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Meet Doug Burgum - February 3rd, Hour 2

Newly confirmed Interior Secretary Doug Burgum, joins today to discuss his vision for the future of this critical department!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Our number, if you want to be a part of the program, is that we've been pointing out all day, well, what an unbelievable weekend this has been.
And it's everything that I've been saying is America has a chance it hasn't had in over 100 years, and that is to see a real transformation.
Everything from eliminating the size, the scope, the influence of government, and cutting back on waste, fraud, and abuse, and getting our budget in balance and not being stepped on by the rest of the world, which I spent an enormous amount of time talking about in the last hour.
And, you know, to watch hostages released this weekend, terrorists killed this weekend, to see deep state operatives removed from the FBI and the weaponized DOJ.
The Denmark prime minister making overtures about Greenland, wants a deal on Greenland.
It looks like the Panama Canal, the deal with China, is now going to be dead.
Within hours, Mexico caved on the tariff issue, promising 10,000 troops at our southern border, something they said just yesterday that they would not do.
And all the hysteria in the media was absolutely meaningless.
Water now is moving from Northern California to Southern California.
And I can keep going on.
And all of this is happening at a record pace.
It's like shock and awe government, but everything is simple, basic common sense.
You know, before Mexico announced that they were going to retreat, and the Mexican president, she had a conversation with Donald Trump, and they came to an agreement, at least for the next 30 days.
We'll see if they follow through.
You would think that Canada would do the same thing.
Anyway, here is Chuck Schumer just slamming the Trump tariffs.
And the amazing thing to me is Donald Trump has been on the scene now since the moment he came down that escalator.
And all they've known is hatred and calling him the most vile names and bubbling and fizzing like Alka-Saltzer and water at every move he makes.
And yet within hours after he makes this statement, those tariffs are lifted and a deal is made and our southern border will be safer.
And when Donald Trump announces a tariff, basically he's announcing the beginning of negotiations.
And that's what happened here.
And that's what will happen with Canada.
Listen.
We're now in a trade war with Mexico and Canada.
For the American people, it'll now be a war between prices and their paychecks.
That is the last thing we need.
It's going to affect almost everything.
Let's just take Super Bowl Sunday.
Okay.
It's going to affect beer.
Okay.
Most of it, corona here, comes from Mexico.
It's going to affect your guac.
Because what is guacamole made of?
Avocados, both from Mexico.
If you have pizza, it's going to affect the cost of cheese.
So all of these are subject to price increases.
Almost anything that you buy or eat.
You know, I never heard Schumer talk about inflation during the four years of Biden and Harris.
Never heard him talk about Joe's cognitive state, even though it was obvious to the entire world.
He lied about that.
Never once heard him talk about the murders, the murderers, the rapists, the cartel members, the criminals, known gang members in our country that Harris and Biden were allowing in unvetted, including terrorists, into this country.
And if you're really worried about the price of beer, well, there's plenty of American beer, Anheuser-Busch, that you can buy, among many other companies.
Anyway, the newly confirmed Interior Secretary, I can't think of anybody better for this job, former North Dakota governor, now Secretary of the Interior, Doug Bergham, joins us.
Mr. Secretary, great to have you.
And over the course of the campaign, I really had a chance to get to know you and think the world to you.
And I can't think you're the guy for this job for sure.
Well, thank you, Sean.
Great to be with you.
And as you said, wow, it's so exciting to watch President Trump in action.
It's incredible.
Some people make promises about being a politician.
When President Trump makes a promise, he executes on it.
He's executing in record speed.
And as we say, when he ends these wars abroad with his energy dominance vision, I think they should give him the Nobel Peace Prize.
I mean, that's where we're going with this thing.
He's making such a big difference in the world, both at home and abroad.
If Western Europe were to get all of their energy from America rather than Russia, wouldn't that be good for their national security?
Because it would greatly reduce the money that Putin has to wage war against Europe.
If the Iranians are shut down again from oil production, Joe Biden turned a blind eye to the sanctions that were in place.
Won't that bankrupt the number one state sponsor of terror and likely prevent them from fomenting their proxy wars and building out their nuclear technology?
100%, Sean.
You got it.
You understand it.
I mean, Iran was funding 24 different terrorist groups, not just Hezbollah, the Houthis, and Hamas, 24 terror groups around the world.
President Trump had them on their knees financially.
