Following the Money from China - June 10th, Hour 2
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If you want to be a part of the program, so now that it has been exposed that not only did big tech, not only did Joe Biden, not only did the media mob all just flat out lie to you, the American people, in the weeks leading up to the 2020 presidential election about Hunter Biden and the laptop being, you know, likely Russian disinformation, they don't even care.
You know, listen to former intelligence officials claiming that Hunter Biden's laptop is Russian disinformation.
John Brennan, James Clapper, for example, listen.
I think there are a lot of issues related to this New York Post story that importantly referenced the Hunter Biden emails.
And as I and several of my former colleagues have pointed out publicly, that it does bear the hallmarks of Russian disinformation.
To me, this is this classic textbook, Soviet Russian tradecraft at work.
Textbook, you notice they all said the same thing.
And go back to Joe Biden himself because Joe Biden needed a lifeline because he knew that this would likely have a massive impact on the presidential election.
So he went to his old reliable lying himself and allowing those that wanted him elected to lie for him, the deep state as we call it.
And they did, dutifully, organized by Wink and Tony Blinken, and all said the same thing.
They didn't say it because they had any knowledge of Hunter Biden's laptop.
They hadn't examined Hunter Biden's laptop.
They said it for one reason only, and that is that they wanted Joe Biden elected.
And now they've doubled down on signing this letter ignorantly and basically saying they don't regret it at all.
Why should they regret it?
Their guy won.
That's all that matters.
Means, you know, ends justified the means for them.
But here's what Biden said, and I'll follow it up with what the media mob said.
There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what this he's accusing me of is a Russian plan.
They have said that this has all the care.
Four, five former heads of the CIA, both parties, say what he's saying is a bunch of garbage.
Nobody believes it except his and his good friend Runu Gianni.
You mean the laptop is now another Russia-Russia-Russia hoax?
That's exactly what this is.
Do you believe the recent leak of material allegedly from Hunter's computer is part of a Russian disinformation campaign?
From what I've read and know, the intelligence community warned the president that Giuliani was being fed disinformation from the Russians.
And we also know that Putin is trying very hard to spread disinformation about Joe Biden.
And so when you put the combination of Russia, Giuliani, the president together, it's just what it is.
It's a smear campaign.
Billy stories from the fall about the Zeitmunger.
We're rushing to the meeting.
Yes, yes, yes.
God's love, you man.
You're a one-horse point.
I think it's broadly known and widely known, Peter, that there was a broad range of Russian disinformation.
Does it surprise you at all that this information Rudy Giuliani is peddling very well could be connected to some sort of Russian government disinformation campaign?
Well, we know that this whole smear on Joe Biden comes from the Kremlin.
That's been clear for well over a year now.
This classic textbook, Soviet Russian tradecraft, ongoing Russian disinformation effort.
Ongoing Russian disinformation effort.
They just dismissed it.
They didn't care.
Remember, in the months leading up to the 2020 election, we had the FBI taking valuable resources away from investigating possible domestic terrorists, meaning moms and dads at school board meetings that questioned how dare they age-appropriate material being taught their kids.
So you had big tech then asking Facebook and Twitter in particular.
They were being warned that there might be a disinformation campaign in big tech, and they were being warned weekly by the FBI.
And then when this story broke, they said, well, Facebook and Twitter asked if this was one of those examples that they were warning them about.
According to John Solomon, justthenews.com, the FBI knew the laptop was real in March of 2020, and they wouldn't confirm it.
So the Intel community lied.
Big tech censored the information.
Biden flat out lied.
Every Democratic supporter of his flat out lied.
The media mob flat out lied.
And it had an impact on the election.
I don't think there's any doubt about it.
Now, we do have some beyond Hunter Biden and closing arguments and jury instructions going out to the jury today.
We do have other developments with the Biden family syndicate, if you will, as we like to affectionately call it.
Joe Biden lied when he said he never once spoke to his son, his brother, or anybody for that matter about their foreign business deals.
Well, the Biden family, not exactly Joe Biden not telling the truth.
The GOP in the House has now made official criminal referrals for both James Biden, Joe Biden's brother, and Hunter Biden.
And according to Politico, this is a huge piece that they put out.
President Biden has long attempted to distance himself from his family business dealings as he ran and eventually became president.
