RFK Jr. vs. Senate Democrats - September 4th, Hour 1
Sean opens the show with fireworks from Capitol Hill as Robert F. Kennedy Jr. clashes with Senate Democrats over vaccines, medical freedom, and government overreach. Kansas Senator Roger Marshall highlights the staggering 76 shots children receive by age 18, raising questions about transparency and parental choice. Sean underscores his belief in medical privacy, recounting the false promises made during COVID and warning against blind faith in government bureaucrats. Dr. Mehmet Oz joins to break down the hearing, defending Kennedy’s push for accountability at HHS and calling out the CDC’s failures. Together, they argue for informed consent, freedom of choice, and an end to political theater that ignores real health challenges.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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If you want to join us, fireworks on uh Capitol Hill today, Senate Committee, and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
And we do have some health news.
Uh it is no longer going to be mandatory in my free state of Florida to give vaccinations to your kids.
There was a uh he's a medical doctor.
He's also the senator from the great state of uh Kansas, uh Roger Marshall, uh Senator Marshall was at this this hearing with Health and Human Services Secretary Kennedy, and he went through in 18 months.
You may not know this.
Your children are given 76 shots, immunizations, jabs, he was calling them.
I'm sorry, by the time they're 18, not 18 months.
And he's concerned, obviously, about the interaction of these vaccines.
I learned things watching this hearing that I'd never known before, that a lot of the vaccinations, uh like, for example, uh, Senator Kennedy was talking about hepatitis A, hepatitis B. You know, only one in in seven million children uh ever have any issues uh in involving hepatitis A or B. Now, you don't want it, you don't want to get it, but it's it's part of the vaccine vaccine regimen that people have.
You know, the a lot of this comes down to philosophy and ideology.
I am a big believer that you, as a parent, you as an individual, you should make informed health decisions for you and your children and your family, and it's nobody else's damn business.
And for those of you out there post-COVID that put any faith, hope, trust in the government uh on issues involving your health, I think you're being rather naive.
That's my own personal opinion.
But do whatever you want.
All throughout the COVID-19 pandemic.
I was being pressured constantly.
What is your status?
I never I don't.
I was I would have very willingly told people my status, if you will.
But once they were insisting that I tell people, I'm like, no, none of your business.
I believe in medical uh um I believe in medical privacy.
It's really none of your business.
Nor would I tell people what to do.
And there was pressure brought to bear on me in this show and my TV show that I tell people that they need to get vaccinated.
Um meanwhile, I'm not a medical doctor.
I don't know anything about people's current medical condition.
I don't know anything about pre-existing conditions they they have.
I don't know anything about comorbidities they may have.
I don't know about other risk factors that I would not know about or be privy to.
You know, but they told us and they made representations that turned out to be completely and utterly false.
If you get the jab, you're not gonna get COVID.
False.
If you get the jab, you're not gonna infect other People.
False.
You know, nobody cared to even listen, and actually he he got excoriated at some at different points.
Uh Dr. Robert Malone, he created the technology that allowed for the creation of mRNA vaccinations.
And we had him on this program many times, had him on TV.
And we had other doctors on that believed, for example, in a protocol if you tested positive, like hydroxychloroquine, for example.
Numerous studies post COVID have shown that if you did, in fact, take it early, it did uh repeatedly show up in studies, starting with the Henry Ford Hospital study, that it did mitigate symptoms.
And anyway, so things got very fiery on Capitol Hill today, and you know, this really comes down to a I guess uh an ideological battle that we have.
I do have this advice for all of you in my audience.
It's not medically related, although it does include any advice that the government might give you as it relates to your health.
Um I suggest in the in the in a day and time when information and artificial intelligence exist and information's available at your fingertips at any point of any given day, and as comprehensive information as you could ever want, need or desire that you inform yourself and not take the word of some unelected some elected bureaucrat that may have a political agenda that you don't even know about.
And this philosophically comes down to you know, two schools of thought.
I believe in the concept of limited government, greater freedom, less government intrusion into our daily lives, as much freedom as possible.