Joe Biden let somehow $200 or $300 billion of revenue flow back into Iran while they were sanctioned, supposedly, through front companies and ghost ships.
And of course, Russia, Russia's been running a very sophisticated psyops operation for a decade, feeding information into Western Europe, into the Green Party in Germany.
I mean, when Elon took over Twitter, 40% of those accounts at Twitter were bots.
You think that the Russians weren't feeding information saying, shut down your coal plants, shut down this?
Germany became completely dependent on Russian natural gas.
That's when Russia invaded Ukraine.
The price went over $100.
Russia made so much money on that move.
They knew they would because Western Europe had no place to go for them.
And it could have been a lot worse if we had not had the capacity here.
The shale revolution, which was driven by technology supported by President Trump, that got us in a position.
That's part of what saved Western Europe, was the U.S.'s ability to actually export that natural gas to them.
But we can now do it from Alaska for our allies in the Pacific, Japan, Philippines, South Korea.
They're also highly dependent on foreign sources.
And with China, with a 300-ship navy getting bigger every day, cut off the South China Sea when they decide to make a move on Taiwan.
All of our traditional World War II allies in the North Pacific will be stranded from energy.
We've got to start serving them out of Alaska.
We've got to unleash Alaskan energy.
I signed a secretary's order today about unleashing Alaska's extraordinary resource potential.
President Trump wanted to do this with ANWAR.
He's wanted to do it with the Strategic Petroleum Route.
Biden had 68 executive orders against Alaska.
Biden sanctioned Alaska more than Iran during his term.
We're unwinding all of that, and we're going to, you know, energy dominance is going to, I guess, it's going to solve the problems abroad, and it's going to bring prosperity at home.
Let me ask you, these are very ambitious goals, and here's what we're asking American energy companies to do, and that is to commit to spending billions of dollars to quickly begin the process of being the most dominant and energy-rich country on earth, which I think they probably want to do.
We only have Donald Trump in office for four years.
There's got to be a little bit of hesitancy on the part of some of these producers, and you know them well because of all of your work with energy companies in North Dakota.
Are they willing to invest all of that money, number one?
Number two, is there a way to create unbreakable contracts for them so that if they do invest that money, that if God forbid an environmentalist ever gets back in the White House and wants to shut it down, that it would be impossible.
I think there's a way, Sean.
You know, as you say, capital is going to flow to where it's most secure.
There's a lot of capital that wants to flow to the U.S. right now.
And we've also got an interesting confluence of two things we haven't had before, and that's the demand for energy.
We've been talking liquid fuels, oil and gas, natural gas, but the demand for electricity.
We're in the proxy wars with Russia and Iran.
We're in a Cold War with China, and the center of that Cold War is the battle for artificial intelligence, AI dominance, AI, the AI war that we're in with them.
And that war is going to be won by who's got the most electricity.
And China is building hydro.
They're building nuclear.
They're opening up.
They permitted 53 coal plants in six months last year, more than two a week.
And we are so far behind right now on electricity, but we're seeing there's an announcement last week by Chevron where they, for the first time, you know, global multinational oil and gas company, they're committed to building baseload energy for an AI data center.
So when you start getting the oil and gas guys looking at the U.S. and say, well, it's not just export, it's not just transportation, it's not just manufacturing.
We also can use our resource like natural gas to produce electricity that's reliable, it's clean, it's cheap, it's affordable, it's long-term.
Those are going to be the long-term contracts that you're talking about.
They're going to sign 20-year offtake agreements for these data centers.
These data centers are actually manufacturing intelligence.
It's the new generation of manufacturing that's occurring, and that becomes a base capability for every industry.
It's more productive.
But we see through executive action how quickly, and executive orders, how quickly President Trump has been able to undo a lot of the damage that Joe Biden had put in place through executive action.
In other words, is there a rock-solid way to ensure that if these companies invest the billions we need as quickly as we need it for all of these energy needs that you have articulated, that they won't be shut down if a Democratic administration ever won again?
Well, I think the way our politics have teeter-tottered and whipsawed back and forth, I mean, I think it just speaks to everybody that is out there that was part of the huge mandate for President Trump is why we've got to start working now for the midterms.
You've got to start working for four years from now.
We've got to make sure that this run, this movement that President Trump is leading lasts longer than one term so we don't end up being whipsawed back the other way.
But I think we're also going to see the results.
The American people are going to see the results of President Trump.
And I think this is a revolution.
You described it, Sean, as a transformation once in 100 years.
