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April 23, 2025 - Sean Hannity Show
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Inside The Plan to Revive America - April 23rd, Hour 3
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What have I been saying about President Trump, the economy, either free and fair trade or reciprocal tariffs?
And what have I been predicting?
I said, yes, there's always skittishness on Wall Street.
And their reaction to news that they view favorably or unfavorably.
I mean, it's almost manic on their part.
And, you know, the last couple of days have been huge.
The day before that, it was a big decline.
And the president has been very clear.
Yesterday, he made it very clear.
I don't particularly like Jerome Powell.
I don't like his monetary policy.
I don't think he's the right guy for the job.
I think it would probably end up being a lawsuit that would be extended for months and months.
And the president, in many ways, has his hands tied in terms of firing the chairman of the Fed unless it is for cause and that becomes a complicated legal issue.
But at the end of the day, what did I say?
Donald Trump is always negotiating and he got the world's attention.
And the world's attention is, oh, well, America's been ripped off, abused, taken advantage of for 50 to 60 years.
And he's got all these countries now begging to do trade deals with the United States.
And I have every confidence that these deals, probably sooner than later, will be announced one after another, after another.
I'd expect a deal with India.
I'd expect a deal with Japan and Korea and Taiwan.
I would expect a deal with Great Britain.
I would expect a deal with European Union countries as well.
I'd expect a deal with China and Mexico.
And I'd also expect a deal with China.
Now, the president addressed this yesterday, first saying that he has no intention of firing Jerome Powell, and two, that we're going to have a fair deal with China, a fair deal.
And I know for a fact that conversations have taken place.
They're just not making a big deal about it publicly.
Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary, mentioned as much yesterday.
Listen.
You have no intention to firing for a while because here Anthony Hassan a few days ago said that you and people selling this idea possibly for hand.
Do you have any plan on dealing with none whatsoever?
Never did.
The press runs away with things.
No, I have no intention of firing him.
I would like to see him be a little more active in terms of his idea to lower interest rates.
It's a perfect time to lower interest rates.
If he doesn't, is it the end?
No, it's not.
But it would be good timing.
It could have taken place earlier.
But no, I have no intention to fire him.
And then he said about China that he's going to have a fair deal with China.
Listen.
Firefight, Mr. President on China.
Are you thinking about lowering their tariffs?
Fair deal with China.
It's going to be fair.
Are you talking to them actively now?
Actively.
Everything's active.
Everybody wants to be a part of what we're doing.
They know that they can't get away with it any longer, but they're still going to do fine.
And we're going to have a country that you can be proud of, not a laughing stock all over the world for many years.
You know, in 1913, they traded to the income tax system.
We used to be all tariff, and we had no income tax.
And we had the wealthiest country we've ever had, proportionately, from about 1870 to 1913.
It was all tariffs, and we did.
We had more money than anybody.
They had committees, how to spend the money.
They had so much money they didn't know how to spend.
Then some brilliant person said, let's go income tax.
Let's let the people pay.
Now, we're going to be able to substantially lower taxes when this is finished.
Anyway, joining us now is Steve Moore.
And, of course, Steve, the author of the best-selling book, Trumponomics, inside the America First Plan to Revive Our Economy.
I know people are very impatient, and I know both of us know people on Wall Street.
I've never been.
I have people that are friends on Wall Street, and there's a lot of people on Wall Street that I'm not particularly fond of.
And I'm sure you probably have the same impression I do.
And it's just the whole system to me seems rigged.
Am I wrong in my perception?
I feel like they have insider knowledge, whether they ever admit it or not.
And by the time the public gets wind of maybe what the good deal is, well, the window is usually closed.
Am I wrong on that perception?
Let me go back to something you said earlier, Sean, where you were talking about the new deal that Trump is working on.
And I have to confess to you, I did a quick CNN interview today.
And the interviewer started this thing.
Steve Moore, isn't this a strategic retreat by Donald Trump from his policies?
I said, well, wait a minute.
You know, you've got the two best days we've seen in a long time on the stock market.
This deal, it's good news.
It looks like China is making some real concessions here, Sean.
And the media is trying to spin this like it's a retreat by Trump when it's a victory by Trump.
