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So when the shooting occurred last Saturday, Republican senatorial candidate Dave McCormick was actually in the front row.
He was right there.
And the state of Pennsylvania, obviously, is one of the key swing states of all swing states.
And he is in a battle against basically a name in Pennsylvania, which is the Casey name.
But beyond that, as his name recognition has gone up, so has his poll numbers.
And rather significantly, and we support Dave for this Senate seat.
And if Donald Trump could pull out Pennsylvania, I believe Dave McCormick can as well, which would be a massive pickup for Republicans.
We welcome him back to the program, sir.
How are you?
Hey, Sean, how you doing?
I'm good.
All right.
It's not even been a week, and I just can't imagine what goes through somebody's head if you're in the front row and you're watching the attempted assassination of a former president and top presidential candidate.
Amazing.
It was less than an inch, and we would have had a catastrophe for our country.
And it's such a wake-up call.
But the thing for me personally is that the president, I had spoken to him backstage, and he had said he wanted to have me come up on the stage.
So when we walked out, I was in the front row.
And within a couple minutes of the speech, he started to talk about my race and asked me to come up.
So I started to walk up on the podium.
I went through the first layer of security.
And then he said, you know, to the crowd, 15,000 people said, I want to talk about the border.
And so he said, Dave, I'm going to have you up in a little bit.
Go sit down.
So I went and sat back down.
And then within a minute or two, I heard the shots and saw the whole thing play out right in front of me where the president grabbed his ear and then went down, Secret Service on top of him.
And you saw the blood right away.
Well, I didn't right away.
I saw the sort of the phalanx of Secret Service and I saw him stand up.
And then I saw this fist come out and, you know, this sense of defiance and reassurance and courage.
And then the Secret Service moved and I saw the blood.
And I honestly think that's one of the reasons the crowd didn't panic and stampede was that they saw President Trump stand up.
And I talked to him later, talked to him the next day.
And I said to him, which I really believe, as you know, Sean, I'm a military guy.
I've heard and been under fire and seen people get shot at.
And I think 100 guys are behind that.
100 people are behind that podium.
99 of them stay on the ground in the fetal position.
And one or less than one stands up and has the self-awareness and courage.
And I admire President Trump for that because I think it shows just what a fighter and what strength he has.
And I think that's what defines this election.
This is an election between strength and weakness.
And boy, our former president, President Trump, showed us a lot of strength.
What are your thoughts on what we're learning about the Secret Service?
You know, I look at this just in just basic terms.
If you lead an organization and you have a catastrophic failure, an unthinkable failure, there is something rotten going on here.
And, you know, in Pennsylvania, I think if you get 10 deer hunters with a high-powered rifle 130 yards on that roof, 10 out of 10 times they make that shot.
And so that was, that's not like a close call.
That's not something you have to think hard to imagine.
And the fact that that young man was able to get in into that area, the fact that that area was outside the perimeter, the fact that there wasn't clear eyes on that and an immediate reaction, I think is an epic failure.
And at the same time, the Secret Service on the ground when the president got shot, I thought performed well and were all over the president.
But the fact that that security perimeter didn't keep that guy out is unthinkable.
The guys around the president were amazing and they deserve to be praised, but we're learning a lot more.
This guy, they knew, had a range finder, which is something you might use in golf to check out where the pin is, and it will tell you the exact yardage.
They had identified this guy as a threat.
And I am stunned and shocked at the security failure here.
Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more.
I think the head of the Secret Service should resign.
And because she hasn't resigned, she should be fired.
And you don't need any more hearings or investigations to know that.
Although you do need hearings and investigations to know how this could have possibly happened.
And for me, I don't know anything that you don't know.
In fact, you probably know more.
But I can't even imagine how a 20-year-old kid on his own could have navigated all this and gotten to that position.
So the whole thing smells terrible to me.
And for less than an inch, we would have had a catastrophe.
And I just thank God that the president wasn't really hurt.
Let me ask you this as it relates to Democrats in general.
And you can talk about your race if you want, but their silence to me on the issue of the security failure has been somewhat deafening to me.
I know they're obsessed with whether or not Joe should stay or he should go, et cetera, et cetera.
Why are they not upset that this can happen to any elected official, any presidential candidate?
Why have there not been calls by Democrats for the head of the Secret Service to resign?
Yeah, it makes you wonder, what do you got to do to get fired in Joe Biden's administration, right?
I mean, it's incredible.
I agree with you.
I think it's raw politics.
It's political fortunes over the best interest of the country.
And I think it's disgraceful.
