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If you would like to join us this Friday, you know, the more I've been thinking about this, and we're coming up next week, early next week, on Donald Trump's first hundred days in office.
And when you think of everything that he is trying to accomplish at the speed of light, it is pretty spectacular.
And more importantly, I don't think people really understand how deep and profound the mess that was left for him to clean up.
And I don't care if it's the, what is it, 12, 14, whatever many unvetted Biden-Harris illegals that we know include known terrorists in our country.
We've gotten about 200 plus, 60, I think is the number, suspected terrorists so far.
We have no idea how many are here.
We just know they're here and we don't know where they are.
And then you can add to that murderers and rapists and cartel members and gang members and other violent criminals.
And all right, so President Trump has in 100 days successfully been able to pretty much seal off our border.
I mean, it is 97% closed now.
And anybody that gets caught, they are being sent back and it's over.
And it is all everything that he is doing is hard.
Everything is doable.
Not everything's going to be done immediately.
And finding all of these terrorists, murderers, rapists, gang members, cartel members, I don't know how you actually get to the finish line and say, okay, we got rid of all of them because I don't think we know all of them that here.
Don't forget there's a bunch of gotaways.
We have no idea who they are.
But when people are coming from 200 countries and they're crossing our border and they were allowed in because of Joe and Kamala Harris, it is mind-numbing to think of the enormity of the task of cleaning up that mess.
And the president is, you know, is now trying to systematically get rid of all of them.
And it's, and, well, you're not treating this one perfectly.
What about their due process right?
Well, if you talk about Obrego Garcia, well, number one, he admits he's here illegally, broke the law, didn't respect our laws, border sovereignty, start there.
Then, of course, the president designated MS-13, Trende Aragua as foreign terrorist organizations.
And under the Alien Enemies Act, the language in that is very clear, codified by a Supreme Court ruling previously used by four presidents.
The Supreme Court should uphold that precedent.
And the fact that they are more concerned about the politics, the image, the look of it, is beginning to concern me somewhat, even though the president has won about five of these cases.
But this is not an easy thing to do.
Now, the president also has to restore law and order and safety and security and refund police and get rid of these idiotic, defund, dismantled, no bail laws.
And he's working on that mess.
And it is a mess.
And Americans, you know, we have violent crime in this country on average 26 seconds.
And that's a lot of people.
The fact that the Democrats want to focus on the rights of Trende Aragua, MS-13 gang members as designated by not one but two judges in Garcia's case is a little mind-numbing.
The fact that they want to focus on the rights of a foreign student that was involved in all of the pro-Hamas activities and taking over buildings and what else?
Setting up encampments and stopping Jewish students and asking them if they're Zionists or not.
And then the school's response is to tell Jewish students, you might want to stay home.
It's probably not safe for you to come to campus is not the answer.
And the president's right to think about not only cutting off their funding, why did Harvard get nearly $650 million fiscal year 2024?
That's insane.
They have a $53 billion endowment.
All of these universities have billion-dollar endowments.
It's insane.
We ought not be spending a penny on it.
Then you have the president having to deal with the mess that is in Europe, the mess that is in the Middle East, all of which was caused by Joe Biden.
And even previously, if you're talking about Ukraine and Crimea and the annexation back in, what, 2014, that was caused by them.
And if you were, and it's been 10 years, and I'm listening to people say, Donald Trump's giving into Vladimir Putin.
No, here are the, it's sort of like on tariffs.
You have two choices on tariffs.
Either you allow the establishment institutionalists that never think out of the box to just leave everything as it is.
And somehow, you know, it's the definition of insanity to bang your head against the wall and expect a different result, or you draw a line in the sand and say, you're not going to rip off America.
You're not going to abuse us.
You're not going to take advantage of us, especially allied countries that count on us for their national security and national defense.
That would be European partners and Canada and so many others and Japan and Taiwan and Korea.
I mean, they've put massive tariffs on our country, and for 50, 60 years, they've gotten away with it.
And people, you know, were skittish in the stock market.
Well, you have two choices in that scenario.
Either you allow the unfair abuse of America to continue, or you take a stand, go through a period that is uncomfortable.
And from that vantage point, then you decide as a country that it's worth fighting for fundamental fairness, especially with our allies.
Now, we have economic news today that we'll share with you.
