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US Aid Whistleblowers - February 7th, Hour 3
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And you know, if people want to take on Linda and defend her, they can, even though she didn't know how many points you get for a field gold.
Uh but we'll get to that later.
Um a big story of the week.
And this this to me is actually amazing.
And I I think it is such a political miscalculation on the part of the left to double down on the hundreds of billions of dollars and waste fraud, abuse, and just outright corruption.
And I would even use the word stealing your hard-earned tax dollars.
The average American makes sixty-six thousand dollars a year.
It's not a lot of money.
And those people work hard, play by the rules, obey the laws, they pay their taxes.
And if you ask any American, I don't care if you're a Democrat, Republican, live in a blue state, red state, doesn't matter.
Do you want to spend 20 million dollars on a Sesame Street show in Iraq?
Or 56 million to boost the Egyptian and Tunisia tourism, or 40 billion building schools in Jordan when we have failing schools in America, or 11 million telling the Vietnamese to stop burning trash, or 45 million to DEI scholarships in Burma and 520 million dollars for consultant-driven ESG investments in Africa.
I have 10 pages of this madness.
You know, they're paying taxpayer hard-earned taxpayer money for DEI musicals in in Ireland and 2.5 million for electric vehicles in Vietnam.
I mean, this is this is insanity.
We're giving money that benefits the Taliban for crying out loud.
You know, $47,000 for transgender opera in Colombia, transgender comic books in Peru.
You know, DEI programs in Serbia.
It just goes on and on and on.
It probably I I am so angry at this.
You know, 44.8 million for food assistant economic support for Venezuelan illegal immigrants in Colombia.
You gotta be kidding me.
You know, six million for the corrupt WHO, uh for health coordination in Gaza.
This is this is madness.
Twenty-four million for green transportation uh programs and logistics in Georgia, twenty-nine million for agricultural trade diversification program in in Georgia.
You know, and and the money just goes on from there.
And it is absolutely a twenty-four million dollar grant for a green economy program also for Georgia.
When does this insanity stop?
Mark Moyer, uh, who's with Hillsdale College and a professor there, great school, as you know, uh, had written a book, Masters of Corruption, how a federal bureaucracy sabotage the Trump presidency.
Well, it turns out he was a U.S. aid whistleblower.
I had not heard about him.
And anyway, joins us today to talk about everything that he had learned about U.S. aid and and now that it's come to the forefront in our country.
Um I gotta be honest, uh Dr. Mark, I'm I'm shocked.
And I am angry.
And I think every American that pays taxes should feel like that should feel as angry as I feel.
But you've known about this for a while.
Tell us about your whistleblower status.
Yes, uh, great to be with you, Sean.
And uh yes, people are right to be shocked and uh and angry.
And I did start talking about this before, but when I first started talking about it, people did, well, we don't know what USAID is.
And so it's now been thrust into the spotlight and I think getting the attention.
Uh it deserved, but yeah, I was a Trumble Pointee in the first Trump administration and I went in there and I really didn't know that much about the place, and so I thought I was going to be trying to sort of focus on reorienting towards Trump's priorities.
And this was an issue before where you had people trying to do things that really weren't in people's interests.
But before I really got into that, I encountered corruption within the office that I was in charge of, and so I reported that thinking that you know they would take swift action and punish the people involved.
Uh, but what happened was they ended up allowing the the worst person, I mean, there were five people I reported, the worst guy ended up leaving the agency and going to work at the Department of Defense and keeping his job.
In the meantime, they came after me, suspended my security clearance on uh bogus charges that I had disclosed classified information, and then was put on leave and then ultimately fired.
And this is unfortunately By the way, aren't there whistleblower protection laws that should protect you?
And and I if I was you, I'd be pursuing that and getting your back pay.
Well, that's that's uh partly what I cover.
So I go after I'm fired, I go to the inspector general who's supposed to protect these things, and they tried to claim I wasn't a whistleblower and that I had um not met the standards, which was ridiculous as well, and then so it got in the public, and Senator Grassley then got involved on my behalf and started asking questions.
But um when the administration's turnover, when Samantha Power came in head of USAID, she said, Senator Grassley, I'm not gonna answer any more questions, because I'm I only give that to a committee chair and and you're no longer a committee chair.
So as you said, there's this long pattern that they refuse to answer to even Congress.
Um, you know, I've actually if Sense had to sue to try to get the files that they had on me, because I'm sure they're full of uh baloney, uh, but I'm still in court, and this is now you know five years later.
