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I am in favor of defunding the police.
In your meeting with Zoran Mamdani, you have not endorsed him yet.
What do you say to people who say, what gives?
I look forward to sitting down and talking to him.
I didn't get involved in that primary election and I don't know him well.
Zoran Mandani is an incredible talent for it, not to be won over.
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If you want to be a part of the program, we're going to get to Senator Ram Paul here in just a second.
It was pretty interesting.
The congenital liar Adam Schiff called out by the president about this issue of getting a mortgage in Maryland when he's supposed to be a congressman and senator from California, which would be illegal.
Now, I believe he was one of the people that got one of these preemptive pardons on the way out the door.
I don't know if he got one of the auto-penned pardons, which is under heavy scrutiny, which we'll talk about later in more detail in the program.
But Adam Schiff was actually asked a question about mortgage fraud yesterday.
Didn't have much to say about it.
Listen.
Senator, do you have a response to Trump saying you're guilty of mortgage fraud?
Do you have any response?
Senator, why did you decide to make your primary residence Maryland for 10 years?
For a decade, not California?
Any comment on Trump accusing you of mortgage fraud, sir?
Any response?
Oh, anyway, Senator Ram Paul joins us.
If in fact he's supposed to represent California and he claims Maryland as his residence to get a better deal on a mortgage, what do you call that?
Definitely not being forthright or honest.
You know, these questions have come up for a long period of time.
And people who run for office ought to know better.
Your primary residence is very important.
It's where you vote.
But if you represent a state like I represent Kentucky, I'm in the same house I've been in for the last 26 years.
And some people do sell and have no property in their state.
And that's a sad, sad statement.
But to list your home state as a different state than yours is a big problem with the electorate usually.
Yeah, I think that might be a bit of a problem.
All right.
So there's a lot going on in D.C., not the least of which is this use of the auto pen.
We'll get into more details and specifics yesterday.
I mean, later in the program, it happened yesterday.
And my question to you is, when did you first notice that Joe Biden was in a significant cognitive decline?
I first started calling it out in about August or September of 2019.
Yeah, I think it's been noticeable for years.
The shuffling gait, the distant look, the discompobulated responses, the sort of word salad responses.
So no, been going on for years.
And I don't know how the mainstream media or really rather the left-wing media was able to make excuses, but nobody, you know, it's tell me something that my, you know, my lying eyes deceived me somehow.
So I think people knew and saw it.
And in the end, it all came to a head with that debate when the American people saw it firsthand.
You know, some people don't follow politics as closely as you and I.
I know that's hard to believe, but their attention is focused by the presidential debates.
And when that happened, I think it came to a head for all America to see.
And, you know, I've never said the first time in our history, someone's been actually pushed out with only months to go and then replaced.
All right.
Let me ask you this question because I know that you were not, for example, in support of the Big Beautiful Bill.
I know you wanted more cuts, more controls on spending.
We just got some data back, though.
Number one, the projections in terms of the tariffs that Donald Trump has put on other countries is bringing him far more income than any economic guru or commentator or pundit, anybody in the punditry class ever anticipated.
And for the first time in June, we had a budget surplus for the first time in 20 years.
What is your reaction to that?
Because I know that's an issue that matters a lot to you.
You know, it's good news, and I'm the first one to compliment President Trump when something goes his way.
I still believe that ultimately, if you look at tariff revenue on an annual basis, it's looking like it'll be about $100 to $150 billion more than it was the previous year.
To put that in context, though, we're running about a $2 trillion deficit, so it might make it smaller on an annual basis, but we still have a big problem.
And you saw last night we were up all night to cut $9 billion.
And one of the senators looked at me last night and he said, well, you realize that's three days of interest on the national debt.
We pay about $3 billion a day in interest.
And so it's a start.
You know, I supported it.
We've got to do more.
I don't think the tariff income can be enough to really balance a budget.
We actually have to cut spending as well.
Yeah, I don't disagree with you, but this is my analysis of what the president is doing economically, which I support.
And I've always believed in supply-side economics.
The president also, just with the tariff threat, has been able to get in the next four years over $11 trillion now in commitments for manufacturing in this country.
And by the way, vital manufacturing.
We're going to bring back automobile manufacturing.
We're going to have pharmaceutical manufacturing.
I know it's critically important.
The fact that we have outsourced that is insane.
We learned that during COVID, as you know.
Also, semiconductor chips.
We're now going into mining and getting rare earths and magnets and things that are critical to our infrastructure and defense programs and automobile manufacturing.
