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Biden's Prognosis - May 19th, Hour 2
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Every doctor I've spoken to and every man listening to this program, if you get regular checkups, you get what is known as a PSA test.
And over the years, you get a baseline for what your PSA is.
For example, some people, some friends of mine are a little bit higher than I am.
I happen to be like 0.9 to 1.1 as my baseline.
And one year, it had doubled, and almost immediately I had a biopsy because my doctor is one of my best friends.
He's like, we're not taking any chances with this.
And so when you get to this late stage and the fact that prostate cancer has metastasized, it is raising an awful lot of questions.
And every doctor that I know of, and I've spoken to many over the weekend, say that Biden was likely diagnosed with this cancer long before, you know, probably before 2020.
And every medical expert that I've talked to, you know, points to the, you know, a possible cover-up here.
Let's go to Dr. Zeke Emmanuel saying that he probably had prostate cancer at the start of his presidency in 2021, among other things.
Here's what he said.
Doesn't it take some time for prostate cancer to develop to a point where it would spread to the bones?
Oh, he's had this for many years, maybe even a decade, growing there and spreading.
That's right.
It's a little surprising.
I look back at the records and there's no evidence that when he got his health status and the medical records were released that he had a prostate-specific antigen.
Now, it is true that a lot of people recommend not doing a prostate-specific antigen after 70, but President Biden's been in public life a very long time.
He was vice president and had a lot of exams under 70.
And it is a little surprising to many of us oncologists that he wasn't diagnosed earlier.
You believe it is likely if this prostate cancer has spread to the bone that he could have had it for up to a decade.
But certainly it's likely, would it be fair to say, it's likely to have had this for at least several years?
Oh, more than several years.
He did not develop it in the last 100, 200 days.
He had it while he was president.
He probably had it at the start of his presidency in 2021.
Yes, I don't think there's any disagreement about that.
And almost without exception, every doctor that's being quoted in the media, quote, Dr. Howard Foreman is saying in a post on X, it's inconceivable this was not being followed before he left the presidency.
Gleason grade nine would have had an elevated PSA level for some time before the diagnosis.
Dr. Stephen Kwai flagged similar concerns, saying Biden's type of cancer is the easiest to diagnose when it first starts.
That's the PSA blood test shows that the rate of cancer cell growth for even the most aggressive form.
It is, you know, five to seven.
And it shows that the PSA blood test shows the rate of cancer cell growth.
And it's a five to seven year journey without treatment before it metastasizes, meaning it would be malpractice for this patient to show up and be first diagnosed with metastatic disease.
In May of 2025, he continued, it's highly likely he was carrying a diagnosis of prostate cancer throughout his White House tenure and the American people were not informed.
And I can go on quoting doctor after doctor after doctor.
And, you know, which raises questions of a possible cover up to to his own detriment here.
And, you know, most doctors that I've spoken to say most men will die with prostate cancer, but they won't die from prostate cancer.
Anyway, here to weigh in is a doctor and well, Congressman and Dr. Greg Murphy of North Carolina's third district.
Congressman, great to have you on the program.
You are a urologist.
You're an expert in this field.
Am I wrong?
Are they wrong in anything they're saying?
Well, I think there's some nuances that people are not mentioning.
Cancer does not appear overnight.
It's actually a normal function of the body that we develop cancer cells.
You have them floating in your body right now.
I have them floating in our body, in my body.
Our body attacks them and takes care of them.
It does take years for cancers to develop certain ones.
Sometimes the testicular cancer, for example, grows very, very quickly.
Prostate cancer, kidney cancer grows very, very slowly.
The real question is, when was this diagnosed?
Because, yes, he probably had it in his prostate.
He had cancer cells in his prostate probably at least for the last five years.
But that doesn't mean it was diagnosed.
That doesn't necessarily mean there was any cover-up.
I just want to try to be really, truly objective here, Sean, because it matters really when was the first biopsy done.
That really tells everything.
Thank you.
