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If you want to be a part of the program, Democrats doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on Abrego Garcia and defending a guy that we know an awful lot about, his own wife, her own handwriting, accusing him of being a wife beater.
That's second and apart from the fact that two judges designated and decided that they believed that the evidence was overwhelming enough to declare him a member of MS-13 and now deported out of the country, admittedly in the country illegally.
That has become their cause, Celeb.
And uh Tim Walls, the vice presidential candidate for the Democrats, decided away in.
Let's play it.
Now, in this land of the free and home of the brave, we have university students being swept up, shoved into unmarked vans, and fathers being tossed into Salvadorian gulags without a hint of due process.
So I want to be real clear about this.
If you say you love freedom, but you don't believe freedom is for everybody, then the thing you love isn't freedom, it's privilege.
Okay, not true.
Two judges made the determination.
The Alien Enemies Act is very clear, used by four prior presidents with a Supreme Court precedence that says that that decision uh falls under the authority, the executive authority of the president of the United States, and is not even subject to judicial review.
Don't let facts get in the way of a good narrative.
Uh, just like the student that they're talking about, Khalil is not from America, was allowed a student visa, and he's leading protests.
Now, it's not just speech on college campuses.
Remember, we covered stories of people on Columbia's campus and other campuses, you know, setting up their encampments, taking over buildings, and asking uh people whether or not they were Zionists, and if they were, they were not allowed to pass.
And then universities telling Jewish students uh maybe you shouldn't come to campus anymore.
And and and at home learning is probably gonna work best for you because they had no intention of fixing what was obvious hatred and discrimination.
Anyway, here is uh Frederica Wilson instructing her constituents to threaten Republicans over mass deportation.
I've been giving out the phone numbers to the House of Representatives and to the Senate.
It's one number.
That number you call and you threaten them.
And you say, This is wrong.
This is not America.
This is not what we stand for.
Imagine if I made a threat against an elected official.
Threaten them.
Call and threaten them.
Okay.
That sounds pretty intimidating, But it does fit into this assassination culture.
Let's sit idly by Tesla dealerships getting bullets fired into them, and their charging stations and cars are getting uh uh Molotov cocktailed and set ablaze.
You know, assassination calls for Elon Musk, Donald Trump, and uh, of course, the pro Hamas movement and the left is their their silence has been deafening on all fronts of every aspect of this.
Anyway, here to uh discuss all of this.
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You will own nothing.
Dr. Carol Swain is with us, uh, a senior fellow, Institute of Faith and Culture, author of The Adversity of Diversity.
Uh, welcome both of you back to the program.
Uh, can you explain why uh Dr. Swain, this is the hill that Democrats want to die on, because it it defies all logic.
This is an eighty twenty issue in America.
I agree that Democrats are behaving irrational.
They see racial and ethnic minorities slipping from that grasp, and instead of looking at themselves seriously, doing a self-examination, they seem to be digging themselves in a deeper and deeper hold.
There's nothing that would suggest that the American people want the kind of society that Democrats would impose upon them.
And when they talk about the rule of law, the Constitution, it's laughable when you consider how they denied Republicans due process at every step of the way.
Yeah, I agree, because it's not true on top of it, nor does the the Enemy Aliens Act.
And remember, uh, Trend Aragua and MS 13, Carol Roth, are organizations that have been designated by the president foreign terrorist organizations.
And by the way, how else would you describe them?
You know, this isn't like uh uh, you know, the YMCA or or you know, the Boy Scouts.
Uh these are are known hardcore terrorist organizations that are involved in in violence and drug dealing and all sorts of stuff.
If you woke up from a coma, you've been in a coma for 50 years, and you said the first thing someone says to you is the Democrats are trying to keep violent gang members from other countries, people associated with cartels, people associated with Hamas, the terrorist organization.
They're working overtime instead of fixing the problems for America, they're working overtime to keep those people who have no business being in the country to begin with, in the country.
The person in the comma would be like, You've got to be pulling my leg.
Like this couldn't possibly be serious.
I I wake up every day and feel like we're in a simulation or somebody's gonna jump out and go, Oh, we're just kidding.
We wanted to see your reaction because it is absolutely so egregious, so over the top.
And as you said, 8020 issue.
I think this is like a 95-5 issue, Sean.
There is nobody who wants these violent criminals, people who are associated and defending groups that kill and and kidnap babies and rape women and do horrible unspeakable crimes that they want them in the country.
There's just uh it it's just absolutely mind-boggling um to see them continue to double and triple down on this and and make trips.
