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The Iran Threat - May 9th, Hour 2
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, we'll be reporting next week.
I will not be on the air.
I'll be in flight with the president, headed over to Riyadh in Saudi Arabia, and we'll spend a day there, broadcast radio and TV Tuesday from Saudi Arabia.
Hopefully, assuming technology works, which I expect it fully will.
We've done it from Helsinki in Singapore and Vietnam.
I don't know why it wouldn't work there, but then we will, the second day, day two, will be in Doha in Qatar, and day three will be in the UAE in Abu Dhabi.
Linda's missing out on the trip.
She's very upset.
He feels that we've neglected her.
But she, you do not stop it.
I do.
In fact, I'm going to dress up and cover my hair just for fun at home.
Okay.
Okay.
International incident, not a good idea.
I'm just saying, just a thought.
Anyway, now, one of the big issues in the region that I'm sure will be discussed in all three countries is the issue surrounding Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror.
The president has been very, very clear.
He'd prefer peace.
He doesn't want to have to take out Iran's nuclear sites, but he's also clear that Iran can have a nuclear weapon.
And I, for good reason, number one state sponsor of terror.
We saw they launched ballistic missiles.
They tried to get into Israel.
We know that they are funding Hamas and Hezbollah, and they are funding the Houthis and Islamic Jihad, and they are just fomenting terror all throughout the region.
What is interesting and what happened in Trump's first term that very few people talk about, no great success, I think, on his part, never got credit for it, is he was able to create an alliance because of the sanctions that were so effective in bringing Iran to the brink of bankruptcy.
You might remember all the student protests taking place at the time.
A lot of that was financially related because Donald Trump cut off their oil sales and then Joe Biden became president and turned a blind eye towards the sanctions that were working.
And, you know, now they've become rich and they're using that money to foment terror there and around the globe in the entire region.
But they can't get a nuclear weapon.
Now, the breakout time, according to public reportings, is they are at 60% enrichment.
To get to 60 to 90% is a matter of a couple of weeks.
And 90% is weapons grade enrichment.
Here's the president saying he doesn't want to bomb Iran.
I want them to be successful.
And by the way, I share his sentiment.
So likewise, we're trying to work on Iran to get that solved without having to get into any bombing, as we say, big bombing.
I don't want to do that.
I want them to work with you.
I want them to be very successful.
Then the president went on to reiterate what he has now said many, many times, is they cannot have nuclear weapons, that it won't happen on his watch, and that if need be, he will take the action and lead the action.
He was asked whether or not it would be a coalition with Israel.
He said, no, we will lead that effort.
The president also said if Iran ever tries to retaliate against us, they will be obliterated.
Here's what he said.
They cannot have a nuclear weapon.
With me, it's very simple.
Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
We don't want to be tough on Iran.
We don't want to be tough on anybody, but they just can't have a nuclear weapon.
Why say that you're unhappy to sign it if it's Iran and their proxies who have threatened to retaliate against you and your team by killing you guys for taking out solar money?
Well, they haven't done that, and that would be a terrible thing for them to do, not because of me.
If they did that, they would be obliterated.
That would be the end.
I've left instructions.
If they do it, they get obliterated.
There won't be anything left.
And they shouldn't be able to do it.
And Biden should have said that, but he never did.
Good points on all fronts.
Ali Reza Jafar Zardeh is the deputy director of the National Council of Resistance of Iran.
He's the author of The Iran Threat, an outspoken Middle East Expert.
Sir, welcome to the program.
Thank you for being with us.
Thank you so much, Sean.
Always a pleasure to be on your show.
Well, we know the Iranian mullahs.
We know that they do seek nuclear weapons.
We know that they have their nuclear program spread all throughout a very large landmass, which is Iran, very deep into the ground.
The Israelis showed us that they were able to penetrate their air defense systems rather easily and take many of them out.
So militarily, we have the capability of wiping out those sites and probably their refineries, which would bankrupt them, and I would say would lead to regime change.
However, the president's giving them a choice.
He's saying, I don't want to do that.
I'd rather you be successful.
The question now is, what will the Iranians do?
Well, first of all, speaking about the nuclear weapons program of Iran, this is a tool for the survival of the Iran regime.
That's why they have spent some $2 trillion over the past three decades.
