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Miranda Devine - September 23rd, Hour 2
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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, and 43 days until Election Day.
And of course, early voting now is moving very quickly around the country.
Early absentee voting begins in Maryland and in Mississippi.
And we've gone over the other states earlier in the program today.
And it's happening fast and it is rolling out quickly.
One interesting thing to note is that there seems to be a significant change in the number of requested Democratic ballots, but it's too early to tell.
I wouldn't read too much into it.
And I would just assume that your vote is going to be the one that decides the election.
I mean, this race could be decided in seven states by 50,000 votes or less.
That's how crazy this election season is, how divided the country is.
One of the things that I've been saying that Donald Trump is having to deal with is the fact that he's got powerful institutions that he's got to battle against.
He's got a corrupt, state-run propaganda media that does everything in their power to protect and be an ally to, and frankly, an extension of the campaign and press office of Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.
They will never play Kamala or Tim Walz, their radical positions on the border, on energy, on law and order, or the economy, or the Green New Deal, or no private health insurance.
None of it, as anybody but a few of us in conservative media ever played.
We will also be dealing with other powerful institutions.
Big tech, we saw the influence that the FBI had on big tech.
They knew that the laptop from hell was going to come out because Rudy Giuliani's attorney had a copy of it, and they had authenticated the authenticity of Hunter's laptop in March of 2020.
They were meeting with big tech on a weekly basis, pre-bunking the laptop, warning them that they may be a victim of a Russian disinformation campaign.
Anyway, a lot of this is chronicled in a brand new book.
I think it's a must-read for everybody and anybody.
It's called The Big Guy, How a President and His Son Sold Out America.
We have a link on Hannity.com.
There's one on Amazon.com.
It's in bookstores now as of tomorrow, all across the country.
It's written by our friend Miranda Devine.
Of course, she wrote the book, The Bestseller of the Laptop from Hell.
This is a follow-up to it with a lot more information and, frankly, authenticating all of the reporting that we've done on this program.
And she has diligently done for the New York Post.
Miranda, it's an honor to have you.
Congratulations on the book.
I'm sure it's destined to be number one on the New York Times list.
I hope everybody reads it, especially to see how impactful these institutions are in elections.
Thanks so much, Sean, for having me.
Yeah, look, I think what's really important about this is the cover-up.
You know, we know by now that the laptop showed that Joe Biden was involved in his son and his brother's influence peddling schemes around the world.
But how did he get away with it?
How was he protected for so long?
And as you reported often on your show, and as I've discovered, it was the CIA, it was the FBI, it was the DOJ, it was the IRS.
They all conspired to put obstacles in the way of anybody trying to make the Bidens accountable.
But also, they lied to the media, they lied to the American people.
They obstructed, in one case, the IRS investigators from interviewing a witness who would have been very important to discovering what Hunter Biden was up to.
It was really just a concerted effort from the start to protect Joe Biden.
Well, let's go through a lot of what you discovered here.
I've gone through the basics of this.
The FBI pre-bunking the story to me is a big, big part of the story.
The 51 former Intel agents, that's a big part of the story, but it's only a small part of the story.
The big lie that I never once spoke to my son, my brother, or anybody for that matter, about their foreign business dealings, that that lie has been exposed over and over again.
And you give a lot of detail, not only how it is exposed, but how the DOJ and people within the deep state protected Joe Biden himself.
Yes, and they did this from the very start of his Senate career because, remember, he came into the Senate as a 29-year-old neophyte, kind of an empty vessel, and was quickly picked up and elevated beyond his abilities to become, for a long time, either the chair or the ranking member of the very powerful Foreign Relations Committee in the Senate.
And he traveled to China very early on and waxed lyrical about how wonderful China was, so much so that the Weekly Standard ridiculed him.
And very much mirroring the way Tim Waltz, Kamala Harris's running mate, behaves about China, really enamored of it.
And that love for China continued when he managed to convince his colleagues in the Senate to allow China into the WTO in 2001.
And when it came to Europe and his very belligerent warmongering attitude, that was something where he was always, there was the sort of the dark cabal in the CIA and the blob that really wanted war and wanted regime change everywhere.
Joe Biden was their willing puppet.