So between all of that and the president's push and openness and desire to achieve energy dominance, and I don't think we can calculate how much revenue that will bring into the country.
I think it's we can be an energy-rich country.
I think foundationally, the president has set us up for great economic prosperity and that the amount of money that the government will bring in as a result is incalculable at this time.
And the CBO is planted solidly left.
They get it wrong more often than not.
Yeah, I agree with the way you've characterized it.
You know, I supported the tax cuts in 2017, really support them today.
If the bill had been just the tax cuts, I would have voted for it.
I do believe in supply-side economics.
I'm a big fan of Art Laffer.
I think he was right back in the 80s and is right today.
When we cut taxes in 2017 in the first Trump administration, the economy did grow and it grew to such an extent that in the end we didn't lose revenue.
We actually got more revenue with lower rates.
I think that can and will happen again.
And so I do support that.
And the problem I had, and still some of my reservations are that the bill had about $500 billion in new spending.
And I just don't think when we have a $2 trillion deficit, we should spending new money.
I think we should be actually cutting spending.
So it's sort of the debate going around here.
And we often have this debate: you know, if they bring in $5 trillion and we spend $7 trillion, we can balance the budget in one of two ways.
You could raise taxes $2 trillion and balance the budget, or you could cut spending $2 trillion.
I'm much more on the side of the cutting.
I don't really want to raise taxes to balance the budget because I think, for example, if the 2017 tax cuts had expired and we went up in taxes and made the budget smaller, I think it would have crippled the economy and then you end up with less revenue anyway.
So I don't accept the CVO.
I think they're wrong.
They've been wrong historically.
So I do accept the tax cuts are a good idea, but I think there still needs to be a voice around here saying that we're spending too much money.
I support you in that and agree with all of it.
What about your discussions with Senator Lindsey Graham?
Because I know he's had conversations with you about a second reconciliation bill to do just that.
And I think most Republicans would support it.
I'd certainly support it.
Well, you know, we had an example of where we are last night.
We ended up having a vote to cut $9 billion.
So that's 0.1%, a tenth of 1%.
It's a good start.
I mean, it is a start.
I don't say it's a good start.
It's a start.
It's going in the right direction.
I supported it.
But we lost, you know, three people on it initially, and then in the end, we lost two.
So we have to push harder.
And really, we need more recision packages and bigger.
We have to have courage among Republicans.
And so when people say, oh, we're going to do a second reconciliation package at a simple majority, I'm for it.
But I've sort of tongue-in-cheek said, yeah, well, we need a big operation up here, though, because we're going to need a spine transplant for half a dozen of these Republicans that'll act like Republicans and not Democrats and actually vote to cut spending.
You know, it's pretty amazing to me now.
For example, they put in work requirements for Medicare, et cetera, et cetera, which I support.
Democrats are out there doing what they always do.
They're demagoguing and they're lying.
For example, they're saying that Medicaid is having cuts.
That's not true.
There's a 7% increase over the course of the next number of years in Medicaid spending, and that is called an increase in spending.
But Democrats characterize it as a cut because it's not the rate of increase that they previously had planned for.
In other words, a reduction in the rate of growth, which is probably the only way you're going to prevent them from headed towards insolvency.
Am I wrong?
Yeah, this is the kind of shenanigans the Democrats have been up to forever, saying that a cut in the rate of increase to spending is devastating and people will be thrown on the street.
I think the real message Republicans need to get better at is that I want Medicaid to be smaller.
I want less people on Medicaid, but I want them, I don't want them to go without insurance.
I want them to have private insurance.
There are jobs everywhere in our country, and what we need to be is not pessimistic towards our young people.
I went to an HVAC class at a tech school recently in Louisville, about 60 to 80 young people in the class, young adults.
Every one of them's tuition was paid for by an employer, and when they finished, they already had a job.
All they had to do was complete the course.
This is the same for electricians, carpenters, welders, plumbers.
You know, when I talk to people about electricians, they say everybody's 55 and older, and we're running out.
We've got to have younger people become electricians.
All of this stuff are great opportunities for people.
It's not a woe is me.
I've got to be on government assistance.
It should be, this was an exciting time.
Let's get more people pulling the wagon and less people in the wagon.
And really, if you talk to a hospital, they say, oh, we want more Medicaid so we can make a profit.
I say, well, why don't we make 100% Medicaid?
They say, oh, we don't want that.
We lose money.
So, really, what you want is a small percentage of your public, 5% to 10% of people to be on welfare or on free government insurance, and 90% need to be on private.
And it's a step up.
That's what we need to encourage people.