They're going on trips to go visit these people as they leave the country.
It it's it's just as I said, it's just not even to be believed.
All right, so you have the vice chair of the DNC, uh, Dr. Swain, uh, David Hogg, and he's saying that he wants he doesn't think Democrats are strong enough, and he wants more younger Democrats in there.
And anyway, he's very progressive, very radical left, more in from what I can tell, in keeping with the squad mentality and the AOC and Gasmond Crockett and Bernie Sanders wing of the party.
And anyway, the he's preparing to organize, go all in on unseating veteran lawmakers in favor of more radicalized Democrats.
These are these are incumbents that we're talking about.
Now, Hakeem Jeffries has now taken another stab uh at trying to get this to stop, saying he doesn't like This and on top of that, the new the head of the DNC, the chairman of the DNC, Ken Martin is trying to stop David Hogg, but this is now, you know, out in the open and intramural battle.
Uh, but I don't see Hakeem Jeffreys, Chuck Schumer ever having the courage to stand up to the radicals that seem to dominate that party as influenced this week by the horrible phone numbers Chuck Schumer has in New York, the lowest he's had in in decades, uh, and AOC is now skyrocketing through the roof.
Well, the Democrats are imploding right before our eyes, and it doesn't mo bother me that the extremists are so loud because it's like the death kneel of the party.
I wouldn't care if they were out of power for the next, you know, a hundred years.
So I'm going to say David Hogg, go for it.
I'm with you, and and I'm gonna add to it.
If they want to be the champions for men playing women's sports, go for it.
If they want to put the rights of illegal immigrants, even trend Aragua or MS3 team members over the safety and security of Americans, you go for that.
If you want to claim it's a constitutional crisis when you get exposed, spending money abroad to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars on the Green New Deal and and radicalism, DEI ism, wokeism, transgenderism.
I'm I'm like, go for it.
If you won't stand for mothers that lost their children or a young man that lost that beat cancer, you be that party.
Carol?
Roth?
Yes, so the the common sense part of me wants to agree with both of you, but there is an indisputable fact that attention has become one of the most valuable currencies in our social media and tech enabled age.
And we have, by giving attention to these absolutely horrible morons like the AOCs of the world, we have elevated them and have given them more popularity.
And unfortunately, you know, from time to time, an uninformed populist will go, oh, I know this person, I've seen them, I may not know what it is that they stand for, and so they're going to grab my vote.
And that is the part that scares me.
I would rather that you know we stop giving attention and and creating the platform for some of these absolutely horrible people, because even though common sense should theoretically prevail, you know, we just spent four years under a president that everybody clearly knew had dementia or something of the of the sort and was not you know mentally there, and we absolutely had no idea who was running the show.
So we've seen those kinds of cover-ups before, and we've seen the lapse in judgment.
And so, you know, I fear when you get a bunch of those people who get a lot of attention, and the people who don't really understand their policies, but know that they've seen their face before, that some point at some point down the line that could come back to bite us all.
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Well, a lot of this, a lot of where we'll be in 26 is going to be depending on how successful the president's policies are.
Now, we've watched him Dr. Swain move at the speed of light, and he's done a great job securing the borders.
It's 97% more secure than it was.
Uh that's number one.
Now he's deporting illegals, even though he's battling the courts constantly and court, you know, judge shopping.
Uh number two, uh, he is successfully, it will take time going to renegotiate free and fair trade deals that we've not had in fifty or sixty years, but that's that's a heavy lift.
That will take time.
He's gonna open up, you know, liquefied natural gas and and oil and coal in this country.
That'll take time to to get into the uh uh economic bloodstream, and that he's trying to solve war in Europe and you're in war in the Middle East, not exactly the easiest lifts in the world.
He's he's kind of picked hard issues.
I would say that the American people trust Donald Trump and he's picking up support from minority groups and people who are Democrats that would never saw themselves voting for a Republican.
And so I believe the American people have common sense.
They see a president, they may not understand everything he does, but they trust him.
Sean, what I love about President Trump is that he's not afraid of the media.
There's not a question anyone can ask him, that he can't give a reasonable answer.
And so I believe the American people will give him patience, and there are things that people don't understand, such as terrorists, but people that have watched President Trump, they know he has a great track record.
I mean, he always he's ahead of everyone ass, and I believe the American people will trust him to always act in their best interests.
And on terrorists, Carol Roth, we have two issues two choices.
We continue to allow friend and foe alike to rip us off, abuse us, take advantage of us, and we don't reciprocate or we give them a choice.
