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Kari Lake - June 10th, Hour 3
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Obviously, the great state of Arizona is going to play a very, very critical role in electing, hopefully, Donald Trump in 147 days from today.
Although early voting matters, and I know some of you are still reluctant and resistant.
And if I have to say it 10 times a day until it gets through your thick heads that you can't start out Election Day hundreds of thousands of votes behind, I'm just going to keep reminding you.
No, it's not the system I want.
It's the system we're stuck with.
However, you voting early, voting by mail.
I can tell you it does work here in the free state of Florida, and they have perfected it.
It's not perfected in other states, but you better pay attention to it because if you start out hundreds of thousands of votes down, oh, all of a sudden, yeah, you're leading on Election Day.
And then as the days pass by, slowly that lead will erode away.
And you want to start banking your votes.
Look at what happened in George Santos' old district.
That was my old district when I was stupid enough to live in New York.
But when they had that special election, it snowed that day.
And it happens to have a high elderly population in the area.
And they didn't get to the polls that day because of the snow.
And it's just awful.
So you just got to prepare and go in early.
And, of course, fight for voter integrity measures, voter identification, signature verification, voter ID, chain of custody controls, updated voter roles, partisan observers watching the vote all day and the vote counting all night and the next day and the next day, depending on how long it goes on.
But anyway, let me just go to this battle that has ensued where, believe it or not, and this first passed in New York City, although a court stopped it, and now it has gone to Washington, D.C.
And now it seems to be becoming a movement.
And that is that you literally have Democrats that are pushing to allow non-citizens to cast votes in the case of Washington, D.C., in local elections, which makes absolutely no sense at all whatsoever.
But anyway, that's part of the battle that's going on.
One Arizona politician, Ruben Gallego, and his track record previously voted to allow non-citizens to vote in the D.C. elections is insane to me.
He didn't respect our laws, our borders, our sovereignty, and now you're going to get voting rights on top of it.
Oh, so you can, what, vote in politicians that will give you amnesty, something of great worth?
It's crazy.
Anyway, Kerry Lake, this Senate seat matters.
The balance of power in the U.S. Senate is hanging in the balance in this election in 147 days.
Also, it'd be nice if House Republicans could increase their majority.
Anyway, Kerry Lake is now the current Senate candidate for the Republicans.
Great to have you back.
How are you?
I'm doing great.
You laid out a lot of some of the issues we're facing in Arizona.
I mean, we've got to deal with the system we have.
It's nowhere near perfect, not by a long shot, but got to play in this system.
And that means we have to mail-in ballots, early voting, voting on election day.
And then when we win, we can start reforming elections so that all voters, whether you're liberal, somewhere in the middle, or conservative, will feel confident and have faith in our systems again.
But right now, we've got to just vote in this horrible system we have and get out and vote and make it too big to rig, as President Trump says.
It looks like things have changed dramatically out in the state of Arizona and the state of Nevada.
And maybe even New Mexico in the end will go the same way.
But, you know, we saw this in the early primary states.
The number one issue by far has been the issue of Joe Biden's illegal immigrants.
And the more that we learn about it, the more scary it becomes.
You know, tens and tens of thousands of illegal immigrants coming from Iran and Syria and China and Russia and Yemen and Egypt and Afghanistan and Kazakhstan.
I mean, we have over 10 million plus Joe Biden unvetted illegal immigrants in this country.
And I have no doubt, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, that there are terror cells in this country plotting and planning and scheming an attack on this country.
And we're not doing anything about it.
He's allowed them in.
He's aided and embedded in this.
It's a ticking time bomb waiting to happen.
I mean, we know they have actually apprehended some terrorists along the border.
Many others have gotten through.
And it's just a phone call or text message away from wherever the terrorist organization is to get them triggered and activated here in America.
Not to mention the actual criminals who poured out of prisons and, as President Trump says, mental institutions, and they've emptied them and sent them to America, taking their burden from other countries and putting that burden on us.
I just read a story about a Texas father who came home to find his daughter dead.
