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Coach Jimbo Fisher - December 20th, Hour 1

Legendary college football coach Jimbo Fisher sits down with Eric Eggers & Peter Schweicher and talks about business of College Football.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, America.
It's Peter Schweitzer, and that's Eric Eggers.
And we are filling in for Sean Hannity today.
We are very glad that you've joined us here.
We've got an action-packed show, Eric.
A lot of things going on in the news.
A lot of things going on in the news.
A lot of things going on in the country.
It's the last Friday before Christmas.
People are running around town doing some last-minute shopping, maybe returning some gifts right before the holidays begin.
And Congress is busy as well.
We got breaking news.
Literally 10 minutes ago, we've been assured by embattled House Speaker Johnson that there will not be a government shutdown.
Peter Schweitzer, your reaction.
Yeah, yeah, no, very, very interesting.
Let's listen to this audio clip right here.
I got to wrap up in a few moments upstairs, but I expect that we will be proceeding forward.
We will not have a government shutdown, and we will meet our obligations for our farmers who need aid for the disaster victims all over the country and for making sure that military and essential services and everyone who relies upon the federal government for a paycheck is paid over the holidays.
I'll give you the more details here in just a few moments.
So they apparently have a solution.
We will see.
You mentioned earlier that a lot of people are running around doing a lot of last-minute shopping.
They're probably doing some shopping in Congress as well.
So it's going to be interesting to see what this final bill looks like.
Well, it looks like, you know, according to the reporting, again, just released right now from CBS News that this deal will not include many presents for many members of Congress.
And we have important things to talk about as it relates to what exactly it means at this moment in history for the country that we now know what previous efforts Thursday's bill contains so many different provisions that I think were correctly rejected.
They're saying this bill now is expected to include three major parts: a clean, short-term extension of government funding, billions of dollars in disaster relief, and billions in aid to farmers, and that's it.
So it will not include the suspension of the debt limit, which was obviously a sticking point before.
So in some ways, it seems like this is maybe best case scenario, including for people that rely on paychecks from government over the holidays.
Yes, it very well could be.
We're going to be following that story throughout the program.
Eric and I, of course, co-host the Drill Down podcast.
I write books.
I've written books for years for number one New York Times bestsellers.
Eric's an author as well.
And on our podcast, we talk about cronyism and corruption in Washington, D.C.
That is certainly pertinent today.
But we've got a couple of great guests coming on as well.
In addition to covering the ongoing news, we've got Congresswoman Nancy Mace from South Carolina who will be joining us, as will Senator Rand Paul.
They have both been outspoken and wanting a clean bill with no pork attached.
We're also going to have Gerald Posner on.
He's the famous investigative reporter.
He wrote Case Close, the definitive book on the JFK assassination.
Our question to him is: why do we know so little about the Trump assassination attempts?
Why do we know less about them than we know about the United Health CEO?
We're going to talk to him about that.
Yeah, and to the point, we have, you know, this is a story that's been a couple weeks old now, and you have seen this person be marched throughout the streets.
He's in custody, Luigi Emangioni, but you know everything about his goods reads reviews to where he vacationed, his career.
I literally saw on the shooter of Donald Trump, they had to do a public reference request to get his SAT score, and that was like the breaking news.
And so, you know, one person killed a healthcare CEO, another person shot at the current president-elect of the United States.
Why don't we know more?
Gerald Posner is an expert at debunking conspiracy theories, but also saying, Wait a minute, this seems like there's something there.
He's been great with that in our podcast, and we're looking forward to talking to him.
Yeah, that's why I think he's a great guest because he's not somebody that buys conspiracy theories as it relates to other things, but he's really definitely concerned about what's going on there.
And then at the bottom of this hour, a little bit out of the purview, maybe of where things usually go, but actually not.
We're going to talk college football playoffs.
They begin this weekend, and we got the national championship college football coach Jimbo Fisher, who's going to be joining us.
And we want to talk to him about college football.
Is it becoming corrupt?
Is there a parallel to Washington, D.C., which we look at all the time, where you have a legalized graft where they legalize things that allow congressmen to get rich?