And they have expanded their nuclear weapons program much further than when we first exposed the nuclear sites in Natanz and Iraq, which triggered the IAA inspections of Iranian nuclear sites.
The program was in the original early stages, but the Europeans got to rush to help the regime.
They gave them what they wanted.
They legitimized the nuclear weapons program of Iran.
The JCPOA made it even worse, allowing them to expand the program, having several enrichment facilities, but also we exposed a lot of other nuclear sites that deal with the weaponization part of the program that the regime said this is off-limits, did not allow the IAEA, and then they made this missile program as though this is totally unrelated to the nuclear weapons program.
It's not.
This is part and parcel of building a nuclear warhead.
And that's why this regime has never been so advanced in terms of the nuclear weapons program.
But at the same time, even though they have been at the negotiating table before many years ago and also at the JCPOA, this time they're extremely weak.
They have lost all the leverage they have had.
They have lost the clout in the region.
Their biggest ally in Syria, Assad, is gone.
Their proxies, Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen, and Shia Milishias in Iraq.
I can give you a list.
They've been shattered.
But the most important weakness of the regime is inside the country.
The people of Iran have rejected this regime.
There have been nine rounds of major uprisings in Iran since 2018.
People chanting death to the dictator, death to the oppressor, be the Shah or the Supreme Leader.
They don't want any kind of dictatorship.
The same way that they got rid of the Shah, which was dictator, that the single party rule was corrupt.
They're doing even more about against the Ayatollah.
They say, you know, in this century, the people of Iran are educated.
They want freedom.
They want democracy.
They will not settle for that.
So that's where you want to count on.
And that's why this regime has no leverage at the negotiating table.
This is the time you want to go for the win, not just simply punting it, not just limiting certain aspects of the trouble that the regime is making, whether it's nuclear, the terrorism, the warmongering and all of that.
And that's why, and I agree fully that, you know, we're not talking about war.
There's no need for foreign boots on the ground or appropriation of money.
The people of Iran are already the biggest ally of the Western nations because they want the same thing.
They want an end not only just to the nuclear weapons program, which is to the detriment of the people of Iran, but also they want an end to their terrorism.
They want to end sending the money and resources to everywhere else, but the people of Iran, you know, Iran sits on the second largest oil and gas reserves combined in the world.
Yet 80% of the Iranian population live below the poverty line.
Where does the money go?
It goes to fill the pocket of the clerics, to empower the revolutionary guards, to fund all these terror groups in the region.
That's why the Iranian nation, and not just intellectuals, the entire nation has risen against this regime.
When we have these recent uprisings in Iran, it was mostly the poor, the deprived, the workers, the people, you know, smaller towns and cities who used to be the bedrock of support for the mullahs, but now the whole thing has changed.
This is the new reality of Iran.
And we were so encouraged when the president said that no enrichment, we're not going to accept any level of enrichment.
We said, you know, this is exactly what we've been calling for.
You need to shut down the entire nuclear weapons program of the Iran regime.
There's nothing legitimate.
There's nothing peaceful about it, including their missile program.
And you see the people of Iran, on your side, they're the biggest ally.
Change will come from within Iran.
All the rest of the world really need to do is to recognize the right to overthrow the mullahs, recognize the right to confront the revolutionary guards.
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All right, we continue now with Ali Reza Jafazarde, and he is the deputy director of the National Council of Resistance of Iran.
The one thing that you said that really stands out to me is this will not be Iraq.
There will not be boots on the ground.
It seems to me that there are two major targets in Iran, take out the nuclear facilities.
And you have two options.
You can simultaneously take out their refineries, which is the source of all their money, or you can take them out and say, if you retaliate, your refineries are next.
At that point, you would think that common sense would prevail.
At that point, they would accept defeat.
However, the radicalization of the mullahs and those that believe in the caliphate and convert or die, you're not exactly the type of people that I would expect you can reason with.
So while maybe, you know, everything you're saying makes total sense, and I agree with your assessment too, that this is not about the people of Iran.
They're living miserable lives and they're being treated horribly and they're living in poverty.
They should be one of the wealthiest countries on the face of the earth.
They're not.
However, they can't battle the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and Quds forces.
That's impossible.
So the question is, what will the Mullahs decide to do?
Because the Americans will insist on no enrichment, no nuclear facilities.
If they want a nuclear power plant, they could follow the lead.