But honestly, are you surprised when we discover that people have known for many months, maybe longer, that President Biden was in cognitive decline, and there's no possibility that he's going to be able to carry out the responsibilities of the commander-in-chief for four more years.
And yet his inner circle, guys like Senator Bob Casey, who's interviewed, who's campaigned with him many times in previous months, members of Congress, nobody was calling out the truth and putting country first over politics until we all saw it on the debate stage.
And once it became clear that the politics of this had changed, then people started to acknowledge what we all should have known.
But Dave, I'm not buying this because I've been pointing out Joe's cognitive decline since before the 2020 election.
Yeah, but listen, certainly was evidence of it, but what we saw on that debate stage, I mean, good God, can you imagine you're a father or a mother of a young man or a young woman deployed in the Persian Gulf, and that guy's at the front of the table in the situation room deciding whether we're going to go into Syria to take out ISIS?
I mean, yes, he was old, but listen, I saw cognitive decline, but I was stunned by what we saw on the debate stage because it just made clear.
And so, yes, we knew some of it, but his inner circle clearly has been protecting him.
The whole Democratic Party has been protecting him in a way that's, you know, in retrospect, was completely indefensible.
Yeah, it really is.
Let's talk about the state of the race in the state of Pennsylvania, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
This is where you grew up.
You grew up in Allegheny County.
You know the area well.
It seems that as your name recognition goes up, so does your poll numbers.
You're going up pretty much against the name.
I've not heard much from Casey at all in the days and weeks that have preceded all of this.
It seems like he's supporting Biden.
Why I don't know what's the state of the campaign.
Yeah, listen, I feel great about it.
Pennsylvania is tough.
Pennsylvania is tough because it's a purple state, and Bob Casey's been there forever.
But I think what's happening is 80% of Pennsylvanians think the country is going in the wrong direction.
And there's sky-high inflation that's killing working families, the border crisis and fentanyl, 4,000 deaths last year, the crime, the war on oil and gas that the Biden administration and Bob Casey has led.
So they're deeply distressed about the future of the country.
That's part of the reason President Trump's message is resonating so well.
He's doing great in the polls.
All the polls show he's up.
And I think the reason I'm closing is that people are starting to understand that Bob Casey's not only done anything, not done anything in his 18 years in the Senate, but beyond that, he's moved further and further to the left.
Yeah, by the way, what percentage of the time does he vote with Biden?
98%.
98% of the time.
Geez, just shy of 100, which is the perfect record, right?
Exactly.
And this guy's voting for things that people of Pennsylvania don't want, right?
They don't want all this EV mandates that's hurting manufacturing jobs in Pennsylvania.
They want to be able to frack and get natural gas out of the ground.
We've got the fourth biggest natural gas.
By the way, that is the one thing that has single-handedly saved the economy in Pennsylvania.
No doubt about it.
And it creates great jobs.
It is huge for our national security to be a net energy exporter.
And it's great for the environment because that natural gas sent around the world is clean and it replaces coal-fired plants in places like India and China.
So it's a big deal.
And that natural gas also makes it much more attractive to locate that cheap natural gas.
It makes it much better to locate manufacturing facilities in Pennsylvania.
So it's the one thing you could do to unlock Pennsylvania's future.
And Bob Casey's been against all the things we need to do.
He's voted for a cap and trade.
He's opposed fracking, opposed the Keystone Pipeline.
If you want change, someone who is a leader, someone who's going to be a strong voice for Pennsylvania, I'm your guy.
And, you know, President Trump has been incredible.
He's been very supportive of me.
I've been very supportive of him.
And I think him on the ticket, top of the ticket, helps me.
And then I think JD Vance is going to help me because he's going to be a great addition to the campaign team in Pennsylvania.
He's a military guy.
We've got a huge veteran population.
He's a Marine.
I'm an Army guy, but I still like him.
And he knows that part of Pennsylvania, Western Pennsylvania.
He knows what those working families are struggling with.
Well, they definitely are.
And if I had to guess, probably the Trump campaign is going to park him in Western PA and in Wisconsin and in Michigan and in Minnesota.
I never thought Minnesota would be in play, but it certainly is.
All right, quick break.
Right back more with Republican senatorial candidate from Pennsylvania, Dave McCormick, is with us.
Then we'll get to your calls, 800-941-Sean, our number as we continue on this Friday post-RNC convention straight ahead.
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All right, we continue now with Republican senatorial candidate Dave McCormick is with us from the great state of Pennsylvania.
The people of Pennsylvania represent hardworking, salt of the earth, you know, Americans and hardworking and a lot of union people there.
