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If you want to be a part of the program, every Democrat I know, they're like, please, Joe, Joe Biden, go away.
We can't take it.
Now, reports that they might get $30 million to write a book together.
Any publisher that offers them $30 million, I promise you, they're going to lose tens of millions of dollars.
Guaranteed.
There's not going to be a massive demand for what Joe and Dr. Jill have to say.
And as evidenced by the appearance that they've now been making, they showed up on the View.
It was not good.
Here's Joe saying he wasn't surprised that Trump won over Kamala.
And of course, he goes back to the final closing arguments, racism, sexism, Nazi, fascist, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini.
You know, it's just the same talking points.
It's like, okay, you stick with that, even though it proved to be the biggest failing closing argument in the history of the country.
Listen.
Why do you think the vice president lost and were you surprised?
I wasn't surprised, not because I didn't think the vice president was the most qualified person to be president.
She is.
She's qualified to be president of the United States of America.
I was surprised.
I wasn't surprised because they went the route of the sexist route all the whole route.
I mean, this is a woman, she's this, she's that.
I mean, it really, I've never seen quite a successful and a consistent campaign undercutting the notion that a woman couldn't leave the country and a woman of mixed race.
Nobody, I can't think of one instance of any prominent person ever talking about race or sex, and they keep clinging to this like manna from heaven.
It just makes no sense.
Anyway, and this was a very bizarre moment where Joe and Jill were asked about Joe's cognitive abilities.
The interesting part of the answer is Jill Biden has to step in because Joe is having a brain fart as per usual, and it was awkward and quite uncomfortable.
Since you left office, there have been a number of books that have come out deeply sourced from Democratic sources that claim in your final year there was a dramatic decline in your cognitive abilities in the final year of your presidency.
What is your response to these allegations, or are these sources wrong?
You are wrong.
There's nothing to sustain that.
Number one.
Number two, you know, think of what we were left with.
We left with a circumstance where we had an insurrection.
I started.
Not since the Civil War.
And so we went to work and we got it done.
And, you know, one of the things that, well, I'm telling you.
Well, and Alyssa, you know, one of the things I think is that the people who wrote those books were not in the White House with us.
And they didn't see how hard Joe worked every single day.
Joe worked really hard.
I think he was a great president.
And if you look at things today, if you look at things today, give me Joe Biden anytime.
Yeah, give us those open borders that allow murderers, rapists, known terrorists, cartel members, gang members into the country.
Why didn't the Bidens ever pick up a phone and call any of the victims that were murdered or raped or victims of violent crime because they let all these unvetted illegals into the country?
Yeah, I'll take Donald Trump over him every single day.
Now, we've got another brain fart moment.
Let me play that.
All the projects, the benefits.
How do you lead the world without having the best infrastructure?
How do you lead the world without having the best health care enrollment?
How do you lead the world without having the best education system?
How do you lead the world and have that done?
Huh?
Can somebody interpret that?
Anyway, one person that was outspoken, and those of us that were early on, we took a lot of heat and a lot of criticism for pointing out the obvious was Miranda Devine.
Not only did she break the whole laptop from hell story down with the best-selling book, Laptop from Hell.
By the way, the president plugged it the other day, but also author of The Big Guy, How a President and His Son Sold Out America.
Anyway, great to have you back, Miranda.
I'm so infuriated by this ongoing lie by them, even though the people that were in the White House around them are now showing a little bit of honesty.
Not a lot, just a little bit.
Yes, it's a limited hangout, Sean, and it's designed to sort of get them, get the media off the hook, get Joe Biden's handlers off the hook.
And Joe Biden plays into it beautifully.
I mean, it was just absurd to see him there on the view being treated again with kid gloves.
There he is, denying that there was any cognitive decline, and he couldn't even articulate that.
He had to have his wife, Dr. Jill, sitting there beside him, had to interrupt and actually tell her own lies about it.
Oh, no one worked harder than Joe.
Does she think that we can't remember that he had lids, early breaks, every single day?
They had lids some days at 9 a.m.
Yes, that's right.
And he was always off to Delaware.
Nobody had more holidays in the presidency than Joe Biden.
I think he spent half his entire presidency on vacation.
We've seen him on the beach.
Donald Trump keeps on joking about him lying on the beach completely comatose.
And that's the sort of enduring image of Joe Biden that we have in his presidency.
But even though he didn't work hard, he certainly managed to do enormous damage.
And I think JD Vance was spot on when he said about Joe Biden's latest interview that, you know, if we had done the opposite of what Joe Biden did on foreign policy, we'd have the most successful administration in the world because he just did untold damage.