Those jobs are everywhere.
We just got to get back work ethic, and we got to get people in training programs for the trades or college, if that's your deal.
But it should be an optimism out there for our next generation, not a pessimism.
All right, quick break, right back.
We'll continue more with Senator Rampaul of Kentucky on the other side.
Then your call's coming up.
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Senator Rampaul is with us from Kentucky.
If you look at the president now, we're, you know, on Sunday, it's going to be, you know, we'll be at the six-month mark of him being president.
This is how I view his presidency.
He's been able to secure the borders.
He's in the process of deporting criminals.
We've had known terrorists, rapists, murderers, other violent criminals, cartel members, gang members, drug dealers that Joe Biden allowed into the country.
I think that's a big success.
I think the $11 trillion in commitments I mentioned, I think that's in manufacturing, that's a big success.
It's somewhat historic and transformational six months.
Yeah, no, I agree.
And I would say that, you know, people know me as sometimes being a high-profile opponent of the president, but they should also know that it doesn't mean that I'm not supportive or a friend, frankly.
I played golf with him a week ago, and I told him to his face, I think you're the best president of my lifetime, and I'm not, he knows I'm not sucking up to do this because I do oppose him publicly.
I think he's in some ways.
I've talked to him about you.
You annoy the hell out of him.
But when you talk about things like the department.
But he still likes you personally.
But at times, you annoy him.
Yeah.
But I'll tell you one person he doesn't like from Kentucky is Tom Massey.
Yeah.
But unlike the Department of Education, Reagan talked a good line.
We supported Reagan against Ford.
I was there in 1976 at the convention with my dad as a kid.
We were Reagan people because he was for smaller government.
But even when Reagan got elected, he never did anything to make the Department of Education go away.
But Trump is actually attacking that.
Trump's all the Doge stuff has done amazing things that no other Republican would have done.
So I'm highly complimentary to that.
By the way, the Doge website says they've saved the average taxpayer up till now over $1,100 a year in savings.
That's a lot of money.
It's a good start.
It's not enough.
I think they've done some amazing things, and we need to continue to work to codify it.
And it needs to be something that doesn't go away.
It should be a permanent assessment of waste and fraud and abuse in our government.
It should be permanently part of this checking to make government better.
We've done it from the congressional side.
We expose all this stuff.
A lot of the stuff Doge talks about, we talked about.
But from the legislative side, we can pass laws, which is hard, but the executive branch can actually do it and begin doing it.
One of the great things is that the Supreme Court has now upheld the president's right to fire employees and to do most things with employment.
So that's a great advantage for downsizing government.
Anyway, like I say, I have great compliments.
I still have disagreements with President Trump on certain things.
I'm still uncertain.
I think that the effect of the tariffs ultimately could be negative for our country and the results will come in over the next year.
But that doesn't mean I don't support him on taxes.
The border, my goodness, they should spend every day all day talking about the success of the border.
He basically, through force of personality, sending some troops down there, sending people down there and directive and announcing to the world that we weren't allowing people just to invade our country.
He transformed it in a matter of months.
It's just like nothing I've ever seen before as far as transforming something by sure personality.
The biggest, most preventable national security disaster in the history of the country.
And we're all at risk and remain at risk because of it.
Senator Ram Paul, appreciate you.
Thank you, sir, for your time.
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Dale in the United Socialist Utopia of California.
Gavin Newsome Territory.
There's a lot of Gavin Newsome news today.
How are you, sir?
Good, sir.
Nice to talk to you.
Pleasure is all mine.
What's on your mind today?
Oh, it's a communist country that we're turning into with the Democrats.
I think they ought to have to live by what they propose theirselves.
Well, I mean, it's really sad.
Yeah, I mean, I look at your state of California.
I mean, U.S. Special Envoy, for example, for Special Missions, Rick Rinnell, he actually was out there accusing Newsom yesterday of lying about the state's intention to conduct a land grab within areas hit by the LA fires in the Pacific Palisades.
And anyway, it's been an ongoing fight between the administration and the governor.
And it came as local residents are in an uproar out there over apparently the governor's plan to build low-income housing on some of the fire-ravaged lands.
And last week, Newsom allocated $101 million for developers to build low-income housing in the areas hit by the January fires, according to these reports I'm reading.
And that decision came just days after Newsom signed a rollback of environmental regulations that has been blocking the construction of multi-unit housing structures in cities, what is often called, quote, urban infill.
Newsom also said it's time for Trump to grow up in a rebuke on the president.
And he also called Trump a son of a beat.
