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Sara Carter - December 23rd, Hour 2
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Welcome to the Sean Hennedy Show.
I'm Greg Jarrett filling in for Sean, who's taking the day off, deserves a little R. Former trial attorney, uh, used to be a defense attorney in California years ago.
I'm the Fox News legal uh analyst.
And one of the things we're talking about is the legal effort to stop the sale of border wall materials.
Uh President elect Donald Trump filed an anarchist brief, friend of the court brief late on Thursday in support of this legal effort by Texas and Missouri to immediately stop Joe Biden's sale of border wall materials.
Uh those two states, by the way, filed a motion last week in district court in Texas to decide whether the government is in breach of a court permanent injunction.
Uh that injunction barred the Biden administration from using funds obligated for wall construction for any other purpose.
Joining us now to talk about it.
Sarah Carter, Fox News contributor and host of the Sarah Carter Show.
Pleased to have Derek Maltz with us, former agent in charge of DEA's special operations division.
Thank you both for taking the time.
Merry Christmas to you both.
So uh Sarah, there's no other way to view what Joe Biden is doing trying to sell off these wall parts than to see it as, you know, a brazen sabotage of the incoming president.
Is that how you see it?
Yeah, absolutely.
It's absolutely criminal, Greg, um, what's happening here.
And not only that, I remember going down to the border for the last four years.
I would talk to border patrol agents, they would take me up.
I remember in Arizona.
I would go up with Art Del Queto.
He would say, hey, take a look at this.
Border wall that the Biden administration has totally just left abandon.
People were they were giving it away.
In fact, which which is even more criminal, um, hard-earned taxpayer dollars just resting out there in, you know, under the sun.
I saw it in Texas.
Um, we saw it all across the 2,000 mile, almost 2,000 mile uh southern border with Mexico.
And you know, it isn't surprising because look, they left the border wide open.
They had a wide open border policy, and now they want to sabotage President Trump coming into office.
But I gotta tell you this, it it's just not even we could say it's fitted, but this is somebody else running the White House, because we know that President Biden is incapacitated for the most part.
So this is definitely a radical leftist agenda to leave our borders wide open.
It's absolutely criminal, and it's going to stop under President Trump.
So, Derek, is it Alejandro Majorcus Homeland uh security uh secretary?
Is that is that who's behind all of this?
You know what?
I think it's deeper than uh the Homeland Security Secretary Greg.
I mean, this has been going on.
You look from day one when they reversed all the sound policies to keep Americans safe.
But you know, from my perspective, I want to look forward.
We have U.S. government leadership now excited to focus on the safety and security of every citizen of America, not just the Republicans, right?
So, yeah, elections do have consequences, and now that Donald Trump is going to be our 47th president, we're gonna straighten this stuff out.
So it is exciting times.
But you know, when you look at what's going on now, Greg, in New York City alone on the subway system, right?
You have the governor lying to the public about how safe it is and how what a great job she's doing.
Meanwhile, you have stabbing shootings, and that poor young girl who was burned to death.
It's disgusting.
Yeah, you know, I mean, I I'm in New York City at the moment.
I stay away from the subway.
I tell my daughters don't go there, I'll pay for your Uber, any transportation.
Just don't go into what is essentially a death trap.
I mean, you have a far greater chance of being seriously injured or murdered in the subway uh than above ground.
Uh, and that is just a statistical fact.
Um, all of this is happening because Joe Biden opened the border to a flood Of millions of illegals, including terrorists, including murderers, rapists, people who have committed all kinds of despicable crimes.
Um and and yet Joe Biden and all of those around him spent the better part of the last four years saying, oh, the border is secure.
Take a listen.
The United States will continue to enforce our laws and secure our border.
The border is in fact secure.
A record 221,000 migrants crossed into the U.S. last month.
Our border is secure.
We believe certainly that the border is secure.
We have taken unprecedented action over the past year and a half to secure our border and rebuild a safer and orderly process system.
This year is on pace to be the deadliest year for migrants crossing into this region of Texas in recent memory.
The border is secure.
The border is secure, and the border is not open.
Crossings are still at an all-time high with border patrol reporting more than 1.8 million apprehensions from October 2021 through July.
The border remains closed.
It is not open.
We are turning away the majority of adults.
The border is secure.
The border is closed.
So we are offering solutions.
That's what the Biden Harris administration has been doing since day one.
This is worse now than it was before.