And for Joe Biden and Joe Biden, they're to say what a great job he did.
And the media to allow him to get away with it is so sick.
But here they are giving themselves awards at the White House Correspondents Association for belatedly after he'd left office or just before, you know, saying, oh, well, there might have been something wrong with his brain.
Hello.
I mean, every single day, Sean, you were better than anybody at chronicling Joe Biden's cognitive disabilities.
Night after night, you would play videos of his latest verbal stumble, his physical stumbles, his complete ineptness.
And, you know, I don't know why, but the New York Times, Washington Post, we did it at the New York Times.
At the New York Post, we chronicled his problems.
But at these other left-wing organizations, CNN, MSNBC, they said we were running cheap fake videos and that we were lying.
You know, and it was worse than that, especially when I saw it very early on.
You were somebody that saw it very early on.
We were not shy about talking about it and pointing it out to people.
It was worse than that.
I mean, excoriate.
Who are you to say?
You're not a doctor?
I never said I was a doctor.
You don't have to be a doctor to see that somebody, you know, is cognitively not the same person they once were.
No, and physically.
I mean, the way he used to walk was so...
Oh, my gosh, the shuffle.
The shuffle.
And so they had to actually get all his staffers to come out and shield him from the cameras when he walked to the helicopter across the grass at the White House.
I mean, it was such a cover-up.
It was so fake.
And now they're coming out with a few books, with a few people saying, oh, you know, there was a little problem.
And there's Joe Biden saying, oh, none of those people were in the White House with us.
Well, I'm sorry.
One of them was Ron Clain.
I was going to say, Ron Klain, he wasn't in the White House, really?
Yeah, Ron Klain, Joe Biden's long-term chief of staff, who said that Joe Biden forgot during the debate preparation that he was president of the United States.
He thought he was president of NATO.
I mean, it would be sad if Joe Biden wasn't such a malicious and lying and destructive president and so vain that he thought that he could run for office again after what a disaster he'd made of the border, two wars, record inflation.
There wasn't a single part of the American economy and American public life that he didn't destroy.
And I think that's the mark of the man is that he's got the reverse Midas touch.
Everything he touches turns to dust.
Quick break.
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When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
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Miranda Devine is with us.
In 100 days, Donald Trump proved that Joe Biden was lying.
Number one, that the border was secure and the border was closed and that he couldn't act or get any help without the assistance of Congress.
Donald Trump did it single-handedly.
You know, obviously with people helping him, but he empowered ICE.
He empowered Homeland Security to do their job.
And now we're down next to zero illegal immigrants crossing into our country.
We're trying to deport them.
The left is fighting for the likes of Obrego Garcia.
If you want to explain that to me, please.
I can't figure that out for the life of me.
But on the economy, on Ukraine, on foreign policy, Gaza, the Middle East, everything this man did was a disaster.
And now Donald Trump has to clean up that mess.
He's doing it.
But he certainly got no help from the previous administration.
He's undoing the damage that they did.
The border being probably the biggest preventable national security disaster in our history.
Yes.
And look, Donald Trump's doing a brilliant job in trying to unravel these messes.
And I don't think anyone would have thought that he would have been so successful on the border so quickly.
And all it took was presidential will.
As he said, it didn't take legislation.
It took a new president.
It was executive orders and it was empowering ICE to do what it has to do and having a brilliant guy like Tom Holman in charge.
And so it was a deliberate strategy by Joe Biden and the Democrats.
They flagged it before the election that they were going to open the border and bring in hordes of people from the third world to come here.
Of course, they wanted to come here and have a better life.
You can't blame them.
But embedded among them were criminal gangbangers who have set about raping and pillaging throughout the country.
And Donald Trump is getting opposed by Democrat lawyers and Democrat judges in even just doing the beginning of the job of deporting all the 20 million or so that came here, just getting rid of the most illegal, worst criminals, the worst of the worst.
And he's being blocked by these left-wing Democrat lawless judges.
It is absolutely outrageous.
I mean, Joe Biden and Mayorkis never had any due process or abided by the law when they brought these people in.
And yet Donald Trump is expected to have, as he says, like a trial for everyone that he wants to deport.
In other words, we can't deport them.
I think Donald Trump is in the middle of the day.
Let me ask you a question.
For all these people that covered it up, I think there needs to be an investigation because that was a national security threat if you have a compromise president and they were protecting him.
Totally agree.
I don't think that they should get away with it because then they'll do it again.