Are we seeing the same thing infecting college football?
We're going to have that candid conversation at 3.30 today, Eastern.
Yeah, so a lot to get to, and we'll continue to give you continuing coverage from, again, House Member Nancy Mace at 4.
We'll talk to Rand Paul at 5.
So you will hear from active members of our body of elected representatives about the deal and what's happening.
But Peter, you and I this morning as we were talking about what's happening in this country and why are we where we are as a country?
The fact that we're still having votes is because the first version to solve this problem, the first version that our current House speaker suggested we do was soundly rejected.
But he wasn't soundly rejected, I think, on its merits in terms of like the members of Congress looked at it and said, no, no, no.
It was the public that looked at it.
And it was the public that looked at it because Elon Musk and Twitter and Vivek Ramaswamy and other people said, this is bad.
And we started to see not in the mainstream media, but on social media, every single provision, including things like 40% raises for members of Congress.
And people said, this is ridiculous.
And it speaks to a larger point about where we are in this country.
It does.
It does.
The shift with the election of Donald Trump is not only signifying a change from a Democrat to a Republican and the policy change that we would envision there.
It's also a change in how Washington, D.C. functions.
And here's the thing that drives me crazy.
They always talk about in Washington, D.C., well, we have a process and there's too much chaos and there's too much dysfunction.
Why is the process sanctor?
Why is that the thing that we need to follow?
I mean, do we really think, for example, the signing of the Declaration of Independence was not chaotic?
Do we not think that the, you know, the Constitutional Convention was, of course.
I mean, chaos is part of the process.
The question is, do you have transparency?
Do you have the will of the people represented?
And are you operating on principles?
So there may be chaos in Washington, D.C., and it may be Trump-inspired chaos, but chaos is not a bad thing if it leads to greater transparency.
And I think that's what we're seeing even before Donald Trump becomes president of the United States.
I totally agree with one part of that.
I think the fact, I think chaos can be good.
I don't know that the Declaration of Independence signing was chaotic only because in those oil paintings you see.
Like it actually looks quite serene.
They seem like they have it together.
Their wigs are all in place.
Absolutely.
But, you know, there wasn't social media back then.
But I do think to the point, the only reason we know that this process is chaotic is because of the transparency.
And I think that that actually is a very positive and healthy thing.
We live in Florida.
We're doing the show from Florida.
Florida's called The Sunshine State.
We have actually some of the more advanced laws as it relates to transparency, public records requests, and elsewhere.
And so that's a very healthy thing for the government.
The United States government lacks that.
A lot of other states do too.
And I would just say it's important because the other thing that this represents is consider what the last four years have been.
You know, the election of Donald Trump represents a lot of things.
But if you look at the Wall Street Journal article this week about Joe Biden and the lengths that his handlers went to to conceal his fragility and to essentially continue to perpetuate this great lie against the American people about how weak and incapacitated the leader of the free world was.
I mean, a line in there that caught my eye.
I know lines caught yours as well, but they said they had aides on the stage that had to tell Joe Biden, this is years ago, where to go.
And the line was, that would have been obvious to the average person.
So that's a thing that was kept from America.
And so now you juxtapose that with what this bill looks like.
Nothing's being kept.
And that's a really positive thing.
We now can see literally how this loss is being made and the arguments that we're having about it.
That's the way our founding fathers, oil painting or not, designed it.
Yeah, no, that's right.
And here's the thing, by the way, what was the media coverage?
We now know from the Wall Street Journal, for example, that they had to tell him where to go.
We now know from the Wall Street Journal that to adapt the White House around the needs of a diminished leader, this is the Wall Street Journal, they told visitors to keep meetings focused.
Interactions with senior Democratic lawmakers and some cabinet members, including the Secretary of Defense, were infrequent or grew less frequent.
And you could go on and on.
But here's the point.
Here's the point.
Chaos with Trump.
Oh, there's chaos.
What were we told about Biden?
It's orderly.
The adults are back in charge.
This is the way government is supposed to function when it was, in fact, not functioning that way at all.