So I think that explains the original cover-up and that continued, that protection racket, when Hunter Biden was ricocheting around the world, pulling in millions of dollars from really shady characters, whether it be in Ukraine or Russia or Kazakhstan, Romania, and of course China, which is the most worrying part.
And do you know, just before Hunter Biden joined the burisma board in Ukraine, he was made a member of this very prestigious group.
It was a cutout for the CIA called the Democrat, called the Chairman's Advisory Board for the National Democratic Institute.
It's part of the National Endowment for Democracy, which is a front for the CIA.
So he was given that prestigious role before he went and took a million dollars a year from the most corrupt company in the most corrupt country in Europe.
Well, by the way, wasn't this when he was a crack addict?
Well, he was a raging crack addict, absolutely.
So, you know, that is beyond, you know, reprehensible and bizarre.
And, of course, this had implications for America's national security.
It undermined what America was trying to do in Ukraine.
You know, Joe Biden would go over there all the time saying, lecturing the Ukrainians about corruption, but the Ukrainians knew that he was speaking with a forked tongue because everybody in Ukraine knew that Hunter Biden was getting paid by Burisma, their most corrupt company.
And then, of course, everybody knew when Joe Biden pushed the president of Ukraine to fire the prosecutor that was investigating Burisma.
This is the guy, Viktor Shokin, right?
Victor Shokin, exactly.
And he's the guy that the Bidens kept saying and the media kept saying that Europeans were pushing to be fired.
Exactly, because he was corrupt.
That was the story.
And the cover story was, oh, no, it wasn't Joe Biden.
Joe Biden wasn't trying to just protect his son.
No, no, no.
The Europeans were pushing us to do it.
Well, you know, all the media at the time ran that story and had all these anonymous sources.
But when I actually went and dug into it, it didn't take very much digging to find that that was all a lie.
And in fact, one of the few people that was quoted on the record was then the EU's, the European Union's ambassador to Ukraine, a man called Jan Tabinsky, who's actually Polish.
And so I contacted him and asked him if he had pushed for the firing of Viktor Shokin.
He said, no, nothing could be further from the truth.
He never mentioned Viktor Shokin.
And in fact, he had a good relationship with Chokhin.
He said, my only beef and the only complaint I was making was that the Ukrainian government was taking too long to get back the money that had been stolen by the previous regime.
But, you know, Viktor Shokin had been in the job for about eight months.
So it wasn't his fault.
It was his predecessors who were corrupt.
And this EU ambassador knew that.
And yet he was being used by the State Department and whoever, CIO, whoever was leaking to the media around the world, from the Irish Times to the Financial Times, etc., saying it was the Europeans.
It just wasn't.
This was something cooked up by the Biden people.
Well, you go into great detail how Joe Biden, the big guy himself, which hence the name of your new book, The Big Guy, How a President and His Son Sold Out America, how they were treating Ukraine and China like a piggy bank.
And then you go into great specificity and detail.
We talk, for example, we just mentioned Ukraine and another lie that I had not known about or heard about, about how when Hunter sent that WhatsApp message to his Chinese partners and I'm sitting next to my father in between everybody he knows and my ability to hold a grudge, you're going to regret not keeping your end of the bargain.
And then how many days later, how much money did they get?
And then there's more to the story that I had never heard of before.
Yes, well, it's very interesting and suspicious.
So Hunter Biden says to them, look, I've got this time-sensitive, confidential, very urgent information that I want to give to you.
And he immediately gets text messages back and there are phone calls backwards and forwards and he's threatening them.
You owe me money and my father's here and we're going to make your life miserable unless you give it to me.
He does get the several million dollars a few days later.
But something that we didn't know was that Patrick Ho, who was an employee of CEFC, this Chinese energy company that was paying Hunter millions of dollars, he got an urgent call that night after that WhatsApp message.
He was in a hotel room in New York City and his bosses in China said to him, quick, you have to leave the U.S. immediately.
Get the first plane out.
You're in danger.
When he gets back to China, he gets told by his bosses there that they got a tip-off the night before from an FBI mole saying that his name was on an indictment in the southern district of New York.
So this coincided with this time-sensitive, confidential information that Hunter Biden was giving them.
