearing.
The Republicans called it to attack our democratic allies in Europe.
The Star Witness is not a human rights leader like Navone, but a far-right pro-Putin politician who leads the UK reform party.
But this hearing is just a drive-by hit against a strong democratic ally to benefit a Donald Trump sycophant and wannabe.
For a man who fashions himself as some kind of a free speech martyr, Mr. Farage seems most at home with the autocrats and dictators of the world who are crushing freedom on earth.
I'm delighted to reacquaint with the charming Mr. Raskin.
Um delightful testimony you gave me earlier on uh with your speech.
But hey, that's fine.
You can say what you like.
I don't care.
Because that's what free speech is, and in a sense, this has all been going wrong now for a couple of decades.
We've kind of forgotten the Voltarian principles that we'll fight and defend to the death.
Your right to say something that we fundamentally disagree with.
I mean, what a great answer, Maheck.
I mean, for us just nails it.
Free speech means protecting speech you hate, not just speech you agree with.
And this is something that Democrats don't understand.
And Raskin, as I said, just proved his hypocrisy.
You're calling Farage far right, a Trump sick offense.
When there's no free speech crisis in Britain, people are getting jailed.
You just talked about a comedian for social media posts for jokes.
That's not free speech.
And in America, you're seeing Democrats and their allies pushing for big tech censorship.
And we saw that over conservatives, elections, COVID, border.
So I am terrified if this is happening in Britain, what it's going to mean for America's future on free speech.
We have to be vigilant in this.
It's about protecting our democracy, and it's about making sure that we actually hear Farage's warning.
It's real.
Chris Hahn, let me give you an example of Democrats in the deep state combining to suppress information that is critical for an election.
Now, the FBI, we have confirmed, validated and verified the authenticity of zero experience Hunter Biden's laptop in March of 2020, well before the election in November.
The FBI was very aware that Bob Costello, then attorney for Rudy Giuliani, had a copy of the laptop from Hell.
That entire summer, the FBI s went weekly and met with all these big tech tech companies, Twitter at the time, Facebook at the time, Mark Zuckerberg, Jack Dorsey, etc.
Every big tech company warning them they may be victims of Russian disinformation.
It may be about Hunter, it may be about Joe Biden, uh, but you've got to be on the lookout for it.
They knew the story would drop because, as I said, Rudy Giuliani's then attorney had a copy of it.
The story drops in the New York Post, and then you had people like Mark Zuckerberg and people like Jack Dorsey asked the FBI, is this what you were warning us about, or is this story true?
They failed to confirm what they knew to be true.
That to me is taking cinder blocks and putting them on the scale of a presidential election and simultaneously Democrats and deep state operatives stymieing and stopping freedom of speech uh on an issue that could have great impact on a presidential election.
I'm sure you support all of that.
I am I'm sorry, but wasn't Trump president in March of twenty twenty?
I I don't understand your question.
They the president of the United States could have ordered his Justice Department to do an investigation of this.
And if you think there was some sort of but you're missing the point.
The point is deep state operatives working to sabotage President Trump, just like they sabotaged him.
We had an in intel assessment on the twenty sixteen election.
Uh Obama and Brennan and Clapper Clapper, according to declassified information released by Tulsi Glab Gabbard, didn't like senior career intelligence officials intelligence analysis, so they ended up creating a new analysis that was based on the false notion that there was Trump Russia collusion and it was all based on Hillary Clinton's bought and paid for dirty dossier.
So the deep state operatives existed while he was president before he became president.
You're all over the map, Sean.
Okay.
You're just having a hard time focusing.
Because you don't read anything but, you know, liberal newspapers.
I read her report, and frankly, her report disproves what she actually said.
Whose report?
Whole C. Gabbers reports.
We're all over the place, right?
We're talking about Hunter Biden.
No.
Right.
So, okay.
So let's let's try and focus.
The FBI knew it was true.
They pre-bunked the story knowing it was coming out.
Is that not a suppression of a story that could impact an election?
Yes or no?
And who appointed Yes or no?
Did they purposefully impact an election?
No.
Who appointed the head of the FBI?
If you got a problem with it, you the buck stops with the president of the United States who appointed the people who would in your opinion.
So you're blaming Trump for the pack fact that you had FBI deep state operators that sabotaged him.
Let's get your reaction, Maheck.
Oh my gosh.
Sean, the Hunter, first of all, the answer to your simple question is yes.
The Hunter Biden laptop wasn't just a scandal.