That's happening.
It's going to continue.
I'm confident that we're going to deliver the results for President Trump that is going to keep this momentum going well beyond the pen of a future competitor that may want to overturn the brilliant moves that President Trump is making.
All right.
Quick break.
We'll come right back.
We'll continue more with the newly confirmed Interior Secretary.
Doug Bergam is with us.
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All right, we continue now with the newly confirmed Interior Secretary, Doug Bergam, as we now are making all the moves to become the most energy-dominant, energy-rich country on the face of the earth.
My last question is, how quickly do you think we can become this energy dominant?
How long will it take?
It's not an easy job.
No, it's not.
But part of what we're doing today, again, my first day as Secretary of Interior today, we also did a couple things.
We reversed following President Trump's executive order, this disastrous ban that he had on offshore exploration.
You know, three weeks before he left office, Biden took 625 million acres off the balance sheet of America, saying it couldn't be developed.
That's a third of the lower continent, you know, lower continental 48.
That's how that size, 625 million acres.
President Trump has unbanned that ban.
We're executing on unbanning that.
And in terms of the red tape reduction, red tape reduction is one of the things that slows people down.
People would send more capital in America, the existing energy companies right now.
But, you know, try to build a pipeline, try to build a power line.
These things take 10 years or never because they get protested.
These things are going to be sped up.
They're going to get built.
And capital knows that it's going to get built and be in the ground or in the air and working.
And that assurity that we're going to be able to build stuff in America is part of the infrastructure we need to unleash that.
And then, of course, Biden broke the law.
He wasn't holding lease sales.
25% of the oil and gas in America comes from public land.
The public that's listening to this call, you're the owner of that land.
When an oil company takes the risk and goes, or a natural gas company, to produce that energy on there, they cut a check and they send it to the Treasury.
They send it to you, the public.
And Joe Biden said, we don't want those checks.
We're going to send all this opportunity overseas.
But we're bringing that back.
And we've already, Joe Biden was the first president since Harry Truman that didn't hold the lawfully required lease permit sales on BLM land in North America for oil and gas.
Did not do that during his time.
We've already been issuing them in the last 12 days at the Department of Interior.
We're back in the business of leasing oil and gas land for timberland, grazing land.
Public land was there for the benefit and use of the American people.
And we can still have all these precious, unspoiled national parks.
We won't go anywhere near them.
But we're talking, Sean, there's 500 million acres of public land, 700 million acres of subsurface, 2 billion of offshore.
And Joe Biden was basically taking that off America's balance sheet.
If Interior was a company, it'd have the largest balance sheet in the world.
And we're going to make sure that Americans get the appropriate sustainable return on that balance sheet.
Well, you're doing a great job.
I look forward to frequent updates.
And I can't think of anybody better for this position.
Interior Secretary Doug Bergham.
Doug, thank you so much for being with us.
We appreciate your time and an update.
Thank you, sir.
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So you remember last week we played Selena Gomez and it made me stop, ponder, and wonder.
I have since found out, is it true that Selena Gomez's net worth is over a billion dollars, Linda?
I mean, I've had multiple people tell me that.
I have not confirmed it and I don't think you really can if you look it up on the internet.
But anyway, that's- There's no way to confirm her personal wealth, but she is obviously a multimillionaire.
She's been on TV.
She was a childhood star.
She's a singer.
She's got all sorts of branding and sponsorships.
She's not hurting, that's for sure.
Okay.
And so, you know, she went out there and just lost it on social media that eventually pulled it down.
I don't really know much about Selena Gomez, to be honest.
I don't really care that much.
She's entitled to her opinions.
And if she wants to go on social media and cry, that's fine.
But I do have an issue with her crying.
You know, we have known terrorists, murderers, rapists, and we have cartel members and gang members in our country.
And we have Americans and murder.
We have Americans being murdered and raped and victims of violent crime, thousands of Americans.
And I never saw her take to social media to express sympathy for the victims and their families.
And it's frustrating to me.
Well, anyway, the White House decided that they were going to, you know, respond to this.
And I'm kind of glad that they did.
You know, we have the story of Kayla Hamilton, only 20 years old, murdered in her own room, left on a floor like trash.
An illegal MS-13 known gang member brutally raped and murdered this young girl.
And anyway, as part of this response, Tammy Nobles is the mother of this 20-year-old Kayla Hamilton.