And of course, Gal Luft, who's one of the whistleblowers, he says, and he worked with CEFC, he says that it was Hunter Biden's FBI mole.
And a few weeks later, Hunter Biden and Jim Biden, the president's younger brother, visited Patrick Ho, who'd gone to his home in Hong Kong by this stage, and told him he could come back to America.
No worries, the coast is clear.
They got him to buy them a couple of burner phones, and they pretended that they were calling their FBI contacts.
And so he trusted them.
He flew back into New York.
Straight away, JFK, he gets arrested.
He was the only person from CEFC who was arrested.
He's very angry about it.
He said CEFC paid Hunter a million dollars to represent him.
Hunter never represented him.
He visited him in jail once.
We continue with Miranda Devine, her soon-to-be pop best-selling book, The Big Guy, How a President and His Son Sold Out America is With Us.
Let me ask this, and I hadn't known this detail or heard this detail, and I probably should have heard it.
I didn't know Devin Archer claimed he was approached by the CIA to work for them not once but twice.
Yes, well, he was partners with Hunter, and they were traveling a lot to Ukraine and Kazakhstan and Romania and so on.
He had two separate occasions when CIA agents came to visit him and also his partner, Chris Hines, at the time, and Hunter's partner, who was John Kerry's stepson, John Kerry being then the Secretary of State.
And the CIA said to them, look, you know, will you do some work for us?
You don't have to do much.
You just have to report to us on when you have someone.
And on the second occasion, the CIA offered to implant a person that would work for them who was an agent but would pretend to be like a low-level staffer who would travel with them and spy on their clients.
And Devin Archer decided it was way too dangerous and said no.
But there was, you know, still this suspicion that Hunter Biden was somehow being protected by the CIA.
And of course, he was working or appointed to that CIA cutout.
And we know his father was as well.
Whether it was the CIA proper or rogue elements within the CIA, we're not quite sure.
But I would say it's the CIA proper because remember that dirty 51 letter.
It wasn't just 51 former intelligence officials, 42 of them being ex-CIA, who signed it, people like John Brennan.
It was also cleared, given the green light, by Gina Haspel, who was then the CIA director.
The book is unbelievable.
I thought I knew a lot, and I think I do know a lot more than the average person.
But the amount of depth and insight and investigative reporting, and I know you went to the Biden people to get answers, they weren't very forthcoming, and I have to run.
Is that correct?
Yes, not at all.
No, there's quite a lot.
I did have a back channel there and got a little bit of information, but they're obviously not going to help.
All right, Miranda Devine, her brand new book out today, Amazon.com, Hannity.com, bookstores as of tomorrow.
You want to get your copy.
It's called The Big Guy, How a President and His Son Sold Out America.
And you can learn a lot about the influence of these big institutions trying to put cinder blocks on the scales of elections.
It's chilling.
Miranda, thank you.
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You know, I know Bill Maher is not somebody that likes President Trump.
And I know he wants Kamala Harris.
I don't think he's too impressed with Kamala Harris.
He actually called her out this weekend for never winning a primary, a delegate, or fixing the border.
I mean, the whole idea that everything's going to change on January 20th, 2025 is a joke on day one when she's been there for four years, but she's the change candidate.
That's what she would have you believe.
And that the economy is just great and everything's going to be perfect, but not have to respond in any way to the radicals' position she has staked out is such a disservice to every voter that is now voting in a lot of states in this country.
And in 43 days, everybody will have voted.
You know, that's planning on vote.
Here's Bill Maher.
And as a former prosecutor, Kamala was putting criminals in jail back before liberals decided that was a bad thing.
That CVS is locking the shaving cream behind plexiglass.
Democrats are coming around to her again.
Harris would be the first woman president, first black woman president, and first Asian president.
But I don't vote for who will be the first.
I vote for who will win.
And for whatever reason, Harris has never been popular.
You can count the number of delegates she won in the 2020 primaries on one hand, as long as that hand has no fingers.
In three years, as vice president, she's been quieter than an electric car.
And like an electric car, your MAGA uncle can't explain why she fills him with homicidal rage.
She just does.
Sometimes life isn't fair.
It's not fair that she's not popular.
She's intelligent and accomplished, and in fact, wasn't put in charge of the border.
And look at how.
Okay, bad example.