Was it something that he either got a PSA test or that the doctor didn't order it or the doctor didn't do a rectal examination or Biden refused it?
We have some doctors across this country now, and it's sad who are not doing both the PSA and the rectal examination if they're doing the PSA at all.
And so there are really a lot more variables.
It's not quite as cut and dry as I think some people are saying.
Biden could have said, you know, the doctor could have said, hey, you.
Are you saying that there would not have been any indication or there's a possibility there would not have been an indication with a PSA score, you know, rising somewhat precipitously, especially considering the number of years it takes to metastasize?
Yeah, but Sean, here's the one thing.
Most prostate cancers make a lot of PSA, and that's really the point of detection.
You have somebody with a PSA of 30, which they have a lot of cancer.
But I have seen patients die of prostate cancer because it is so aggressive that they basically die with a PSA of zero.
And let me explain that a little bit.
These high gleason scored cancers, the cells are very, very distorted.
They're not very much like regular prostate tissue cells.
So they oftentimes, not all the time, and actually the minority of the time, they don't make enough PSA.
So you can have somebody with a diagnosis of prostate cancer with a PSA of two, but you stick your, you do a rectal examination and they have a nodule.
I've even seen two patients over my career, and again, this is rare, who've died from metastatic prostate cancer who have undetectable PSAs.
So it is not without question that Biden had a PSA of two, two and a half, and his doctor did not do a rectal examination, and all of a sudden it showed up with disease in his pelvis or in his bone somewhere.
So it's just, it's not quite as black and white as some people are painting it.
We don't know the facts.
We don't know exactly what his PSAs were.
We don't know if he refused to do something or the doctor was negligent in pushing an intervention or a diagnosis or along the way.
Well, would it be fair to say that, and it's kind of hard to imagine knowing that the care that is given to a president, I was with President Trump all last week on his trip to the Middle East, and I can tell you there are doctors around him at all hours of the day and night.
They're on Air Force One.
They are wherever the president goes, there's an ability to have an operating room right where he is and on any location.
And I would imagine for a president in particular that they're getting the best medical care possible.
For you to say that one test that would be critical to ascertaining the truth about prostate cancer not given to him as part of his overall medical checkup seems inconceivable to me.
Am I wrong?
No, no, not at all.
But there's some people that don't recommend PSA screenings over age 75 or especially over 80.
And if somebody has an elevated PSA when they're 80 of maybe eight or nine, I generally don't do anything with it because we just watch it.
We follow it.
And the vast majority of those individuals, as you pointed out earlier.
Well, that's part of a treatment is, you know, what is it?
Careful watching and waiting, or I forget the exact terminology that you use.
Wait.
But you don't mean you don't necessarily have to do a biopsy to diagnose something.
But here's another crux of the matter is that, yeah, while you may not do PSA surveillance on a 75 or 80-year-old, you sure as hell should be doing it on an 82-year-old who's going to be running for the most powerful position in the world.
And so there are a lot of questions here that are not answered.
I think, again, going to the crux of the matter is when was the biopsy done?
It could have been done as late as five weeks ago because you said all of a sudden now it's quote hormone sensitive.
And the only way you can determine if a prostate cancer is hormone sensitive is to give them a medication and then after a month or so see if the PSA falls.
Because if the PSA doesn't fall, it doesn't mean it's sensitive to the hormone.
And that could literally have been just done five weeks ago.
Or could it have been done a couple years ago?
It's possible.
I just don't think we have anything that can prove that without looking at the records themselves.
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All right, we continue now with medical doctor, also Congressman Dr. Greg Murphy of North Carolina's 3rd District.
Let's talk about his prognosis that now that it's metastasized, we know to the bones and it's a very aggressive prostate cancer and a very dangerous one.
Based on what you can read, obviously you've not examined the former president.
What would you say, you know, the prognosis is for him?
You know, it just depends on a lot of different factors, how well he responds to hormone therapy.
Sean, I've operated on a patient.
He's probably, now it's 20 years, and he presented with bony disease in his pelvis.