It was a violation of free speech.
And here's why.
The FBI had the laptop in 2019.
They knew it was real.
And the buck does not stop with the president when you have deep state operatives.
That's what they're called, deep state operatives, for a reason.
They pressured Big Tech to censor a story.
They Twitter banned the New York Post.
Facebook throttled all the shares.
And you have 51 intel officers that lied.
They signed a letter calling it Russian disinformation.
That was the single most biggest impact on our election cycle, Sean.
And the fact that today when we have the truth, Chris can't say yes to a simple yes or no question is just shocking to me.
Chris, you want to respond?
I I mean, Sean, I don't know if they allow you to wear a tin foil on your head in Florida because it's so hot and it'll burn the the sidewalk.
But uh look, the problem with the hunting, Hey, hey, Chris, don't be insulting.
The pro all of this happened, the fact that you're not educated and the fact that you're not well versed in it tells me everything I need to know because you you immerse yourself in liberal lies and propaganda and immerse yourself in MSDNC propaganda.
That's your problem.
But your ignorance does not excuse the fact that everything that I told you is true.
Here is the problem, true or not about Hunter Biden's laptop.
You're searching for an excuse to as to why Donald Trump lost in 2020.
It was because a million people died of COVID in 2020 when he was president, and the economy collapsed.
And the American people wanted a change.
Let me ask you a question.
Would the laptop that had drug use, prostitution, implicated Joe Biden as being a beneficiary of foreign money by his own son?
Are you saying that wouldn't have had an impact on the election had the FBI that verified its authenticity, told social media companies that they were pre-bunking that it was true?
Would that have impacted the election or not?
Saying that it was an unbelievable would that have impacted the election or not, yes or no.
It was an unbelievable story and it would not have impacted the election because people unbelievable story, even though the laptop is corroborated, confirmed to be true, and they went out and lied to big media companies, and the story got suppressed.
Even if everything was true and v true and verified, it was It's a verified laptop voters.
Again, do you ever do you ever read do you do any work for your shows?
Yeah, I read everything.
The vote the vote Apparently not.
You don't read enough.
Sorry.
I'll I'll I'll I'll have to send you Hannity show prep so I can prepare you in and educate you.
I I remember those Hannity show preps when I used to do your TV show.
They were quite they were quite interesting.
Uh and thorough.
You had a very thorough staff.
But here, I'm gonna let you go.
Uh but you know, you you if you want to be continue to be a guest on this show, you're gonna have to get up to speed on some of this.
Oh, I I'm up to speed on all of it.
We appreciate you.
Chris Hahn and uh Mahe Cook, thank you both for being with us.
All right, quick break, right back as we continue.
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All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Uh let us say hi to Tim is in beautiful South Carolina.
Tim, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
I'm fine, Sean.
Uh It's a pleasure.
I was listening uh with interest to your discussion on school safety yesterday.
And um I have a background.
I was for 22 years, I was the dean of students at a large LA unified school.
We had 5,000 kids, 230 teachers, and we were on 42 acres.
I support wholly the um the metal detectors.
Um in my day, Mr. Hannity, we had two LA unified school police officers on campus all day, both uh armed.
Uh the teachers union has since got rid of that because they wanted some pay raises.
So they were successful, successful at defunding the police.
Um by the way, when you talk about the kind of acreage and the number of students that you're describing, only having two officers to me is way too little.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And um uh we had we had classroom visits.
We would pick out a classroom, two classrooms a day, unannounced, and we go in there with dogs and metal wands, and the minute we got in, the students were all told to keep their hands on their desk.
So what I'm trying to say, we had kids in the middle of the night throwing backpacks over the fence with weapons.
Um every day I got out of my car, I said to myself, I have no idea what's going to happen today.
Did you have to deal with shootings on campus ever?
Yes.
Yes, we did.
And um, for instance, Mr. Handy, when we would go to a sporting event, depending on where it was, our teams and the buses were told to shut their windows and and bend down underneath the windows.
I I like the idea of cameras.
We supported cameras.
Um, but they can only do so much.
Now I know I'm at a high school, and the thing is the sancion, that was a grade school.
You need cops on campus.
That's all there is to it.
I think there's a way to do it.
I think you can secure the perimeter.
You have metal detectors, uh, you secure the entryways, but also put in place emergency strategies if if you need you know, kids to exit quickly.
God forbid there's a fire or something or an emergency.
And I think that you can use retired military that are trained, retired law enforcement that are trained.
