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Best of Hannity: Mike Rowe - August 9th, Hour 2
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, uh everybody says, well, AI, the future is going to change dramatically.
Well, the future is now.
It is changing dramatically.
And as a result of artificial intelligence, I can tell you that there are going to be careers and jobs that are simply going to evaporate in our economy.
And that's why it's critical that you think through if you're a young person what profession you might be thinking about going into, because you don't want to be replaced by artificial intelligence.
I spent a lot of time using Grok.
I've learned a lot from it, and you can learn a lot from it.
I urge all of my listeners, if you've not experimented with Chat GPT or Grok, Gemini, any of these artificial intelligence things, I would spend time with it.
Now, I say this because I read an article and I spent a lot of time on it maybe about a month and a half ago.
That the next generation of millionaires in America are going to be blue-collar working class people.
That's the one thing that we know AI is not going to replace, although robotics are certainly showing up in a major way.
I saw, for example, a video this week of a robot doing a roof on a house and doing it perfectly.
I mean, that would be something you have to pay attention to.
Gen Z is ditching college and taking up secure trade jobs, but new data shows office administration jobs are still safer, more stable, and less deadly.
Um with that said, the one person that has been maybe the biggest advocate of the trades is our good friend Mike Rowe.
Um love Mike Rowe.
He's he's a great broadcaster, good friend.
Uh, he's with Mike Rowe works, and uh anyway, we appreciate that's his foundation.
I still never I donated 25 grand, but I never got my my autographed.
I never got my autograph poster from all the captains of Deadliest Catch.
And uh I'm waiting for it.
I'm sure it'll come any day in the mail now.
How are you?
I'm just saving it up for a special, a super special You got the check and you cashed it, so that's all I know.
Well, let me tell you what I did with the money and a bunch of other money that came in from people who like you uh lived a balanced life and like you believe that prosperity can still be achieved by learning a skill that's in demand and working your butt off.
I put it in a pile and I awarded 526 work ethics scholarships this year.
That comes out to five million, fifty thousand dollars.
That money goes out later this week to help train the next generation of skilled workers because the articles you mentioned are rooted in fact, undeniable, incontrovertible fact.
And it's too early for a victory lap, but for 17 years at Microworks, we've been saying that the chickens will come home to roost.
Uh and they're gonna look a lot like carpenters and plumbers and steam fitters and pipe fitters and HVAC professionals and collision repair and welders and so forth.
And so it is uh it's somewhat gratifying uh and and a little scary.
You know, I thought your summation there was pretty balanced.
I don't have a crystal ball either, and long term, who knows?
But short term, I think you're right on the money.
The next generation to hit it out of the park is going to be a generation possessed of skill.
So in my ten years that I worked in construction, I did everything from framing and roofing, and then I learned how to paint, and I I started my own painting company.
Then I learned how to hang wallpaper, and then I then I learned how to lay tile.
Uh I didn't like falling three stories off a roof.
I didn't particularly love heights, it was not my favorite thing, especially after falling.
Um I'm frankly lucky I was alive.
Uh because I went down head first.
It was a slippery day, it was in Rhode Island, and it was the last nail of the day, it was a hell storm.
We were trying to put tar paper on the roof before we left, and my feet gave out.
I swung at a two at the second two and a half story dormer with my hammer, I missed it.
Now I'm going down head first.
I dislocated my elbow, broke my radio head, busted up my teeth.
After all my years playing hockey, I didn't lose a tooth, now I lost them all.
And I'm kind of felt feel lucky that I'm alive in many ways.
However, when I learned to do finish work, when I would paint a room or hang taper or lay tile, and I was I had really had a good eye for finish work because I I just I I really wanted to do a good job.
I had a I had a sense of personal satisfaction at the end of every day that I can't even really describe the people.
No, you can't.
Um part of what Dirty Jobs did, and you know, I was I'm particularly proud of it because it's very difficult, you know, you're in TV.
Uh TV is careful, it's produced.
You hire actors, you create scripts, you rehearse.
Dirty jobs, we never did a second take.
We only used real people, and we would show up with our cameras and we would go on a roof like the one you described.
And we witnessed some accidents like the ones you described.
And I'm not here to sugarcoat it.
You know, the world is filled with risk, and the skilled trades are not for everyone.
Peep some people just aren't cut out for it.
That's why our scholarship program is is called a work ethic program.