And Patty Morin, the mother of Rachel Morin, who was herself a mother of five, and Alexis Nunngari, who I interviewed her, and she's the mother of Jocelyn Nungari and Jocelyn's grandfather.
They became a part of this response, and I think it's enormously powerful.
Let me play it for you.
What about our children who were brutally murdered and raped and beat to death?
I can say that I'm so sorry.
How many people are getting back?
Children.
Seeing that video, it's hard to believe that it's actually genuine and real because she's an actress.
You don't know who you're crying for.
What about our children who were brutally murdered and raped and beat to death and left on the floor by these illegal immigrants?
I just feel like it's a ruse to deceive people and to garner sympathy for lawlessness.
I wish I could do something.
My daughter was a child.
There's many other children whose lives were taken due to people who crossed here illegally.
They didn't cry for our daughters.
No one has stood up except for us mothers to cry out about our children.
I am so happy that dropped one.
I am so glad that this is one of the first bills to help with immigration.
It's only been two weeks, if that, since he's been in office and he's taking accountability and he's making moves and he's making things happen.
President Trump genuinely cares for the American people and he cares for the American family.
I truly appreciate everything Donald Trump has done.
We stand with President Trump and make America safe again.
Wow.
Good.
I'm glad somebody else responded to this because it's just so outrageous.
All right, let's get to our busy phones.
California, the United Socialist Utopia.
Jason is next.
Jason, hi.
How are you?
Glad you checked in.
Mega Ditto, Sean, from Deep Red Northern California.
I always accent that northern part.
Well, the northern part's now finally sending water to the southern part, which, if only we sent it, you know, a month or two ago, that would have been a little bit better timing.
But I worry about the northern part too, especially areas like San Francisco with all the crime and homelessness and all the drugs and everything else and robberies and every other crime committed there.
It's unbelievable.
It's a cesspool, but I'm in the far north, but neither here nor there.
The reason I called is out of all the amazing things that President Trump's done, nobody's touched on the absolute miracle that the man's pulled off.
And that is he finally found a tax that Democrats don't love.
If you look up tariff in the dictionary, it's a tax.
And they've spent years telling us that increasing corporate income tax doesn't increase prices.
Value-added taxes don't increase prices.
Cap and trade doesn't increase prices.
But yet, miraculously, this tax will increase prices.
Well, listen, all this is demagoguing.
And, you know, for all the years Donald Trump has been on the scene, and I know him so well.
And I actually said this last week.
I said, Donald Trump, when he says tariffs, that is the beginning of a negotiation.
And lo and behold, I saw the Dow futures and I knew the stock market was probably going to react to this today.
And I watched some of the Sunday shows, even though I hate to watch them and rarely do.
And they're fixated on tariffs and tariffs and DEI and DEI.
Meanwhile, you know, Donald Trump is taking out terrorists in Somalia.
He's getting hostages released.
He's getting Maduro to agree to take back all of their illegal immigrants.
He's cleaning out the deep state and the FBI and the DOJ.
And, you know, Denmark is now saying, sure, they'd love to have a deal and more American involvement in Greenland.
And Panama caved.
They're going to kick out China and bring the U.S. back in.
Mexico caved within hours.
And then all of a sudden, the Dow stabilized pretty darn quickly.
And they don't understand Trump because they don't want to understand him.
They just want to hate him.
And on Panama, I'm sorry, they violated the agreement.
That canal was not given to be controlled by China.
And that's the end of the conversation.
And I said, Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, did a great job going over there, communicating that message and getting that concession pretty quickly.
And I expect that we're going to see a lot more of the world react this way.
And Mark, I would not be surprised by the end of the week.
I know there's a conversation with little Justin and President Trump going on today.
If little Justin says, oh, we've been able to come to an agreement just like Mexico did.
Although he might just be angry that he's been thrown out.
We'll see.
But anyway, Jason, I appreciate everything we have to say.
Glad you're out there.
Thank you for being a friend of the show.
We appreciate it.
Let's get to Edward in New York.
Edward, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
I'm good.
I'm good, Henry.
Thank you for having me on.
Long time listener.
First time caller.
Thank you.
Thanks, man.
Appreciate it.
My response is to last week's air traffic control staffing incident.
I hate to rehash that, but I figured I needed to call you.
Let's just say that I'm calling to say that my agency's 911 dispatch center is intentionally cutting staffing due to staffing or due to budget cuts.
Well, it's a little deeper than that.