One overseas food producer announced $1.2 billion in investments.
Now we're near $10 trillion in investments that have been committed only because Donald Trump has said, no, we'll put tariffs on you.
The Greek yogurt manufacturer, what is it called?
Shobani?
I think you liked it.
I like that yogurt.
Their blueberry is actually pretty good.
They announced they're investing $1.2 billion building its third dairy processing plant in America, and this time in upstate New York, and the project will create 1,000 full-time jobs.
And they did it to avoid tariffs that will be placed on imports that they would otherwise have.
You know, you have a private equity firm expanding investments into U.S.-based oil and gas and energy for investors.
Remember, too, on the economy, we're still living under the Biden economy.
We haven't even gotten reconciliation done yet, which we have to get done, and we'll get to that too today.
But the enormity of the problems that the president is tackling is unprecedented in 100 days.
And he's asked by Time magazine today, well, why you said you'd bring peace to Europe in a day?
Why didn't you get it done?
He's been in office three months.
The answer to your question is it didn't get done, but he's been on it since day one.
And we're as close as we've ever been.
And then he laid out rightly so, you know, under Obama and Biden, that's when Crimea was annexed by Russia.
And Obama and Biden did nothing.
When troops a few years back were amassing on the Ukrainian border, Russian troops and military equipment, Biden didn't pick up the phone and call Vladimir and say, what the hell are you doing?
And if Vladimir had a legitimate somehow grievance about a territorial dispute, why not try to resolve it before the invasion, knowing damn well that he's not putting those troops and equipment there for nothing?
And asked, well, what happens if he invades?
Well, it depends if it's a minor incursion or not.
Okay, that didn't happen the four years Donald Trump was president.
Putin didn't make a move.
And nor did President Xi.
And President Xi, for the first time, got hit with tariffs.
And I know there's disruption.
I know that Donald Trump, by his very nature, he's not an institutionalist.
He's not an establishment figure.
He is a disruptor.
He's an iconoclast, and he's thinking anew.
And people are going to have to get used to thinking differently about issues instead of going along with policies that result in massive debt and deficits, robbing from our kids and grandkids, being ripped off, and allowing unvetted gang members, terrorists, criminals, murderers, rapists, and cartel members into our country.
Now, I know that the deal, there's two choices, like I said, on tariffs.
There are two choices on tariffs.
You keep getting ripped off or you challenge the system and fight for better deals.
The president has chosen the latter, something no president has done in 60 years.
The same thing after three years of nonstop war, which really evolved into a proxy war between the U.S. and Russia.
And don't get me wrong, I think I know Putin's a murdering dictator thug, and he doesn't give a damn if he's killing innocent men, women, and children, which he's been doing.
He doesn't care.
But with that said, there's progress.
Now, there are unrealistic, I'm listening to people, there's such unrealistic expectations.
Well, Mr. President, you're saying that you're going to tell Ukraine to give up Crimea?
Crimea was gone nearly 10 years ago.
That happened on Obama and Biden's watch.
Now, what about Donbass, which was, my understanding, an 80% Russian population area in some of these other regions?
The thing that started this was, remember, they were never going to be a member of NATO, and they started pushing to be a member of NATO.
That's a trigger for Vladimir Putin and Russia.
That wasn't going to happen either.
So, is it going to be the best deal for Ukraine?
They don't have any good options.
Now, we don't have many options either.
In other words, the United States can continue to be the proxy and fight Russia.
And I don't think the American people have the appetite for that.
And that was crashing and burning by the end of the Biden administration because we already spent a few hundred billion dollars, you know, helping Ukraine sustain itself to the extent they were able.
But there's not going to be a country left if a deal's not struck.
There just isn't.
And then why are we throwing good money after bad?
Whether or not Europe has proven that they won't step up for Ukraine to the extent that would be needed to really challenge Russia militarily.
That's their continent.
That's not ours.
So is the ideal going to be perfect?
The deal going to be perfect?
No, it's not.
What is the alternative?
The alternative: America continues to pay money we don't have, offer military assistance, and basically be a proxy for Ukraine, or you get a deal as imperfect as it is, and whatever's left of Ukraine, you let the Ukrainians run with more security guarantees and a rare earth mineral deal that will enrich Ukraine so they can start the process of building back their country and bringing back population that it left in droves.