Uh the world's a dangerous place, and the skilled trades uh are near the tip of that spear.
But having said all that, your last point is the most important point.
There's so much meaning, there's so much purpose, there's so much satisfaction.
I mean, we did 350 dirty jobs, and you know, uh people still ask me to this day, what did that cohort know?
What did that group of people know that most of us have forgotten?
And a big part of that answer is the simple satisfaction that comes from always knowing how you're doing along the course of your work.
And these are the intangible things.
It's kind of like uh soft skill, right?
You can't you can't really teach people appreciation.
You can't really teach them work ethic.
These are things you choose to have or not.
And um I spend a lot of my time, as you know, with the foundation, it's not just a scholarship fund or a PR campaign for hard work.
It's an honest attempt to get people who aren't in the trades, not necessarily into them, although that's clearly something we need to do, it's only a matter of national security, but just to foster a sense of appreciation, a little bit of wonder for the fact that when you flick the switch, the lights come on, and that's a hell of a thing.
And when you flush the toilet, the mess goes away, and that's a modern miracle.
And if we don't have an honest appreciation, I'm talking about the three hundred million or so people who share my addiction to smooth roads And and indoor plumbing and affordable electricity.
If we're not blown away by the miracle of it and by the people who provide it, then the skills gap is going to get wider.
And I worry, man, because I'm rooting for the president.
I want to see manufacturing re-shured and and I want to see industrialization reinvigorated.
But we have 7.6 million open jobs right now, Sean.
480,000 of them are in manufacturing alone.
So by the way, that's about to get so much bigger because Donald Trump has secured anywhere from twelve to fifteen trillion dollars in manufacturing money for automobiles, for pharmaceuticals, semiconductor uh chips, uh rare earths, magnets.
I mean, all of that manufacturing is coming online quickly, especially because he they added apparently bonus depreciation, which means that if you build a manufacturing center, you get to write it off in year one, and that is incentivizing companies to spend that money almost immediately.
Yep, yep.
All true.
But look, here I was in the room uh about three weeks ago in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, sitting on the stage with the president and 35 CEOs of some of the biggest companies in the country who collectively pledged ninety-two billion dollars to infrastructure and data centers in PA alone.
Now, it was a story, but it wasn't big enough.
This is a huge thing that happened.
And I realized about halfway through, the reason I was there was kind of to remind the crowd look, we've got the money, and we have a president who seems pretty determined to bring these opportunities uh back to the states, but I don't know that we have the workforce right now, and I don't know if you've crossed paths yet with Nick Eberstadt, you'd love him.
He wrote a book called Men Without Work.
And in it, he takes a deep, deep dive into the reasons why there's seven million able-bodied men in this country right now, who not only aren't working, they're not looking for work.
That's never happened in peacetime before.
So when you think about the opportunities that currently exist that employers can't fill, and then when you think about the opportunities you've just described that are going to be created, you have to wrestle with the basic truth that creating jobs is different than creating enthusiasm for jobs.
And if we don't have the enthusiasm, if we don't have the aforementioned appreciation, we're going to have a really tough time filling those opportunities.
The jobs that we're describing here are high-paying career jobs with great benefits, you know, that will help people achieve the American dream.
You know, um I've always admired you from afar.
Um I feel like my in my life and career, I've been blessed beyond anything I ever deserved.
Uh if there were two shows that I could do that were different than what I'm doing now, they would be the two shows you worked on.
Dirty as jobs and and deadliest catch.
Yeah.
I mean, you you know I'm obsessed with them because I talk to you about it all the time.
I'm obsessed with it.
Well, you're and I because I I mean, like uh uh my heart was broken when when deadliest catch you went through a period was about two years in a row, and a lot of the crew members they were dying left, right, and sideways.
I'm like, oh my the you I couldn't even believe it.
Yeah.
It was so tragic and so sad.
And you knew these guys intimately.
Yeah, Phil Harris was a friend, lost him in 2000 eight, I suppose it was.
Cornelia Marie went down.
We lose a guy every year, you know, and and look, this is this is not something that ought to be glamorized, but nor is it something that should be ignored.
You fell off a roof in the midst of a construction career that you nevertheless continued to enjoy.
These men on Deadliest Catch, which by the way, season 21 just started, 21 seasons.