And Marco Rubio was clear about this.
They'll have the rods available for nuclear power that will be given to them.
They can trade for that.
But short of that, there will be no enrichment within that country.
Now, they don't have a long time to decide here.
They really are working on the clock because they've gotten so close to the possibility of weapons-grade uranium.
Absolutely.
You know, let the mullahs make a decision for themselves and decide which choice they want to take.
On this side, what you want to do, you want to be absolutely firm, making it very clear under no circumstances, no agreement that would allow any level of enrichment is going to be acceptable.
Now, the biggest leverage the outside world now has is the organized resistance in Iran.
They are confronting the revolution guards on a day-to-day basis.
Just in the past one year, there were some 3,000 acts of resistance and confrontation between the younger people, the organized resistance inside Iran, you know, burning down the pictures of the mullahs, even attacking some of those revolution guards centers, showing the people of Iran that the mullahs are not 10 feet tall.
They're vulnerable.
They can be defeated.
This organized resistance has put out a platform known as the 10-point plan for the future of Iran that says, you know, there should be separation of religion and state, gender equality, freedom of religion, freedom of political parties, and non-nuclear Iran and peace in the Middle East.
That platform has tremendous support on the hill.
You know, the leader of the movement is actually a woman, Mrs. Rajavi.
What does it tell you about, you know, the opposition against the mullahs, who are misogynists, is led by women who are saying that, you know, we're going to bring down the mullahs and we decide, you know, for our own future.
There are 4,000 parliamentarians around the world who have supported this 10-point plan, including the House majority, both Democrats and Republicans.
If there is one issue that you can line up both Democrats and Republicans, it's actually this one.
And that's a huge opportunity for the president, for even European nations to side with this organized resistance who are determined to bring about change in Iran.
This regime is not what it was.
It's weak, it's vulnerable, and the resistance has never been so powerful.
This is the same movement that exposed all the major nuclear sites of Iran.
You know, that's, you know, almost every single site that the IA is inspecting was exposed by this movement.
This is the movement that has become the main target of terrorism of the Iran regime, the main target of the killings inside Iran.
But at the same time, they are the engine for change inside the country.
It's a huge asset.
That's where you want to invest.
That's what we want to look at if you don't want to have boots on the ground, if you don't want to spend money and you don't want to go the Iraq route.
Well, I hope you're right.
And it would be so much better for the world if they would understand that they can't win this battle and they're not going to achieve their goal.
But I don't know if we get there, but certainly a long protracted war is not going to be in the equation here.
This is going to be quick and done and over and finished before anybody can blink their eye, in my view.
Anyway, we really appreciate it.
Ali Reza, thank you so much for being with us.
We appreciate your time today.
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I am somewhat conflicted about playing what I'm about to play of Senator Kennedy in light of the ongoing, seemingly never-ending discussion about Linda, her faith, backsliding, not understanding, you know, forgive us as we forgive, you know, forgive 70 times seven.
We should love God with all your heart, mind, body, and soul, and your neighbor as yourself.
Neighbor, I think more broadly means everybody.
And nowhere in the Bible does it talk about having a hate list, which Linda clings to like manna from heaven.
There's a little bit of trepidation inside of me to even fuel this fire.
But when it comes to our favorite senator, and that would be Senator Kennedy from Louisiana, Louisiana, I can't help myself.
Here's what he said.
I don't hate anybody.
I don't.
I look for grace wherever I can find it.
And when I say my prayers, one of the things I ask my maker for is, please, God, don't let me hate.
Because sometimes it's hard here in Washington.
You know, there's been many a morning when I've gotten up in my overpriced Capitol Hill apartment and I'm walking over here to the Capitol and I give myself a pep talk.
I talk to myself.
I say, Kennedy, today you're going to follow Jesus.
And by 10 o'clock, I still want to follow Jesus, but I also want to slap the hell out of somebody.
Oh, boy.
Now, is that in the Bible, Sean?
Does it say to slap somebody upside the head?
No, it actually says to turn the other cheek.
The Bible says to turn the other cheek.
Now, are you turning the other cheek with a good slap?
Because that could be in terms of the word.
No, he says, but notice what he said.
He says, I want to slap somebody, but I don't hate.
He also said, I don't hate anybody.
Now, there's a difference because you have a hate list, and there are people that you will never forgive.