And it's not helping the state of California because the Trump administration, they're firing back.
They pulled a whopping $4 billion for this ridiculous train to nowhere that you guys have been talking about.
How long have you been talking about a train from LA to San Francisco that became a train from Bakersfield to Mercer?
How did that happen?
A long time.
How did that train ever get built?
No, the trains, by the way, 16 years of failure, no completed high-speed track, escalating costs.
Why should one taxpayer dollar go to this project?
It's a waste of money.
Sean Duffy said after a decade of failures, the mismanagement incompetence has proven it cannot build its train to nowhere on time or on budget.
It's time for this boondoggle to die.
President Trump and I will always fight to ensure your tax dollars only go to projects that accomplish great, big, beautiful things.
And the review found zero miles of high-speed track have been laid since ground was broken 10 whopping years ago and costs continued to balloon.
I mean, how does that even happen?
And by the way, you know what's happening in Los Angeles, as long as we're talking about your state?
And Los Angeles is now so rough and tough that tech companies are buying dummies to use as fake homeless people as they test their new delivery robots.
I mean, this is like an Orwellian, dystopian nightmare.
I mean, what is going on out there?
Yeah, that's why we're all leaving.
Well, I mean, wait till Mom Donnie gets elected.
I mean, can you imagine six months later, California Democrats have done basically nothing to allow homeowners in the Pacific Palisades to rebuild?
I think that I saw a picture that I think one house was rebuilt, but they had the permit ahead of the fires.
Yeah.
It's pretty unbelievable.
And I'm sure I haven't checked, but I wonder, are they paying taxes, property taxes on homes that don't exist?
They had hydrants without water in them.
They had reservoirs that were empty.
And Newsom's answer was, well, ask local officials.
Oh, that's taking responsibility.
Yes, sir.
I'd like to see something happen.
He's doing a great job, and he needs to give up what he's doing.
I'm telling you, if you want New York and California to become the rest of America, vote for one of these people.
Good luck.
No, not going to happen.
Let me play Zoran Mamdani supporting the abolition of private property.
Listen.
My platform is that every single person should have housing.
And I think faced with these two options, the system has hundreds of thousands of people unhoused, right?
For what?
And if there was any system that could guarantee each person housing, whether you call it the abolition of private property or you call it just a statewide housing guarantee, it is preferable to what is going on right now.
And I think that people try and play like gotcha games about these kinds of things.
And it's like, look, I care more about whether somebody has a home.
All right, back to our phones as we say hi to Tracy in New Orleans.
What's going on, Tracy?
How are you?
I'm well, thank you.
How are you, honey?
I hope you're well.
I'm good.
Not many people call me honey.
I appreciate it.
I didn't think you were allowed to use those words anymore, but I'm perfectly fine with it.
I'm sorry.
I'm from the South.
I'm from New Orleans.
I'm totally messing with you.
This is not a woke-triggered show.
Thank goodness.
Because I wanted to get on your case.
Yesterday, you told Linda.
You were giving her.
Oh, geez.
Okay, let me interpret what it is when she goes, mm-hmm.
That is her expressing her displeasure that I don't run the show the way she wants me to run the show.
Now, she's entitled to her opinion, but it's like, you know, the voice of condemnation rather than an appreciation for the fact that I've only been doing this since 1987.
No, seriously.
It's also meaning I know you're wrong, but I'm that I'm right, but I'm going to go ahead and give in to you about the- We should take a poll.
And I can love to be a part of that poll.
I think that Tracy, first of all, we should play the breaking news sounder because Sean Hannity has just said Sean Hannity has just said he can read a woman's mind, which I can tell you no other man can.
You just said you know what I mean and what I'm thinking when I say, mm-hmm.
So, Tracy, don't you think that's breaking news sounds?
First of all, no, there's a little distortion here.
I was talking to Tracy again.
But it's not accurate.
You don't go, mm-hmm.
That sounds like you're eating a good sandwich.
I go, mm-hmm.
I have a friend of mine, Rodney.
When I'm in D.C., I sometimes use somebody who you know's house to stay in.
Okay, right.
And I will cook for this friend of mine and sweet baby James.
And he loves my cooking.
Loves it.
Everybody goes, mm-hmm.
Now, there's one mm-hmm.
And then there's your, mm-hmm.
The way you did it is not how you do it.
Well, regardless of how I did it at that moment, my standard is, mm-hmm.
It is a very judgmental.
But again, to Tracy's point, I think it is wonderful that you have now discovered a new hidden talent of telepathy into the female mind.