And I did a hormonal intervention on him where he actually removed the testicles because that removes the testosterone.
And he's still alive today, some 20 years later.
But that's not the norm.
I've also seen patients who present with this pass away in six, eight weeks, three months.
The norm, though, is you do hormonal treatment, and they'll respond to that for a year and a half, sometimes two years, maybe even longer.
But then literally in the last 15 years, there have been so many new interventions and new medications.
I tell this story a lot that I used to have to go in and tell some patients that it is time to get their affairs in order.
But now I don't have to do that nearly as much with prostate cancer, that we have other drugs and other levels of drug that if this one fails, we try this next one.
If this one fails, we try this next one.
So he very well, again, depending upon how he responds to the hormone treatment or how long this has been going on, there's some new treatments now with radionuclear things that go in and they tag this PSA and they just go straight to the cancer cell and kill it directly.
It's a radionuclei.
I guess there's a reason for a lot of the suspicion.
And I'll even quote Van Jones, who worked with the Obama administration.
You know, he literally called the cover-up of Joe's cognitive decline, which was transparent to me and anybody with eyes to see, even before the 2020 election, it was not the same Joe Biden.
And had they loved him enough, they would never have allowed this to continue.
Well, I think this will go down as the greatest lie ever told to the American people.
And it will show as his failed presidency is also.
Everybody saw it.
This was the emperor's new clothes, if there ever was a great example.
And Jill Biden, more than anyone, being her education status and loving to go by the term, quote, doctor, should be the one most culpable in this entire scheme because she knew Joe.
She knew the depths that he was falling to.
And the fact that they lied, they lied, they lied.
And then they would fuss at people who brought it up.
I got attacked many times when I brought it up.
And I take care of a lot of older patients.
I still see patients, Sean.
And so I've seen them decline.
And it doesn't take, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see some of this stuff.
But this will go down, I believe, as the greatest lie ever told to the American people.
I was excoriated when I brought this up.
And then night after night on television and day after day on radio, I would just play him in his own words.
And it was obvious.
And it was obvious that they were hiding him from public view and that he wasn't able to do normal events like a president.
On the other hand, I watched Donald Trump work 17 straight hours without taking a break on the flight back after a pretty arduous trip in the Middle East.
He worked the entire time home.
He never stopped.
He was working the phones.
He was doing paperwork.
He was writing truth social.
The guy didn't stop except maybe to get a bite to eat.
Then he go right back to work.
You know if somebody's up to up for a job or not.
I would say Bernie Sanders is cognitively very strong.
And it was obviously obvious Joe wasn't.
But sad for him, I mean, I think that he was not served well by the medical doctors around him.
And that's a shame.
I would agree.
And, you know, somebody has questioned whether any type of treatment, if there has been treatment for this that'll lead to his cognitive decline, if he's been getting treatment quietly for the last two or three years, there are some medications that can lead to cognitive decline.
It's just really when was the diagnosis made?
And, you know, again, he's had prostate cancer for years.
There's no debating about that.
But until you proved it, rather than just say it was in his body rather than detected it is really the real question here.
Based on their history of covering up, I have my real suspicions.
I really do.
But we do appreciate your time.
Congressman and medical doctor Greg Murphy, North Carolina's 3rd District.
We appreciate you being with us, sir.
Great.
Have a good afternoon.
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Let me just follow up a little bit on this issue of Joe Biden.
And it's now hypocritical mass.
I mean, when you have the likes of Van Jones saying Democrats will be paying for Biden's cover-up for a long time, and I'm not being critical of Van because I think he saw it, but I think he was somewhat quiet about it.
I think people like him and David Axelrod were two of the people that were maybe kind of, you know, hinting around the edges, this guy's not up to this job.
But with that said, you know, now that this book came out, ironically, of all people, fake Jake Tapper.
I mean, you know, you're making fun of his stutter.
Nobody's ever talked about Joe Biden having a stutter.
Not that I can recall.
Not one prominent conservative that I can think of.
Maybe somebody did.