A record number of migrants this year, and the total could surpass 2 million by the end of September.
We're certainly doing a lot more to secure the border.
We have a secure border.
And we have a process in place to manage migrants at the border.
A record, Surge of migrants in New York City.
Over two million illegal immigrants crossing the southern border, an all-time record.
The border is secure.
We agree that uh the border is secure.
All right.
Corrine Jean-Pierre has zero credibility.
She's demonstrated that every time she takes to the podium.
But you hear Joe Biden, you heard Kamala Harris.
You heard others in the administration as well as those Democrats in Congress.
Oh, the border is secure.
Oh, it's closed.
Nobody's getting in.
I mean, you know, Sarah, that was just a load of lies from beginning to end, right?
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, it's like, don't believe your lying eyes, America.
And Americans were watching it.
It wasn't even just that it was a border issue, which is the reason why so many lawmakers, particularly on the Republican side, or some Democrats as well, began saying, you know, the border is in every state.
Every state is a border state.
Because we started to see it.
Look at this poor person, this poor young woman in a subway being set on fire by uh this is what we call those that are known, known gotta ways that come into our country.
It means we got their footprints, we've seen them on you know, on video surveillance camera, a shadow running by, but we haven't been able to identify them.
This man was one of more than two million known gotta ways that got into our country that could be terrorists, that could be criminals, that could be people that have committed the most heinous crimes against humanity.
We have no idea who they are, where they are, and where they disappeared, Greg, into the fabric of our country.
And now we have a government that literally put all of our lives in jeopardy.
And who is going to hold them accountable?
Who can hold them accountable?
Because when something happens, when a bomb goes off in one of our, you know, uh I would say one of our malls or a school or something when there's a terror attack.
Who is going to be held accountable?
Is it just going to be another 9-11 commission event where we're going to be sitting back and going, oh yeah, well, we should have done more.
No, they absolutely knew.
They being the Biden administration, the FBI, the CIA, and every other intelligence agency working under President Joe Biden and whoever else was running our country, knew that they were putting our lives in danger.
And now all of these people that have been harmed and directly injured in families that have lost loved ones, who do they turn to?
Who helps them?
Who fights for them this Christmas and this holiday season when they're sitting at the dinner table with a seat at that table that is that is now empty?
Who is going to pay for that?
And for all the children like Derek fights so hard for that have died of fentanyl poisoning in this country, who is going to fight for those families?
Yeah, I want to ask you, Derek, because you know a lot about what I think is really an unreported aspect of this story, and that is the fentanyl deaths.
Anywhere between 80,000 to 100,000 per year.
Think about that.
100,000?
Mostly young people?
who died because Joe Biden opened up the border and allowed drug traffickers to send into the United States fentanyl which killed day after day so many people I mean he aided and abetted those deaths he has blood on his hands.
I mean if I were a prosecutor I'd look for some way to charge Joe Biden as an accessory to mass murder because that's what he did.
And and of course he'd be incompetent to stand trial so there's that but talk to us Derek about the scourge of fentanyl and what Joe Biden did.
So, Greg, thank you for bringing this up.
Like Sarah said, this Christmas there's going to be a lot of very sad families.
I'm already chatting with some of them because there's like hundreds of thousands, a couple hundred, 250, 300, 350.
We don't really know because the CDC director is incompetent.
But anyway, this is much bigger than a public health disaster.
We've never seen anything like this in the history of America.
We've never lost this many Americans.
There's no terrorist organization that has killed this many Americans.
But people have to understand, our greatest adversary, China, is the ones that initiated the this chemical bombing and I lived it when I was at the special operations division under the Obama Biden administration.
We briefed Eric Holder ten years ago to tell him this chemical war started when they started with the synthetic cannabinoids and cathanones, K2 spice and bath salts then they went to fentanyl now they're in metanidinazine isonitazine you know protonitazine xylozene that's destroying people on the streets rotten them to death and they have all this stuff coming out of these labs car fentanyl so it's an ongoing chemical war.
It's not just the cartels the cartels yes Joe Biden and his administration facilitated the the largest death and destruction operation ever against our citizens.
But right now there are people in our country ordering up deadly chemicals from websites in China they're getting the stuff here and they're making this deadly stuff in their homes.
We seized a pill press, Greg, the DEA did in New Haven, Connecticut area.
It was able to produce 100,000 fake pills an hour.
OK, so this is a much greater problem.
But yes, Joe Biden and his administration has blood on their hands.