That's pretty much your options here.
And oh, that means Putin wins.
No, it doesn't mean Putin wins.
It means that the world wins because this ends.
The damage was done under Biden and under Obama and Biden.
Trump inherited this mess, just like he's inheriting the mess in the Middle East on October 7th and inheriting the mess of the Iranians now being filthy rich because Joe Biden turned a blind eye to the sanctions that Trump had in place that were bankrupting them.
And as a result, they were able to foment more terror in the region and help plot, plan, and scheme what happened on October 7, 23, and furthermore, fund terror with Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah out of Lebanon in the north and fund the Houthi rebels and then fire their own ballistic missiles into Israel.
This all lies at the feet of the failure, the mess, the disaster.
That was Joe Biden's presidency.
And every American that is murdered and raped and a victim of violent crime, and if there's ever a terror attack by a Biden-Harris, unvetted, illegal, it's all blood on their hands, but they'll want to blame Trump.
And if the Iranians get nukes, it's because they had the money that Joe Biden allowed that to have happen.
When meanwhile, they were probably sitting on the verge of regime change because they were so broke because Donald Trump's sanctions were so effective and Biden didn't keep them up.
I mean, so every one of these things is hard.
It is complicated.
And I'm like, did Time magazine, this war has been going on for years.
When he said he's going to get on it from day one and he's going to resolve this, he's committed to resolving it.
He's doing his level best.
Ukraine doesn't really have a hand to play here.
So Donald Trump's gotta figure out how to thread that needle with somebody that has no cards in the game.
Now, do I think it's horrible what's happened to Ukraine?
I do.
I think it's worse that Joe Biden allowed it and didn't lift a finger to try and prevent it.
I think it's even worse that Europe doesn't protect their own continent.
I think it's worse that America was put in the position of being a proxy fighter against them.
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I mean, these are such weird times we're living in.
I mean, it's bordering on insanity in the country, especially with the left.
The Democratic mayor of Milwaukee, some guy named Cavalier Johnson, just criticized the Trump administration.
Why?
For arresting the judge in this case, Hannah Dugan, for obstructing ICE from arresting an illegal accused of domestic violence because it's, quote, scaring immigrant communities and it's quote, making our communities less safe.
Now, explain to me how removing somebody who's accused of domestic violence is scaring people and making your community less safe.
It's not like you're making your community more safe to me.
Anyway, listen to this, guys.
It's a complete idiot.
Defendant is ordered.
There'll be a court appearance.
That didn't happen in this case.
I think what happened here was just showboating.
They're just trying to have this show of force.
And in the process of doing this in a courthouse where people need to go for court proceedings, they're scaring people away from participating in the process.
So, if they are witness to a crime or something of the sort, they're not going to go and participate, and that makes our community less safe.
So, the issue is with how the arrest happened, not necessarily that there was an investigation.
Again, I don't know all the things that happened there, but I'm saying that the way that they went about this in this ham-handed, haphazard way that this administration has been doing since day one, it's driving people away or has potential to drive people away from participating in court proceedings, which makes our community less safe.
Oh, sorry to actually enforce the laws of our country.
If liberals really feel this strongly about it, they should get back in power and have open borders, which is pretty much what they codified into law anyway.
And I still make the case and stand by my belief that if you're aiding and abetting criminal, illegal immigrants and creating sanctuary status for them and all these states and municipalities that allow them to get legal driver's licenses, you're aiding and abetting lawbreaking.
And in many cases, I would argue you're involved in human trafficking.
And the fact that these states have, you know, oh, they all started out, they're not going to cooperate with ICE.
Well, they're cooperating with ICE.
But I go back to what I said before: every single thing that Donald Trump inherited here is a mess.
What do you do with 12, 14, 15 million unvetted Biden-Harris illegals, and among them are known terrorists and murderers, rapists, cartel members, gang members, and find them and deport them?
He's done a good job of securing the border, and they're doing a good job in finding these people in spite of politicians, judges, others getting in the way, and then lawfare and running to do some judge shopping and get courts to stop them from doing the job that they were elected to do and usurp the power of the president, constitutionally authorized power.
I mean, it's very, very difficult.
I mean, people want, if you think you're going to get a clean landing as it relates to Russia and Ukraine and Europe, good luck to you.
Because I don't think that's in the cards.