But a new report details just how involved those in the president's inner circle have been in Biden family ventures.
And then it goes through a whole cadre of people in Politico that are involved, and they've long said they observe strict firewalls.
The Politico report details how involved those in the president's orbit actually have been in dealings with Hunter and Jim Biden.
And, you know, all the things that we have discussed, you know, all the phone calls that Joe got on that, again, he wasn't involved at all.
Never once spoke to anybody, but yet he's on all these conference calls, according to testimony of Devin Archer.
He's meeting at Cafe Milano with the former Russian oligarch First Lady of Moscow and others.
And, you know, Hunter, admittedly addicted to hard drugs with no experience, being paid millions of dollars.
Then you have the, oh, yeah, I told him you're not getting the money.
You got six hours.
And son of a B, they fired the prosecutor investigating Burisma Holdings that was paying Hunter Biden for no experience at the request, according to reports of Hunter Biden and Burisma executives.
He's the host of the Drill Down podcast.
Both of them are, Peter Schweitzer and Eric Eggers, Government Accountability Institute.
And by the way, Peter's new book, Blood Money, Why the Powerful Turn a Blind Eye While China Kills Americans.
Welcome both of you back to the program.
Thanks, Sean, for having us.
Appreciate it.
Let's start with you, Peter, and let's start with the 51 Intel agents.
But more important than that, it's big tech, Joe Biden himself, the Intel community overall, the Democratic Party overall, and the media mob overall.
They all lied completely because that laptop is very real or else it wouldn't have been introduced into evidence by the DOJ, would it?
That's right.
And Sean, here's the thing.
There was absolutely a massive disinformation campaign going on in 2020, but it wasn't a Russian disinformation campaign.
And of course, Russia does those.
There's no denying that.
But in this case, that's not what was going on.
This was a disinformation campaign organized by the Biden campaign.
Tony Blinken, of course, put together that list of 50-plus intel officials, but it included elements of our intelligence community.
You played in that sound clip, you know, the KGB and sort of Soviet tradecraft.
Well, they employed that.
U.S. intelligence officials employ that in this particular case.
And here, I think the thing, Sean, that is so stunning to me is, you know, you've been in the news business for a long time.
If you had a source that came to you and told you something several times that was a lie, that was not accurate, if that source came to you again, you would call them out on it.
Well, the main...
100%.
Yeah, I mean, the mainstream media has been lied to, has lied to repeat.
But look at the FBI vouching for not just Christopher Steele, but then vouching for this guy, Smirnoff.
And in both cases, you know, I mean, they said these, in some cases, in the case of Smirnoff, they paid the guy for 10 years, over 10 years, hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Ray himself vouched for the guy.
You know, they vouch for Christopher Steele and then, oh, never mind.
Really?
How could they get it so wrong?
Yeah, they get it wrong and they cover it up.
And again, the purpose of an actual functioning media, mainstream media, should be, hey, you know what?
You've lied to us repeatedly about these things.
We're going to not only call you out for your lies, but we're going to be extremely skeptical of anything you tell us going forward.
That has not been the posture of the media.
None of the media has gone out and corrected the stories they've run.
None of them have become skeptical of what they're told by the Biden team.
So as we continue to go forward on these Biden scandals and on the entanglements of Joe Biden in these scandals, it's really going to be incumbent upon the mainstream media to actually do their job.
It's kind of like spousal abuse.
They're essentially taking this behavior from the Bidens and from the intelligence community.
And as they continue to get abused, they will not call them out.
And of course, I don't expect them to do so.
That to me is the most troubling aspect of all of this, Sean.
We do not have an independent media that is prepared to actually stand up to the D.C. establishment and the Biden team.
Let's get your take on all of this, Eric Edgar.
And, you know, in many ways, I've said from the beginning, I didn't think the House Republican impeachment inquiry would likely end an impeachment because of the slim majority Republicans have.
They were down to one.
I think they're now back up to a two-vote majority.
However, criminal referrals could hold over into the next administration should Donald Trump be elected in a mere 147 days.
Well, far be it from me to disagree with my boss and the co-host of this podcast, Peter Schweitzer, but I think that we will see the next.
Just do what Linda does.
She never sucks up to her boss, ever.
That's the business model I'm absolutely trying to embody.
And I think I'm doing an okay job of it.