And you know what?
I want to I want to make a joke here because there's a there's a saying about Segal leadership.
They poop and they fly away and the next person has to clean up the poop.
Right.
Well, President Trump had to do it before.
before and he'll do it again.
But it's disgusting that the American taxpayer have to live in the conditions because you know what Greg what makes me say it as a law enforcement professional is that we're only this is the tip of the iceberg of what we're seeing now in the subways wait till more severe stuff is happening and everyone's gonna be scratching their head saying how did this happen?
Well it happened because your own government and all these naive narcissistic voters that didn't care about their kids and their grandkids and nephews and nieces when they voted for this madness.
But it's really upsetting and that's why I get very passionate because in a couple of days the families that I support are going to be really sad and that's what pisses me off.
Yeah i it'll be a terrible Christmas for so many thousands of families who have lost their loved ones because of what Joe Biden did and he had the audacity in a recent interview to say when asked do you have any regrets?
He he said no I I don't have any regrets.
How about all of the people that because of you lost their lives from drug overdoses because you opened the border to it.
Derek and Sarah, stick around if you would for just uh a couple of minutes.
We're gonna squeeze in a quick break, and when we come back, we're gonna talk a bit more about this.
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We're gonna be taking your number, uh, your phone calls in a moment.
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Back now with Derek Maltz, former agent in charge of the DEA Special Operations Division.
Sarah Carter, who's spent a lot of time at our Southern Border, host of the Sarah Carter Show.
So uh Derek, I want to ask you, we've only got uh about a minute left.
I want to ask you about uh the MS 13 gang.
You know a lot about that.
Yes, sir.
Well, I mean, how lethal have they been since Biden opened the border?
Well, you know, they have the motto rate, control, and kill.
So that tells you everything you need to know.
And and fortunately, for the citizens of El Salvador, they have a president now that actually cares about public safety, so they're all deathly afraid to go to jail in El Salvador, because now they have the safest, one of the safest cities in the world because uh a president who's strong on crime.
So what are they doing?
They're coming to where our president was very weak on crime, okay?
So it's just real simple.
They take advantage of weaknesses and vulnerabilities, and they are very, very dangerous.
They're very young, they're very aggressive.
Right.
Let me interrupt you, Derek.
Um, if you can stick around with Sarah, uh, our callers have questions for you.
We'll be right back on the Sean Hannity show.
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One of those columns is entitled Prosecute Sanctuary Officials Who Defy Trump's Deportation Orders.
Because it's a crime to defy it.
If you actively impede or interfere, these sanctuary officials should be indicted and prosecuted and and tossed in prison uh for crimes committed.
It's in the criminal codes.
Uh back now with us, Derek Maltz, former uh federal agent in charge of the DEA Special Ops Division, Sarah Carter joins us host of the Sarah Carter Show.
Now, Sarah, you have spent more time at the border than anybody I know of.
And recently you went beyond the border to El Salvador.
What did you find out there about that country taking people who were here in the United States illegally who have committed crimes?
Yeah, I think this is very important.
And I'm I'm so glad that you brought it up and you also spoke to Derek about this.
And Derek's right.
I mean, there were so many leaders that had weaponized uh the migration system into the United States when they saw the Biden administration leaving the front door basically wide open.
Uh El Salvador was not one of them actually under Bukele.
And the thing is is that Derek's right about one thing.
They didn't want to be in El Salvador, and they don't want to be in El Salvador under Bikeley because he will immediately take them into custody under terrorism laws, prosecute them, and imprison them.
And I had a chance to be in El Salvador.
I spent time at the Titat, the notorious at COP Prison, which is a maximum security facility for these criminal terrorists.
And that's how they're designated, Jerry, because in this facility, um, in particular, the men that I interviewed, the people that I saw, the people that I spoke with, um, they were considered serial killers.
These are uh young men and older men and middle-aged men who are part of the MS-13 gang or Badi of the SIOcho, Mara Salvatrucha, if you want to call him that in El Salvador, who gave their lives to committing murder and crimes for the cartels uh for hire or as well there.
And I spoke with um Minister of Justice Via Toro, who was in charge of the operation to make all these a massive arrests that have basically turned El Salvador around.
It is now one of the safest places in the Western Hemisphere that anyone can travel to.
And he said, absolutely 100%, El Salvador is willing to take back El Salvadorians, those are the criminals that are here in the United States, and imprison them in El Salvador, bring them to the justice system there, and and put them there, and they are willing to work with the United States on repatriation of El Salvadorian citizens.