Now to have that, you do need certain things from the government.
You know, we do need a national defense.
The world is a very evil place.
Uh we have the greatest best military on the face of the earth, and I don't care what show Vladimir Putin, President Xi, and Kim Jong un little rocket man uh might put on, but I have faith and confidence and b belief in our medical uh and our defense uh capabilities, and it's only gonna get better under President Trump.
I hope he's able to successfully build out a golden dome that may one day save millions of lives.
Unfortunately, evil has always existed, it will always continue to exist, whether we like it or not.
But it's ideologically, philosophically, there are so many people that look to the government to be their answer.
And there are so many politicians that play on the fears of individuals, and this is where the whole ideology, philosophy, promises of socialism, you know, always manifest itself in some way, shape, manner, or form, and it doesn't matter what name it's given at any given moment or time, Marxism, socialism, statism, green new deal ism, it's all basically the same womb to the tomb, cradle to grave.
I mean, you look at the list of Green New Deal promises, that's that is pretty much redistribution.
That is pretty much you know, government-controlled every aspect of your life, and there are people that want to put their faith, hope, and trust in government.
We still live in a free enough country, although certain states I would argue have taken away a lot of your freedoms.
But if you want to live free and you want to take control of your own life, my admonition, my suggestion, my advice, if you will, is never depend on the government for anything.
You know, how how's that government school system working in your small town or big city?
How did all those Obamacare promises work out?
Keep your doctor, keep your plan, and and the average family will save $2,500 a year.
How did that work out for most of you?
We're now at a point where premiums are up nearly 300% nationwide.
Uh millions of Americans lost their doctors, millions lost their plans, and 40% of the country plus has but one Obamacare exchange option, and that's it.
What happened with Social Security?
They put the money in a lockbox, right?
They did, and they squandered it.
They spent it.
And it's now headed towards insolvency and will need to be rescued.
And the same with Medicaid, Medicare, all of these services, again, your government makes promises, you want to believe them.
I don't believe them.
I don't trust them.
I won't depend on them, And I urge all of you to take on that rugged individualist spirit where you don't have the government safety net that really isn't a safety net anyway.
You know, the b i you know, well, they're gonna give us free government healthy food and guaranteed uh child care and guaranteed, you know, preschool and and guaranteed government college and and and get guaranteed government job with a guaranteed government wage and a guaranteed government retirement plan.
Guaranteed, guaranteed, guaranteed.
And socialism, every form, every name, every manifestation always ends the same way.
Broken promises, uh greater pro poverty by a long shot than where you started, and then you calculate how much freedom you gave up in the name of false security rather than living with the responsibility that goes along with freedom, and that fr and that is the ingenuity of the American people.
And that is t finding the talent that you were born with and and finding a way to make money at the talents that you and the gifts that God gave you.
That would be the ultimate.
You know, so to watch, let me play.
We'll give you a preview of what we're going to do at the bottom of this half hour.
We'll have Dr. Mehmet Oz on.
It got very, very contentious today.
Uh, I'll give you one exchange, Ron Wyden telling RFK Jr. that his positions on vaccines are indefensible.
Listen.
Dangerous respiratory viruses like RSV are on the agenda for the next advisory meeting.
Countless parents have been awakened in the dead of night by a wheezing kid gasping for air, forced to rush their little one to the ER.
There's no worse heart-wrenching fear.
The RSD vaccine offers these kids protection against the worst effects of the virus.
But now it looks like you're on a crusade to make infants and babies more vulnerable to the terrible illness.
That's what we're doing with the COVID uh changes.
And please make your answer brief, Mr. Secretary.
I've said that position is indefensible.
I think it's possible has been investigating that committee for 23 years because it is it is pervaded with conflicts of interest.
What we did is we got rid of the conflicts of interest.
We put we depoliticized it and put great scientists on it.
A very diverse group.
Let me call very vaccine.
And they wouldn't let him finish a sentence almost the entire hearing, so he was getting frustrated.
It was frustrating to watch it.
Uh, but how stupid they are was on full display.