In fairness, the adults actually were in charge.
They were actually just in charge of Joe Biden and telling him when to go to bed.
And okay, now turn left, blink twice.
I mean, that's literally what the Wall Street Journal was talking about.
They said that the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee couldn't get a meeting with Joe Biden ahead of the Afghanistan withdrawal.
They said the only time he heard he had major concerns about we're planning this withdrawal.
We now know, tragically, that this was not well executed.
13 American service members died.
And the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee was trying to raise those concerns.
Can't get the commander-in-chief on the phone.
The only time he heard from him in four years was after the withdrawal.
And he made some critical comments.
The chairman of the House Armed Services Committee did.
He heard from Anthony Blink and the Secretary of State.
It got a little bit of a nasty gram.
And Joe Biden called him to apologize.
But that just speaks to what we've been dealing with in terms of the lack of access and lack of transparency under the Joe Biden administration.
That's dramatically different now because of Elon Musk, because of Twitter, because of Donald Trump.
And Donald Trump's not even president yet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, it's a remarkable effect.
As Joe Biden also relayed to in this Wall Street Journal article, there were limits over who Biden spoke with, limits on what they said to him, and limits around the sources of information he consumed.
So that is what the orderliness, the adults in charge, they got with Biden.
It's a new era here.
We are looking forward to the program today.
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But no, we have a lot to get to today.
We're going to continue the coverage of what's happening in Congress.
We're going to talk a little college football.
We're going to talk conspiracy theories and assassinations.
And apparently, yes, drones.
He's Peter Schweitzer.
I'm Eric Eggers.
This is the Sean Handy Show.
We've got a great show for you today.
Can't wait to continue the conversation next.
Hi, it's Peter Schweitzer and Eric Eggers.
You are listening to the Sean Hannerty radio show.
Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah to everybody.
Let's go to a caller.
Let's go to Jan, who wants to talk about Joe Biden.
Jan, how are you?
I'm super.
How are you guys today?
We are doing well.
So what's your thoughts on Joe Biden?
Well, I want to know if Joe Biden is not cognitive and he is not fit to stand trial, how are any of the pardons that he's been offering to all of these 8,000 people legal?
They shouldn't even be valid because he can't make that decision.
He can't be held accountable in court or tried because he's not cognitive.
Why are the pardons legal?
Yo, it's a great question.
I think to be clear, let's remember that what you said is actually exactly the threshold that was held up by the special prosecutor who looked into Joe Biden's use of those classified documents and in the Wall Street Journal article about this massive cover up, which should be a huge scandal.
I mean, the fact that Joe Biden is no longer going to be in office in 20 days or whatever it is shouldn't detract from the fact that his administration is responsible for actively lying to the American people.
But when he was preparing to meet with the special prosecutor to go over the documents, the special prosecutor said, we can't possibly charge this man with a crime.
He's too forgetful.
He would be too sympathetic as a senile old man.
And then when confronted with that evidence by somebody who has legal authority in this country, people didn't say, okay, you're right.
Maybe we should make a change.
Instead, the New York Times ran an op-ed the next day that said, hey, I'm a neurologist.
We're thinking about remembering in the wrong way.
It was like, no, it's you guys are the problem.
Right, right.
No, exactly.
I mean, that's the thing that's so remarkable about this is that this story comes out, of course, after Joe Biden stepped away from the race and Kamala Harris lost the race.
They're now finally prepared to talk about it.
But it raises this larger issue.
I mean, the Democrats right now are putting out these memes that it's actually President Elon Musk, right?
That he's the one really running the show, which, look, if we know anything about Donald Trump, Donald Trump is going to run his own show.
But the concern they are expressing is that somebody unelected, in his case, not so hidden, but somebody else is actually making decisions.
Well, in Joe Biden's presidency, we now know that was actually the case.
It's remarkable.
That is absolutely the case.
And by the way, for people who are complaining about the asset that Elon Musk is to Donald Trump, you know, another thing that happened in the news not too long ago is ABC News just settled a lawsuit with Donald Trump for $16 million.