She had been sexually assaulted and murdered by an illegal immigrant who came here, was apprehended, and Joe Biden's system led him back out onto the streets, and he killed this Texas man's young daughter.
I mean, this is a daily occurrence.
I wish it were one in a million occurrence.
It's a daily occurrence.
It's only going to get worse.
And we saw what happened across from the White House with all these pro-terrorist protesters who are pro-Hamas and pro-terrorism.
And, you know, they're supporting this kind of insanity, chaos, and lawlessness on our streets.
And it is a number one issue.
But the border also, Sean, plays into the economy, which is also the number one issue.
If you can have two number one issues, it's the economy and the border.
And when we have 12 million people who Joe Biden has allowed to come into this country illegally competing with Americans for housing, that drives the rent up, that drives the mortgages up, that drives everything up.
And all of our services and all of our costs, at the same time, these 10, 12 million people are getting job permits because of Joe Biden, handing them out like candy.
And that drives down the wages because these people will work for peanuts.
And it makes it harder for the working class American just trying to get by when everything's more expensive.
And the middle class, if there is such a thing anymore, because I think that Joe Biden has actually killed the middle class.
All right.
So let me give you a series of headlines in the course of my research for today's show.
One is from Fox Business.
Nearly two-thirds of middle-class Americans say they are struggling financially, quote, gasping for air and feeling pessimistic about their finances amid Joe's ongoing inflation.
And again, year over year, the last three months were up 3.2%, 3.5%, 3.4%.
Again, year over year on the issue of inflation.
So I'm not expecting those, quote, rate cuts that everyone's been talking about.
Then you look at a Zero Hedge article that came out.
Oh, Wall Street admits the biggest economic shocker, that all jobs in the past year have gone to illegal immigrants.
And then there was a moment this weekend, not that anybody watches these stupid Sunday shows, but over on CBS, Margaret Brennan was thrown for a loop when she saw a poll that showed 62% of Americans want all the people, Joe Biden's unvetted illegal immigrants, deported.
What exactly do people think that they're supporting?
It would be called the rule of law where I grew up.
I don't know.
Yeah, it's like the mainstream media is just finally catching wind of the fact that Americans are fed up.
They can't take it anymore.
I mean, it was just this last quarter, 600,000 jobs were created, according to Joe Biden, and those went to all foreign-born workers.
And more than 400,000 jobs were lost, and those were lost by American-born workers.
So Americans are losing their jobs.
They are being replaced by people here illegally who will work for nothing.
At the same time, we're watching the price of everything go up.
At the same time, we're watching crime soar on the streets, and it's all connected to Joe Biden's bad policies.
It's dangerous times that way, and the only way to solve this is to vote these people out of office.
And that's why this race in Arizona is so important.
We want to make sure President Trump wins.
We've got to have President Trump back in the White House with good policies that made everyone's life easier and better.
Even if you didn't like him, your life was better.
But we can't deliver him a Chuck Schumer-controlled Senate, or it's going to be impossible for him to get things done.
We must give him the Senate.
We must get the Senate back.
Ruben Gallego has talked repeatedly.
Every time he goes on one of those silly Sunday shows that you just mentioned, he talks about what he wants to get rid of the filibuster for.
He said he wanted to get rid of the filibuster a couple of years ago during the summer of love, the so-called summer of love.
He wanted to get rid of the filibuster to pass the George Floyd legislation that would have defunded the police.
He marched police rallies.
He supports sanctuary cities, called the border wall dumb and stupid, said he would never, ever, ever support funding the border wall.
And, you know, this is a guy.
Are the people of Arizona aware of this?
Well, we're trying to make them aware of it.
And, you know, and I'm running a good race.
We're running a really good campaign, but we need to raise more money to alert the people of who he is because the media is never going to tell the people of Arizona who he is.
To the people of Arizona, he's just a generic name, a generic Democrat.
And of course, he's got Soros money behind him.
The Soros family has endorsed him.
And he's running soft and fluffy ads, making it look like he's Mr. Moderate when he could not be further from a moderate.
He is absolutely hinging on Marxist.
