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Bringing America Back to Life - April 15th, Hour 2
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If you want to be a part of the program, all right, the Trump tariff effect.
We're now officially at $8 trillion committed investments for the next four years for manufacturing inside the United States.
And, you know, everything from Apple, the announcement yesterday from NVIDIA.
And very interestingly, and I brought this up yesterday, that, you know, the number of American cars sold to the European Union is about $8.9 billion a year.
Sounds like a lot of money, but then when you compare it to the number of cars from the European Union that we buy in America, it's nearly $50 billion.
And one of the main reasons is that Europe has a 10% tariff on any automobile imports from America.
And we only have a 2.5% tariff or had a 2.5% tariff.
Now the president's raising it.
And secondarily, they have a VAT tax, a value-added tax, a national sales tax, and that's another 20%, which adds a whopping 30% to the final sticker price of an American car, never mind the shipping cost, that is sold to the European Union.
Now, we not only have gone through, we went through NVIDIA news yesterday and all the other committed investments from countries and companies and Apple and too many to name and list right now.
And I've scrolled that on TV many, many times.
But now these overseas companies, along with 130 countries, now looking to make deals with the Trump administration, my hope is the president will keep it simple, give every country the option, free and fair trade or reciprocal tariffs, and other issues like selling oil or currency manipulation or unfair trade practices or trade deficits, you know, I think can be dealt with separately.
And that'll be part of ongoing negotiations.
But for 50, 60 years, we have had nothing but establishment and institutionalized thinking in Washington.
And we have allowed this ripping off of America to continue, even with many of our allied countries.
It's got to come to an end.
Somebody has to draw a line in the sand.
Now, the number of overseas companies that are looking to shift their operations to the U.S. to mitigate the impact of the president's tariffs, the number is growing dramatically.
BMW, for example, now considering adding shifts to their Spartanburg plant in South Carolina to boost output by 80,000 units.
And Honda, the Japanese car maker, they plan to move some car production from Mexico to Canada.
We've talked about that.
The same with Nissan, their aim is to make 90% of cars sold in the country inside of America.
Hyundai, we talked about their multi, multi tens of billions of dollars that they're going to invest in the U.S.
And they are committed now to building their vehicles and even building a new factory in Georgia, they said.
Anyway, here for his analysis of all of it is former Speaker of the House New Kingrich.
Because you're my older brother, I know that you absolutely, knowing you so well, are not in freak out mode like so many other establishment institutionalists in Washington, D.C.
And you yourself were a disruptor, not an iconoclast when you were the Speaker.
And I imagine that you fully expected this to happen, but let's see how it plays out, no?
Well, I just came back from six days in South Korea, and the businessmen I talked with there were very basically calm.
They said, look, we're going to negotiate.
The United States is extraordinarily important to the survival of South Korea, and we're going to find ways to work with the president.
And I think from their standpoint, what you're seeing is a profound shift from a deal that had been struck really right after the collapse of the Soviet Union, in a sense that we could open up the American market and get ripped off every morning.
And people like the Chinese were eager to come in and do it.
And as you pointed out about the Europeans, I mean, the entire European model, both on defense and on trade, relied on basically being able to rip off the Americans and that we were going to be passive enough and pleasant enough that we would tolerate it.
And I think Trump, in that sense, clearly, just as domestically, I think he is the end of the Roosevelt era after 90 years.
I think in international relations, he is going to be setting up a very different regime where the United States is going to be pretty tough about making sure promises are kept and making sure that we don't get ripped off.
And I think this is overdue, and I think that there's going to be turmoil.
I mean, let's be clear.
There's going to be a period here where mistakes will be made.
There'll be a period where you'll negotiate.
And the Trump model is always to go way out and have a huge demand and then work your way back to a deal.
And the uncertainties will be real.
But my hunch is that long before the end of this year, people will begin to realize a massive increase in American investment, massive increase in American jobs, and that most of them are going to be high-paying, really good manufacturing jobs.
And the choice of the American people is simple.
You know, which do you value more?
Really good jobs in America or the right to buy really cheap products from China.
The Chinese, I think, are initially running a bluff.
Their economy is too small to go head-to-head with us and have any hope in the long run of succeeding.