And they want their jobs and they want a better economy.
They don't want open borders the way we have it.
And they're probably sick and tired of everything that has gone on in the country under Joe Biden.
And they know he's a cognitive mess.
What are your thoughts on Democrats in turmoil about the issue of replacing him?
Well, I think they've sown the seeds that have got them to this place because they not only stood behind a president who clearly wasn't up to the task of being commander-in-chief for a second term, but they also got wholeheartedly behind a vice presidential pick that now when we're contemplating or they're contemplating whether Kamala Harris could actually be president.
I think there's a lot of Democrats that have deep reservations around whether she could win.
Well, wait a minute.
If they want to replace him because he's not up to the job, why are they not invoking the 25th Amendment?
Well, that's the thing, right?
You can't have it both ways.
I said that the day after the debate, if I'm Secretary of Defense or Secretary of State and I'm sitting in that situation.
I don't think Joe knows the name of the Secretary of Defense as we've seen.
Well, we saw that, right?
So yeah, this is the absolute, for all the sanctimony we hear from the Democrats and the browbeating of those of us who are Republicans and support President Trump, they have shown an absolute indefensible level of moral compromise in pursuit of their political benefit.
And I think it's coming home to roost.
And that's why they face a big dilemma.
I'm not focused much on the inner workings of the Democrats right now.
I'm focused on we got to save our country.
I'm running for that reason.
I think I'll be a good senator and I'm working closely with the Trump campaign to try to get in a way.
Well, let me ask you this.
How come people look at your platform and find out more about you in Pennsylvania?
They can hear all about me and see about me at DaveMcCormickPA.com.
And as you and I talked about, I've got this bus where I've done a bus tour across our Commonwealth.
I've visited all 67 counties.
So we can find out more about where to meet up with the bus.
I think I'd go back again, go twice to every county in Pennsylvania.
They need to see you for sure.
No doubt about it.
So you know what I'm about to say, but this is the third period.
I'm a wrestler.
Third period.
And you got to stay on offense every day in their face.
59 days and early voting starts in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
59 days and Democrats don't know who their candidate is.
We need those early votes in Pennsylvania for sure.
No doubt about it.
Thank you for having me.
I appreciate it.
We appreciate it.
Dave McCormick, thank you.
We'll have you back.
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I want to play for you now the beginning of President Trump from last night when he said this will be the only time that he ever talks about this because it was that traumatic about the shooting that took place last Saturday in great specificity and great detail.
And this was him addressing the Republican National Convention last night in Milwaukee.
Let's listen in.
Friends, delegates, and fellow citizens, I stand before you this evening with a message of confidence, strength, and hope.
Four months from now, we will have an incredible victory, and we will begin the four greatest years in the history of our country.
Together, we will launch a new era of safety, prosperity, and freedom for citizens of every race, religion, color, and creed.
The discord and division in our society must be healed.
We must heal it quickly.
As Americans, we are bound together by a single fate and a shared destiny.
We rise together or we fall apart.
I am running to be president for all of America, not half of America, because there is no victory in winning for half of America.
So tonight, with faith and devotion, I proudly accept your nomination for President of the United States.
Thank you. Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
And we will do it right.
We're going to do it right.
Let me begin this evening by expressing my gratitude to the American people for your outpouring of love and support following the assassination attempt at my rally on Saturday.
As you already know, the assassin's bullet came within a quarter of an inch of taking my life.
So many people have asked me what happened.
Tell us what happened, please.
And therefore, I will tell you exactly what happened.
And you'll never hear it from me a second time because it's actually too painful to tell.
It was a warm, beautiful day in the early evening in Butler Township in the great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
Music was loudly playing, and the campaign was doing really well.
I went to the stage, and the crowd was cheering wildly.
Everybody was happy.
I began speaking very strongly, powerfully, and happily because I was discussing the great job my administration did on immigration at the southern border.
We were very proud of it.
Behind me and to the right was a large screen that was displaying a chart of border crossings under my leadership.
The numbers were absolutely amazing.
In order to see the chart, I started to, like this, turn to my right and was ready to begin a little bit further turn, which I'm very lucky I didn't do, when I heard a loud whizzing sound and felt something hit me really, really hard on my right ear.
I said to myself, wow, what was that?
It can only be a bullet and moved my right hand to my ear, brought it down.
My hand was covered with blood, just absolutely blood all over the place.
I immediately knew it was very serious, that we were under attack, and in one movement proceeded to drop to the ground.
Bullets were continuing to fly as very brave Secret Service agents rushed to the stage, and they really did.
They rushed to the stage.