And again, kudos to you, boss, because that is something many men have tried for years.
So it's a big day for you.
So let's go around the horn.
Uncle James, when we get the first of all, you can't ask Uncle James, you're related.
It's not even a thing.
That's like me asking you.
He's agreeing with me.
So that's one in my corner.
He's like, that's a shock to all of us.
Another breaking news sounder of the day.
All right, let's go to Jason.
Jason, is it done in a way that expresses disapproval or not?
Of course it is.
Of course it is.
It doesn't mean it's wrong.
Jason's like, here's the bus I'm driving.
Katie, is it a voice of disapproval that she wants me to do it her way and I just am doing it my way?
I don't care what she says.
I mean, I'm with Jason.
You know, it doesn't mean it's wrong.
It's a tough room.
It's a tough room.
It's basically the same sound that Katie makes when her callers don't listen to her and they do the exact opposite of what she tells them.
She's doing a lot of mm-hmms in here.
I'll tell you that much.
All right, Tracy, do you understand?
It is an expression of condemnation.
That's right.
Condemnation.
Well, you know, it's like getting a text from somebody and reading into the text, you know?
And so you can.
Not reading into it.
I mean, everyone on the staff agrees with that.
Four people have agreed with him, Tracy, and that's all there is to it.
All right.
All right.
Because they're the four people that know.
Anyway.
Anyway, I love it.
Thanks, Tracy.
No, she's not done.
Just comment, Sean, about Mom Donnie.
I do have a comment about Mandani.
And here's what I wanted to say about this.
I lived in New York for eight years, all right?
And I was there during Giuliani's term.
And New York was the best place.
All right.
You know, he had cleaned it up and it was just a wonderful place.
Since I left, I was left during the Bloomberg years.
And, you know, I could kind of see it like changing and changing and changing.
And here we are today.
Curtis Liwa, who we don't.
He was great last night.
I don't know if you saw him on TV.
He was great.
Yeah.
But that's the thing.
Okay.
So here's the way that Mandani is running his campaign.
He's doing it through, you know, YouTube, TikTok, social media.
And that's why everybody thinks it's like, he's great.
You know, he looks good on camera.
He, you know, he's charming.
He's, you know, what I'm saying.
It's like that's, he's going after that.
And he's got a little Gavin Newsome in him.
Gavin is slick, personable.
I mean, on a personal level, I could tell you, I get along.
Well, I used to get along.
He doesn't like me anymore.
But we used to get along.
I mean, he can be charming and slick, but I think his policies are atrocious.
Absolutely.
And that's the same thing as Mamdani.
So I'm trying, like, Trump went on TikTok and does that whole social media thing because of Baron.
Baron is young.
I have teenagers.
I have three teenagers.
They're 14, 15, and 16.
And then I have a 22-year-old.
So my 22-year-old is now voting age, right?
And my 22-year-old gets his information from logging into sites and watching YouTube.
Now, here's the bad part of that, is when you log into Google, Yahoo, all of these different things, the first thing that comes up is how terrible Trump is.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like every meeting.
I see it every day.
Every day.
I don't have a computer, but I use my phone every day.
And I search everywhere every day.
And if Linda did have a right to complain, it would be me texting her at any hour of the day and night, seven days a week.
She would be right to complain about that, but I'm not telling her to do anything with it at that point.
It's when she gets back to work.
I want her to have it in her inbox.
Right.
I mean, but sorry, Linda.
He's bringing you up again.
Sorry, Tracy.
I'll forgive you this one time.
You know, I can't stand that, you know, every caller that Katie puts up only sucks up to you when it comes between.
Okay, first of all, stop crying like a liberal.
They're calling the Sean Hannity show.
So they've already admitted that.
But they don't put on the Sean Hannity like Hannity, you're right, and Linda's wrong.
You never get that call put up on the call.
You get like 100 of those a day.
I got Tracy.
Let me have Tracy.
She's the only one I have.
Please.
It's like a setup.
I think we have some secret deal going on.
I'm being conspiratorial here.
All right.
Well, Tracy, aren't you glad you called now?
No, but I want to know, Sean, like, what can we do in order to have Curtis Liwa go out?
I've never heard of him.
And he was saying, well, I'm famous for being a guardian angel.
And yet.
Curtis has been in the streets of New York, putting himself in harm's way, helping young people.
He's not been perfect.
I mean, nobody's perfect.
But he lives, eat, breathe, sleep.
Him and Mark Simone are just, they're going to, they will never leave New York.
Like Mark Simone swore to me, I'm going to come back.