So, you know, there are a lot of things you can look at dirty jobs and deadliest Catch and you can you can wonder, you know, why would those shows last two decades?
And you know, I I've got a couple theories, but at the top of the list is the simple fact that they show you something that is undeniably true, undeniably real, and undeniably work.
And it's a reminder, you know, as we I think, I mean, since we started this conversation with uh artificial intelligence, I'll make the point around that that term in the future, even though I can't see it clearly.
I am pretty sure that there's going to be a bright line drawn between all that is artificial and all that is authentic.
And that line's going to become really important for people to understand.
And we're going to value things on both sides of the line, but we're going to hunger for the authentic thing.
Whether it's a piece of art, music, or a roofer, or a craftsman.
And I think the extent to which this new technology affects everything will be different.
It's going to be really hard to handicap what comes next exactly.
But let me tell you, you can never replace those guys on Deadliest Cutch.
Artificial intelligence, maybe technology might help the you know how heartbreaking it is when they pull up uh, you know, when they pull up the cage and there's no no crab in it.
I'm like, oh.
I'm like so disappointed.
I feel like I'm living it with them.
It's life.
It's like I mean, the metaphor It's real.
It's it's absolutely real.
And look, I'll tell you something else you don't see in that show, which is also 30 seconds, so go ahead.
Flat seas, nothing happening, pleasant temperatures.
I've never seen that.
And you know not in the Bering Sea, no.
But it's a part of life too.
Look, you your your day is full and busy, but you don't spend 24 hours on the radio or in front of the camera.
That's what people know you for.
But there's a whole lot of other stuff that makes Sean Hannity Sean Hannity.
And the same is true of Mike Rowe and Phil Harris and any any one of a thousand roofers we've never met, uh, but would be better for.
We love uh talking to our friend Mike Rowe.
Mike, we appreciate it.
Don't forget Micro Works.
I believe it's Microworks.com, right?
Microworks.org.
And look, I will, I promise you, I promise you I'll get you that.
Don't worry.
I I'm I just love jazzing it.
It's fine.
Uh I love those guys.
Please tell them I'm a big fan.
I'll tell them, and I'm serious about the money.
It went a long way, and we're gonna raise it.
That was my pleasure, but I just give uh I'd just like to give you a hard time because I can.
You gave me an opening, and I'm taking full advantage of it.
I'm at your mercy.
Thanks for having me on.
All right, Mike Rowe.
All right, quick break, right back.
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In a minute, we'll get to Greg Jarrett and Brett Tolman.
Greg Jarrett has a piece out today who could be indicted by a grand jury in the Russia collusion hoax.
And he names names.
But first, let me play Tulsi Gabbard on Obama's involvement in all of this.
Go to ODNI.gov G-O-V.
It's all right there for anyone to see.
And those who go in and read this will see how President Obama directed that a National Security Council meeting be called to talk about Russia, that the report that came out of that meeting was filled with tasks that were delivered by James Clapper's assistant to John Brennan and to other elements of the intelligence community.
John Brennan was the head of the CIA at the time, all saying per the president's direction, per the president's order.
And very specifically, they were tasked to create an intelligence assessment that detailed how Moscow tried to influence the election.
Not if, but how.
And this was the beginning of this manufactured uh intelligence assessment where they knowingly wrote things in this assessment that were false, and they knew they were false.
They knew that they were basing it on discredited uh intelligence or documents like the steel dossier that was politically motivated and that they knew was false.
Uh and and this was how they came up with with the Rush hoax that was then weaponized and used to try to delegitimize the president, President Trump, and to try to ultimately enact this year's long coup throughout his entire four years of his first uh administration.
Let me give a little context to what Tulsi is saying as part of the declassified information that she released.
The first part of this is there was an original intelligence assessment.
She's talking here about the the intelligence assessment that was ordered after they read the original one that was put together by senior uh career intelligence officials uh released in early December 2016, a post-mortem, if you will, on the 2016 election, asking the question if there was any Trump-Russia collusion.
Their o their conclusion it was it was finished.
There was no Trump Russia conclusion.
That is what our top career intelligence officials determined.
And then as she rightly points out, it was Obama ordering people, you know, not if Russia interfered, how Russia interfered.
And then they went about creating a new intelligence assessment report.
And it's the new intelligence assessment report that purposefully used what that had already been completely debunked by that time, and that was the dirty Russian disinformation Hillary Clinton bought and paid for dossier, uh, and other information that they knew to be false to come up with an assessment.