Free and fair trade or reciprocal tariffs, your choice, what do you want?
And and he's willing to take the short-term hit, which is inevitable for long-term financial gain and for fundamental fairness.
Here's the issue for me on this, Sean.
And you know that you know, financial and economics is my background.
The issue is that the Biden administration has left the Trump administration with a hair on fire problem with our national debt, with deficits to GDP, with the amount of interest on our debt.
And while trade may be an issue that we could have a long debate about, you know, where that kind of falls in, it's not the hair on fire issue.
And the challenge is that the Biden administration has basically laid these tripwires or booby traps all over the place.
That if there's anything that's done that lowers receipts that lowers GDP, it could explode the deficit and put us into a debt spiral, which will take you know any of the patience that we all want everyone to have off the table.
So my challenge is I think the choreography here could be rewired to focus more on deregulation, uh making the tax cuts permanent, doing the things to boost the growth side first to Allow to go in more surgically and address some of these trade issues,
particularly in areas where there are national security issues like pharmaceuticals, like shipbuilding, you know, the defense products and the like.
And I'm just concerned that the context of the fiscal situation that was left behind from the fire administration could call Oh, it's hard.
I mean, but I'll tell you what the choices we continue to get ripped off.
That's I mean, so it's a hard it's not an easy call.
I don't want to get ripped off anymore.
I'm tired of it.
I think I think that I think these countries will make deals.
I'm hope I'm hopeful there's a lot riding on it for sure.
Um But you ray you raise legitimate concerns.
I'm just out of time though.
I do appreciate you always, Carol Raw, thank you.
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Um we didn't talk about it yesterday, but Linda kind of only worked a few hours and then she was she bailed on the show.
You just took off.
I did.
Just kidding.
I think so.
Which in fairness to you, you'd never do.
Um but so you had something important to do.
Like I used to with my kids.
I had Daddy Sunday, and that was me and my son, and and I'd we'd go shopping together.
We'd get all his favorite foods, and I'd come back and cook them for him.
He loved the way I cooked.
He particularly loved I don't know why he loved my breaded chicken cutlets, or we'd cook steak, you know, just stuff or ribs, whatever, whatever he wanted.
And I'd make and mac and cheese or you know, rice aroni, chicken flavor.
I mean, just stuff that I I won't eat today, or very, very, very rarely, you know, because I'm all meat and eggs, etc.
And then with my daughter, we did daddy daughter day.
And I've talked about this before, and daddy daughter today was simple.
She gets to pick one store.
I hate shopping.
I have the patience of a gnat.
However, whatever store she picks, she has 10 minutes to go in there, get whatever she wanted.
I'd I'd be running the clock, and when time's up, I said, All right, we're done.
Go to the counter and we'll check out.
And she would go in there and for many years she was so slow until once I took her friend with her, and then the friend is filling a shopping cart, and she's like, Oh, maybe I can get a lot more stuff.
Uh, and then I'd also take her out to wherever she wanted to eat, and for years that ended up being Subway.
I don't love Subway.
I didn't love it then, I don't love it now.
And and I said, Well, I'd be like, sweetheart, no, we can go get a steak, we can get anything you want.
Pizza, Italian, anything.
No, let's go to Subway.
For years I went to Subway.
Anyway, you had a Linda Liam Day yesterday with your youngest son.
And I've known Liam since he's a baby, well, since he was born.
He's a great kid, and now he's a football player and really good at it.
And um, so you had you had Linda Liam Day yesterday.
How'd it go?
What'd you do?
It actually was so nice.
You know, he's been um it's been so busy, obviously, with the election and everything.
So, you know, he had spring break and we didn't do a whole lot.
It was only a couple of days, and he said, you know, um, I I would really like a day with you.
And I looked at him and I was like, uh, I get it.
You want to get out of school?
And he goes, No, mom, really.
I I would just love a day with you.
I I don't see you.
You know, I come in, you're always working, or you're in New York, or you're in DC, and I was like, all right.
So I was like, I gotta figure out where I can do this.
And there really just is no good time, right?
Like we're all working, there's never a good time.
But I took the second half of yesterday.
I took him to a place here called Funzilla, which if you're a parent, you know exactly what kind of place that is.
It's funzilla.
It sounds like a zoo.
It sounds like a bunch of kids going insane.
So what was great was because we went at like 3 30.
The kids are still in school.
So we got there and there's only two other kids there.
It was like he went out of his mind.
We did go karts, uh, trampolines, dodgeball trampoline, basketball trampoline.