And George Stephanopoulos doesn't appear to be too happy about it, in which George Stephanopoulos had to admit that, you know, he had said something that was incorrect.
He said something libelous about Donald Trump.
And so the point is, is that why that stands out, why it's news that a network is wrong about the things they said about Donald Trump, is because they have heretofore said many things about Donald Trump.
What have we been told for the last four years?
Donald Trump's a fascist.
He's Hitler.
His choices are dangerous.
He's a threat to the American people.
He's a threat to democracy.
And all that means is that the other side has had many media outlets doing their bidding and helping them accomplish their priorities, social or legislative or otherwise, since as long as we can remember.
So the fact that Donald Trump now has a media figure on his side, I think checks on power are good.
But let's not pretend like this is the first time this has ever happened.
No, that's exactly right.
And Senator Ron Johnson, by the way, from Wisconsin, who's really one of the really good guys in Washington in talking about the current crisis over the debt ceiling, I mean, he calls it insanity dysfunction.
But the reason he said that Democrats have, in his words, all the leverage is because corporate media is always on their side.
In other words, anytime there has been a dispute about the budget and about what to do with it, corporate media has always blamed Republicans for government shutdown.
So there's been a disadvantage.
But to your point, Elon Musk may have changed that equation because you now have Twitter X and you have this ability to drive the narrative separate from the corporate media.
It's a wild time in this country.
It's the end of 2024.
It's the beginning of 2025.
We have a fundamentally different media ecosystem.
We're going to have a new president next year.
And tonight, for the first time, we will have a new and expanded college football playoff.
And I just think it's representative of a lot of the things that are changing in this country.
So when we come back, we're going to talk about what the new era of college football looks like, some of the positives, some of the negatives.
We're going to talk to Jimbo Fisher, national championship winning coach, about the future of college football, which actually begins tonight.
He's Peter Schweitzer.
I'm Eric Eggers.
You are where you are.
Thank you for joining us on the Sean Handy Show.
Welcome back to the Sean Handy Show.
Eric Eggers, Peter Schweitzer, filling in for Sean Handy.
Very much appreciate the opportunity to talk to you in this incredibly important time in our country's history.
There's a lot happening.
Obviously, we've been talking about the things that are happening in Congress.
Peter Schweitz and I talk about that on a regular basis on our podcast, which you can hear at thedrilldown.com.
But it's a big day in another way.
It is the beginning of a new era in something that matters to a whole lot of you.
The college football playoff, the expanded college football playoff begins tonight.
And joining us now is somebody that we have been familiar with for a long time.
He's a very accomplished coach in college football.
He's won a national championship at Florida State.
And he has, I think, really important insights into college football, both in terms of what it is now and what it might be becoming if we're not careful.
Join us right now, Jimbo Fisher, national championship winning coach at Florida State, former coach at Texan M, and somebody who's very passionate about the sport.
Coach Fisher, how you doing?
Thank you for joining us.
Great guy.
How y'all doing?
We're doing very well.
We're doing very well.
It's a big day.
It is the beginning of this expanded, unprecedented college football playoff.
What are you thinking about?
What does today mean to you as somebody who cares so much and has spent so much of your life playing and coaching college football?
Well, anytime anything's new, you're anxious to see, you know, how it affects not only the game of football, which is going to be, but the people and the fans and where this thing goes.
Because listen, everything grows.
So from this, it's going to continue to grow, in my opinion.
I don't know how much it'll grow as far as number of teams, but I think it's going to get to 14 or 16.
But just, you know, you got home games.
The first time in the playoffs, you got home.
You got teams coming to your home stadium.
You got teams from the South going to the North.
This is becoming like NFL football.
It's becoming much more like pro football.
And I'm anxious to see how we really like it and where it goes from here.
Yeah, in some ways, it's like college football.
There's a lot of money involved.
And as you noted, that's another thing that's continued to grow.
But in another thing, it's not like professional football because there's no salary cap.
In the NFL, there are limits to how much money a team can spend on their players.
That does not exist as of right now in college football.
Is that something you think that they should look at?
You've made comments before about some concerns you have about the growing nature of the impact of money in this sport.