And that's very different.
He gets up every morning.
He says his prayers.
If you listen closely, ask God Almighty for the grace to, you know, please, when I pray, I said, please, God, don't let me hate.
I don't think you get up and say that prayer every day, do you?
I sure do.
Every single day, I'm like, Lord, give me the strength.
I'm just asking.
Do you specifically ask not to hate?
No, I just ask him to give me the strength to do his will.
He specifically asked not to hate.
I just asked him to give me the strength to do his will.
Okay, his will is not to have his will.
I'm telling you what his will is.
And you know it.
You're just being obstinate and stubborn.
And I don't know if it's a bit for you.
Listen, you cling on to your hate list.
I do.
I hate pedophiles.
I hate people who hurt animals.
I hate people who murder animals.
The understandable, you know, indignant when Jesus turned over the tables of money changers in his father's house, there was righteous indignation.
There is a difference between righteous indignation and the raw emotion of hatred.
You claim to have.
I do hate my viewers.
I do.
No question.
But that's not the hate list we're talking about.
That's separate.
You're kind of obfuscating your, you have specific people by name that you won't forgive, and you have a hate list.
Yes.
You're backsliding.
No, I'm not backsliding.
Where in the Bible does it say it's okay to have a hate list?
Senator Kennedy acknowledges he should not do that.
You don't agree with that.
Do you think Jesus just is okay with it?
I think Jesus recognizes that a strong-willed individual can look at what's wrong and they can say, I can look past it.
And then other people who may be strong-willed, but in your words, obstinate, and they're not able to forgive those people.
I am one of those people.
I'm more of an eye for an eye.
I'm not a turn.
Do you want to change?
Do you have the word repentance from the Latin means to change one's heart?
Do you have any desire to change your heart and have this and like Senator Kennedy, pray that God will not let him hate?
Do you have any desire to do that?
I do pray to do God's will.
Do you pray that prayer?
I'm asking specific.
You see, you obviously get like a liberal when we get on this topic.
I do not do that prayer.
Would you ever think about it to change my heart and forgive people who rape kids?
No.
No, but I'm not talking about the kids and not talking about the pedophiles, not talking about the people who are not.
Well, some of the people on my list are people that I know though.
I'm talking about the people that you just hate because you don't like them.
I don't have anybody that I hate because I don't like them.
Everybody on my list has done a major infraction.
Yeah, but they're people with major infractions.
Oh, my gosh.
They're not people like I was like, I don't like her shirt.
I hate her.
That's not happening.
That's not what's happening.
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What's up, John?
How are you?
Sean, a couple of things.
First, Trump needs to just bypass Congress on this tips and taxes thing.
Tips are gifts.
They are not earned income.
If they were earned income, they would be mandated by law.
Tipping is voluntary.
And when you are given a gift, the receiver does not pay taxes.
All he has to do is tell the IRS commissioner or the Secretary of the Treasury both work directly for him.
You will, from now on, recognize tips as gifts, and that's the end of it.
And let Congress look like the useless fools that they are.
Second.
You know, most people, when they tip, I think, are kind of like me.
You get your bill, you put it on your credit card.
And in my case, I usually use an Amex card or whatever.
And okay, and then I put a tip on there.
But I always carry a ton of cash around with me.
I'm pretty old school.
And most people, my kids, especially, like, they're shocked at the size of a wad of cash I have.
And I have this constant battle with them.
Do you have any cash with you?
I tell them to bring cash with them all the time.
They don't listen to their father.
It frustrates me.
And then inevitably, I take money out of my pocket.
Always have cash with you.
I tell them all the time, and they won't listen to me.
But I always carry cash so I can tip people whether or not they report it or not is on them.
I'm not telling them, I'm, you know, I, but I believe in tipping people for service because I've worked in the service industry.
I'm actually a pretty good tipper.
Wouldn't you, Linda?
You vouch for that.
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah.
What I tip.
I usually, you know, I do because I think of my father.
My father waited, you know, tables on weekends and he needed the money.
And I know how hard they work.
And I did it myself.
And I tended a bar and I was a cook and a dishwasher.
I know people get sick of hearing that.
But yeah, you're right about that.
It's a gift.
They shouldn't have to pay taxes on us.
It's just the government, they'll take the gold out of your teeth when you're dead.
It's unreal.