Let me play Samantha Power responding, you know, and trying to defend the indefensible and the reckless abuse of taxpayer dollars.
You think this is a victory for dictators, autocratic regimes around the world who are competing with the U.S. in Africa, in South America, all around the world for influence.
Well, it's not even an opinion.
They are out relishing this moment and celebrating it, uh, including a statement, an official statement from the Russian foreign ministry uh today.
So this is a disaster not just from a humanitarian standpoint, from the standpoint of all the beneficiaries who may in fact die uh because they won't have access uh to U.S. resources, but it's a disaster for U.S. national interests and national security.
They're going to die.
And the US net no.
Because they're paying for new Green Deal is a worldwide, woke programs worldwide, transgenderism, DEI, abortion programs, and and this has nothing to do with what she's describing.
She's just flat out lying in my view.
Do you agree with me based on the knowledge of the how the money is spent?
Yes.
I mean, when she came in, she pushed to have DEI, gender, climate change infused into just about everything the agency does.
And so she, in fact, probably more than anyone else deserves the blame for what's happening because the taxpayers, Congress, and uh President Trump have fed up, and so that's why you're seeing finally they're going to they're really taking charge and forcing the agency to turn over all this information that will eventually expose all the bad things that have happened.
I mean, you've heard this all week that they're just losing their mind.
What why do they care about uh you know why would they want to die on this hill?
Now there are a few Democrats.
John Fetterman is one.
David Oxarat is another another.
Ram Rumbo deadfish uh Emmanuel is another.
Uh James Carville is another.
And he's saying they're all saying to The Democrats, are you really that stupid?
You think the American people want hundreds of billions of dollars and waste fraud and abuse and foreign aid spent on these, you know, radical uh agenda items?
Are you really that out of touch?
But based on the recent election of the Democratic leadership, the Democratic National Committee, I I imagine that they they probably they're not going to change at all.
They haven't learned a thing from this election.
Yeah, well, I think you've got two things at play.
One is you've got some ideological fanatics who think DEI has to be everywhere and they will do whatever they can.
Now the other part of it though is you also have greed, and what you see with you know U.S.8 has a forty-two billion dollar budget, and so far we're just seeing the tip of the iceberg.
But what we're gonna find, what we've already started to see is that much of this money finds its way to contractors or NGOs that are overwhelmingly controlled by Democrats, and so they have a financial stake uh in in this, and that's partly why I think you're seeing so much backlash.
Yeah.
Uh it's it's pretty amazing.
So your case moves forward, you expose all of this, you see the reaction this week.
Did you know how bad it was?
Did you know it was this bad?
Well, I knew it was pretty bad, but I think we're gonna get more, you know.
I I didn't think by the way, this is only one agency.
That's the most amazing part of this.
Yes.
This is just the beginning of my my mind, no.
Yeah, and what's really been remarkable is they've been able to go in and get all the files because of the first Trump administration when I was there, we could never get our hands on everything because the bureaucrats found ways to hide it.
And so we saw last week they went to the Office of Security and asked for complete control of the files and uh had to threaten to bring in the U.S. Marshals, and they end up removing the head of the security office.
But now we're really going to get to see what's going on.
I and I think we're gonna find some even more stunning instances of corruption and and ideological abuse.
All right, quick break, we'll come right back.
Uh more with Dr. Mark Moyer.
He's been a whistleblower.
He was blowing the whistle on on USAID or USAID for a long time.
He wrote the book Masters of Corruption, how the Federal Bureaucracy Sabotage the Trump presidency, and uh sadly he's you know now involved in a lawsuit because uh he wasn't given the proper whistleblower protections he deserved, more with him on the other side than your calls.
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He's a U.S. AID whistleblower, the big story of the week, and he's been ahead of the curve, and even he didn't know how bad this was, uh, but he's paid a dear personal price for trying to expose all this.
Who are the people responsible after you came forward to expose this?
Do you know the people that were responsible uh for uh uh taking away your security clearance, even though you were trying to call attention to waste fraud and abuse?
Yes, I have a pretty good idea, and it cover this a lot in the book, but what uh appears to have happened is the person who uh one of the corrupt people I reported convinced somebody at the Department of Defense to claim that I had published classified information in a book that had come out two years earlier and had been submitted through pre-publication review in accordance with the non disclosure agreement,
uh, and then they put me on leave based on that, investigated, and then came back and said, Well, we aren't gonna turn over evidence as due process would suggest, but basically we're gonna take this accusation from the defense department as gospel.