Um I think that Bukele is absolutely right.
I was at his inauguration as well.
He was saying that, you know, his most important resource are his people, and he wants his people back home.
He wants to build El Salvador to the nation state that it should be, that it is.
Um, and he you know, he's setting an example for the rest of the countries in Central America, and we see that now with Javier Malay doing the same in Argentina.
Uh and when our neighbors actually are on the right track and building a democracy and and fundamentally working to benefit their own people, then we benefit from it.
And you know what?
If they don't want to cooperate, if you know uh the Guatemala doesn't want to cooperate, like they say they're not going to cooperate, or if Mexico doesn't want to cooperate under Scheinbaum, then the absolutely 100% President Trump should hold them accountable.
The best way I know how is economics, and I think that that's something that he's looking at very closely.
Um and obviously we have an issue with Venezuela right now that we need to work out.
So uh I I think I think we're in a good position right now.
Let me play a clip of your interview, uh, I believe with the justice minister.
Uh, take a listen.
No.
Is the time in at a salvation for justice?
Does it require cooperation with all the neighbors in the Western Hemisphere in order to be able to stop this?
Yes.
To bring them back.
To bring them back.
Hearing Salvo if they commit and they were part of terrorist organization, they have to be here and submit our justice system.
And El Salvador is ready to take them back if they are criminals that committed crimes here.
Yeah.
Great work by Sarah Carter.
Uh, what do you think of that prospect?
I think it's outstanding, and I believe it, and I believe I don't know this for sure.
I'm just speculating because this man is very tough on crime.
He'll probably be willing to take some of these non-El Salvadorians back as well to help the United States because he's you know the importance of working with the United States.
Let's go to our uh color line.
Joining us now from Bishop, California is Mark.
Mark, thanks for giving us a call.
Do you have uh a question for Derek or Sarah?
Mark, you there?
Conservation Corps.
Hello, can you hear me?
Yeah, go ahead, Mark.
Hello.
I want to suggest that we revise the Conservation Corps and put it under the auspices of the National Guard and get all of these people to work with a five-year program to citizenship instead of incurring the cost of shipping them back to their countries.
They came here to make America better.
Let's put them in a program and make them go to school and make them become American citizens.
And if they don't have any crimes for five years, they can become an American citizen.
And like to see us build a canal from the Pacific Ocean to the Gulf of Mexico that's big enough for our supercarriers, and we could have all the trade that comes through Panama come through the Mexico-Texas border, and we could pay off the debt with the shipping fees that we could make on that kind of a concern.
All right.
What do you think about this idea of the conservation corps?
Well, I'm not an expert on that particular topic, but what I'm an expert at is the national security and the safety and security of our people.
Right now we have some really violent uh people in America that need to go back home.
And so I'm sure President Trump, because he's a great businessman, is going to be very open-minded to the trade potential and to get some of these citizens in America who love America, who want to be here to work and make a better America.
I'm sure there's going to be some very good programs that they will enhance everyone's life here in America.
But in regards to the people that the borders are and President Trump is going to send back home, those are the ghost criminals, those are the ones that are terrorists, rapists, and killers, and they can't stay here.
They have to go.
Absolutely agree with that a hundred percent.
Let's go to our next caller.
Uh Todd joins us from Arizona.
Uh Todd, uh, welcome to the Sean Hannity show.
What's your question or comment?
My question slash comment is uh I would really like Doge to look into um how much we originally bought all these border wall sections for versus how much Biden is selling them for,
and then how much we're going to have to repay or rebuy all them at, because I work with actually one of the companies that builds the border wall sections, and I know that their costs for raw material and labor and transportation and even installation down at the border.
So how much money have we wasted because of Biden wanting to be, you know, a tempered tantrum child and sell it off?
Yes, the petulant child.
That's the one thing he's good at.
Uh Sarah Carter, uh any comment on that?
Well, yeah, I mean, I think that what the original costs for if I'm and I'm don't, you know, quote me on this, but I I'm pretty sure I'm right on this was around 18 to 20 billion dollars when it originally started um under President Trump, and that's the reason why President Trump is like we've got to stop Biden from doing this.
I heard some pieces are going for five dollars, eBay, there's all kinds of stories out there.
I think there really needs to be um a legislative committee, a body that investigates this.