You know, the reality is President Trump was not responsible.
He was not president when Vladimir Putin was amassing troops and military equipment on the border with Ukraine.
That was Joe Biden.
He's not responsible.
What happened in 2014 when the annexation of Crimea took place?
Now it's either his choice that he gets to he either continues to be the proxy fighter against Putin and Russia, or option B is Donald Trump says, well, we need a negotiated settlement because Europe's not going to do it.
And there's no good answer here because Russia is not going to give back land that is in their minds, I think, in many cases, wrongly realized as theirs.
They feel they have territorial rights to such.
It wasn't the right way to go about it.
Putin's a murdering dictator thug.
I'll give props to the Ukrainian people.
They fought bravely.
They fought valiantly, but they were fighting with our military equipment and our money.
And other countries did contribute, but not to the extent that we did.
So there's not a real good choice here.
Now, the mayor of Kyiv, interestingly, sounds a lot more interested in reaching a peace deal with Russia than Zelensky is.
The mayor of Kyiv said one of the scenarios to give up territory, it's not fair, but for peace, maybe temporary peace, maybe it can be a solution.
He said the Ukrainian people would never accept occupation by Russia.
So either they'll go back to war, and my prediction is Putin will win that war.
Because I don't think that Europe is going to do what would be needed to stop Putin from winning that war.
I just don't.
And the United States has nearly $40 trillion in debt.
And we've got to get our finances back in order.
We need to build up our own defenses.
We need to prepare for the next generation of warfare, especially when China and Russia have hypersonics and other technologies on the horizon.
And we're falling behind quickly.
Anyway, this is you've got two intractable global security problems that he inherited here.
And there just isn't an answer.
And the funny thing is, if they do come up with a deal that is not ideal, because there is no ideal answer, if they think the ideal answer is, well, well, Putin will just give in and he'll say, okay, I'm going to leave now.
And I'm going to pull back from Crimea and Donbass and all these areas.
You are dreaming that war will continue and the Ukrainians will want more U.S. and European money.
And then God only knows how it ends.
Now, the president now also inherited from Biden open borders, you know, known terrorists, cartel members, gang members, murderers, rapists.
All right, that's not bad.
That's bad enough in terms of our own national security.
It was the biggest preventable national security disaster in our country's history.
Then he has to inherit the disaster in Gaza, the disaster that is Iran.
And according to published reports and public information, they're on the precipice of having a nuclear weapon.
Now he's got to make a really tough decision.
He was asked in an interview as well on Friday, and he told Time magazine that he will very willingly lead the U.S. attack into attacking Iran's nuclear facilities if the regime does not make a deal to stop their program.
He's pretty unequivocal about it.
Now, he's optimistic that he can make a deal, too.
He believes he's the consummate deal maker, and hopefully in both places, he will be successful.
It's not a given, but he's trying awfully hard, and he has his envoys trying hard and his cabinet members trying hard.
He added that he had not stopped Israel from attacking Iran on their own, but had not made it comfortable for them to make that choice.
He said, asked if Netanyahu would drag the U.S. into the war.
He actually said, no, the U.S. would lead the effort.
You asked if Netanyahu would drag me in.
Like, no, I'd go, like, I'd go unwillingly.
No, I'd go in very willingly if we can't get a deal.
If we don't make a deal, I'll be leading the pack.
Now, why is he right on that and other naysayers wrong?
Is because then you're looking at radical Islamists of the worst kind that believe in the caliphate, you know, the 12th Imam converter-die ideology, strap bombs on young kids and have them detonate them and kill innocent men, women, and children and promise them 72 virgins in heaven, the people that have been chanting death to Israel, death to America.
So, again, a hard problem.
House Republicans are right on the issue.
We've got to spend more on national defense.
They're planning to increase defense spending by $150 billion in their budget.
That would be the reconciliation, one big, beautiful bill, which will codify the president's, you know, the beginning of his agenda on the economy, taxes, defense, border security.
And that's going to hit the floor by Memorial Day weekend.
And probably we're going to have a lot of Republicans that are not going to love it.
And by the way, the funding will go to 12 key areas: shipbuilding, the Golden Dome, missile defense program.
He wants a dome over the entire country, which might end up one day being his greatest legacy.
Nuclear weapons, modernization, air superiority, border security, military intelligence, and deterrence.