These are great people at great risk, I will tell you, and pounced on top of me so that I would be protected.
There was blood pouring everywhere, and yet, in a certain way, I felt very safe because I had God on my side.
I felt that.
The amazing thing is that prior to the shot, if I had not moved my head at that very last instant, the assassin's bullet would have perfectly hit its mark, and I would not be here tonight We would not be together.
The most incredible aspect of what took place on that terrible evening in the fading sun was actually seen later.
In almost all cases, as you probably know, and when even a single bullet is fired, just a single bullet, and we had many bullets that were being fired.
Crowds run for the exits or stampede, but not in this case.
is very unusual.
This massive crowd of tens of thousands of people stood by and didn't move an inch.
In fact, many of them bravely but automatically stood up looking for where the sniper would be.
They knew immediately it was a sniper and then began pointing at him.
You can see that if you look at the group behind me.
That was just a small group compared to what was in front.
Nobody ran and by not stampeding, many lives were saved.
But that isn't the reason that they didn't move.
The reason is that they knew I was in very serious trouble.
They saw it.
They saw me go down.
They saw the blood And thought, actually most did, that I was dead.
They knew it was a shot to the head.
They saw the blood.
And there's an interesting statistic: the ears are the bloodiest part.
If something happens with the ears, they bleed more than any other part of the body.
For whatever reason, the doctors told me that they said, Why is there so much blood?
He said, It's the ears.
They bleed more.
So we learned something, but they just, this beautiful crowd, they didn't want to leave me.
They knew I was in trouble.
They didn't want to leave me.
And you can see that love written all over their faces.
Incredible people.
They're incredible people.
Bullets were flying over us, yet I felt serene.
But now the Secret Service agents were putting themselves in peril.
They were in very dangerous territory.
Bullets were flying right over them, missing them by a very small amount of inches.
And then it all stopped.
Our Secret Service sniper, from a much greater distance and with only one bullet used, took the assassin's life, took him out.
I'm not supposed to be here tonight.
not supposed to be here.
Thank you.
But I'm not.
And I'll tell you, I stand before you in this arena only by the grace of Almighty God.
In watching the reports over the last few days, many people say it was a providential moment.
Probably was.
When I rose surrounded by Secret Service, the crowd was confused because they thought I was dead, and there was great, great sorrow.
I could see that on their faces as I looked out.
They didn't know I was looking out.
They thought it was over.
But I could see it.
I wanted to do something to let them know I was okay.
I raised my right arm, looked at the thousands and thousands of people that were breathlessly waiting, and started shouting, fight, fight, fight.
Thank you Once my clenched fist went up and it was high into the air, you've all seen that.
The crowd realized I was okay and roared with pride for our country like no crowd I have ever heard before.
Never heard anything like it.
For the rest of my life, I will be grateful for the love shown by that giant audience of patriots that stood bravely on that fateful evening in Pennsylvania.
Tragically, the shooter claimed the life of one of our fellow Americans, Corey.
Comparator.
Unbelievable person, everybody tells me.
Unbelievable.
And seriously wounded.
Two other great warriors.
Spoke to them today.
David Dutch and James Copenhaver.
Two great people.
I also spoke to all three families of these tremendous people.
Our love and prayers are with them and always will be.
We're never going to forget them.
They came for a great rally.
They were serious trumpsters, I want to tell you.
They were serious trumpsters and still are.
But Corey, unfortunately, we have to use the past tense.
He was incredible.
He was a highly respected former fire chief, respected by everybody.
Was accompanied by his wife, Helen, incredible woman I spoke to today, devastated, and two precious daughters.
He lost his life selflessly acting as a human shield to protect them from flying bullets.
He went right over the top of them and was hit.
All right, that was President Trump saying that this will be the only time he addresses the assassination attempt on him just less than a week ago.
And wow.
Can you imagine?
We're talking about a millimeter or two, and he would not be here.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
Does Joe stay or go?
He says he's staying.
We'll find out more.
We're watching.
We're waiting.
Dump and destroy.
Joe is in full force.
Full reaction to that.
Fallout from President Trump's speech last night at the final night of the RNC.
We'll check in with Senator Josh Hawley tonight, Hulk Hogan tonight, Mike Huckabee, Ari Fleischer, and news you'll never get from the media mob and a video of Donald Trump that you're going to want to share with your friends.
All coming up 9 Eastern tonight on Hannity.
See you then.
We will be back here on Monday with only 105 days until Election Day.
And believe it or not, only 56 days until early voting in Pennsylvania.
Have a great weekend.
We'll see you Monday.
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