We did video games, we did foam jumpers.
I I can't even tell you.
It was ridiculous.
And uh, we were there for three hours, uh, which is a labor of love, I will tell you that.
Um he had a blast, and then he said he wanted to go to what is a very kind of like an upscale steakhouse around our around our house, but he likes their wings and we're friendly with the folks that work there.
So we went there, just the two of us, and uh he had wings and and a steak, which he never even got to because he ate so many wings and he had garlic bread and he was like the happiest.
Now what's the name of the place you went to?
Rocco's Rocco's at the brick.
Rocco's.
Did they like fry the wings or did they do what you do, which is air fry them and ruin them?
You know, I don't know how they make their wings, but what I can tell you is that all of my kids love them, but Liam really loves them.
He eats them plain, no sauces, no nothing.
Because you you have you you've really been unfair to this kid.
And we had him on the air once a couple of years ago, and I kept saying you would not give your son a happy meal.
It's called a happy meal.
Because it's not happy, it's called a heart attack and a plastic.
It's not a heart as the air okay.
A young kid is not gonna have a heart attack from a friggin' small little hamburger too.
No, but I don't I don't know.
And a couple of good French fries.
And you're like, no, no, no, no.
He loves my air air fried French fries better than McDonald's.
Meanwhile, he'd never tried McDonald's.
And then one day he's in studio and I ask him, I s and and finally he got to go to McDonald's.
I said, Well, which French fries do you like better?
He goes, Oh, definitely McDonald's.
And then you then afterwards you try to, you know, get in his head, manipulate 'em, and make him say that he liked your air fried French fries better than real French fries.
And he felt bad.
But he there was no equivocation on his part.
We ought to we ought to pull the tape.
I think like all kids, they love fast food and other people take 'em for fast food.
Him and my my mom will go, you know, because that's what grandmas do.
They spoil their their grandkids.
Uncle Sean will buy him as much ha many happy meals as he wants.
Yeah, he doesn't get that with me, but he doesn't expect it either.
I mean, he got, you know, steel pizza.
Does he get pizza?
Yeah, we'll get pizza.
We'll get pizza.
But we go to like a family restaurant.
Listen, we do I try to do pizza once a week for him because he does love it, so we'll do it once a week.
But I really do try to feed the kids pizza.
Mac does he love mac and cheese?
He loves mac and cheese.
And and he likes McDonald's, except you won't give it to him.
I will give him McCain's wings.
I will give him Chick-fil-A, which isn't much better, but it's better.
It's better than McDonald's, in my opinion.
In your opinion.
I d I I have no problem with Chick-fil-A, but you don't get him French fries.
No, no, I'll get him the waffle fries.
He loves them, and I'm just like, you know, I love that place because it's a Christian place, so I you know, I support it.
Um and we're friendly with the folks that work at the one around us, so it's all good.
So he gets it there.
It's fine.
And I let him get a shake, Sean.
He gets a shake.
I can't believe it.
Then he's gonna be wired for the rest of the day.
Let's go to CJ in Washington State.
CJ, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
I'm good.
Thank you for taking my phone call up here in Washington State.
Oh, thank you.
Don't you think every kid deserves a happy meal to be happy?
Well, I definitely fed my children happy meals and my grandkids.
You know, they're they're they're good when they're when it, you know, grandmas are with them anyway.
Uh well, yeah.
I mean, I think it's the job of grandparents to spoil kids.
Too bad.
And then the the the good news is you get to give them back and then you know, you can send them all jacked up on sugar and not worry about it.
Although there there is some truth to you know, these fast food companies.
They could do a little bit better making things a little bit healthier.
I think French fries in America have like thirteen ingredients.
I think I I forget which Maha person told me this.
And in Europe they have like three.
Why don't we make them that way?
I'm sure they don't taste any different.
I think they're working on it, and I'm hopeful that we will see that happen in the near future.
Yeah.
But I like a great hamburger.
There's a really cool place by me.
It's a a barbecue place that makes a killer burger, and I get it on a lettuce wrap.
Very good.
Sounds delicious.
Love the but I but I pass on the fries.
I don't eat I d uh I now I did with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. when we went to uh steak and shake, and I got the good the cause they're using the new tallow oil, and which is far superior than you know, all of these, you know, other oils that are out there that we tend to use on a a regular basis.
According to all the experts, I'm just listening to them.
Yeah, and you know what?
We don't have steak and seed oils in the country, so I've never been to a steak and shake, so I'll just have to take your word for it.
There's a great bird.
Can't believe I'd never had one before.