If they did, I don't know about it.
And it was obvious cognitive decline.
And when we first started talking about it, we got the crap kicked out of us, which is par for the course in my business.
That's fine.
And even in the end, for some people, they say, oh, they didn't know until the debate.
And you know what?
They're all lying.
They all saw it.
They all knew it.
They all covered it up.
They all didn't care because they all hated Trump more.
Here's what Van Jones said.
This is the emperor's new clothes playing itself out in real time.
Everybody knew, but everyone was afraid to say, except for David Axelrod for two years, that something was wrong here.
And so, you know, I was shocked.
I love Joe Biden.
I don't like him.
I love him.
I got a chance to work with him when I was a part of the Obama administration and loved him more every day.
I was shocked to see his condition when he came out, and so was the world.
And that wasn't the first time he was in that condition.
The book makes it very, very clear.
There are people who knew and said nothing.
And that is a crime against this republic.
And I think the Democrats are going to pay for a long time for being a part of what is now being revealed to be a massive cover-up.
But there are so many massive cover-ups.
And yes, it's a national security threat when a president is in cognitive decline.
And we survived it, but barely in my view.
Here is James Clyburn.
I never saw anything unusual of Biden's either.
I think he could have continued to perform as president.
This is delusional and just not truthful.
You know, the fact of the matter is I saw Biden often, but not as often as people seem to think.
I saw him, I talked to him on the telephone very often, and I never saw anything that I thought was outside of the ordinary.
So I never saw anything I thought was unusual.
Do you think that Joe Biden really would have been able to perform as president all the way through January 2029 when he would be 86?
Yes, I thought that back then.
I still think that, but I don't know that.
When people ask me, did I know this or did I know the other?
And the fact of the matter is, no, I didn't.
Now, we're finally getting some of the Robert Hur tapes.
Remember, Robert Hur had ascertained that Joe Biden would not be prosecuted because he would be come off as a forgetful old man who was, quote, came off as very nice, but very forgetful, didn't know much of anything.
And they covered up that tape, too.
This should have been released before the election.
But again, all part of a state-run legacy media mob cover-up, a deep state cover-up.
And it was, you know, like everything else involving Donald Trump, that the hating Trump was their number one priority.
And here's part of that.
This is Robert Haher asking Biden when he kept documents where he kept them, and he can't answer.
And then says it's around 2017 or 18 when Bo was deployed or is dying.
And he forgets when his son Bo died, and he forgets the year that he left office.
Now, I am sorry, but it gets to a point this is just not believable.
Bo Biden died in May of 2015.
He was 46 years old.
And listen to this as you hear Biden and these tapes.
So during this time, we were living in Chambers Road and there were documents related to the Ted Biden Center for the Biden for cancer folkshot.
What was your book?
Where did you keep papers that related to those things that you were actively working on?
Well, I don't know.
This is what?
2017, 18 time period?
Yes, sir.
Remember, in this time frame, my son is either been deployed or is dying.
And what was happening now, Month Bo dying, 2018, 2015, he died pretty much 2015.
Maybe it's 2015.
That's right.
Mr. President.
And what's happened in the meantime is that as and Trump gets elected in November of 2017, 16, 2016.
All right.
So 2017 here.
That's when he left office in January.
Okay.
But that's when Trump has sworn in.
And in 2017, Beau had passed his personal.
I mean, he was president of the United States of America.
This is a clear and present danger to our country.
They all knew they all covered up.
They knew the dirty dossier was bogus.
They used it anyway.
No reasonable prosecutor would prosecute, but they'll raid Mar-a-Lago.
They knew we had top secret classified documents in four different locations.
That's not equal justice, equal application of our laws.
It is one lie, one cover-up, one deep state maneuver after another against Trump.
This very, very scary that this has happened to our country.
And cleaning it up, I don't know if we can clean it all up in four years.
I know that a lot of issues came up involving, you know, for example, James Comey and everybody else.
Do you really believe that this 8647 was an accident?