We we don't have to dispute it, and they use that to fire me, which of course just Well, wait a minute.
Pre-publication review means that before your book is ever published, that you give it to the respective agencies, and they go over they're supposed to go over it with a fine-toothed comb, and then they're supposed to sign off on the content to make sure that there is not anything top secret or anything classified in that book.
And they gave you the sign off on the book that you eventually published.
Is that correct?
Yes, well, it's a little more complicated than that.
So the defense department is notorious for just stonewalling.
So the non-disclosure agreement is for 30 days, 30 working days.
After seven months, they still hadn't gotten around to it.
And um they just kept saying we need more time, which is you know, that's sort of a form of censorship if you try to withhold permission.
So there's a uh a regulation that says you can give them 30 days notice um that you're gonna publish it, and if they still want to dispute it, they can take you to court.
So I gave him Yeah, but you you gave them every opportunity to go through the book with a fine-toothed comb.
It sounds like you gave them eight months or even longer, and so they don't have an excuse to say that they didn't have an opportunity to, you know, request that something be taken out of the book.
That's correct.
I mean, they had a whole year to to raise complaints.
Never said a word, and then two, you know, uh two years go by and don't hear a peep on it, and then all of a sudden, after I've reported this corruption, they bring this up.
And this of course is a standard tactic of trying to come up with some ridiculous excuse to to target somebody.
Well, we're glad you're uh out there.
We appreciate uh your courage in coming forward and and really being the the tip of the sphere and exposing USAID or USAID uh for all of this foreign money, the billions and billions of taxpayer dollars just poured down the sewer, and every American should be outraged.
Every working man and woman in this country that works so hard and pays all their taxes, they they have no respect for the American taxpayer to do this to them at you know, to advance their radical agenda.
Uh anyway, Mark, appreciate it.
Thank you, sir.
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Senator Kennedy, Louisiana.
We're gonna get back to a little bit of Super Bowl talk, then we'll get to the phones, 800 nine-four one.
Um, was on the show this week on TV.
And he says at one point, I don't know where this came from, but it was pretty funny.
He goes, I like omelets more than sex.
Listen.
Let me try to put all this in context for you.
Um, I like omel.
I mean, I really like omeless.
I could eat an omelet at every meal.
Um I like omel's better than sex.
Um not not really, but you get the point.
I'm like omelish.
So at the end of the segment, I said, Senator, would you like to revise and extend your remarks as it relates to omelets?
No, not really, which is what we love about Senator Kennedy.
I think he's the funniest guy in the U.S. Senate by far.
Um, and I I'm gonna I'm gonna give us one more shot.
Earlier in the week, I asked Linda Uh, if you kick a field ball goal, how many points do you get?
And she said, sometimes one, sometimes two, and I said, wrong.
Let's play it.
Didn't know what an extra point is.
Doesn't matter.
That was then, this is now.
I've grown how many points you get for a field goal.
How many foot points you get for a field goal?
Sometimes one, sometimes two.
Wrong.
Sometimes three answer.
So she got the could she got the answer wrong.
And it's been hard today to get her to acknowledge that she got it wrong.
Would you like to revise and extend your remarks?
Would you like to dig out of the hole that you dug in the last hour?
Is this your nice way of saying you're not going to interrupt me this time?
Because if it is, I'm gonna take it.
Okay, I asked you how many points you get for a field goal.
There's only one answer.
There's not three answers.
You're asking me if I want to revise my answer, which I can elaborate on my answer and expand upon it.
And there's only one answer to that question, though.
No, no, no, there's not.
Because yes, the field goal.
If you kick a field gold, you get three.
We're talking about the opportunity that you're offering me to expand upon an answer I give, not interpret the question you asked.
It's very different.
I'll give you, I'll give you one minute to revise and extend.
Go.
I don't even need one minute.
So what I am explaining to the audience, for those of you who don't know, I am new to football.
This is a new thing for me.
I make the dip, that's about it.
Now I've learned football over the course of the past four to five years, and I'm starting to get my hands around it.
So to me, anything that goes down the field into the goal area through the uprights is a field goal, whether and you know, it's a touchdown or whatever.
So if you say to me, do you get a field goal?
I'm like, yes, sometimes you get that point after the touchdown, and it's good field goal.
Get that two-point conversion, which Katie explained isn't a field goal because it's just a regular point because you can make it by passing.
And then there's the three points that comes from kicking it.