Oh, that yeah, Russia favored Donald Trump and that there was collusion when there never was.
They knew there never was.
They knew it was false intelligence.
So initially, this plan was hatched in July of 2016 for the purposes of smearing and slandering Donald Trump to deflect away from Hillary's own email server problem.
They knew it was manufactured, but also the declassified information gave us very pertinent information that, yeah, this will give us a bump out of the convention, but then they'll be accelerant when the FBI runs with this lie as well.
And remember in August of 2016, Bruce Orr warned against using the steel dossier because it was political in nature.
Uh but yet it became the basis for not one but four Pfizer applications, which ruined Carter Page's life, and then was a backdoor way to spy on the Trump campaign, and later his transition team, and then later his presidency.
Uh, but the fact that all these top officials and well going all the way up to Obama saying not if but how Russia interfered after the initial assessment said otherwise is breathtaking to me.
Greg Jarrett is with us, Fox News legal analyst, New York Times bestsell author.
He wrote two best selling books on this very topic.
And Brett Tolman is with us, former federal prosecutor.
Sir for U.S. Attorney of Utah.
Greg, I loved your article today.
Who could be indicted by a grand jury in the Russia collusion hoax?
Um this is something you wrote about what, seven years ago?
Yeah, seven years ago, and then the sequel six years ago, Witch Hunt, and I laid out how Brennan Comey and Clapper um were untruthful in their congressional testimony.
And you've identified it.
Um, they insisted that the dossier was never a part of the intelligence assessment, and they were incredibly devious about it, Sean.
They actually erased or expunged the section of the intelligence assessment in which they relied on the dossier.
They provided to Congress and the public a sanitized version of it.
They literally took it out and then testified, oh, you know, we didn't rely on it, it's not in there.
Well, turns out the newly declassified documents show a clean original version in which it's in the body of the ICA.
Now, that strikes me as a lawyer as a deliberate falsehood.
It's a lie.
And so if you're testifying under oath, that's perjury.
And if it's not under oath, it's nevertheless a false fraudulent statement.
Both carry the same punishment up to five years in prison.
And if you conspire together to do that, it's a conspiracy, which only doubles down on the penalties.
Bret Tolman, let's get uh your your view on this matter.
Well, nobody's really talking about uh Barack Obama being being charged, right?
We we we're assuming presidential, you know, executive immunity applies.
But I say, so what?
Let's put him in the grand jury.
If the conspiracy, you know, started while he was president, it certainly continued when he was no longer president.
I want to see him answer about communications that he had after.
What did he communicate with Comey?
What were the what were the emails or the text messages?
Because this is Obama who is the only president in our lifetime who stayed in Washington, D.C. when when he was done serving as president.
Why did he do that?
Because he knew he had an opportunity to try to control the government.
A shadow government was what he was pushing for.
So I would love to see the use of the grand jury to robustly investigate all of the conspiracy, including President Obama, and what he who he communicated with after he was president.
Greg, you let's go back to your column who could be indicted by this grand jury in the Russia collusion hoax.
Who?
Well, in addition to Brennan Comey and Clapper, which we just discussed, there are other people who were involved at the CIA, the FBI, uh, the Office of National Intelligence, and you know, some of these people um were coerced into doing it.
They would probably, as witnesses, ask for immunity.
And their testimony would be valuable.
They might get conditional immunity, but there are others.
And for example, we've already seen some of their emails who warned uh Brennan in particular, you're using bogus information, the dossier, don't do it.
There's no other credible evidence to justify this revised uh intelligence assessment.
Those people, and I think there are probably at least a handful, if not a dozen, will happily step forward before a grand jury and implicate not just Comey, but uh Brennan rather, but Comey and Clapper as well.
But you know, the list is a long one.
I identify in my column today, you know, the Hillary Clinton campaign.
Not just Hillary yourself, but those who were in on it.
I think a critical witness is Julianne Smith.
It it was Smith, according to the Durham Annex, that proposed the entire fictitious collusion scheme that Hillary approved on July twenty-sixth, two thousand and sixteen.
And, you know, Smith was questioned by Durham's investigators and said, well, I don't specifically remember, but it's possible I did that.
Well, being placed in legal jeopardy in front of a grand jury, she may have a sudden um memory recollection.