What makes you the most concerned?
Well, I think there's got to be a cap on it because it can't just continue to grow and grow and grow.
Where's the money going to continue to come from?
And I think it has to be capped like you do in the NFL.
And I think you're going to have to, I mean, you're going to have to have collective bargaining, which is going to, now, to have collective bargaining, which is the thing why it can't be capped right now.
The other side does not have a union.
That's why you can't win in court.
The interesting thing about this whole precedent is anytime the kids or anybody take anybody to court, take the NCA to court, they beat the NCA because they have the laws.
I mean, working laws, litigation laws, there's all kind of every avenue you go down, there's a rabbit hole.
So they're going to win.
You're going to have to come up with a union.
You're going to have to come up with collective bargaining.
You're going to have to come up with a salary cap so you can at least cap things and make things fair.
Because the other thing that's happening is certain leagues are getting huge advantages because of the money dispersal.
And it's such a great difference that, you know, a couple of these conferences are going to dominate everything.
And they are right now.
It's even going to stretch even more.
And we've got to bring it back.
And we've got to make the rest of the country much more relevant.
You know, it's funny, Coach, you're talking about collective bargaining and unions and salary caps and contracts.
And that doesn't sound very amateur when we're talking about what used to be referred to as amateur athletics.
You've also made the point, and I think that there's a lot of people that agree with you, that you think the new era of name-image likeness, this agreement that's allowed players to be compensated for the way in which universities have used their name and their image.
And that's one of the things that's brought all the money into the sport.
You've said it made cheating worse.
We've talked about how a former member of Congress just left, Dean Phillips.
He ran for president, and he talked about how Congress represents, in some sense of the word, legalized corruption.
That's a strong word, but you've made similar, I guess, comments about what you think college football might be becoming.
Well, it is.
I mean, there's always been illegal recruiting.
That's always been a factor.
Guys have always done that.
But now, the tampering and the ability, when you've added the NIL, but the part that's really made this crazy is the transfer portal.
It's open for you.
Think of every pro athlete could leave his team every year based on where he wants to go, based on the money.
And people are just constantly interacting with every child's players.
They're having people tamper with their players.
So, I mean, if you recruit a good player and you develop, he's a three-star guy that no one knows about, and all of a sudden you know he's a great player, which happened to us at Florida State many times.
Half of our first-round picks were three-star players.
And now the other teams come in and have more money, more comp, and the other conferences saying, I'll give you another $400,000, $500,000.
You're an 18,000, 19-year-old kid who has nothing, or your family has nothing.
That happens.
And the tampering that's going on, that it's basically, like you say, it's all right, here's what I'm coming for.
Here's what I want.
And it's almost the recruiting part of it's gone.
And it's more, what can you do for me?
Kids are even taking, I guess, spaces at other schools, knowing they're probably going to be a backup, but they're going to make more money because they don't want to play instead of getting developed somewhere in a program.
And listen, the transfer portal was not good for development.
And the NIL, when you put that combination together, the halves are only going to get stronger.
And so it's really, like you say, the corruption in the game is only enhanced.
We're talking to Jimbo Fisher, a former national championship winning coach at Florida State University and an expert in college football, somebody that's devoted decades of his life.
He's played at the highest level in college football.
He's coached at the highest level.
And, you know, somebody who has, I think, been somebody who's sounding some alarm bells about concerns and what college football is becoming.
A lot of people are going to watch this first ever college football playoff game, a home playoff game, to Coach Fisher's point, in Notre Dame Stadium tonight.
It's the first time a college football game will be broadcast, not on NBC.
That's the network that has the arrangement.
And it's because of the influence of ESPN, Coach.
I think it's impossible to talk about college football without talking about ESPN and the influence that they've had on the sport.
Obviously, that's an entity that's owned by Disney.
That's another, it's a very powerful corporation.
What do people like?
What do we think about this arrangement?
And is ESPN just becoming kind of more powerful?
And is that a positive thing or not a positive thing?
You hit it dead on the head.
It's almost becoming like a monopoly.
I mean, they control the messaging.