And so we have to get out there and define him.
And that's why I'm out there campaigning so hard and asking people to chip in $1, $5, or $10.
I know it's hard in Joe Biden's economy to do that, but we have to get out and let the people know who he is because they don't know who he is.
And when they find out who Ruben Gallego is, they are going to want to run as fast as they can the other way.
All right, quick Frank, right back.
We'll continue more with Arizona Senate candidate Carrie Lake is with us.
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We continue with Arizona.
Senate candidate Perry Lake is with us.
Let me ask you about what's going on with Arizona Governor Katie Hobbs, according to FoxNews.com under an investigation for this alleged pay-to-play scheme and a report revealing that a group home company got a rate hike after they donated $400,000 to Hobbs and the state Democratic Party.
Is she in trouble out there?
Well, we'll see.
I mean, the AG who's investigating her is, you know, in my opinion, shouldn't even be sitting in that office after the way they ran those elections.
And, you know, I'm not, am I shocked by any of this?
No.
We saw how the elections were run and Katie Hobbs ran the elections and everybody around the country and practically around the globe saw how the elections in Arizona were run.
And so would it shock me that she's doing something unethical, perhaps fraudulent?
No, I'm not shocked.
But the question is, can we get an honest investigation from the other politician, A.G. Mays, who shouldn't even be sitting in that office?
So I, you know, we got the convicts running the state right now, and we got to wonder if they could really do a good job in investigating people in their own party.
So I don't hold out a lot of hope, but it's just going to, I think this is going to be just one instance that we see major minimum unethical behavior, possibly criminal behavior at the hands of these people who are in charge of Arizona right now.
And it's absolutely horrifying for the people of our state because we're stuck, almost held hostage by a really bad, poorly run elections.
And now we have people at the helm of our government who are unethical at the least and possibly criminal at the worst.
Well, thank God they changed that 1864 abortion law.
I mean, I was beginning to worry about some of your fellow Republicans out there, whether they had any brains in their head, because that would have been a disaster had they not done that.
Well, I mean, the worst thing that would have happened, obviously, I'm pro-life and I want to save as many babies as possible.
And, you know, you can save babies without necessarily changing laws.
Look at what, you know, Hungary was able to do.
They never changed a single law.
They dropped the number of abortions in half by passing and pushing pro-family policy, encouraging people to have babies, encouraging an economy where you could afford to have babies.
And actually, with tax breaks, if you have four babies, if you're a woman who has four babies in Hungary, you never pay taxes again.
They were watching their population collapse.
They had a very low birth rate, and they said, we need to pick up the birth rate, which, by the way, we need to do here in America.
The problem with having that law in the books was it would have ushered in this piece of an initiative, voter initiative that's on the ballot in 147 days, which is written by Planned Parenthood, which will push the most extreme abortion laws in the country in Arizona.
And if the people of Arizona only had to choose between the 1864 law and this planned parenthood voter initiative that would cement into our Arizona Constitution forever, abortion up until nine months and beyond, I'm afraid that that might have passed.
And now we have an option for voters.
We have the old 15-week abortion law or the planned parenthood right up until the moment of birth and then beyond.
So voters now have a choice, something that's more reasonable.
And we also want to work to push forth policy to encourage parenthood, to encourage women when they find them.
Let me ask you this because we're just running out of time.
People want to learn more about your campaign.
How do they do it?
Thank you, Sean.
CarrieLake.com, K-A-R-I-L-A-K-E.com.
It's time for some common sense solutions.
We can solve all the problems.
We have the border crisis we can solve.
We can solve the problem with crime on our streets.
We can get our kids a great education, but we have to have the right people in office.
People are going to push forth common sense policies that put the citizens of our country first.
That's what I plan to do.
I ask for your vote if you're in Arizona, and if you can spare some spare change or a few bucks here or there, help our campaign grow so that we can define Ruben Gallego and tell people who he really is and make sure we save our state and save our country.
All right, Kari Lake, always good to have you.
We'll have you back.
This is an important race, an important state, obviously.
I-25 to the top of the hour.