We've since learned how they were supposed to have 30 air traffic controllers that night.
And remember, now we learned that the night before that they came very close to another mid-air collision.
The FAA, the NTSB, have been warning in great specificity and detail all throughout the Biden years that we don't have enough qualified people working.
So we had a huge crisis developing there.
They did nothing about it.
I mean, Pete Buddha Judge, Pothole Pete, was too busy fixated on, quote, racist roads and a billion-dollar project there and too busy to see the people in East Palestine.
And, you know, what we also learned is that DEI did play a big part.
We know a thousand people that were qualified, including one guy that I read his story.
He got 100% on the test to be an air traffic controller, and he never got called up.
And meanwhile, they have a huge staffing shortage.
And you had qualified people that wanted to work as air traffic controllers.
It's a hard job.
And that night they had one person doing the job of two people, and they're understaffed by almost half.
And, you know, that means that all of this was preventable.
And then we learned that DEI played a part in not hiring these people.
And we learned that DEI, you know, when you look at the written language that was put together first in the Obama years and taken down when Donald Trump put his new order in place, because woke really wasn't a big part of our vernacular in 2017 when he took office.
But, you know, people that have intellectual deficiencies and psychiatric disorders, you know, are part of DEI hiring.
And people with epilepsy, this is not a job for somebody that has a psychiatric or intellectual difficulty.
It isn't.
Now, I want to find jobs for those people.
There are jobs available for those people.
I don't believe in discrimination, but I also believe in meritocracy.
And this is a job you better be able to multitask and make fast decisions because lives are in your hand and you better be fully staffed on top of it.
And they better have a backup plan on nights if people get sick and they want to have replacements available and they got to keep America's skies safe.
It's really that simple.
I don't think it's any more complicated than that.
Anyway, my friend, I appreciate the call.
Thank you for being with us.
All right, quick break, right back to our phones.
Toll-free this Monday, 800-941-Sean is on number if you want to be a part of the program.
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Let's get back to our busy phones.
Let's say hi to Rick in Utah.
Rick, how are you?
Glad you called.
Good, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good.
What's going on?
Well, I just wanted to call in.
I had the unfortunate experience of being the first on a scene of a very similar mid-air aircraft crash in 1987, January 15th in Kearns, Utah.
I was headed up to the ski resorts for a half-day skiing, and I had a scanner radio and heard the call come on.
They initially said it was a Western airline.
I don't know if you remember Western, but they said a Western airline plane had crashed in Kearns.
So my friend and I drove out there.
We were like a mile away, pulled over to the side of the road, and what we saw, it had snowed the night before and there was snow on the ground.
And literally, there was a parking lot where there looked like a school teacher was covering up a body part and red dots in the snow all over.
It was just horrific.
And, you know, these, I don't believe anybody, I think they all died instantly, which is a good thing.
My heart goes out to the victims' families and friends, you know, what they're going through.
And it was 10 people died in this crash.
It was a Mooney student pilot and a pilot that came up into a SkyWest commuter plane that was on approach into Salt Lake.
And the difference is it was not over water.
You know, that just increases the risk or the task at hand to try to recover those body parts and things out of that water.
It's got to be a challenge.
And I mean, it took them days and days back in Kerns in 1987 to find everything.
And it's just a horrific experience.
And again, air traffic control is so much better than it was then.
And accidents like this happen very rarely now, thank goodness.
But anyway, it was just quite an experience, and this kind of brought it all back, seeing these pictures and things.
The thing is, is we've almost perfected air travel.
Almost.
I mean, when you look at the actual numbers, I mean, it's safer to be in the air than it is to be on the road.
And however, you know, in almost every case, it's either pilot error, air traffic control error, or some combination thereof.
We haven't perfected it.
We've gotten close.
I mean, you have hundreds of thousands of flights a day taking off around the world.
And, you know what?
We don't hear of many instances.
I believe the numbers down to 0.8% of an instance like this.
To have two in a row like last week was rough.
But with all that said, you know, we now have a chance.
We now know the deficiencies that were ignored by the Harris Biden administration.
And we know the admonitions and the warnings were there.
They ignored them.
And we now have an opportunity to transform it and fix it and hire people and create, you know, high-paying career jobs for people that are really interested in that.
To deny a thousand applicants when you're short staffed makes no sense at all.
Eurosense.
Anyway, I do appreciate your call.
Sorry you had to witness that.
I don't think anybody would ever want to witness it.
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