The Democrats knew that Joe Biden was cognitively addled before he ran for office the first time.
We saw it.
You saw it.
I was in Iowa and New Hampshire in January of 2019 and the public saw it.
He was so awful that he needed a teleprompter to give the most basic stump speech that every other candidate in the Democratic Party could do in their sleep.
He was really, could not even give a speech without Joe Biden standing up next to him, propping him up.
And yet what they did was they rigged the polls in South Carolina and made sure that, and then they persuaded Budajaj and Amy Klobuchar to stand aside and do the right thing so that Joe Biden could be their candidate because they knew that they had to pretend to have a moderate candidate to beat Donald Trump.
And that's what Joe Biden pretended to be.
And he turned out to be the most radical sort of putty in the hands of the far left when he was president because he's also lazy and a liar and incapable.
So he basically checked out, did all the vain things that, you know, made him feel good, grifted with his family, having their private jet, having Camp David as their private party home and sort of leveraging the power of the presidency to get all sorts of freebies.
But he, as far as the actual work of the presidency, he outsourced that to the far left and they set about systematically dismantling this country and making it extremely difficult for any Republican president that came after him.
And thank goodness that president is Donald Trump who just manages to find creative ways to go about fixing things.
I have faith that he will be able to fix a lot of it, but he only really has two years before the midterms.
And if the Republicans do lose Congress or lose the House, then I think that we'll see the same thing that happened in Donald Trump's first term.
He'll be impeached and the Democrats will go about obstructing him.
They do it much better than the Republicans.
They are very good at obstructing a Republican president.
Well, we appreciate you, Miranda Devine.
You're a national treasure.
Thank you so much for being with us.
Don't forget Miranda's two best-selling books, Laptop from Hell, The Big Guy, How a President and His Son Sold Out America.
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It's called the Punchlines and Patriots tour.
We begin on Saturday, June 28th in Clearwater, Florida at Ruth Eckert Hall.
And then on Sunday, the day after the 29th, we'll be at the Broward Center for the Performing Arts in Fort Lauderdale.
Tickets went on sale 10 a.m. this morning.
Now, they did sell some tickets to members beforehand, but if you want the best seats, now's the time to get them on sale.
Mr. Phela, welcome, sir.
Glad you're with us.
Punchlines and Patriots.
Going to be a fun, fun night.
And I am already.
I know I'm going up against Dave Chappelle, Chris Rock combined here.
I know what I'm up against.
I know how great you are.
I've seen your stand-up routine.
But I am prepared to at least hold my own in light of your professionalism.
No, you're going to, we know the way this works.
You're going to crush, okay, you're Sean Hannity.
These people love you.
You've been doing live events your whole life.
And what you're going to realize, you keep telling me this, you know, oh, Jimmy, you're the comic.
But you're such a natural live performer and you miss it.
That's, you know, we keep leaving out why we're doing this.
We're doing this because before you became like so famous, you could be on a postage stamp.
Okay, you were.
Yeah.
How many shows were you doing a year, Elvis?
Were you doing 100 shows a year?
I didn't do 100.
There were years I did 65 or 70 for sure.
I mean, I was on the road a lot, and I will be honest, I miss it.
I love being around our audience.
It is the most satisfying thing to meet the people that give us this opportunity to talk on the radio and be on TV.
I'm very grateful to everybody.
Yeah, because we actually do have the coolest fans, meaning no one shows up to our bar events with blue hair and wants a guy to use the bathroom.
That's not the crowd.
If they do show up, they're going to be protesters.
And by the way, you love protests.
You love hecklers on your, I've seen how you handle hecklers.
God help them.
Bring it on.
Because the one thing people forget about hecklers is like, a heckler, like, you prepared as a comic to perform, to talk to a large room of people for an hour, hour and a half, if you're a comic, right?
But a heckler is only prepared to yell that one stupid thing at you.
That's usually true.
Talking, yeah.
They fall into it.
But then they get stupid and they say it over and over again.
You know, free to Palestine, free Palestine.
And the whole crowd is like, sit down and shut up or get the hell out of here.
You know what that happened to?
It's so funny, and he handled this so well.
It happened to Jerry Seinfeld.
They were yelling free Palestine stuff.
And he was like, you understand we don't shape foreign policy here at the comedy show, right?
That's a good.
Now, he's a good stand-up comic.
He's just different.
He's got a different pace than, say, we do.
I mean, we both have that little bit of New York flair in us.
Shot out of a cannon.
That's you and me.
But our audience is the best.