But I think Peter's right that the media needs to do a better job, but I think that we will see the media do a better job.
I mean, you mentioned this politico piece.
I'm looking at an honest-to-god org chart now of the Biden business model.
We could have had this four years ago because this is just based off of the Hunter Biden laptop.
I guess we've decided now it's okay to use the information because we don't have to pretend like it's some big Russian hoax.
But why is the media now willing to do their job?
It's because Donald Trump's been convicted 34 times.
Like now it's safe and it's okay to actually come out and tell the truth about why Joe Biden's so bad.
And, you know, as I was telling Peter earlier, it's like the Bidens are masters of exploiting the expectations game.
Hunter Biden's people could say, oh no, it's not that he was illegally obtaining a firearm.
He's just a drug addict and sympathetic and we should take pity on him.
That's their legal strategy to get out of this case.
So you're absolutely right that the House needs to do the job that the media didn't do for four years.
And so if there's one thing to be excited about or maybe briefly optimistic about, it's that with the information that the House is forcing to enter the public discourse, the media now, because of what's happened on Trump, may feel like it's safer to do that and combine that with a public that thinks so clearly that we have a two-tiered system of justice where one side gets away with everything and the other side sees everyone in the orbit face the harshest possible penalties.
Maybe then the American people will finally have their day come November.
All right, we'll take a quick break.
We'll come back.
Final thoughts from Peter Schweitzer, Eric Eggers on the other side.
Then your call's coming up.
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All right, a final thought and question from Peter Schweitzer, Eric Eggers, both with the Government Accountability Institute.
I've always gone back to the issue of Joe's big lie.
I never once spoke to my son, my brother, or anybody for that matter about their foreign business deals.
You know, now that you have Politico, they're only like, you know, six years late from your initial book that exposed a lot of this.
And a lot of it comes down, and I think a lot of it is embodied in the whole burisma deal.
Hunter says on Good Morning America, he has no experience in energy, oil, gas, coal, or Ukraine.
Now we know he admits at the time he was addicted to crack cocaine.
And he's making millions.
And then you got the timeline where the Obama administration signs off on this loan guarantee in October 2015.
The alleged call that took place with burisma executives and Hunter from Dubai with Joe days before he goes and leverages the billion.
And son of a B, they fire him and Hunter continues to get paid with no experience.
How is that not anything else but a real quid pro quo?
Yeah, no.
Look, Sean, I mean, you've been saying this since 2018 when we first talked about this.
The Bidens have never answered the question, partly because it's never been asked by the mainstream media.
What did you get paid tens of millions of dollars for from barisma, from China, from Russia?
What did you actually do for the money?
Because guess what?
These foreign oligarchs, these foreign businessmen tied to governments, they're not in the habit of just passing out money for fun.
They actually want something in return, and they've never given a plausible explanation for it.
And we know why.
We know why.
It's because who Joe Biden was, Vice President of the United States, now President of the United States.
And, you know, when Hunter was asked by the Congressional Committee to explain a $1 million payment from a Chinese businessman, he said it was seed money for a hang on one second.
So I got to take a break here.
I'm on a hard break.
Why don't I come back?
I'll ask you one final question each, and that is: you know, how is this all going to end?
Because so many of my people listening to this show just throw their hands up and saying Democrats get away with everything.
I want to ask you both of you, you think that'll happen?
All right, we continue.
Final thoughts: Peter Schweitzer, Eric Edgars with the Government Accountability Institute.
Don't forget Peter's new book, Bestseller, Number One on the New York Times list, Blood Money: Why the Powerful Turn a Blind Eye While China Kills Americans.
Okay, so we've got the Hunter trial, and Eric, we'll let you go first.
And then we have the Biden family lies and the House GOP making criminal referrals for both James and Hunter Biden.
I would imagine if Joe Biden loses the election when he's out of office, probably one with his name on it may not be far behind.
We'll see.
What is your prediction now?
What happens here?
So I go back to something that we saw in the crosstabs of that New York Times Sienna poll that I think came out last year.
And it said that if Americans believed that Joe Biden personally profited off of Hunter Biden's business deals, then that would sway the election by any factor more than anything else.
And that was true in all the five swing states.
And I think that's where this Hunter sham trial is so significant because the stakes are so small.