Here's uh RFK Jr. telling Wyden, who but looked like himself like he needs medical care, he looked like a cadaver to me.
Uh, you know, telling him that you sat in that chair for 20 and 25 years and chronic disease and our children went up to 76.
Listen.
Senator, you've sat in that chair for how long?
20, 25 years, while the chronic disease and our children went up to 76%.
And you said nothing.
You never asked the question why it's happening.
Why is this happening?
For the first time in 20 years, we learned that infant mortality has increased in our country.
It's not because I came in here.
It's because of what happened during the Biden administration that we're gonna end.
I mean, wow, pretty powerful.
Then there's uh medical doctor, also GOP, Kansas Senator, uh Roger Marshall.
Listen to what he says about the jab and vaccinations for for kids by the time they're 18.
One of your themes for the CDC is is transparency.
And I think when I hear you talk about transparency, I think part of that is sharing what you know, what the CDC knows with parents so that they can make decisions.
Behind me, yeah, I know it's gonna be hard to see from there.
I can barely read it.
This is the current CDC recommendations for vaccines for children.
On day number one, uh, they get their first jab, a hepatitis vaccine.
By the time they're 18 months, they've had 18 jabs.
By the time they get to be able to vote, they have 76 jabs.
A lot of jabs.
Now, interestingly, prior to the today's hearing, our friend Matt Towery over at Insider Advantage did a survey, and what they found is a majority of Americans believe they make America healthy again, believe in these goals and these efforts, and believe it's way more effective than in the past.
The majority approve of RFK's job and his performance.
COVID shots are questions.
40% saying they know someone who claims harm from what was emergency authorization.
And to finish the thought on Robert Malone, who created the technology, said it was never designed for widespread use, never designed for children.
It was a worst case emergency pandemic moment where maybe you'd give it to people 65 and older or people with pre-existing conditions and comorbidities.
Anyway, the goals according to this poll and efforts are more effective than I've seen in the past.
53% say yes.
The opinion of Robert Kennedy Jr., 52% disapproval of only 33% on COVID vaccinations.
How confident are you in their safety?
I was surprised that this answer at 54%, because I'm not at all.
None of the things never lived up to the promises they made.
Do you know a family or friend who encountered health problems and speculate they were a result of the COVID-19 vaccination?
Forty percent of people said yes.
Now we'll get into the explosive hearing coming up later in the program.
We'll also get into the insanity of uh the crime debate that continues around the country.
We have a lot to get to on that front.
Uh and we'll get to a lot of your calls today as well.
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I think J.D. Vance of the ex post of the day said, When I see all these senators trying to lecture and gotcha Bobby Kennedy today, all I can think is you all support off label, untested, irreversible hormonal therapies for children, mutilating our kids and enriching big farmer.
You're all full of Adam Schiff and everyone knows it.
Like, wow.
We'll get Dr. Roz's reaction to that coming up uh as well.
But just to finish my thought, to the extent possible.
You have to be I would say try to try to be as independent as you can in your life and not believe government bureaucrats when they tell you the shot is going to prevent COVID,
and not believe that Obamacare is going to save you $2,500 a year and you keep your doctor in your plan, or not believe that Social Security and Medicaid are in a lockbox, or not believe that our public schools are the best in the world when you know half the kids are not proficient in reading and in math.
You know, don't trust the government when you have the liberty and freedom to be independent as possible if you take advantage of it.
Dr. Oz is next.
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Before we get to my friend Dr. Roz, I see AOC blasting Hakeem Jeffries and Chucky Schumer for refusing to endorse uh Marxist Kami Mamdani in New York City.
She's very concerned about it.
This could be the beginning of the end for Chuck Schumer.
If she primaries him, she will win in New York City and in the state of New York.
Also, get this a California judge ruled that not hiring an illegal immigrant for a taxpayer-funded job constitutes discrimination.
Can't make that one up either.
David Axelrod urging J.B. Pritzker to shut up, stop complaining, and start cooperating with President Trump's uh crime crackdown.