Uh I think you can come up with creative ways to pay them.
I would certainly prioritize it.
And I think that if you do it right, school shootings will be a thing of the past, they'll never happen again.
And we can offer the same security to students that we offer to our elected officials.
And I think they deserve nothing less.
And I I completely concur.
But we had our own police force that they got rid of.
They these were real police officers with post certificates and weapons.
And um it's just the teachers there's always been this unholy alliance with the Democratic Party and the teacher and the teachers union.
And it's too bad because the teachers union donate so much money to Democrats that they have accepted at best, you know, institutionalized mediocrity, and in most cases, especially in big cities, institutionalized failure.
And they don't care.
They they don't care.
Any any good idea, for example, they had a all girls uh public school in New York City a number of years ago, and it was a tremendous success.
Test scores went up, kids were in uniforms, parents loved it, students loved it.
It was showing every sign that you'd ever want to see an upward trajectory on every front and income the teachers unions and other activists, and they shut it down.
Why would you shut down the one thing that's working in a horrible school system and district like New York City?
Why would you ever do that?
I live through it here in LA.
I I I'm telling you.
So I concur with every one of your recommendations.
And before you go, I live in Southern California, the state that gave us Ronald Reagan and the Beach Boys.
And Richard Nixon.
Anyway, my friend, thank you for the great work you did in the course of your career.
Um sad what you're describing, but understandable.
Uh let's go to Roy of Michigan.
Roy, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Hi.
Hey, Sean, how are you doing, man, today?
I'm good, Maram.
What's going on?
Hey, so um uh according to the the school shootings and stuff like that.
I you know, they have like tornado zones and all this other stuff that the kids go to.
Why couldn't we have like a a pod, yeah, bulletproof pod that the kids could go to in a classroom or something like that that they could hide behind and maybe lock themselves into in the school zone, the kids are the ones that are most vulnerable.
I mean, they could take out a lot of children before uh, you know, s uh uh uh teacher can get them into uh a closet or something like that.
But if they had bulletproof uh I would rather have a strong enough law enforcement presence, and I'm I'm talking about plain plain clothes officers, retired trained military, retire retired trained law enforcement, but enough people that a gunman doesn't get anywhere near a classroom.
I would prefer that strategy over, oh, okay, if the shooter gets in, let's hide behind the burner shield, which is not a horrible idea.
It could save lives, but I don't want it to get that far.
Yes.
Yeah, me well, me neither, but I'm just saying, you know, like you go into the malls here in Michigan and they're all gun zoned.
But uh me as a CPL license carrier, um, that tells me I can't go into that mall without it with with my weapon on me, but it doesn't say that to the criminal.
Criminals by their very nature don't obey laws, do they?
It's simple, basic fundamental common sense, which is not too common, unfortunately.
Oh, absolutely.
You're right.
You're right.
But it's just so frustrating because it it's like you hear all these children that are just so vulnerable.
And it's like, what do you do for I'm a parent?
I have three beautiful kids, man, and and I I don't even know what I would do if I got a call like that that that my child was in need of rescuing because some lunatic with a gun.
It shouldn't happen to anybody's child.
It's preventable.
I mean, we just have to want to solve the problem.
Uh anyway, I appreciate it, Roy.
God bless you, man.
Uh John in Illinois.
John, I bet you're loving your governor these days.
I bet you're loving the mayor of Chicago these days.
What's going on?
Well, I even like more than that, Mike Madigan, our former speaker of the house in Illinois from 1983 through 2021.
He may be the worst of all of them.
He was in power more longer than any other speaker of the House in the United States, and he got caught for fraud with Tom Edison, which is the power company in Chicago.
So now, because of him, I think we he's the worst of all of them.
We pay 30 cents a gallon more than uh surrounding states for gas, and we pay super high electrical costs also.
Let me ask you a question.
Why do you stay?
You know, my family's been here 170 years, and I live in the southern part of the state, and I live on the river, Mississippi River.
I know beautiful home.
I love where I live.
I I actually asked the governor of Missouri, I met him and said, Hey, have you heard anything about all the counties that are trying to escape Illinois?
And he said, Yeah, I heard about it.
I don't think it'll ever happen.
I said, Well, you have my vote.
I would go in immediately over to Missouri, but I have to go over there and buy gas.
I feel sorry.
I think the people who are really punished in Illinois are the ones in Chicago.
All the listen, I had friends of mine that lived in Chicago.
They moved to Indiana, the best move they ever made.