He's getting these countries to kowtow to Trump's demands in a very strategic way.
The guy knows the art of the deal.
Now, when he said about the 125% tariffs on China, that was just his opening bid.
That's what the guy does.
Actually, he went up to 145%, but who's counting?
And then China, to their, you know, I guess to their credit, I mean, they fought back and they act like they're going to withhold rare earth minerals from us.
Here's the bottom line.
China needs access to our markets.
Yeah, there are certain things we need from them as well.
And it's in everybody's best interest to get a deal and one that is a lot more fair than the current deal.
That's exactly right.
And that's what, you know, nobody in the media will give Trump a fair hearing here.
It looks like he's got these deals coming in, and that is good for America.
And frankly, it's good for some of these other countries to American farmers and American manufacturing products and our technology products.
So it looks to me, Sean, like this is kind of going according to plan.
Short-term pain, no question about it.
The market took a big hit.
But now all of a sudden, all these countries are pounding on Trump's door.
Please, you know, give us a deal here.
And that's what Trump does.
And by the way, he campaigned on this.
He told us he was going to do this.
Yeah.
And all of this, I think, is predictable, which is why I have not gotten at all worked up about it because I think it's going to resolve itself probably in short order.
The one maybe unanticipated benefit that I don't think gets a lot of play is in the lead up to the announcement of the tariffs by the president.
They were over $8 trillion in commitments and investment and infrastructure in our country.
You know, everything from semiconductors and chips and automotive manufacturing, et cetera, et cetera, all of which is going to create high-paying career jobs for Americans and rebuild our industrial base, which I think we have let deteriorate far too much.
And more importantly, it has national security implications.
I don't want China to be in control of the supply chain as it relates to pharmaceuticals or other important components, be it even rare earth minerals.
And I think we ought to use this as an opportunity to build out other alternatives to get rare earth minerals and not count on China so much moving forward.
Well, that's exactly the strategy.
That's exactly what Trump is doing.
We're going to do a lot more drilling for oil in this country, using our coal, mining for the strategic minerals, which we have in our own backyard in the mountains of Montana and the Dakotas and Colorado.
So we can do this.
It's an America first policy, and it's not an...
By the way, do we have all of the minerals that would be necessary that we need for technology and the next generation of weaponry?
Virtually all of them.
Virtually all of them.
And in fact, no country in the world has more mineral resources than we do out in those western mountains.
What's happened, Sean?
Well, then how did we allow ourselves to get dependent on China on such important components?
Because we haven't been doing any mining in this country in 25 years.
We've got an industry because of the radical green environmentalists to Russia and China.
But I guarantee you, we're going to open up those mines again.
We're going to create the jobs.
We're going to create the resources.
And we're not going to be hostage to these countries any longer.
I mean, what has happened the last 25 years?
We did the same thing with our energy resources.
We've got so much coal, so much natural gas, so much oil.
And, you know, the first thing that they came in was on the pipeline, so we couldn't deliver with the oil.
So this is an America-first energy mineral policy.
And what I was about to say is that the reason you're seeing that, I think you used the number $8 trillion of new investment coming in.
Look, we're going to lower our taxes.
We're going to have plentiful energy in this country.
We're going to have a pro-business president.
And we're going to save money in our budget and the hundreds of billions of dollars.
That makes America a very attractive place to invest in.
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You see, one of the things I would add, and I know the administration on the day they announced all this, you know, they were including and factoring in things such as trade deficits and currency manipulation in terms of the equation that they came up with.
I would much rather make it very simple, free and fair trade or reciprocal tariffs.
The choice is on the other country to decide.
And the next part of the negotiation to me would be buy our energy.
And liquefied natural gas can be produced in massive quantities in fairly short order, according to the experts I've spoken to.
And oil will take a little longer, but even that can be done fairly expeditiously.
Well, we have more, we have 600 years worth of coal.
As you know, Biden basically shut down our coal plants.
We have about 300 years of natural gas, which is an incredible fuel.
It is used for electricity generation.
We don't need...
It's also clean burning, for crying out loud.
That's exactly right.
I could never understand why the environmentalists were against natural gas.
So there's no...
By the way, the same with nuclear power.