And they, much like the Germans, they rely unbelievably heavily on exports.
And as these markets close down for them, they're going to have a very, very hard time with their own economy domestically over the next five to ten years.
All right.
Let me ask you specifically about China.
And, you know, I went through the absolute, you know, there's not a single product manufactured in America that they don't put massive tariffs on.
And they create huge barriers for American products to be sold in China.
And they have been ripping us off and taking advantage of us forever.
And now they're trying to insult us and actually suggest that we are peasants here in the U.S. and that we would wail in front of the 5,000 years of Chinese civilization, which is okay.
I mean, I can take a good insult as well as anybody.
But then China suspended their rare earth exports, trying to kneecap U.S. industry, relying on Beijing's monopoly because about 90% of the parts, they halted an order that they had for Boeing jets.
And in many ways, this might be the moment where America has a major wake-up call that we have been too reliant.
COVID should have been the wake-up call because we realized that so many of our pharmaceuticals were being produced in China, and they're not a reliable partner.
And they inflicted COVID on the entire world, lied about it the whole time with the help of the World Health Organization.
And this now is an issue, as far as I'm concerned, a national security, especially when it comes to semiconductor investment.
And we see massive hundreds of billions now being invested in that.
I think in the end, this might be the best thing for national security and for the economy.
I just got a note a little while ago from somebody you know well, Congressman Bob Walker, who used to chair the Science and Technology Committee.
He's working with a group right now, and they think within six months, they'll have solved the entire rare earth problem with China.
And what the Chinese are going to do is they're going to force us to go out and innovate and invest.
But there's nothing that we get from China that we can't ultimately generate here at home.
And I think that that's what this fight's all about.
And I think we're seeing now they're almost in a temper tantrum.
I mean, they can get in a big fight with Boeing and get in all sorts of lawsuits over whether or not they're going to legally pay for things they've contracted for.
But in the long run, we make the best equipment in the world, and we make the most advanced technology in the world.
And the truth is, if you took the amount of money in intellectual properties by stealing from our various companies and stealing from our university and government laboratories, that amount annually has been stunning and is a major factor in the rise of China.
And as we get tougher about this stuff, they're going to suddenly find that they're going to be cut off from many of the sources of technology that they'd relied on for the last 25 years.
What do you think happens with countries like the EU and Japan and Korea and Taiwan and India?
Now, we've already seen Great Britain just yesterday, the prime minister there lifted tariffs on nearly 90 U.S. products coming into Great Britain, which I thought was basically the Trump effect again.
This $8 trillion in committed investment is real money.
That's real investment money for this country.
I think it certainly will take a little time for this to get into the bloodstream of the economy.
But what will these other countries do in your view?
Well, you know, Mark Tiessen wrote a really interesting column and said, Trump may be the most effective free trader in history.
Now, what he's basically said to all these countries is, you want access to our market.
We've got to have access to your market.
You want to cut us off, we're going to cut you off.
And I see country after country where they're coming forward now.
The Japanese prime minister said, look, we are not going to retaliate.
We're going to work through this.
We're going to find a way to get it done.
I had the same tone when I was in Seoul, South Korea over the last five days, where their attitude was, how do we work this out?
Not how do we get in a big fight?
And none of them have an interest in shifting from being focused on the U.S. to becoming focused on the Chinese, just because the Chinese dictatorship is frankly so frightening and so hostile and basically rips people off so much that nobody wants to make that their primary reliance.
Well, I agree.
And President Xi can go all around the world as he's currently doing.
He's on a tour to try to entice other countries to choose them over us.
I don't think the world sees them as a reliable partner, especially because of their unfair trade practices, their massive tariffs, their intellectual property theft, and the fact that they're using sweatshop labor to produce pretty much everything that they're producing.
Look, between artificial intelligence, robotics, and a whole range of other breakthroughs, we're going to be the most productive, the most exciting place on the planet.
And you're going to wake up in the morning as a business person and say, okay, do I want to work with the Americans inventing the future, with the Europeans regulating the past, or with the Chinese ripping everybody off?
And I think we're going to win that competition by a very big margin.
I think so, too.
Now, what do you say to the naysayers, these people on Wall Street that have been in a never-ending state of freak-out ever since Donald Trump made the announcement?