And they're happy.
And by the way, your ex-speaker did get seven and a half years in prison for bribery and corruption.
Yeah.
I and But what but what's sad is, you know, listening to Laurie Lightweight say this is a manufactured crisis, watching the the reaction of Brandon Johnson, you know, the idiot governor you have, J.B. Pritzer, who just wants to be president.
You know, then you had Ram Rombo, Deadfish as your mayor.
And it's like, you know, Barack Obama's from there.
Nobody ever cared enough to keep the people safe and to come up with real solutions.
Look, I I offered my solution on school shootings.
There are solutions to keep neighborhoods safe.
It's called policing.
The problem is a radicalized Democratic Party that believes in defund the police, dismantle the police, reimagine the police, and replace them with social workers and no bail laws.
I can't argue with stupid because all of that is stupid.
And it's embraced by way too many radical Democrats, which I think is probably the reason they lost the last election.
So maybe I should be grateful they're stupid.
We did have one good Republican from here, Abraham Lincoln.
I think if we'd go back to that.
You're going back a long way there to the 1860.
Well, what I'm saying is I think Illinois is ready to change.
Every state around it is red, right?
I think you're dreaming.
Indiana?
I I I don't see it.
Well I think a lot of common sense people in Illinois saw the handwriting on the wall.
A lot of common sense people in Chicago saw the handwriting on the wall.
And they've left.
Now, there might be a point, a tipping point where people just said enough is enough.
You know, and they get to the you know question that Donald Trump asked in 2016.
What have you got to lose to certain people?
I mean, after all, you voted for Democrats your whole life.
How's your how's your educational system?
How's law and order?
You know, how how are basic fundamental services?
How do you like the high taxes?
Maybe we get to that point.
I don't see it happening anytime soon.
J.B. Pritzker, if he was on the ballot tomorrow, would win.
Brandon Johnson would win.
Uh I momdani is probably gonna win in New York.
That's my strong guess.
And in Illinois, 15 years ago, had only one elected Republican.
Now this county has no elected Democrats.
I I think on the ground, there's more there's more to see because I think people are tired of it.
We pay the second highest property taxes in the United States.
If they are if they're hired tired of it, why did they elect after Laurie Lightweight Brandon Johnson?
Why did they elect J.B. Pritzker?
Why is New York City on the verge of electing Marxist Kami Mamdanny?
If they're really sick of it, because New York City's not much different than Chicago.
Well, I'm not buying that they're sick of it.
I think they have bought into it.
Yeah.
Oh, I think they bought into it for a long period of time, but I think it's gonna have to take some event, is what I'm saying.
And in our county, what happened is the guy that was running the county, he was selling property taxes.
People would not pay their taxes.
He was immediately foreclosing and then selling it to his friends and got caught.
And once that happened, and everybody figured it out, that there weren't really that many Democrats here.
And there are in Chicago, but I gotta think they gotta be tired.
I mean, I see you report every night on all these poor people that were shot.
You must be selling it.
I'm telling you right now, the election were tomorrow, J.B. Pritzker wins by a pretty healthy margin.
I hope I wish I was wrong.
I'm gonna run though.
I do appreciate your call.
Thank you, John.
800-941 Shawn will stay in Illinois, say hi to Larry.
Larry, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Hi.
And I I hate to have to do that, but that's the truth.
Um we live in a state where J.B. Pritzker about a month ago, when they were talking about bringing ICE in, he says, I'm gonna protect my people.
Well, I got news for him.
I am not one of his people.
Uh he treats us like subjects instead of citizens.
And uh if anybody anyone man wants to say he owns me, it's our Lord Jesus Christ, he owns me.
But this porky pig imitation does not own me.
Let me ask you the same question I asked the last caller.
Why do you stay?
Why do I think it's we have the people like that?
No, why do you why do you stay in in a state that obviously has values that are very different than yours?
Well, I'm I'm past retirement age, and uh, you know, I'm gonna I move back here from Wyoming and I'll probably end up staying here and being buried here.
Other than that, I would leave.
If I if I was uh healthy young, robust person, I would be gone.
I appreciate the call, my friend.
God bless you.
800 941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
All right, That's gonna wrap things up for today.
Uh Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on Capitol Hill today.
What a bunch of jackasses.
Anyway, Marty McCary will join us, who is the FDA commissioner.
Gary Brecker, Health, Wellness, Fitness, Nutrition, Matt Towery.
Yeah, Americans love RFK Jr.
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