I mean, I think France gets about 75% of their electricity from nuclear power.
Am I mistaken?
Idiots in France are now shutting down their coal plants.
I mean, there are nuclear plants, and they're trying to run a country on windmills, which is the dumbest thing you ever saw.
So, look, Trump is a practical businessman.
He's making deals.
This is going to happen.
You're going to see, I think you're going to see him lined up.
I really do, right down Pennsylvania Avenue.
I think these foreign delegations are going to come to Trump, and they're going to make deal after deal after deal.
Every time a deal is struck, the stock market's going to go up.
I mean, I really believe that.
When we get the first quarter GDP, I don't expect it to be great, but one of the things that will be frustrating listening to the commentary that will be associated with it, although the president has done a pretty good job bringing down the price of gasoline and energy and even groceries for that matter.
I mean, we have seen early success and job numbers that nobody expected.
But we've got to remember, too, that we're still living under the Biden-Harris economy.
And we still haven't gotten reconciliation done either.
So really, the scorecard would belong to them, good or bad, no?
Yeah, I was down with Sandra Smith on Fox yesterday, and I made that exact point, Joshua, that two things have to happen to really see a big, big boom in the economy.
I think both will happen.
You've got to get these deals cut on trade, and he's well on the way of doing that.
And second of all, Trump has to sign seal and deliver that tax cut.
I don't know why Congress is taking so long.
It's not a heavy lift.
Just extend those tax cuts, avoid a $4 trillion tax increase next year.
Once those two things are done, and I think they could both be done by Memorial Day, you're going to see, just like Roger Reagan, once he got those tax cuts done, we saw the biggest boom ever.
You're going to see exactly that kind of boomerang effect as soon as Trump gets those two policies done.
And look, he told us there'd be some short-term pain from doing the tariffs.
And we have seen some short-term pain.
Once you get this new trading structure in place, though, this could last a lifetime.
Oh, I agree.
And I think there's going to be more prosperity, more opportunities.
And I think this will solidify probably maybe for generations to come that the Republican Party now has become the party of hardworking men and women, the party of manufacturing, the party that wants lower taxes.
And the Democratic Party is as, you know, they champion and are out championing the release of what a judge, two judges designated MS-13 gang member.
And, you know, this foreigner that is pro-Hamas, as that is their main causes of the day, coupled with championing the right of men to play women's sports and the rights of the illegals over the safety of Americans and not wanting to get rid of hundreds of billions in waste fraud and abuse, they got themselves major, major problems moving forward.
I think they just have lost all touch with the American people, and now they're being led by the squad, Bernie, AOC, and Jasmine Crockett.
I mean, that's the future of their party.
Good luck with that.
Anyway, we appreciate it.
Stephen Moore.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you.
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Well, I see Jasmine Crockett.
Now, I don't know if you saw this tape.
Maybe we'll show it on Hannity tonight.
Jasmine Crockett with that idiot, and he's a total, complete moron, Jimmy Kimmel.
And I was thinking as I heard this, and we'll play what she said in just a second, Linda, but I was thinking about this.
Does she know that this guy dressed in blackface and mocked Carl Malone?
Remember when he did that?
I mean, you know, she's a woke liberal, right?
Does she know that he used to put items in his crotch and tell women they have 10 seconds to use both hands and feel it and figure out what's in his pants, which is pretty creepy to me.
I don't know.
I wonder if Bob Iger, CEO of Woke Disney, approves of these messages.
And so Jasmine's on there, and they have one common denominator, and that is they just hate all things Donald Trump.
And she thinks she's a genius.
And I wanted to keep thinking that.
Here's what she said.
I mean, this is Crockett.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
Now they're going to rely on Crockett to bring him back.
Why does he yell your name?
Crockett over and over.
And then they're going to bring Crockett.
I actually had not watched the clip.
That's my very first time.
My team was aware.
And what does Crockett think about?
I mean, it says a lot when you literally are supposed to be the leader of the free world and you're worried about a rising sophomore in the house.
Yeah.
I'm just saying.
Yeah.
Or you wish she was on your side.
He also called you Mo IQ.
I'm sure you're aware of that.
Would you be willing to take an IQ test publicly head-to-head against the president of the United States?