Okay, do I want to work with the Americans inventing the future, with the Europeans regulating the past, or with the Chinese ripping everybody off?
And I think we're going to win that competition by a very big margin.
I think so, too.
Now, what do you say to the naysayers, these people on Wall Street that have been in a never-ending state of freak out ever since Donald Trump made this announcement?
Now, the markets have settled with the 90-day reprieve, but as a result, you have 130 countries that are begging for deals.
My hope is, and the New York Post had a pretty good editorial on this today, is that the president signs deal after deal after deal, which I would equate to win after win after win for America generally, for American workers overall, and the American economy, and manufacturing and American security as well.
I think it runs that deep.
I think that's right.
And I think also you have to remember that you have a Secretary of the Treasury who actually knows what he's doing and who so far, I think, has done a really good job.
And so from that standpoint, I think that we are in a pretty good position to expect that we're going to get a lot of deals.
Scott Besson's done a great job so far.
And I think what you're going to see happen, remember, if you are a lot of the guys in New York who manipulated markets, who were quite happy to close down American factories while you made tons of money out of children, for example, making Nike sneakers in China, this is all an enormous shock because you didn't mind weakening the American economy as long as you got a lot richer.
And so I think there's a legitimate reaction from the people who basically for the last 25 years have favored China over the U.S. and how they made their investment strategies.
And they had a vision which is sort of the Davos vision in Switzerland of that gathering of billionaires that they were going to somehow be lords of the universe and the rest of us are all peasants, which may be why the Chinese used the word peasant yesterday.
But the fact is, if you want to talk about peasants, I would say maybe they need to look inward as they're the ones with all the sweatshops and the oppression of all these minority groups as well.
Well, look, I think the fact is when you get beyond Shanghai and Hong Kong and Beijing, and you start going into the interior, you still have a country that's relatively primitive and relevant and very poor.
And they have a lot of internal tensions.
And I think that to some extent their reaction is hysteria rather than systematically thought through.
President Trump starts with a very simple model.
This is the biggest economy on the planet.
It's the most desirable place to be selling things.
And we want to make sure that if you're going to sell here, you're going to build here.
You're going to create jobs here.
And people are rapidly, you know, in the first three months of his presidency, the number of jobs that have been committed, the number of factories that have been committed, it's astonishing.
This is rapidly going to become the biggest construction boom probably in American history, at least since World War II.
And you're just going to see lots and lots of people getting good jobs.
And you're going to see the United States once again leading the world.
And that'll be compounded by the breakthroughs in things like robotics and artificial intelligence and advanced chemistry.
And then for that matter, advanced biology.
In every one of these areas, we're going to lead the planet pretty dramatically.
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I see Gretchen Whitmer.
I mean, it was so weird.
Gretchen Whitmer is the governor of Michigan.
Michigan has been devastated by tariffs that have incentivized a lot of companies to build their manufacturing plants, auto manufacturing plants out of the U.S.
And then they charge massive tariffs on any American products coming into their country, including a lot of friendly countries, allied countries, supposedly friends like this who needs enemies, right?
And meanwhile, we provide for the national defense of many, if not most of them.
And anyway, so Gretchen Whitmer has watched the population of Detroit, you know, literally go in half, a once great city.
They're bulldozing entire neighborhoods to consolidate neighborhoods and services.
I mean, there was a period you can go on eBay and buy a home in Detroit for a dollar because people wanted to get rid of it and any tax liability that they had.
So if anybody should be concerned or happy about the president fighting to bring back, what, $8 trillion in investment in manufacturing back home and incentivizing Nissan and Hyundai and Honda and all these other auto manufacturers to build in America, you would think it would be the people of Michigan, and maybe they could take these mothballed, you know, auto plants and build them back up and create high-paying career jobs.
I know the UAW leaders, they would love it and workers would love it.
And so she goes to the White House, but she's embarrassed she went.
And she puts a, she's literally, they're taking a picture of her and she covers her face.
Here's her excuse about it.
How was the Oval Office yesterday?
Well, I think you heard the young man there.
You got to show up, right?
If you want results, you got to show up.
So you're showing up in Michigan.