I guess 58 people shot and eight dead, you know, just didn't impress him all that much, which unfortunately is fairly predictable.
Uh anyway, let's go back to the contentious hearing.
RFK Jr., I just read to you an insider advantage poll.
Uh most Americans by a wide margin are supporting RFK Jr.
Uh 52% approval rating, only a 33% disapproval rating.
Uh most families, 40% of people said they've encountered friends or family members that believe that they have health problems as a result of the government promises about the COVID-19 vaccination.
Um I want to play uh Senator Roger Marshall, he's also a medical doctor from Kansas, and talk about all the immunizations that people get by the time they're 18.
One of your themes for the CDC is is transparency.
And I think when I hear you talk about transparency, I think part of that is sharing what you know, what the CDC knows with parents so that they can make decisions.
Behind me, yeah, I know it's gonna be hard to see from there.
I can barely read it.
This is the current CDC recommendations for vaccines for children.
On day number one, uh, they get their first jab, a hepatitis vaccine.
By the time they're 18 months, they've had 18 jabs.
By the time they get to be able to have to vote, they have 76 jabs.
Now, the free state of Florida where I live is now set to put an end to all vaccine state max vaccine mandates, according to the state attorney general and Governor Ron DeSantis.
Uh in other words, giving people freedom and giving people choice, um, which I think is great.
Now, it was a moment, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., he was obviously getting frustrated.
Democrats wouldn't let him talk, but he just nailed Ron Wyden.
Listen to what he said to him.
Senator, you've sat in that chair for how long?
20, 25 years, while the chronic disease and our children went up to 76%.
And you said nothing.
You never asked the question why it's happening.
Why is this happening?
Today, for the first time in 20 years, we've learned that infant mortality has increased in our country.
It's not because I came in here.
It's because of what happened during the Biden administration that we're gonna end.
Uh pretty powerful.
And maybe the most powerful comment was made by the vice president, J. D. Vance, and he put it up on X. He said, When I see these senators trying to lecture and gotcha Bobby Kennedy today, all I can think is you all support off-label, untested, irreversible hormonal therapies for young children mutilating our kids and enriching big pharma.
You're full of Adam Schiff, and everyone knows it.
Anyway, we welcome back to the program, our friend uh Dr. Mehmet Oz, 17th administrator of the Centers for Medicare, Medicaid.
Uh, sir, welcome back.
I uh I I was frustrated for Bobby.
I really was, um, because they had no interest in actually getting real answers, and they have no interest in any of the facts that he just stated to Ron Wyden.
It's political fear, and you know this well.
Uh, but it was surprising to me that they actually demonstrated very little curiosity about the massive challenges that we face at the CDC.
And I'm let me speak about this from someone who's on the inside, because I did the president and Secretary Kennedy asked me to run CMS, which runs Medicare and Medicaid.
Uh my good friend Martin McCarey, uh runs FDA and Jay Badascharia runs NIH.
All three of us, tenured professors at major institutions.
So we're not, you know, coming from outside the game.
We were put in those jobs because those institutions that we're the agencies are running have challenges, and together with Secretary Kennedy's uh strong leadership, we're making massive advances across the board to address the things he was speaking about with Senator Wyden in the clip you played.
But the CDC doesn't have a leader right now, and they didn't have a good one when they got one finally, although it took a long time to get someone in the door, and they have a cultural challenge that the Secretary feels strongly about addressing.
What he started to do was to ask important questions.
The Maha movement, Sean, is defined by one word, curiosity.
Are you truly interested in learning what's going down and addressing it with the courageous actions that are required?
And we had a an important meeting last week, and I was sitting with Secretary Kennedy, and uh, you know, he's good friends of both of ours, and he said something uh that caught my attention is my dad would always say that progress requires change, and change has enemies.
And you see those enemies now.
The things that he's trying to do, addressing the 76 doses that uh Senator Marshall spoke about, he's a wonderful OBGYN, good doctor.
All the doctors recognize we're getting a lot of shots to kids.
This is not about pro or anti-vaccine.