They control the games.
They control the output.
They're putting the money in it.
But I mean, in a lot of our other businesses, we see this as collusion or we see this as a monopoly and we break it up.
And that's what's happening.
And it's happening with two conferences in college football.
And listen, I coached in one of them for a long time.
And I get it.
And I don't blame the commissioners that are involved with it.
I don't blame because they're taking advantage of the opportunities they have, but it's not good for the game.
We're taking so much of the other part of the country out.
And it's like the playoffs.
I mean, you've got eight or nine teams.
You're going to have eight or nine teams eventually.
There's eight, I think, now that are coming from two leagues, and everybody else gets one spot.
Well, that's, I mean, you've got to be perfect.
Everybody else can go lose two or three or four games.
It's not the way it's supposed to be.
We need collective bargaining across the board.
You know what I said?
Let's pick the top 72 teams.
Let's have 12, 16 leagues.
Everybody plays each other.
Now, let's cross-schedule the other six games where you're playing a dispersity across different places in the country to get a better feel.
Every conference, every top six teams, those six, those 12 get a place in, and that's pick four more wildcards and get 16 and go.
But you've got to do it with a collective bargaining where everybody has the same amount of money to buy to spend on players.
Otherwise, you're having a total monopoly on the market, and that's not right.
And ESPN is the driving force behind all that.
I mean, I don't know, ESPN's taking advantage of what they take advantage of, but they're the ones who have, you know, and the messaging because of game day, because of all the games they have, they're messaging and their wording.
And it's like anything in our country, you know this from working, I mean, from working on shows.
What people hear every day is what they believe.
And you're just sending that messaging every day, every day, every day.
And ESPN is just controlling it more and more.
So what's the thing you think people believe about college football that's not actually true?
Because as you talk about this, it's really interesting the juxtaposition between what we're told, which is, hey, college football playoffs expanded for the first time ever.
We've got 12 teams.
More people than ever have a chance at a national championship.
But in reality, based on what you just said, the opposite is also true.
Fewer teams than ever, fewer leagues than ever have the ability to compete on an even playing field.
So in some ways, it's become much more exclusive.
But that's one takeaway.
What's the thing that you think is maybe the biggest misconception about college football today?
That there's parity.
There's not parity.
There never has been.
There's the haves and the have-nots.
And I think that's where we got to be careful that we don't just keep stretching that so much.
And before, there was a disparity, but it wasn't as great as it is now.
And we're only making it worse.
We need to go back and balance it up and make it fair across the board, just like you do pro sports, in my opinion.
But, you know, what you were saying there a minute ago is, I mean, you know, the other leagues are getting in the playoffs, but they never, some of them weren't ever in before.
But there's also three and four SEC teams, three and four Big Ten teams or more.
So it's only, and then, so they're getting dispersal of the money, so it's only going to make their value grow more, which is going to create more disparity in what's going on.
And that's where the balance has got to come.
We have to get revenue sharing.
We've got to get balance.
And who cares where they come from?
Just so kids are playing and we're forgetting the education part.
I know it's business, but there's still a part of this that there's a lot of opportunities.
If we're not careful, here's my fear.
We're going to destroy all of college football.
I'm talking about 20 years from now, because here's what happened.
We keep saying to these teams right now, all right, you know, you're going to play, you're going to not schedule any FCS team.
Everybody hates the FCS game.
All right, but where do they get their money from?
When you go pay them three and a half, two million dollars, it helps them make a budget, okay?
All right, then they take that budget, then they go play a Division II team.
Division II plays Division III.
Well, the money gets dispersed.
That's opportunities for kids to get education, for the sport to grow.
And listen, let me ask you something.
There is no more Bobby Bowden who came from Sanford University.
There's no Jimbo Fisher who came from Sanford and Salem College.
There's no Nick Saber who came from Kent State.
I mean, you know, all your coaches, a lot of the parts of the game, if we're only making it for the upper teams and these lower levels, where's the money going to come from for them to survive?
And then, all right, when's kids going to have opportunity?
What's going to happen to the game of football?