Now, I know all the points, the one point, the two point, the three point.
I just thought they were all different versions of field goals, not knowing that the word field goal was specific to just that kick for three points.
Anywho, that's the big thing.
You welcome.
You got that done in exactly a minute.
See that?
It's almost like I've worked for you for six months.
An extra point is not a field goal.
A two-point conversion is not a field goal.
A field goal, if you kick it, has only one answer.
You get three points.
Those are the like I said, we can go with potato patates.
I appreciate you.
You know, I for somebody with as many master's degrees as you can.
Yeah, I don't have a master's in sports, dude.
It's not my thing.
But the fact that it's four or five years you've been watching football, and this is a lie.
I've been rudimentary knowledge.
This is this is the first it's not rudimentary.
That's a nonsense.
I literally only start at watching football.
First of all, I don't watch NFL, I watch college football.
Um, but I am matter.
You just can't acknowledge you're right.
I I I got that answer wrong.
You just can't say that.
No, I just use different words.
The answer is right.
One, two, and three.
The answer is not right.
The answer was wrong.
And it's not that you use different words.
It's that you didn't know the answer, and you don't want to admit you didn't know the answer.
Are you telling me my explanation doesn't make sense?
Your explanation is it you sound like a liberal.
It's a yes or no question.
Are you telling me that my question doesn't make sense?
I'm telling you your qu your answer doesn't make sense.
Yes.
See, you can't do it.
All right, I have another question.
So I'm gonna be making pork ribs, And I'm gonna be making steaks.
And what else am I making?
Oh, and I have Chicago hot dogs.
We're gonna have sausage and onions.
And I don't know if you've ever melted down Velveeta cheese and you put in rotel and you put in uh ground beef, and then you use like, you know uh tortilla chips.
Oh, it's so delicious.
I'm gonna make that.
That's what I have.
That's on the menu this weekend.
One's on your menu.
So our menu is um Liam asked for cheesy broccoli.
I said, okay.
That's cool.
No, that's pretty cool.
I like that.
Which I thought was funny.
I said, okay, fine.
Um mini cheese.
Whoa, whoa, what kind of cheese are you gonna use for this poor kid?
It's gonna suck.
I'm letting him choose, but it's probably gonna be American.
He loves American cheese.
All right, good kids.
I know.
I mean, that that he's the best.
Um my Anthony loves all things steak, so definitely steak.
And then I'm gonna make uh Buffalo wings, but not too spicy.
And um and a spinach bowl in the bread bowl.
All right, that's not too bad.
It's not too bad, right?
Not too bad that's not too bad.
I mean, I might be able to do that.
I will still have yogurt and granola on the side because you're gonna have yogurt and and a kale shake and uh orange projectile.
Strawberries, all the things.
Okay.
Nobody's going near your area of wherever you're putting your plenty of yogurt.
Uh all right, let's get to our phones as we head in a Super Bowl Sunday.
Chris in New York, what's up, Chris?
How are you doing?
Good to talk to you.
Hey, it's great to talk to you, Sean.
Listen, I got kind of two questions for you.
And the first one's about the Super Bowl.
I certainly hope, and I love your preview of your Super Bowl commercial.
And I certainly say go big or go home.
I hope that you and Brett have a little side bet going that you know, whoever wins the Super Bowl there, that you guys have to wear, you know, a jersey all week long from a different player from the winning team.
I certainly hope that's actually pretty funny.
I I have not talked to him about we had a fun time making the commercial.
We were laughing the whole time.
I know, I really enjoyed that.
But listen, the the the most important question I have is I saw something today with Maxine Waters that I found absolutely disgusting.
She's on the steps of the education department, and there's a man blocking the door, and she used her power.
She called the cameras in and humiliated that man in front of those doors who was, you know, that was his job to block that door.
But what gave her the right?
She even asked him to hold his face up so the cameras can see him.
And I found what she did, Sean was absolutely disgusting.
And and I really think that this needs to be brought out, what she did and how they are acting.
Is this what the Democratic Party has become?
Isn't there some way she could be brought up on charges for humiliating that man for doing his job and using her power and that influence?
You know what?
I I've not seen the video.
Um I'm I'm writing my TV producer as we speak and seeing if I can find it for tonight, okay?
I would really appreciate that because I was in the halls of Congress, right?
She did this right outside the education building.
And I found what she did was absolutely disgusting.
And it was absolutely and she needs to be brought up on chargers.
And that man, I think he should be on your show, and he should be and he should sue her for what he did to her.