This is the right vaccination schedule for you as a parent who loves your child, uh, what they're doing in Florida, the free state of Florida, is wise, give parents the freedom to decide what's best for their kids, and doctors would work with them.
That's a precious covenant.
Why would the state get involved in mandating hepatitis vaccines for babies that within an hour of their birth when you get hepatitis for intravenous drug abuse and prostitution?
Right?
How does that work?
Like why would you suspect uh a baby would have that when you've tested the mother and she doesn't have hepatitis B. So these are the kinds of questions that should be asked.
It's not a yes or no.
Some parents I want that.
Some parents say, hold off, they'll do it later.
That doesn't make you anti-vax.
And that's the polemic we have created, the one that I hope powerful shows like yours can address.
Stop dividing for or against.
You know, one of the things that frustrated me, and you took a lot of criticism because you often came on this show during the pandemic.
And yeah, you were you were not preaching take the jab, take the jab, take the jab.
You you wanted people to be informed to make informed decisions for themselves.
And every time I hear Bobby Kennedy talk, I hear him talking about educating people and letting them then decide, not forcing people to do things, mandating people do things uh that maybe is not in the long term in their best interest.
Um I'll tell you, because in the beginning of COVID, we were told you take the jab, you're not gonna get COVID.
That turned out to be false.
Uh, we were told if you took the jab, you're not gonna infect others.
That also was false.
Uh the other thing that frustrates me is there is no thought process about the next generation of medicine, which will include health savings accounts, health care cooperatives, telemedicine, things we've discussed many, many times.
Well, you'll probably remember, I certainly would never forget, uh, in April of 2020, so a couple months into this, and we've got a good rhythm going, and I've noticed that there was a lot of evidence from other continents that kids were going to school and it wasn't causing any problems for the kids or the teachers.
And we spoke about it on your show, and just got crushed.
And the CDC guidelines, it turns out, were informed by teachers union reviews.
So this is what our the secretary is talking about.
There's a conflict of interest.
You know, when you're recommending rules you just made up, like stay six feet away or wear a mask, putting masks on toddlers, like there's any evidence, I think common sense evidence that it might be beneficial.
But here's the big story.
We have four percent of the world population.
We had 19% of the deaths from COVID, right?
So five times more likely to die in this country than the average person around the planet.
Now, and in what world does that mean the CDC did a good job?
To me, it sounds like they actually were making the stuff up or making poor decisions or not being honest about the risks of chronic illness, which we know are important.
They pushed vaccines instead of treatments.
You maybe you want both.
I think President Trump should get a Nobel Prize for operational warp speed.
It was a remarkable feat for our country to put that out.
And in the wartime period that those decisions were made, I supported that.
And world changed.
We're not at war anymore with COVID.
Listen, on this program, you supported uh hydroxychloroquine.
You got the crap beat out of you for it.
There's been numerous studies, starting with the Henry Ford uh hospital study.
That was the first of many that showed that taken early, it did mitigate s symptoms.
Uh you were looking at anecdotal evidence.
I remember talking to you at three, four in the morning because you were up talking to people in other countries about what they are learning.
And you were sharing this information, and just for sharing information that you were gathering and working hard to gather every day, you know, you were excoriated for it.
Monoclonal antibodies.
I didn't tell people what to do.
I said ask your doctor if maybe it would work for you.
It turned out, I think, to be the most effective treatment.
Usually life-saving, and when we were censored, not just us, but many others, just for asking questions.
What the secretary is saying, and I it you know, I came up in different ways, but I'll let me to summarize it for you.
When you mix politics and medicine, you get politics.
You crush medicine, you crush science.
You have to give the freedom to people to answer questions.
The most anti-scientific phrase I've ever heard, maybe in my life, is it's settled science.
There is no such thing.
We're supposed to ask questions.
We're put on this earth to query, go beyond what's in front of our eyes to look for deeper messages and lessons.
And yet, in especially during COVID, but it's been re weaponized in many ways before and since.
We're not allowed to ask questions.
The Senate uh the secretary is asking questions.
The senators were pushing him about why he was asking questions.