Do you really believe that?
Because I don't.
All right, quick break as we continue.
800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, Greg Jarrett, at the top of the hour, we'll talk about James Comey, 86, quote, 47, just a mere accident.
Well, it's not his first accident.
We'll explain and what should happen on the other side.
And then later, Mario calls coming up as well.
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I will say one thing.
It's great to be home.
It really is.
I don't think the Middle East is for me.
I don't want to live there.
All right, as we continue along, Don Lake Ron Konkama.
Don, how are you?
Welcome aboard, sir.
Glad you.
Hey, Sean, welcome back home.
There's no rest for the weary as far as news is concerned.
Since you touched down, everything's gone on that.
Crazy.
I've been working all weekend, even though, and working and sleeping because I didn't get much sleep when I was overseas.
I bet the jet leg is tough to get over.
Listen, Sean, I have a question for you.
That historic trip through the Middle East with President Trump, there were so many special events, the receptions that Trump received, the deals with the Saudi government and the Syrian government and the surprise visit for our troops at the Qatar Air Base.
By the way, I was at that.
The president mentioned me.
I was backstage at the time, and he thought I was in the crowd.
But I went to all of it, and that was the thing.
I was kind of, I get up, and because we were seven hours ahead, all the days' events I went to, and then it was late at night.
You're in the White House bubble when you're traveling with Air Force One, and then I would leave to go do radio and TV.
And then my workday began, even though it was a full-on workday leading up to that, which I was honored to be a part of and cover and be able to share with all of you and try and get on the air as often as I could.
The only reason I wasn't on Thursday is that the equipment didn't arrive in time because there's a press plane and that plane follows the president, got there too late for us to set up and do the show on Thursday.
And then Friday was a travel day back.
And we landed around 9.30.
I would just say all of it.
And what's emerging is a Trump doctrine that is far different than I think people fully, completely understand.
It was a big deal when the president said at all three stops that he wants these countries to join the Abraham Accords.
People kept saying, I noticed writing back here, well, why isn't Israel included in the trip?
Well, the one world leader that President Trump has talked to and met with the most is Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu.
But it's bigger and it's deeper than just, I mean, the amount of money that we're talking about and commitments is in the trillions of dollars when all is said and done.
And that's going to be good for the American economy.
But also, I do believe that they are getting to the point where all of these countries, and this happened in Trump's first term, are aligned against Iranian hegemony.
That is a fact.
And I think that they view that the person that will keep Iran in line is Donald J. Trump.
And they have put all their chips in the middle of the table and said they want to be in business with the U.S.
And I think with that, now you have to trust but verify they've got to reject and they're committing to reject their radicalism or turning a blind eye towards radicalism.
That will be shown over time and that they want to build out their economies and diversify beyond oil.
There's no doubt that that's all true.
I got to say thank you to my crew on radio, my crew on TV.
Everybody worked so hard to make all of this happen.
It's not easy to do these long trips.
We've done them before.
We'll do them again.
But it's a heavy lift for my team and they have the best attitude about it.
Even Linda had a good attitude about it.
Right, Linda?
Yeah, sure.
That was not the most.
Well, you kind of had a good attitude about it.
I was nice to you.
There were a lot of things behind the scenes that were really frustrating.
But it's always frustrating.
Singapore, Vietnam, Helsinki.
I mean, you've done all these trips.
None of them are easy, but certainly worthwhile.
And then you're like, why don't you just take the week off and go on vacation?
That's not the point.
The point is.
You never said that.
That's just what you heard.
No, but you kind of said, don't you want to do this?
I said, go do this trip.
It's magnanimous.
You know, it's a once-in-a-lifetime.
You're on Air Force One with the president.
It's something that, you know, no one is ever going to, it's not a regular thing.
You know, regular people don't do this.
Well, but what good is it if I can't share it with my audience?
That's the only reason I'm there is because of them.
So the whole idea is to share it with them.
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By the way, it's not the first time Comey has this little game that he plays with shells, which has not really been widely reported.
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