I I could just tell you if you go back and get in their faces and you know, all the other comments that she made, and you follow them and they can't go anywhere, any place, you know.
Uh I mean, if if I can you imagine if I ever said any of that, how the left in this country would react.
I wouldn't have a show.
Uh have a great weekend.
Have a enjoy the Super Bowl, my friend, uh Pennsylvania, Robert.
I'm assuming you're cheering for the Eagles.
Am I wrong?
Absolutely not.
Uh by the way, you might want to tell Linda your producer that the point after touchdown, P A T is what it's technically called, and that's value one point.
A little embarrassing that she's an Eagles fan and doesn't know that a field goal is only worth three points.
Ooh, so you're cheering for Kansas City and you live in Pennsylvania.
Wow.
Are you uh are you a Steelers fan?
Oh no, no, no, no.
Eagles fan all the way, all my life.
Oh, Oh, so you're you're pulling for the Eagles this weekend.
Oh, of course.
Of course.
Yeah, yeah.
Gotcha.
Linda uh Linda is allegedly an Eagles fan, but it's you know, she doesn't know what uh a point after.
Listen, I would there's no bigger Broad Street bullies fan than yours, truly.
Bobby Clark, Reggie Lee, Trick McCleeche, Round Dog Kelly, Dave Schultz, Bernie Perron.
I mean, I love that team.
I know Bernie.
Now you're going back to the uh the early 70s when they won back to back uh back to the Stanley Cups.
Remember, Ed Snyder on the uh on the Flyers.
Um one of the greatest moments in hockey is the Russians came and they were kicking the ass of all these NHL teams, and then they went to the spectrum in Philly.
And the Flyers, you know, like from the oh dropping the puck, they went hard in the paint, and they were kicking their ass.
And uh, you know, and meanwhile, they were the the Flyers at that time were hated by every other NAHL team because it was so tough.
And long story short, they won the game, they beat the Russians and and they brought back American respect against the Russians at the time.
Well, well, the Russians didn't want to come out after the uh the inner the interval between the game.
Yeah, no, they left the ice, they quit, and then Ed Snyder, the owner of the Flyers, uh God rest his soul, he passed away.
Uh said, okay, fine, you're not getting paid.
And then they came back out.
They wanted the money.
Exactly, exactly.
Contractually, you're obligated to play this game.
And they came back out and played.
Anyway, good interview with uh BB Netanyahu uh uh last week, early part of the week, it was important.
Uh Sean, I'd like to see, and I've been asking for many, many years, way before this uh incident of uh USA.
This has been going on, you know, probably for the past fifty, sixty years.
This is nothing new.
Uh you know, the the number they band you about now is forty-two billion dollars.
I'm sure it's in the hundreds of billions of dollars at the end of the day.
I'm just talking about USA.
This is one uh this is one agency.
This is hundreds of billions on this radical, woke renew deal, DEI, transgender abortion agenda.
Yeah.
I mean I think uh America's gonna get so angry by the time we get to the bottom of all this.
Forget about that.
If the if you think they hate Elon Musk now, just wait.
They're gonna hate him because he's exposing them.
Look, he's just a messenger.
He's not a decision maker.
You know, he's merely the messenger, and that's who uh they can't hate Trump any more than they hate him, so now they have a secondary person to hate, which is Musk, the messenger.
Why can't the American public have visibility about where this money is going?
Uh I mean line by line by line.
Uh I think you talked about uh maybe your 20 or 30 different uh accounts it was going into, talking about USA, uh 20 or 30 different accounts you were talking about.
But uh I'm sure it's hundreds of places where this money is going to nobody has a clue.
You bring up uh you bring up a great point, and I guarantee you uh that one of the net results of this will be transparency in perpetuity.
They're not gonna be allowed to steal this money again.
They're not gonna be able to abuse us this way again.
And I'll tell you, you know, Democrats, they are no longer the party of working men and women, because to take the average American's taxes, they would make sixty-six grand a year and can barely, you know, make ends meet because of Harris Biden inflation and high energy prices, to take their money and abuse it this way, it is corruption at a level we've never seen before.
On the on the they have abused the American taxpayer.
And frankly, we deserve to get paid back.
We ought to demand that every one of these countries pay that money back.
Um anyway, Robert, listen, good luck to your Eagles.
Uh I'm not highly invested in the Super Bowl like like uh like you are.
A three-peat would be interesting as hell to me.
Uh, but uh I just hope it's a good game.
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