And as a physician, and again, I highlighted me, Marty and Jay are tenured professors at Stanford, Columbia, and Hopkins.
I mean, like top-tier institutions, top rank academic.
We would never consider letting someone graduate if they didn't believe in asking questions, and yet the secretary is being criticized as senators for doing his job.
The job that's you were you you bravely went out there and yeah, you were excoriated often.
And and at one point I said, if you really don't want to come on the show anymore, I wouldn't blame you because I felt as a medical doctor you were taking more heat than I was.
I'm a talk show host, I don't care.
Um but I I thought that J.D. Vance made a very poignant point.
Um the government told us that we wouldn't get COVID if we took the jab.
They told us that we wouldn't infect other people.
That all turned out to be false.
And JD just nailed it when he said, All right, yeah, they're trying to gotcha Bobby and lecture Bobby today.
And how many of these Democrats support off-label untested, irreversible hormone uh hormonal therapies for young children mutilating kids and enriching big pharma?
Uh I mean, a lot of them.
That's the problem.
Well, as you know, we've taken a huge stance against that very action because it's not scientific.
We were pushing back when we're outside of government about this uh mutilating uh series of operations and medications that are given to kids, irreversible, often destroying their lives.
They're now suing when they get older, old enough to realize what was done to them.
And yet that's condoning and you're criticized for pushing back and in a place where now other countries are saying they're pulling back.
You know, European countries said we went too far, this wasn't right, we were tricked.
All the dishonest narratives about kids will kill themselves if you don't let them mutilate themselves, and yet, as JD points out very thoughtfully, and I think it's an accurate assessment.
If you're willing to allow that to happen and not push back, what else are you willing to do?
And why would you decide to turn your your your wrath on a Secretary of Health and Human Services who's pointed out very honestly to Senator Wyden and others that we have witnessed the decline of well-being in this country for 50 years?
When I was in medical school, we had the same life expectancy as Europe.
We're now five years behind.
We have this wonderful rural health transformation fund announcement going on by the way on Monday, uh, Sean, which is huge, fifty billion dollars that the president and Congress is putting into rural health care that should get them back on track.
But if you live in rural America, you've got 40 percent higher instance of chronic illness, 50 percent more chance of suicide, and your life expectancy is two years shorter than the average American, and we're five years behind Europe.
It makes no sense at all.
And yet we're here, you know, hammering this secretary for making brave decisions.
He's fixing HHS.
I can tell you that from the inside.
CMS is healthier, FDA, NIH, he's not working on CDC.
Give the guy an ability, give him the room.
Well, let me ask you, did you have a chance to speak to him after this this you know political theater this show today where they didn't even want him to really speak?
I did.
As soon as he finished, we spoke, and we actually recorded something together.
He's in a good spirit.
He feels very calm, as he often gets when he's felt he's waged battle thoughtfully and wisely and honestly.
And you know, you can't get to Bobby Kennedy uh with those kinds of questions.
And I'll tell you why.
And he would permit me to do this, he was on the phone with you.
You know him well.
Bobby, you know, grew up in a very tr uh troubled environment.
His father was murdered when he was young.
He's been through a lot of adversity.
Um he used drugs.
Uh he goes to A every morning.
A man like that knows what rock bottom is really like, and he knows how to weather the storm, uh, and he knows what a true North is.
All things that we've talked about in the context of other people.
Uh I find him just to be a f a breath of fresh air.
You will not get under his skin by telling lies about him.
You tell him a truth he hasn't thought about, that'll stop him.
Well, I thought he did a great job in light of the fact that he didn't really want truth or answers.
Uh you're doing a great job as well.
Uh, we appreciate your time, Dr. Oz.
Uh, Dr. McCarley will be uh on Hannity tonight.
Uh we'll show some of the highlights if people missed it today, I'm sure he you'll be you'll be a little shocked.
Uh, Dr. Memonaz, appreciate you being with us, sir.
Thank you.
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All right, when we come back, we'll update you.
More insanity from Illinois and J.B. Pritzker and this idiot mayor Johnson.
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