We'll get to your calls coming up, 800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
I mean, Democrats have lost their frigging minds.
We're going to get to that in a second.
I don't know if you saw this.
Caitlin Clark has been left off the Team USA's women's basketball team for the 2024 Summer Olympics.
Maybe they kind of missed that she's the all-time leading scorer in NCAA history for college women's basketball and why she's been bullied in the WNBA.
And, you know, I guess that's, you know, welcome to the league.
Ha ha.
Okay.
To do this, these other players and the people involved in this, they are so short-sighted.
You know, she played this weekend, Friday night she played.
She scored 30 points in 39 minutes against the Washington Mystics.
And by the way, it included her rookie record tying 7-3 pointers during the game as her team won 85-83.
She scored more than a third of her team's points, and she's just acclimating to the league.
It's going to take a little time and being targeted at the same time.
Oh, but she's not good enough for the Olympics.
I'm telling you, people are petty.
If I was her, honestly, she could start her own league with a group of other people because they're not paying people crap in the WNBA.
And if the WNBA doesn't want her, then get a group of other people, get a lot of college players, and start a competing league, and watch what happens.
The WNBA will fold like a cheap suit.
Because it's not like they're selling out every arena that they're in.
It's not like the players are making a lot of money.
I don't think they have figured out that a rising tide of interest in the WNBA because of somebody with her talent and ability lifts all boats and benefits every player.
And the more people that show up in the seats for these games, the more money that they're ultimately going to make.
By the way, I went to the Stanley Cup playoff opening game over the weekend, Linda.
Are you proud of me?
And I wore my Florida Panthers jersey.
Definitely a very subtle hat tip to, you know, Hokul.
I want to send her a message.
You're doing a great job.
Nothing to do with Hochul.
I'm from Florida, and I support my Florida team.
First of all, you can't say you're from Florida.
You're from living.
I gotta say, I live in Florida.
Okay, I left New York for 16 years, and Fox brought me back to New York.
I had no intention of going back to New York, although it was kind of nice at the time.
It's different, though.
16 years ago.
It's a different time.
Yeah, very.
No, we actually, there were times we had a good run there for a while, but New York has gone to Adam's ship.
And it's just, it's horrible right now.
And it's getting worse every day.
You see now these guys on mopeds, you know, gangs on mopeds that are doing, you know, grab robberies against innocent New Yorkers, and now cops have to tackle them.
That one poor cop has like had a skin ripped off his body as he's tackling these people.
You know, of course, Joe Biden unvetted illegal immigrants.
It's unreal.
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Dennis in Nevada, you're up first this half hour.
Sean Hannity Show.
How are you?
Hey, Sean.
Happy Monday.
Listen, you've gone over all of the things that's going to beat Brandon.
You really have.
All of the issues, immigration, inflation, crime.
One of the things that I think Mr. Trump really needs to get his hands around and get a consistent message is abortion.
It kicked our butt in 22, and it's going to kick our butt in 24.
That's going to be the biggest issue from the Democrats' perspective.
That's all they have to run on.
What do you think?
Abortion, I think, prevented the red wave in 2022.
I'll be that blunt about it.
I think messaging has gotten better.
If you watch my interview with President Trump last week, I thought he gave the perfect answer, which is that Roe v.
Wade was bad law and that the states ought to be deciding.
And that means the people of those states are deciding.
You have to anticipate if you're a candidate for state office, if you're a congressional candidate, a senatorial candidate, or in the case of Donald Trump running for president, that the Democrats will lie and demagogue this issue.
Republicans will want back alley abortions.
They've been doing this for decades.
It's a lie.
And anytime anyone lies about you in a campaign, you must immediately confront and combat it.
That's the only way around it.
And I would say to Republicans, and even those that consider themselves pro-life, that's not where the country is.
And if you want to lose, you know, you could do what Mastriano did, and he's a nice guy.
And he was running for governor of Pennsylvania.
He didn't believe in exceptions for rape, incest, or the mother's life.
He lost by the highest margin to a non-incumbent Democratic gubernatorial candidate since the 1940s.