Um I know that people have those numbers so that we can get accurate assessment of what's being wasted and and how much money it's gonna cost us now if we have to restart from the beginning.
Part of the problem is President Trump is saying, look, President elect Trump is saying if we come in and this is all sold, then we have to repurchase all those pieces again.
And under this economy, it could cost up to double.
So we don't want to pay that money if we have the parts right there.
Let's do it because the caller is exactly right.
This is about logistical issues too, labor, shipping, um, all of the details that are going to go into putting this wall together again.
That's where the cost is going to be.
It's going to be in the labor and the resources, um, as well as the parts themselves.
So 100% in agreement.
Um, we need an investigation into this, possibly with Congress looking into this.
Uh, and we also need to stop, which I think is phenomenal what's happening here in Texas and the Southern District of Texas actually having this um amicus being brought forth and and and that we need to stop the Biden administration from selling it, and uh we need to look to where it was sold and what is being done with it as well.
And it's you know, it's not just the cost of the components of the wall and now being, you know, sold off for you know a nickel on the dollar uh by Joe Biden to sabotage his successor, uh Donald Trump in you know 28 days.
But the cost of Joe Biden's border crisis.
And I looked this up earlier today.
Uh this comes from a congressional committee that investigated the cost overall of the you know, eight million plus illegals that have come into the country, the the cost of housing and feeding, health care services, safety, public safety services.
I mean, the list goes on and on.
Close to 200 billion dollars and counting.
That is the financial burden borne by taxpayers because of what Joe Biden did, simply opening up the borders for anybody and everybody to come in.
Uh, let's go to one more caller who joins us from Illinois.
Uh Larry is with us.
Uh Larry, what's your question or comment?
Well, I'm gonna put a comment and a question.
Number one comment is people like Joe Biden and Mayorcus and all that.
I believe the problem started when they were very young.
They have no conscience.
And I told your screener, I said, I'm sure when you were a little girl and you did something bad, your mama said, now look, you do that, and you may not get caught right now, but you will get caught later.
And I think most of us realize that we're gonna have to pay for our sins sooner or later.
People like Joe have no conscience to gear them that way.
The number two question I want to ask, though, is what's to prevent somebody like uh what's his name again, the rich guy that everybody's complaining about Elon Musk.
That's the guy.
Let's keep him from bidding on those sections of wall and then donate him right back.
Yeah, I know that Texas uh was in the process of uh, you know, mobilizing their own team to these auctions.
But in the meantime, uh, you know, to do precisely that, to buy it and and donate it back uh to the incoming administration.
Uh but you know, Texas has since joined this motion in district court in Texas uh to essentially put a stop to it, that it's a violation of a pre-existing injunction that bars uh Biden from from using funds obligated for wall construction for anything other than that purpose.
So, you know, if he's selling it off, it would be arguably used for a different purpose.
Um Derek, what do you think of that?
I think basically it's it's disgusting the entire process.
I I'm not an expert on these processes, Greg, and I want to thank you for your tremendous legal insight into so many issues over the past four years.
But in regards to the uh, you know, the border wall, I know talking to Sheriff Lamb down in Arizona, he said, you know, you used to bring people like kind of what Sarah said, and show everybody, you know, the pieces of the wall, and now track the trailers are bringing the wall pieces out.
So it's absolute sabotage.
I hope somebody gets held accountable, but I honestly don't have any confidence that that's gonna happen.
There's too many problems, there's too many issues to hold this administration accountable.
We have to work on repairing everything and moving forward.
That's just the way it is.
All right.
I want to say many thanks to Derek Maltz, former agent in charge of the DEA Special Operations Division for being with us.
And as always, my friend Sarah Carter, host of the Sarah Carter Show, been with us for the last 45 minutes, breaking down what is an otherwise pretty complicated subject, but a solution that is quite simple, uh, promised now by the incoming president uh Donald Trump.
Close the border and secure it tightly and rebuild the wall.
We're gonna be right back with a couple of more of your phone calls.
I'm Greg Jarrett filling in for the Sean Hannity show.
Stick around.
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You will find a fairly lengthy and detailed examination of the law of how uh the incoming president can prosecute sanctuary city officials, sanctuary states who openly and actively defy his deportation orders.
How so?
It's a crime to do that.
And not only that, there's another statute that says if you do not cooperate, you can uh be deprived as a state or a city of the millions of dollars you receive in federal funds.
It's about time that a president act on that.
I'm Greg Jarrett.
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