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Lenny, how are you, sir?
I'm great, Mr. Hannity.
It's an honor to talk to you, a longtime listener.
And that's the reason I'm calling.
Thank you.
Yes, I was listening to you yesterday, and that young gentleman that went to Duquesne.
Yes, sir.
And talking about how they were being trying to get indoctrinated, and I have very the same story, except 1977, I'm a transfer student from Palm Beach Junior College going to the University of Hawaii.
And when I was in high school, we had a course, Americanism versus Communism.
Plus, I had a lot of Cuban friends that came over on the Mario boat.
So we all knew that my parents are from Ukraine, escaped Russia during the Revolution.
So we're very keen on what communism is.
They made me take a political science class to transfer.
And the minute I get in there, the professor starts going, never mind this Kennedy speech.
Ask not what you can do for your country and all this.
He goes, that's a bunch of baloney.
They should do everything for you.
Just like they say, womb to the tomb.
And I was just like, are you kidding?
And we just like you said, I got into some good arguments with him.
You know, I went through the same thing.
Now, did you get punished with a far worse grade than you deserved, like I did?
I would say yes to that.
But the thing was, is I did not care at that point.
I was going to stand up for what I believed in and what I knew.
Yeah, but you know, you and I were in a position where it didn't matter to us.
But, you know, there are a lot of kids that these grades matter, especially if they want to get in a law school or get a master's degree or a doctorate or a medical school.
And my advice to them is as long as you know it's indoctrination and you play the game and you don't challenge it and you know the truth in your heart, there's really no shame in my mind just playing the game, getting your grade, getting out of that classroom and moving on to the next phase of life, which is real life, because that's not real life.
It just isn't.
And most of those, half the classes, more than half the classes you take in college are a complete, utter waste of time.
They really are.
I agree.
Yeah, I agree.
All right, my friend.
Well, God bless you.
I appreciate your call, but you're dead on accurate.
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Let's say hi to James in California.
What's up, James?
How are you liking it out there?
How's Gavin working for you?
I try not to pay attention to the man, to be honest.
Pretty hard.
He likes to get a lot of attention.
He does.
He likes to, you know, I imagine he practices in the mirror every day going, hey, good looking.
But I called to a desperate retort for you at a point about Biden.
My desperate retort is, yes, the good book does say to turn the other cheek, but it doesn't necessarily say what to do if they hit that one, too.
I didn't quite hear everything you said.
Can you repeat that?
Sorry, I said, yes, the good book does say to turn the other cheek, but it does not say what to do if they hit that one, too.
All right.
You want to feed this Linda interpretation of the Bible, which is just, it's not biblical.
That's all there is to it.
It is not.
And I know her hearts, I know she's a good person in our heart of hearts.
You know, how can you love really a pedophile?
I mean, you just can't.
And she's right in certain examples, but that's not, she knows that's not the list that I'm talking about.
So she's kind of obfuscating the real argument.
You know, people say, oh, these self-righteous, and there are self-righteous Christians.
And there are people that are very judgmental.
I'm not particularly judgmental.
I take people where they are in their life.
I don't believe in proselytizing.
I'm not in the business of, I'm not a minister.
I'm not qualified.
However, if people ask me about why my faith is important to me, I will explain it to them and the impact it's had on my life.
Like, I'm very open about Catholicism set a really strong foundation for me in my life.
Although I'm not a Catholic anymore, and I gave that explanation, went into great specificity and detail yesterday.
However, I love the mass.
And those formative years, 12 years in Catholic schools, played a big part in shaping my faith and life.
I'm just non-denominational at this point.
I'll give you the last word.
Sorry, my other question was: where did the Democrats get their information from?
Or is Biden trying to go for that top billing at your veterans and punchlines?
Because here wasn't punchlines.
Because he's a stinky person.
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Linda, you're going to come down for it or no?
Of course I'm coming.
I'm going to be in the front row.
You're not coming down for this.
I'm coming down.
Be like, tell me another one, Sean.
Come on, Hannity.
Come on, Hannity.
Be funny.
Or actually, I guess maybe you're not funny, right?
You're the one giving the patriotism stuff and then he's making fun of you.
Oh, no.
Well, you watch me at the Fox Nation Awards.
You know what I do.
That's true.
You were pretty funny there.
All right.
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All right.
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You want them to have protection.
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