Absolutely.
I don't think anybody's afraid of Jasmine Crockett.
And I don't really think she quite understands that every time she opens her mouth, she just reinforces to the entire country how radicalized the Democratic Party's become.
But she and AOC and squad members and Bernie, they have emerged as the voice of this radical Democratic Party.
All right.
Al is in Arkansas.
Al, hi, how are you?
Thanks for checking in.
Mr. Hannibal, thank you so much for taking my call, sir.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you.
What's going on?
I have a question for you.
This Senator Van something or other, right?
He flew to Venezuela.
Van Holland.
Yeah.
Right.
And he flew to Venezuela and on Fox, I think he said he wasn't able to see that gang member because he wasn't there in an official capacity, correct?
No, he eventually did get to meet with him briefly.
The four congresspeople that followed, it's like they're lining up to go see the guy that two judges designated as an MS-13 gang member who was in our country illegally.
And now Democrats are lining up to support this foreigner, Khalil, who has been active in supporting Hamas, the designated terrorist organization.
So this is your radicalized left.
Well, my question was: if they went over there and it wasn't under official capacity, who paid for their airline tickets?
Well, we already know the answer.
I mentioned it yesterday.
We paid for those tickets.
They claim it was in their official capacity.
We paid for all their tickets.
Shouldn't the Republicans step up and do some kind of investigation of that?
Listen, I might even consider bringing this guy back.
And what do I mean by that?
If Chris Van Holland is willing to put him up in his house and live with the guy and put an ankle bracelet on him that can't be removed, and if he ever leaves and maybe have a security presence outside the house if he attempts to leave, I might be in favor of him let him live with Van Holland.
Let's see how he likes it.
I don't know.
That the left will never do that, just like they're only generous with your money, not with their own money.
Correct.
Case in point, you know, look at Nancy Pelosi, you know, a mile away from her house in one direction, in the other direction, a mile away from her office, you have all these homeless people defecating in the street and urinating in the street and shooting up drugs and dropping needles all over the place.
Did she ever once think that maybe she can go with her multi-million dollar friends, you know, their mansions and their gated community and raise money and build a homeless shelter that offers, I don't know, soup and a sandwich every day and maybe some mental health assistance and maybe a place to take a shower?
No, they would only do it if it's your money.
Anyway, my friend, appreciate the call.
Norman, Long Island, New York.
What's up, Norman?
How are you, sir?
Hi, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good.
What's going on?
I've never since you were with Hannity and Cohns.
Love your show.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I have a couple of questions for you.
First of all, we shouldn't use the word progressive.
They're not progressive with anything.
They're more regressive or commigressive.
I agree with that.
I think that's a good point.
I just think they're radical nutcases.
They're crazy party.
Progressive means like you're doing things that are pretty good.
They're not doing anything good.
They're regressive.
That's one thing.
The next thing is, I think that Pam Bondi said that if you vandalize a Tesla, that's terrorism.
Well, I think in Minnesota, they have a crime ring that you should go after.
The governor who instigated it, the guy who did it, who was the soldier.
This is the guy in Minnesota that got off scot-free with a slap on the wrist at $20,000 in damage to Teslas.
You're right.
I think that's a crime ring.
You have the governor, the soldier, and the DA who let him off.
I would go after them with the RICO law or some kind of terrorism law that these guys van.
I wouldn't want my club vandalized.
And especially, it was done purposely as a hate crime against Elon Musk.
Let me tell you something.
If they're underestimating Kash Patel and Pam Bondi, Pam, I've known for over 30 years.
Cash I've known for a long time.
If they want to underestimate those two and their willingness to go hard at those that are committing acts of vandalism or worse, domestic terrorism, good luck to them because we're going to find them.
We're going to prosecute them and they're not going to get out for a very long time.
Well, they found them.
They got the governor, they got the soldier, and they got the DA.
And then you had a liberal DA give a sweetheart deal and a slap on the wrist, and the guy walks free.
That makes no sense.
They're all you should go after them.
And another thing.
Thank you, Norman.
Appreciate the call, my friend.
Good point.
Maria, Pennsylvania, next Sean Hannity show.
What's up, Maria?