And, you know, that would be a critical witness.
But I've also identified Jake Sullivan, uh, the attorney, Mark Elias, Robbie Mook, John Podesta.
Um these are all critical people who, to me, appear to have been involved in conjuring up the hoax and spreading the lie.
And their testimony, I think, would be important because they're also in legal jeopardy.
I wouldn't be surprised if they too would take the fifth.
All right, quick break, right back more with Greg Jarrett, Brett Tolman on the other side, and your calls coming up, final half hour 800, 941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program as we continue.
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Who might be indicted by a grand jury over the Russia-Russia-Russia hoax?
We continue with Greg Jarrett and Brett Tolman.
Let's talk a little bit now about this issue of immunity, Brett that you brought up, because conventional wisdom is that that presidential immunity in the decision, the Supreme Court decision as it uh related to President Trump would apply to President Obama.
And there's one maybe slight bit of difference.
I know it's I know everyone thinks that that would apply.
But is it really part of the duties of the president of the United States States to subvert or sabotage uh intelligence or manufacture false intelligence for the purpose of hurting uh a successor?
Well, Sean, I think you hit on the point that this country needs to be talking about.
And yes, you know, the Supreme Court did clarify that the government could not use in a prosecution the evidence of his communications while he was president.
Um, but he's outside the bounds of of what you know his executive power is.
You never have executive power to commit a conspiracy to interfere in an election.
So because of that, I think the focus needs to be on was he part of the conspiracy still when he left as president.
That's the cleanest case.
You don't have to worry about litigating what he said and what he did when he was president.
But when he's no longer president, are there overt acts by him or communications in furtherance of the conspiracy?
It is highly unlikely that he just left as the president of the United States and didn't continue to try to orchestrate what we know was an attack on President Trump while he was president to try to pull him down and and and delegitimize his presidency.
So if that's the case, conspiracy continues on well past when it first committed, and it involves individuals that may not necessarily know, like Greg points out properly, is they may not know they're really part of this conspiracy, but there are those that did, and what were those overt acts?
And President Obama was at the helm of this.
So he needs to be put in front of the grand jury.
Let him take the fifth while he's in the grand jury and let the American people see that he he has a lot to hide after he was president of the United States.
What's your take on that, Greg Jarrett, his post-presidency actions?
Well, if he's claiming that he has uh broad uh immunity for official acts, not unofficial, but official acts, he's uh he's no longer in jeopardy before grand jury, right?
Um, because he he he's got immunity.
He claims immunity, you know.
Uh he has to tell the truth because he's he's no longer in jeopardy.
Uh he was knee deep in all of this.
Uh the new records show that he pressured Comey to clear Hillary Clinton of her obvious email crimes.
I think that's well accepted.
Yeah, he didn't he didn't want this to, you know, put a stain on his presidency.
That's right.
And then he actively joined the plot to push the phony collusion narrative that Hillary had instigated.
And he was a principal player engineering that counterfeit case against Trump by altering or massaging the intelligence.
Um, you know, I I agree with uh Brett's analysis.
I think he should be called.
Hillary Clinton absolutely must be called.
And you know, if she's not telling the truth in front of the grand jury, and the documents and testimony of others undermine her and demonstrate that she's lying.
There could be a new charge against her, lying to a grand jury.
So, you know, all of these people, it strikes me, are in a world of hurt.
And by the way, you know, I would bet they're all going to plead the fifth, but I have to run real quick.
I uh I know they think uh that this is gonna happen in Washington, D.C. I disagree.
I think it's gonna happen in Florida based on an overarching criminal conspiracy that extends to the Mar-a-Lago right.
So I think the grand jury will be or already is in the state of Florida.
Uh be fascinating.
Wouldn't it be great if I got called?
I'd be very fair and balanced.
I believe in our constitution, I believe in the rule of law.
That's the problem.
You don't want people like me on a grand jury or on a jury altogether.
Uh anyway, Brett, thank you.
Uh Greg Jarrett always as always, thank you.
Thank you.
Uh, I know we see a ceasefire in Israel, but uh if you ask the people of Israel if they're feeling peace, you're gonna get a very different story.
You know, bombed out homes, complete neighborhoods, families torn apart, kids, they can't play outside.
The violence may have slowed, the fear has not.
You have tens and tens of thousands of Israelis that have been displaced, they have no homes to go back to.
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