And yes, it's people who think, you know, when you watch the movie A League of Their Own, okay?
We know it for what it was, which was a sports league where the women could play baseball.
But the other crowd thinks there stands for one weird guy in a dress who wants to take ground balls.
You know?
Wasn't Rosie O'Donnell in that movie?
You know what's funny?
She was in that movie back then.
He was in that movie.
Gina Davis, I think, was in the movie, if I'm not mistaken.
If my memory serves me well, if I'm not Joe Biden, yeah.
Tom Egg, poor Joe Biden.
I'm sure you've talked about it all week on your show.
But if we're going to reopen Alcatraz, Jill should be the first inmate for elder abuse.
I mean, John, you should.
No, the people around him should be put in there for elder abuse.
They allowed this disaster to unfold.
They knew what was happening, and they didn't even love him enough to protect him and get him the hell out of there.
100% that's the case.
Everybody got used to living a certain way, and they were like, you know what, who cares if he doesn't know what's going on?
We do.
We're flying on Air Force One.
We're making good money.
And that's totally what it was.
And now they're talking about, you know, $30 million for her memoirs.
And by the way, if you think the price is high, you should meet her son.
But anyway.
That's a good point.
By the way, any publisher that gives them $30 million, I promise you they're losing tens of millions.
They're going to lose a fortune.
There's not a market for this.
Now, I hope there's a market for Punchlines and Patriots.
Again, June 28th, Saturday night, Clearwater, Ruth Eckert Hall.
Sunday, the 29th, Broward Center for Performing Arts in Fort Lauderdale.
And tickets just went on sale today.
And I'm excited to do this show with you.
When we started talking about the idea, and you, I'll tell you where it originated.
I hosted and was the MC of the Fox Nation Awards.
And I talked to you a little bit about it beforehand.
And then I did the routine.
And I kept looking at you.
I don't know why, but I was kind of like, and I figure if I can make Jimmy Phela laugh, I can make anybody laugh.
And because you're a tough crowd.
I mean, you're a professional.
So you're watching this in a professional capacity.
That's not what I do every day, but I love to make people laugh if I can.
Yeah, well, they knew that because it's so funny that when you're walking out of an event like the Patriot Awards, where I got to do stand-up and it was a great crowd, and it was a home crowd.
We're on Long Island.
I love that.
That's where I grew up, obviously, as did you.
And it's funny walking out of the Patriot Awards when you hear people go, he was really funny.
And I'm like, oh, thank you.
And they're like, no, no, we're talking about Hannity.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, okay.
That did not happen, but I appreciate the lie.
Thanks for lying.
They loved me.
They love me, but I'm not telling you, you did kill.
You were phenomenal.
And that's, again, I can't show up as a comic, okay?
You don't throw your name behind it if it ain't going to work.
It's going to crush.
Okay.
And I'm so excited because for these people, the biggest thing that we do and that we don't get to do enough of on TV is what we said earlier, is hang out with them and show them that we're the exact same people off camera that we are on.
Like we talk about things the way we talk about them because it's what we believe.
Oh, that's all true.
Except in this format, you could do it differently.
I do a fairly serious news and information show on radio and TV, right?
Certainly the personality comes out.
We were messing with Linda.
Linda and I are having this ongoing discussion about whether or not she's backsliding in her faith because she has a hate list, and there's nowhere in the Bible that I see you should hate thy neighbor.
I don't find that.
Hold on to you.
You have a hate list too?
No, no, not at all.
I said hold on because I don't have a hate list either.
No, hate is it's a toxic emotion, Linda.
What's happening here?
Yeah, what's happening, Linda?
I think you know that I am Yoda, and to argue with me is futile.
So just let it go.
All right.
To argue with her is futile.
Now, if Linda is.
Jimmy and I have an ongoing thing, just so you know.
He calls me Yoda because I am all-knowing.
So Jimmy understands where this is coming from.
She knows.
This is Linda's way of reminding me that she has a lot of dirt on me and I need to take it.
That's probably true.
I'm not even going to go there.
All right.
If people want to get tickets, Saturday night, June 28th, Clearwater, Ruth Eckert Hall.
How do they get it?
Sunday night, Broward Center, the 29th, the Broward Center for Performing Arts.
How do they get tickets?
Okay, listen.
Both theaters have websites.
By the way, I have links on all my social media.
Yep.
And so that's one way.
And how else can people get them?
Foxacrossamerica.com.
If you go to foxacrossamerica.com, you'll get tickets for all the live events there.
They're on the Hannity website, obviously, and we both posted them on social media.