Did he make you feel comfortable?
You know, I did not know.
They walked me in.
I thought I was going into our private meeting.
And of course, it was that press conference.
But I did have the opportunity to chat with the president, as you heard him say.
There's some great things about self-age, about protecting the Great Lakes.
And I also, the primary purpose, was to talk about the ice storm.
Today, I want to talk a little bit about the power of certainty.
We could all use more of it, especially these days.
I mean, one minute, you're certain you're at the White House for a meeting, and the next you find yourself in a press conference.
Emer, you've been in the news a lot lately.
You've been busy.
Yeah, how was Washington?
Did you?
I had watched your speech that morning, and I thought it was great.
I thought you had touched upon really the high points of what's important and the ships, chips, and cars.
Yep.
And then about 90 minutes later, or so there was a change in the direction of the news coverage?
Yeah.
And the next morning I woke up, and there you are in the paper.
Beautiful picture of you.
You asked me what was going through your mind at that moment, and it was, I don't want my picture taken.
That's all it was.
I kind of wish I hadn't put my folder up in front of my face, but whatever.
I don't want my picture taken.
What politician doesn't want their picture taken in the Oval Office?
Oh, that's right.
Only one that really is begging for help from Donald Trump, but doesn't want the world to know about it.
All right.
Speaking of Michigan, we have Jennifer.
Jennifer, you're on the Sean Hannity Show.
Hi.
Hi.
Thanks for taking my call.
Oh, Gretchen Whitmer is just the worst, but having her in the Oval Office, to witness President Trump signing the EO on the 2020 election fraud was savage.
That was such a brilliantly calculated and deliberate move on Trump's part.
And just seeing the humiliation on Whitmer's face, oh, that was gold.
That was pure gold.
It was pure gold.
I mean, it was hiding her face, doesn't want to be seen there, but definitely wants the policies, needs the policies for her own political survival.
Oh, I don't think she's going to survive what else Trump has up his sleeve.
And I hope A.G. Nessel and Secretary of State Benson, I hope they're paying attention because what went on in Detroit at 2020 election?
Yeah, we're not stupid.
We're not blind.
We saw what went on.
So we've been patient, and I just haven't stopped smiling since November 5th.
So it's all going to be.
You know what?
You shouldn't stop smiling.
And, you know, again, the Republican Party now and the MAGA movement is emerging as the representatives of hardworking men and women.
And the Democratic Party is the party of woke, radical, extreme, coastal elites that are completely out of touch with the people that make this country great.
And I'm telling you, this is transformational politically.
And this could change, you know, this could literally change demographics and states.
If everything works out, hopefully over time, and it takes time, this could dramatically shift the electorate, I think, for a generation or more.
And I hope it does.
Jennifer, we appreciate you.
Glad you're out there.
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Ralph in New Hampshire.
Hey, Ralph, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean, thank you for taking my call.
I was going to talk to you about tariffs.
You know, I look at tariffs at some of the product that China sells and everything.
They're going to be stuck with that stuff.
So it'll be like a reverse boycott, so to speak.
I don't know if you can remember the boycotts back in the day.
People don't buy things, and guess what?
They get stuck with the product, and eventually they have to sell it to somebody because he can't sit on it.
And hopefully that'll happen, and prices will come down in a lot of products if this keeps going on.
Yeah.
Well, I'm just telling you right now, it is China now has gotten so aggressive and so confrontational.
And let them do that.
And I actually agreed with the New York Post editorial today.
Let the president now go forward with other countries, allied countries.
There are 130 plus of them, and sign deal after deal after deal, free and fair trade or reciprocal tariffs.
That's going to be up to them.
They can deal with other financial issues.
One of the big ones to me would be selling American energy to these countries abroad that desperately need it for national security reasons.
And let's see how this plays out.
I would bet that China needs access to our markets.
And if China wants to keep playing hardball, let them try, but they picked a fight with the wrong guy.
And President Xi can go around the world all they want.
The world doesn't trust China, and they don't trust him.
You know, earlier in the program, I can give you the list and go through it again and again and again of all of the things that China is hitting us with massive tariffs on.
And they have basically they've been in a tariff war against us, and we've taken it, and they've been abusive in it.