I mean, again, all of this happened on Biden's watch.
Biden made the mullahs in Iran on the brink of bankruptcy rich again.
Great job, Joe.
On the issue of some economic issues we have today, because we've had, what, three or four pretty big days on Wall Street, somewhat flat, but up today.
The last time I looked, I haven't looked in a while.
But now we're up to inching towards, since Donald Trump brought forth his tariff threat, $10 trillion in committed investments.
That's real money because these countries know he means it.
And he even said on his way, he said it to the Pope's funeral that he thinks that they're close to getting deals with Japan.
And I know they're talking about Australia and Taiwan and Korea.
He's going to meet with the Prime Minister of Italy again.
And we know we're close to a deal with Great Britain, et cetera, et cetera.
Apple, by the way, announced that they're moving its production facilities for iPhones sold in the U.S. from China to India.
And Apple plans to move the assembly of all iPhones sold in the U.S. from China to India by the end of next year.
They're moving pretty quickly because they see the handwritings on the wall.
Now, if you don't think the Chinese are getting hurt by this, they are.
Financial Times had an interesting piece.
The factories across China are scaling back operations, sending workers home, halting production lines as U.F. tariffs imposed by Donald Trump squeeze Chinese exports.
As much as, you know, the argument can be made, well, we need some of their rare earths.
We do.
But they need access to our markets also.
And I think ultimately then there, it will be a little painful.
But what's the choice?
You either accept being tariffed to death and ripped off and abused by countries, friend, and foe, or you draw a line in the sand and say, no, we're going to stand up for American workers and American manufacturing, and we're not going to be so dependent on you.
And it might take a little bit of time to get used to the new normal.
It's not going to be the store shelves will be empty.
The stock market's going to crash.
Let's see what he does.
Jaboni, the Greek yogurt maker, they're investing $1.2 billion building a third dairy processing plant in the U.S.
This one is going to Chobani.
Is that how you say it?
I like their blueberry yogurt.
It's really good.
The new project is expected to create 1,000 jobs, full-time jobs in New York.
Good for them.
The Census Bureau has put out when China decided to cancel a single Boeing airplane order last month because of Trump's tariffs, the media reported it's over.
And for the better part of a week, that's all you heard.
Yesterday, the Census Bureau revealed that orders for commercial aircraft and other durable goods have suddenly exploded.
Orders for long-lasting manufactured goods jumped in March, far exceeding expectations.
New orders for durable goods rose 9.2% to a seasonally adjusted $315.7 billion.
And that's a point up from February alone.
Economists have forecast a modest 1.4% rise.
Gain powered by a 27% surge in transportation equipment led by commercial aircraft.
Good.
Private equity firm, a Texas-based private firm, is broadening the variety of ways investors can tap into U.S.-based energy projects.
And they're making massive investments, billion dollars in investments in U.S.-based oil and gas energy for investors.
I'm just, I've never been able to figure out oil and gas and energy.
I just haven't.
But Democrats are too busy.
You got an Obama-Obama-appointed judge blocking Trump from denying funds to sanctuary cities.
I'm sure that'll be overturned in time, too.
Back to the old.
They can't win electorally.
They can't get it done legislatively.
So let's get a liberal jurist, activist justice, to do that which we can't get done on our own.
And Trump's executive order on voting, blocked by a federal judge amid a flurry of legal setbacks.
Illegal alien is sentenced to life in prison for murdering a showgirl, Canadian tourists on the Vegas Strip.
And what else?
Oh, the Trump Agricultural Department has ordered states to make sure they're not giving food stamps to Biden illegals.
It's about time.
By the way, CNN, MSDNC used the term Maryland man 506 times to conceal that Garcia is an El Salvadorian.
506 times.
Unbelievable.
By the way, the FBI is offering a $5 million reward to help capture a top MS-13 terrorist.
Oh, Biden and Harris led in the country.
Another Biden illegal reportedly confessed to raping a 13-year-old Florida boy.
That's the news from, you know, the mess that Joe Biden left us.
Israel, they're still under attack.
They're fighting for their very survival.
They're surrounded by enemies.
Missiles are being fired left, right, and sideways.
And, you know, these are people that want the destruction of Israel.
They say it.
They mean it.
They act like it.
Anyway, the people of Israel are suffering greatly at this point.
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