Any of those links work.
And more importantly, the show works.
Like, I'm so amped, Hannity.
Like, you understand?
You're actually like, I'm back in my natural habitat doing stand-up off the reservation because you forget I was a feral cat before Fox brought me in the house and taught me how to be domesticated.
So this is it taught you how to be domesticated.
Yeah.
Well, I promise you that it's going to be fun.
We have a format that we've actually been working on the show now, and it's kind of exciting to work on.
And we're going to make it really fun.
And also, all good humor to me is rooted in truth.
And the cool thing is we partnered with Fox Nation, and they're going to be filming it.
And we look forward to that as well.
It's going to be fun.
Everybody's welcome, even Linda.
Let's go.
But she's got to pay for a ticket, though, right?
I mean, I'm going to be in the front row.
I'll be the heckler.
If she even gets past, I don't think you can get front row.
My understanding is, you know, it's all nice.
Don't worry.
I got a guy.
All right.
I got a guy.
Yeah, by the way, you know who the guy is?
Me.
That's right.
Yeah, she's got a guy.
I would think you'd want to be backstage and like see it, you know, from that direction.
No way, dude.
I want you guys to see my faces.
I'm excusing myself from this conversation.
Thank you, Jimmy.
In Clearwater, we love you.
All right.
Foxacrossamerica.com, Hannity.com.
Go to any of my social media and look forward to seeing folks in Clearwater and in Fort Lauderdale, the Ruth Eckert Hall in Clearwater, Broward Center for Performing Arts, June 28th, 29th.
Two shows only.
Punchlines and Patriots.
Jimmy Fela, look forward to being on stage with you, my friend.
All right, let's go to Charles.
He is in Atlanta, Georgia, my former hometown.
What's up, Charles?
How are you?
Glad you called, sir.
I'm all right.
I'm all right, Sean.
Longtime listener, first time caller.
I like you.
Thank you.
I'm a real Catholic, and I nine years Catholic school.
I'm a Knight of Columbus.
I go to church regularly.
So I'm calling to comment on the Pope.
And with Linda, you know, I'm probably not a good Catholic because I have enemies as well.
And I agree with Donald Trump.
I have to chalk this up as the press.
The press is the enemy of the people.
And why do I say that?
The Pope and his comments on social media, I can only attribute he's a righteous and good man.
I actually did a kind of a deep dive this morning reading some online articles about his past, his family.
By all accounts, he is a holy and good man.
And when he comes out and makes statements such as he made about the kids in cages or JD Vance, I have to attribute it as misinformation.
The media lying to a very righteous and good man.
They are misleading.
You know, Lucifer's been said.
Well, he's allowed himself to be misled.
I mean, I think you're letting him off the hook.
I mean, kids in cages happened under Obama.
I wrote.
Kids in Cages happened under Joe Biden during COVID.
And I've got the video to prove it.
And yet, it's unfortunate that he's getting political.
In the case of JD Vance, love God with all your heart.
And then he talked about that means loving your family.
That means loving your neighbors, loving your community, loving your country, and then expanding out and loving the world.
I mean, that is not at odds with the gospel.
Great.
I'm just, I'm taking the high road, Sean.
I want to think the best about Pope Leo.
I really do.
I hate to think that he's another Francis.
So I'm saying he's being lied to and manipulated and led astray.
I want to think the best about this guy because, like I said, having read a little bit about him, his family, his parents, they seem like very good people.
Yeah, he has an incredible intellect, a great education.
And unfortunately, on a lot of issues, I believe the church.
And again, I preface it by saying that going to Catholic schools for 12 years has served me so well in my life.
And I love the Mass.
I still do today.
And I think I just have issues how they handled the corruption in the church.
And I have issues with, you know, for the first 11, 1,200 years, priests were allowed to marry.
And I think that was a mistake.
11 of the 12 apostles were married.
And so I just, those are my own.
I wish they would stay out of the political realm.
It's disappointing to me.
But there will be no pope like John Paul II.
Yeah.
I mean, said exactly the same thing last night over dinner.
She said, I just wish they would not be political.
I wish they would stick to the spiritual, stick to the spiritual guidance and just leave.
The world is hungry for God, man.
I mean, I don't want to get on a high horse here, but you know what?
We need a lot more God in our life.
We just do.
You know, our country, the entire world, it's a mess.
And there's a lot of evil in it.
And I wish you would focus on that.
There's a great need for leadership there.
I got to run, Charles.
Do appreciate your call.
800-941-Sean.
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