Everybody's going to say, listen, there's not the scholarship opportunities out there because we all talk about Division I, but there's 1 AA, there's the mid-Atlantic group, the mid-group, there's Division II, there's Division III, there's NAIA.
Well, that's a lot of opportunities for kids to get education, play ball, and learn the gaming, be coaches, and then, you know, grow the game.
Well, if those opportunities aren't there because those programs are dying, then what do kids start doing 20 years?
Well, I still play soccer.
There's more scholarships there.
Let's go play other sports and host the game of football.
I know people think that may be a little rash.
Don't 20, 25 years down the road because all the money stays at the top.
It's never going to filter down.
You got to filter the money down.
What you're saying might seem rash to use your word, but 20, 25 years ago, if you told people what it would look like today, I think they might have thought that that was quite stark from what the reality was because it was.
It's not, it's a completely different sport today.
The money is at a completely different level.
Players are paid.
Some would suggest rightfully so.
But to the point, it's not about whether the player should be paid.
It's about what the impact is on the sport itself and what will happen to the future of this incredible sport that's interwoven into the fabric of American culture.
Jimbo Fisher, I think you raised a lot of very important points.
And I'm glad you said that you came from Sanford because I was going to say, are you defending D2 schools as somebody who loves college football or is a former Sanford quarterback?
So, you know, I'm glad that you still represent your alma mater that way.
Thank you very much for joining us.
I guess the last question will be: with all that said, all those concerns you have about the future of college football, will you still watch the Notre Dame game tonight?
Oh, yeah, we will.
I'll watch the game.
I love, I mean, college football, it's still the best thing in business.
I mean, that's the thing about it.
It's amazing.
We've got all these issues, and it's still the best game out there, and we want to watch it.
I'm definitely going to watch it, and I'm anxious to watch it.
Who do you think wins the national championship?
Wow.
I tell you what, there may be more parody this year than there's ever been.
I mean, you got to say Oregon because they've overcome every obstacle, but I think somebody's going to make a run at this thing because of the way the layout of the playoff is.
There's going to be somebody we didn't think was going to win.
I mean, it's going to be somebody besides a top-ranked team, in my opinion.
Well, you heard Jimbo Fisher there.
Coach, thank you very much for the time.
Enjoy the college football playoff.
Enjoy the holiday season.
Best of luck to you and your family.
Happy holidays for y'all.
Thank you for having me.
That's Jimbo Fisher, National Championship winning coach at Florida State University, which I should point out is mild and modern.
And so we appreciate Coach Fisher for the National Championship of Florida State and appreciate his time today.
I'm Eric Eggers, Peter Schweitzer here as well.
We're filling in for Sean Handy.
We'll be right back after this.
Eric Eggers, and we are filling in on the Sean Hannity Show.
More guests to come.
We are also going to track this situation happening in Germany.
It is a time of Christmas, a time of holiday, and family cheer.
Unfortunately, it's also the time of attack.
This town in Germany, Mogdeburg, which is outside of Berlin, apparently there was a confrontation yesterday, I believe, between some migrants in the town and the local population.
And then somebody came back with a vehicle and drove through the Christmas market.
Reports are at least 80 people injured and fatalities as well.
Local officials are describing it as a quote-unquote attack, not as an accident.
It appears to be an attack.
And another point that's being made is because the conversation yesterday was through a group of immigrants and the natives who were celebrating their Christmas market in Germany.
And if this attack, and we're not saying it was, but if this attack was actually perpetrated by an illegal migrant, people in Germany are not allowed to share the video because it would be construed as negative content about illegal migrants, which is part of the, which isn't prohibited because of censorship laws there.
And it's just an interesting comparison to what we've been doing on this program and the freedom we have and the transparency that we have.
I mean, we're going to have Nancy Mace, a member of Congress on, who voted against the proposal that was backed by a president, and people can go back and forth.
That's a freedom we have in this country.
And it's wild.
It's a tragedy in Germany, but it's not only a tragedy because of that event, but because of the culture around that event.
And you can't have a conversation about that event.
So stick with us.
We appreciate you taking the time to join us.
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