Hi, Sean.
Thanks for your time.
Just have a question for you.
Caroline Levitt does a great job in getting the message out for Trump, but the mainstream media, of course, they pick and choose what they're going to air.
So my question is, what if Trump did either like a monthly, quarterly Oval Office address, like a State of the Union type thing, in his own words?
Do they have to air?
Like, does mainstream media have to air it so everybody can hear it from him without?
They don't have to air it.
No.
As a matter of fact, they often don't air it.
And even though it's a president-making news, and you know, if it was Joe Biden, they would air it.
And but with that said, it's one of the reasons why nobody trusts them or counts on them and why legacy media is now officially dead and they just don't know it yet.
Anyway, Maria, God bless you.
Appreciate you.
Donna, Kansas, next Sean Hannity show.
Hi.
Sean, thank you for taking my call.
I would like to respond about Mr. Vandal, and I don't want to elevate him to senator.
If he wants to test this guy every day to have, make sure that he's alive down in El Salvador, I think we should test him to see if he has a brain every day.
They want proof of life.
We need daily proof of life.
The funny part is the El Salvadorian president is like, I'm not, you people are a joke.
Look, all of this now is solidifying into a narrative.
And the Democrats, it is actually amazing.
Never get in the way if an opposition party is self-destructing.
And it's everything that we've said.
They had an opportunity in the Senate to protect women's sports.
No, they'd rather champion men's rights to play women's sports.
They've had an opportunity to secure our borders.
They lied to us for four years.
And they're putting the rights of Biden-Harris illegals over the safety and security of the American people.
They'd rather go to El Salvador and put on a performative art show and meet with a guy that was designated a wife beater by his wife and by two judges as an MS-3 team member.
That's their cause celeb while ignoring people in Van Holland's case in his own state that were brutally raped and murdered.
If that's the party, great.
If they won't stand for mothers that lost children at a joint session of Congress, if they won't applaud a 12-year-old that beat cancer or stand for a young wife that lost her hero husband police officer, then it tells you everything you need to know.
And if their voices now are Bernie, AOC, Jasmine, and the squad, then that also tells you everything you need to know.
And all they have is vitriol and hate.
And Donald Trump, in the meantime, is going about the business of trying to do very transformational things that hopefully will restore constitutional order in our country, hopefully sooner than later.
These things will take time.
I imagine by the time we get to November 26th, we're going to be a lot better off than we are today.
Okay.
I need to say a couple more things, please.
They need to have a common sense test before they ever run for political office.
They need to pass a bill in the Senate and in the House through the Appropriations Committee that if they are going on a trip out of the country, that needs to be approved as a, we will pay for it as a taxpayer or we will not pay for it as the taxpayer.
If this is to promote your own political status, then it should not be paid for by the taxpayer.
And every one of these people should pay back what they have charged me for going out of the country.
I kind of agree with you.
I mean, why are we paying for this guy to go visit an illegal immigrant?
And why are we paying the airfare and the hotels for these congresspeople that went as well?
And it really is pretty spectacular.
Anyway, real quick, Joanne in Florida, thank you, Donna.
Joanne, you have about a minute.
It's all yours.
Go for it.
Yesterday, there was a commentary, a speaker from Harvard.
I missed his name, but I did catch that he branded President Trump a Hitler.
And I think that was pure ignorance, and it really requires some enlightenment because President Trump lived a real life of more than 50 years as an entrepreneur and a capitalist.
Hitler didn't build skyscrapers all over the world and in the USA.
A grain of common sense tells us that President Trump bought more roof shingles and concrete and two by fours than all of the Congress members combined, and certainly more than the Harvard spokesperson, all of which was ludicrous while President Trump was employing thousands of people.
But understand something, Joanne.
And logic has to take over here.
If this is what they're reduced to, and that was their closing argument in the campaign, and it didn't work then, it means that they've lost the argument.
They just don't know it yet.
And they've lost the support of the American people, as evidenced by another poll that shows them in the 20% approval range.
Anyway, I do appreciate your call, 800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
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The Dems want to stand on the steps singing terrible songs and cursing out Trump.
You know, you have one guy over there shouting, Ever wonder if these people ever go to work?
Me too.
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