I mean, this is why Fallon and Colbert and Kimmel are failing because they won't do what Bill Maher did.
He's honest.
He's going to support Kamala Harris.
He did one other thing this weekend, and I got to give him props for.
And when I talk about and criticize the Secret Service for not sweeping the Trump International and a known area where paparazzi hide in the bushes and then the would-be assassin was hiding in the bushes and they didn't do a sweep of the area, it's unconscionable to me, just like it was unconscionable in Butler, Pennsylvania, when an assassin or would-be assassin got within 130 yards of President Trump.
I don't want any assassination attempts.
I want every presidential candidate, every elected top official to have the ultimate protection.
We are capable of it.
We are the United States of America.
And there's no excuse for what happened in Butler PA or a Trump International in West Palm Beach.
And that means I want every Democrat safe, every Republican safe.
This shouldn't be a political issue.
And Bill Maher had to scold his audience after mentioning that there was another assassination attempt on Trump.
He shouldn't have to do this, but I give him credit for doing it.
So let's not bury the lead.
The big story this week, they tried to shoot Trump again.
That's not funny.
Okay.
I'm being serious now.
This is the second time this happened.
I said this before.
There can be no fuzz on this.
This is not funny.
Okay.
It's not okay.
It's not okay to wish it happened.
Well, this is the problem.
But he's being serious.
I mean, you could tell by looking at it, I'm like, all right, this is, guys, this isn't funny.
And it's not funny.
All right, let's get to our phone, shall we?
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Gary in the free state of Florida, my home state.
Gary, how are you?
Glad you called.
Well, thank you for taking my question.
It's an easy one for you.
I work in finance, and I'd just like to know your thoughts on how we're going to trim the $3 trillion annual deficit.
If you're asking me what I think the plan needs to be, Trump had talked about it in both 16 and 20.
I've not asked him about it this time.
Probably negligent on my part when I've interviewed him, but we have to get this under control.
It's unsustainable.
No country can survive if you take on that much debt, and especially as a percentage of GDP.
And then this is the danger of everything Kamala Harris would do to the economy because she would destroy investment with her corporate tax increase, small business tax increase, doubling of the capital gains, unrealized capital gains, the largest tax not only in U.S. history, but world history.
And of course, if she had her way, her stated position, she'd eliminate the filibuster to spend another $93 trillion on this womb to the tomb, cradle to grave, Marxist Green New Deal, which again, she has said in her own words.
So it's incalculable.
But I would implement, it used to be Congressman Connie Mack of Florida.
He was the person pushing this the hardest.
It used to be the penny plan.
Well, we probably are up to the nickel plan at this point if we really want to get things under control.
And it's very simple.
You manage what's called baseline budgeting.
And baseline budgeting is, you know, every year they factor in a 7%, 8%, 10% increase in spending in every department.
That has to stop.
And if you just would live with one penny cut out of every dollar in the penny plan, and you just would cut one cent out of every dollar and maintain that every year for five to seven years, you'd get to a balanced budget.
We've not balanced the budget since Newt Gingrich was the Speaker of the House and Bill Clinton was president.
That's how long it's been.
And Newt Gingrich dragged Clinton kicking and screaming into using real numbers to balance the budget.
They did it.
I think they did three or four years in a row, and that's the last time it's ever been in balance.
That's how I would do it.
I'd make exceptions for cost of living adjustments for Social Security, Medicare, and the military, and beyond that, no other exceptions.
And I would then cut out all the waste, fraud, and abuse.
And I'd stop the insanity of all this Green New Deal spending and all of the EV mandates and all the bureaucratic regulation that is all being pushed onto us, the consumer.
The best way to do it, and another way that we can get out of it more quickly, is opening up energy production in this country and produce all of Western Europe's energy needs, and we will become an energy-rich country.
Why do you think all these countries in the Mideast are so wealthy that they can build entire cities out of nothing in the middle of a desert?
The reason is, is because they have all the oil money.
It's the lifeblood of the world's economy, and we've got more than most of those countries combined.
And the only reason we're not tapping into it is because of radical extreme environmentalism, as evidenced by Kamala Harris.
No fracking, no offshore drilling.
A long answer, but I hope a complete answer.
It is.