And he dragged the rest of the ticket, including Dr. Oz, down with him.
Oz would have won that race.
You know, he had double-digit tickets switching, which never takes place.
You'd never see that.
But it wasn't enough at the end of the day because the margin was so wide at the top of the ticket.
So if you want to know where the people are, I would argue first trimester, and then I would argue with Dobbs, which is 15 weeks.
And then I would say, let the people decide, and you can have a referendum on it.
But more importantly, if you want to know who the extremists on abortion are, you know, look at the debate between Ron DeSantis and Governor Newsom.
I had to push Newsom hard to get an answer from him.
Do you support any restrictions on late-term abortion?
Oh, it's not a real issue.
Yeah, it is a real issue.
Do you support any restrictions at all?
And he started to get annoyed because I wouldn't accept no answer.
And he finally answered and said it's a decision between a woman, her doctor, and their conscience.
So the answer was no restrictions for any late-term abortions.
The problem is that's called infanticide because those are viable babies that could live outside the womb.
Most Americans are reasonable.
And the reasonable position that Americans, if you want consensus, it's first trimester, Dobbs, 15 weeks.
And anything short of it, and you've got to have the exceptions, rape, incest, mother's life.
If you want to be competitive, don't let Democrats demagogue the issue.
Okay?
I hope that helps answer your question.
All right, buddy.
Thank you.
Greg, North Carolina, next, Sean Hannity Show.
Hi.
Hello, longtime decades listener.
But I wanted to ask you, I am a convicted felon from 30 years ago, and I see Trump is in the same position that I am.
I have nonviolent, non-victim, non-drug.
I'm an Army infantry veteran, but I can't even own a gun now because Senator Charles Schumer keeps, after 30 years, inserting in ATF's budget, and I can see how all this pork gets in there, a thing that they cannot expend any funds to restore someone's gun rights.
Let me ask you this.
What were you convicted of 30 years ago?
A paperwork violation with my ATF licenses because I wouldn't cooperate with them to go around and set up a bunch of people.
And they who is the bigger guy, not me, that's for sure.
But I couldn't fight it because I ran out of money.
And that's the story of a lot of people when they face the federal judicial system.
They don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Well, my advice to you is to, listen, if that's the law as it applies to you, don't violate it because they'll put you in jail.
I really mean that.
I'm just speaking as a friend.
If a friend of mine told me this, I would give him or her the same advice.
But that's something hopefully that a Republican majority in the Senate and the House and a Republican president by the name of Donald Trump could fix.
Because I think 30 years, you've done your time.
I think that you have not had any further offenses.
This was a relatively, sounds like a relatively minor offense to me.
And you've gone 30 years.
Does that mean you can't even go to a gun range and shoot a gun?
No.
I couldn't even take my son out to go to the target range or anything without worrying about some ATF guy jumping out of the bushes and throwing me in jail with a bunch of gang members.
Well, you might want to check out Berner if you don't have any other self-defense method because it's legal in all 50 states.
You don't need a background check and you don't need a license.
And at least it's something, I will tell you, it's a very effective, non-lethal way to defend yourself and your family.
I personally like the Mission 4 rifle that they have.
Amazing.
You know, you might want to connect with the USCCA and see if they can help you.
Hang in there, buddy.
Appreciate the call.
Let's say hi to Jake in New Jersey.
What's up, Jake?
How are you, sir?
Hi, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good.
What's going on?
Number one, I think that I don't know if it's a realistic chance that Trump's going to pick Nikki Haley for his VP, but I honestly think that's the only way Trump could win because you need to get the moderates.
And if you have some other of his picks, the moderates might not go for it.
Look, I watched Nikki's endorsement of Trump, and it seemed a little, you know, well, the other guy sucks, therefore I'm not going to vote for him.
I'm going to vote for Trump.
I didn't think it was particularly enthusiastic.
I much preferred the way Governor DeSantis handled the post-primary relationship with Trump.
I like Nikki Haley personally.
I've known her for many, many years.