And I think it's time for America to not be abused anymore and not be ripped off anymore.
And China, in spite of what they're posturing, is going to have to come to the table at some point, or America will just emerge as the world's economic leader.
Now, in the end, there might be, look, there might be a short period of time where there's some pain and transitional difficulties, but frankly, they're not a reliable partner.
I don't want our pharmaceuticals produced in China.
I don't want our semiconductor chips produced in China.
And there are other partners We can deal with that will manufacture and deal with rare earth minerals and everything else that we're going to need.
America will have options and does have options, and we're going to use them.
Yeah, sounds good.
All right, my friend.
God bless you, Ralph, and live free or die.
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Jim, Wisconsin.
Jim, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean, thanks for taking my call.
Thank you.
Points I want to bring up is the Democrats are always fighting voter ID and term limits.
People should have to ask themselves why when it would just as likely affect a Republican politician as well.
Case in point, DeSantis can't run again.
His term ends in 2027 where it's fair all the way around.
And I don't know why anybody would be fighting those two ideas.
One other thing I want to bring up is: I moved three years ago to Wisconsin from Illinois, left a good high-paying union job.
I just could not stand being in that state one second longer.
And my wife and I went to a Trump rally in Wisconsin, a bus stop tour, and the town hall meeting.
And one message they gave at all three of those was not to stop getting out to vote.
Case in point, Susan Crawford just won instead of Brad Schimmel.
And Derek Van Orden, our rep, was on the radio a few days back and said that 600,000 Republican voters did not turn out for that election.
And how easily Crawford could have been defeated.
She won by 300,000 votes, and there was 600,000 people that didn't vote.
And it's just shame on every Republican that didn't get out for the well, there's one thing you're not factoring in that I believe was a big part of that special April 1st election.
And I think that the conservative justice, who I liked on issues, was on record as supporting an 1800s law on abortion in Wisconsin that made no exceptions for rape incest of the mother's life.
Now, when you go back and you look at when Josh Shapiro beat Doug Maustriano in Pennsylvania going back a number of years ago, that was the year Oz was running against Fetterman.
So I was very familiar with that race, and Maustriano had no exceptions for rape, incest, mother's life.
It is, to me, especially in a swing state, an untenable position for any Republican to get elected in, period, end of sentence.
Whether you like, forget about where you stand on the issue.
Now, it's kind of a moot point because the Supreme Court codified the abortion pill, which is basically a first trimester law that allows for abortion and its availability around the country.
So I think in that sense, we're at 10 to 12 weeks now.
And now it's a matter of what states prefer and the states will make that decision.
And I think I just don't believe in any swing state that I can think of that if you have that position on abortion, that you can win a statewide election.
That's my position.
Do you think I'm wrong?
Oh, no, no, I would agree with you.
Yeah.
But, you know, I mean, and 300,000 votes was nothing.
I think that that is a big issue for a lot of Americans.
And it doesn't matter what my position is.
I'm just looking at this purely from a political standpoint, not a moral standpoint.
But the country, even look at Mississippi, 15 weeks.
Look at Ohio.
What did they go to?
I think they went to 16 weeks.
And these are red states that are overwhelmingly supporting first trimester or a little bit longer abortion laws.
And I think, you know, then you get to the point where, okay, when is the feed as viable?
And I think signs might even change the entire equation and the debate over time.
Well, we'll have to wait and see.
So it just is a little bit more complicated.
It's sad because this very liberal justice Crawford is going to have to weigh in on issues of redistricting.
And the Democrats will gerrymander and they may pick up as many as two seats.
I tried to warn people about the consequences of that election, but it is what it is.
And I think Republicans have to be very, very smart in who they decide to run in these elections, period.
And that does matter, especially in a swing state like your state of Wisconsin.
Although I think Wisconsin has the possibility of being a red state if Republicans can get all of these issues right.
And that happens to be an important issue.
We saw the consequences after Roe v.
Wade was overturned in terms of the next cycle.
There was great impact.
And then the state started adopting laws responding to the people in their respective states.
And then people calmed down about it.
And Democrats really don't have the ability to demagogue it.
In this case, I think they had the ability to demagogue it.
Jim, we appreciate you, man.
Thank you.
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