Can we sneak in a follow-up?
You could sneak in a follow-up.
So maybe you should ask your friend to turn the tables on the opposition and say, this is what I'll cut.
This is how many jobs.
And I'll shrink the swamp by laying them off.
He has said he would grow the economy.
He has talked about energy dominance.
He has talked about the impact of illegal immigrants, and he would deport them.
He has talked about not taxing tips, not taxing Social Security, not taxing overtime pay.
He had one other proposal that he came out with recently that I thought was pretty good too.
And I just think that, you know, these are ideas that help working men and women.
And, you know, Kamala tries to just copy everything Trump does, but she doesn't mean a word of it.
That's the only difference, which is a pretty big, significant difference.
Anyway, appreciate the call, my friend.
All right, quick break, right back to our phones.
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All right, let's get back to our busy phones.
Diane in Tennessee.
Diane, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
I'm great.
How you doing?
I'm good.
What's going on?
Good.
I'm just worried about the women voting for Trump that are independent and Democrats.
I know, I don't know how he is going to get through to them, but it's really important.
And abortion is not what is on women's minds every day.
Like Harris has.
That's all she talks about is abortion.
And on her stage is all signs, fall women.
I wish Trump would just talk about women more and try to find a subject that I know will grab women like mammograms.
Mammograms for younger women, mammograms, you know, more easily, you know, to get.
And three out of four women get breast cancer every 10 seconds.
And I think if he maybe hit on that for women, something to grab them, you know, grab them in so they'll listen to him because they're not listening to him.
Look, for example, IVF is just a lie or Donald Trump wanting to make abortion illegal is a lie.
You know, most states are not adopting those draconian laws.
Where the country is, whether people like to hear this or not, you know, first of all, the Supreme Court codified the abortion pill availability.
So that is almost the first trimester, you know, national codification of legalized abortion.
Secondly, the state's deciding is up to the states.
But then you have, you know, Kamala and Tim Walz both supporting no restrictions on abortion at all whatsoever.
As I finally got Gavin Newsom to admit in the DeSantis debate, you know, after I had to ask him four times, do you have any restrictions on months seven, eight, and nine?
He said it's between a doctor and a woman and their conscience.
So that means no restrictions.
That's where Kamala Harris is.
That's where Tim Walz is.
But of course, the media is never going to ask them about it or demand an answer.
Trump tried to get one during the debate.
And it's frustrating because I think that is, I don't, everybody that I know that would tell me that, quote, they're pro-choice.
Most people say it reluctantly.
Most people are pro-birth control that I know.
But they would say, but yeah, okay, there are 12 weeks, which is the first trimester or Dobbs 15 weeks.
And nobody I know supports late-term abortion because at that point, we're now talking about the viability issue of a fetus and they can live outside a mother's womb.
That would be called then infanticide.
And so that's what no restrictions mean.
That's why Democrats don't ever want to talk about that.
It is, but he's got, well, I agree, totally agree with you, and I'm tired of hearing her.
That's all she talks about.
So I wish Trump could find a way to grab.
She's demagoguing it.
She's lying.
Just like she lies about Donald Trump in Project 2025, which I don't even know what it is.
He doesn't know what it is either.
You know, they lie about his position on abortion.
They lie about his position on cutting Medicare and Social Security.
They lie about his position on the border.
They blame him for their border problem.
And it just is, there's nothing truthful that's coming out of her mouth.
And there's no fact-checking by a corrupt state-run media.
And that is the challenge that they're facing.
That's why I've told people to please go to Hannity.com as a public service.
Download the Kamala files.
That's her in her own words, the Walls files.
That's Walls in his own words.
And then feel free to post it on social media.
Give it to your friends, your family, your neighbors, your coworkers, because the media is not going to do it.
Can I tell you one thing?
My mother at 84 years old, she was a Boston Democrat till she was 84.
She's 91 now, and she voted for Trump when she was 84.
She was in the booth, and she made the decision right then to vote for Trump.
And it's never too late.
That's why I called.
If he could find a way to get to women, we outnumber men nine to one.
If he could find a way to do that, it would be great.
It would be great.
I think it's very, very important that Donald Trump get the truth out and not allow Democrats to lie about him and demagogue his positions.
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