Granted, it's a rough and tumble primary season that she went through with Trump, but at the end of the day, I mean, he won hands down.
And do I think it's in everybody's best interest if we unite against this radicalism that is the new Democratic socialist new Green Deal Party?
I do.
But that's a decision that only she can make.
I've had one conversation with her since she left the race.
I don't tell people what to do, and I would hope that this kind of plays itself out naturally.
And I think she could be an asset to President Trump in a lot of different ways.
Doesn't have to be VP.
As of now, if I had to tell you where the names are, I would say it's probably down to three, and that would be Marco, Senator Marco Rubio, Senator JD Vance, and Senator Tim Scott.
I'm not sure Doug Berger makes the cut, but we'll see.
Who do you prefer the most out of all them three?
I think I'm going to keep that to myself for now.
Okay, also, don't you think like when President Trump made sure that Adam Kingsgar and Liz Cheney got kicked out of the party because they impeached him, don't you think we should do the same with like Marjorie Lutier and Matt Gates for keep on trying to get rid of our speakers, which makes our party very not united?
No, I don't think they should be kicked out of the party.
I think Republicans need a bigger majority and get rid of the stupid motion to vacate with one vote rule.
That's what I think.
Okay.
No, I don't think they should be kicked out.
They're allowed to have their opinions.
Adam Kingsgar were able to have their opinions also.
Listen, I'm just telling you right now, I just, well, I mean, okay, you can't compare the two in my view.
Anyway, appreciate the call.
800-941-Sean is on number if you want to be a part of the program.
Joe in Virginia next.
Hey, Joe.
Boy, it's tight in Virginia.
Hope that's real.
What's going on?
Doing great.
How are you doing today?
I'm good, sir.
What's on your mind?
A couple things, if you don't mind.
The first is brief.
Donald Trump's got his debate coming up, and I think I have to believe that he's going to be ambushed.
I can't believe that Joe Biden gets a business.
What do you mean by fake Jake Tapper and fake news CNN and Dana Bash?
You've got to be kidding me.
Of course, it's going to be one-sided debate.
So why hasn't he insisted on balancing it a little bit by having a co-moderator from the conservative side?
He's tried to push back hard.
I understand that there have been some concessions made.
I don't want to reveal my sources, but on the issue of who moderates it, I don't know if there's been any progress made, but I don't think fake Jake Tapper, who's just a liberal talk show host, or Dana Bash, I don't think either one of them are fair, balanced, and objective.
Frankly, I don't even think CNN has anybody that's capable of doing that debate that would do it in a fair way.
I really don't.
I agree.
Yeah.
Is there any way that you perceive that he might be able to do something like this?
I think that the best thing that could happen is if Joe Biden accepted Trump's invitation, he said, make my day, accept my two debates on my terms.
Oh, okay.
And I'm only going to be willing to go to these four locations, all liberal venues for the debate.
And I think Donald Trump, they threw out a deal that I think Trump was right.
We discussed it when I interviewed him last week.
I think they suspected he'd say no, that he's not going to just agree to their terms.
And they'd walk away, say, well, we tried to debate and he wouldn't do it.
And he said, no, I'll take the debate.
I'll take the unfair format.
I'll take all of it.
And I think that he made the right call.
I think America has a right to see both presidential candidates.
And I actually think they did Trump a favor when they said they're going to cut off his mic, cut off his mic, because I think that hurt him in the first debate against Biden last time.
And let Joe Biden have his two minutes to talk on his own.
And let's see how much Red Bull that they give him before or whatever they give him before.
I also agree with the 70% of Americans that are polled last week that think that there should be a drug test.
I mean, we do that for high-performing athletes all the time.
Why not for presidential candidates?
Anyway, appreciate the call, my friend.
800-941-Sean.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
Here we go.
Verdig Watch again, this time in the Hunter Biden gun trial case.
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Also, Vivek Ramaswamy, Tommy Larin, Mark Penn.
Yeah, Democrats melting down over Biden being their candidate.
And also, what about the 51 unrepentant deep state liars?
Huh.
We'll have that and much more.
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