It was really good.
It's you know anyway, what else is on your mind?
Well, you know what?
I'm up here in Washington State, particularly the Seattle area, and I'm a conservative, and I am surrounded by progressive Uber liberal thinking.
Family members, and believe it or not, I've been married to my husband forty years, and he and I don't see eye to eye politics, so we don't think.
But the people that I'm surrounded by, I mean, they suffer from severe Trump derangement syndrome.
And they have fear like you would not believe.
Fear that is like so palpable you can cut it with a knife.
And when I'm watching the news, particularly I've watched Fox, I listen to Patriot, thank God for the Patriot excess, you know, FM.
And I just love what I hear.
It's sensible, it's rational.
And then when I listen to all the other news channels, if I can stomach them, um, you know, it's it's discouraging because um around my area, it's very, very um one-sided.
And I just want to hear from you that, you know, that that we are stronger than what I feel like in my community in my area.
Remember Seattle Summer of Love?
It's really true.
They were destructive, they were horrible.
And look, the left is always gonna be here, but remember and start at the start with the basics.
They threw everything they had at Donald Trump and conservatism, and we won.
And uh, I believe conservatism is and limited government and greater freedom ultimately will win the day.
I just think what the president has taken on, which was his agenda is uh what he ran on.
I don't think any one of these items is easy.
And I don't care if that's fixing the mess of the economy that he inherited or the mess in Europe or the mess at the border or the mess in the Middle East, um, or the m the mess with energy uh dependence in this country, uh I i everything that he's doing is hard.
And it's just gonna take some time.
He's also trying to institutionalize change and reform government forever and go back to original principles.
That's hard too.
What Doge is doing is hard, and eliminating waste fraud and abuse is imperative.
And so I I I just think we have to let this play out, and people have to show some degree of patience and not expect he's gonna snap his fingers and the world's gonna change.
It's not how life works.
Oh, I can't agree with you more.
And you know what?
When he won the first term, I said this.
The reason they are afraid of him or why he came in or when he came in was they knew that he would catch them.
And that is I know this from the bottom of my heart that the left is running scared because Trump is not afraid to call him out.
And that's what's happening.
But the amount of things that they have gotten away with from the media mob to the just all the propaganda and the brainwashing is i it's just it's uh it it just blows me away.
And I'm really in the heart of it.
We are right along there with California and Oregon.
We are the left coast.
And I just, you know, when he won the second term, I was elated, and you know, I I pray for him and I pray for our country because you know, I I agree with you.
It's like I just want to be left alone.
I want to just have the freedoms that I've always known.
And I want my children to be safe.
I want my kids to just be kids.
Leave the kids alone, let them in a sense.
I I totally agree, and all of that is is changing before our very eyes, and really in record time, what he's done and accomplished, and we'll get into this next week, uh just as we hit the hundred day mark, but he's try he he's a disruptor.
He's an iconoclast.
He thinks out of the box.
He he's the the old way of doing things is is not anything that he is interested in.
He's not interested in in what the establishment feels, which is well, there's only one way to do things, or the institutionalist feel.
He's turning these things upside down and and shaking them on their head, and people are gonna have to get used to a a new way to do things.
And change like that, you know, fundamental change, transformational change is alarming to people, sh at times shocking to people, but it's also what is in the best long-term interest of the country.
And I think that we'll see over time that this is gonna pay off big time.
That's my prediction.
Yeah, I think that, you know, Sean.
Thank you.
And I I I thank you for being such uh patriot and for just being out there.
And I don't know, just like I said, I love to listen to you.
I love the whole Patriot channel.
I've learned so much.
I feel like I am truly an educated, rational thinking person.
And I can just tell you this.
Watching these idiots on MS DNC, ABC, CBS, MBC, CNN.
I just don't.
The only reason we play cuts of them, frankly, is I I'm I'm frankly abusive towards my staff in this sense.
I make them watch and listen to things that I would never watch or listen to.
That's pretty mean, right?
I think it sounds a little mean.
Um but it's important that we know what they're saying, but I I couldn't tolerate watching that crap for five seconds.
I just couldn't.
You know, if I I I they're just so off base, so full of hatred, so radicalized, that I if they think they're going to be persuasive with the way they've been acting since the election, they they couldn't be more off base than they are.
And now they're they've they're turning on each other.
Usually it used to be Republicans create circular firing squads and they they circled the wagons.
No, this time they've got the circular firing squad.
We're circling the wagons for once, and I hope it stays that way.
Anyway, I gotta run CJ, God bless you.
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