Like, I mean, at the end of the day, like, we want to see people held to account for justice.
But if he was a drug addict when he signed a form, that to me, as an American, is far less consequential than if he leveraged his father's position as vice president of the United States to make he and his family money while weakening American national security.
That's what this has always been about.
And that's what I think the American people get.
So I think the House Oversight Committee, once this trial is over and done with, they see those stakes.
They see what the left is willing to do to Donald Trump and people in his orbit.
And I think it resonates in a way that even Joe Biden's illegal leveraging of the federal government to register Democrat voters won't be able to overcome.
So I think it makes a very big difference in November.
Well, you know, remember, the initial plan A was no charges by David Weiss at all.
Plan B was after the IRS whistleblowers, and that was the sweetheart deal.
And thankfully, a judge actually read it and said the judge had never seen a deal as sweet as that in the entire time she'd been on the bench.
Even the defense attorney had to admit that for Hunter Biden.
But I tend to agree with Eric.
As important as this is and the need for justice is that real, I think this is the lowest hanging fruit as it relates to the Biden family businesses and the lies that Joe told and his absolute involvement in making money and seemingly offering no services at all whatsoever except their name.
Final word, Peter, what happens?
Yes, I think that in this particular case, I think he's going to be found guilty.
But I agree with you.
I mean, imagine somebody who robs a bank and then gets pulled over for a speeding ticket when they're leaving the bank with all the cash in the back.
That's kind of what this case represents.
That's why I think, you know, if Trump wins in November, number one priority needs to be cleaning house at the Department of Justice.
And I would argue that the choice of Trump's running mate is important, but the choice for Attorney General is even more important.
Any names you recommend?
I think Lon DeSantis would be great.
He's a lawyer.
He fights in the bureaucracy very, very well in the state of Florida.
I think he has a reform agenda.
I think Lon DeSantis would be a great Attorney General.
I don't know if he'd be willing to give up his role as governor, but I mean, I think he would be good.
I don't disagree at all.
Anyway, guys, I appreciate it.
Government Accountability Institute.
And we have Peter's book on Hannity.com, Amazon.com, bookstores around the country.
Thanks, guys.
Appreciate it.
All right, let's get back to our busy phones.
Let us say hi to Jill in Maryland.
Jill, hi.
How are you?
Glad you called.
Hi, Sean.
Hope you had a good week.
Hi.
You know, except for having a tooth ripped out of my mouth, I mean, it wasn't that bad.
Well, I'm sorry to hear that.
You know, just a typical weekend for me, but go ahead.
I've always said the best diet instead of all these drugs would be an exposed root in your tooth.
And then you can't eat, you can't drink, you're going to lose weight.
Let me tell you something.
I don't care how much pain, I'm still eating.
That's not going to stop me from eating.
You and me both.
I've got the Hannity keto-friendly diet, so I'm okay.
I'm good on the eating front.
Good.
I wish I could say the same.
I'm not doing too bad, but I could do better.
So, what I wanted to talk to you about was we are so, and rightfully so, hyper-focused on kind of the shiny object-that's the Trump trials, and to a lesser extent, maybe Hunter Biden's trial and the presidential election coming up in November.
I think we're forgetting about the other races.
The House and the Senate are so important.
Even if we can get Trump back in, if we don't have the House and the Senate, we're in trouble.
And if Biden gets back in and we don't have the House and the Senate, we're in even more trouble.
And I think that we need to focus on some of these senatorial races, the congressional races.
We can't forget about them.
Everybody's sending money to Trump right now.
These other candidates need money.
Well, we had Tim Sheehee on last week.
At the top of the next hour, Kari Lake is coming on the program.
She's running out in Arizona.
Trump is up five in Arizona.
That is a very, obviously Arizona's critical to Donald Trump and to the House and Senate majorities.
I totally agree with you.
And that would also include Nevada and maybe even New Mexico will be in play.
I don't know.
And I just think that it's all hands on deck.
I don't know how do I possibly convey the level of urgency that I feel.
I don't know.
I can't do it.
I can't explain it anymore.
And how many more times can I tell people you've got to get over your reluctance to voting early, voting by mail, pushing your local state representatives for integrity measures, voter ID, signature verification, chain of custody controls, updated voter roles, partisan observers get to watch the voting all day and the vote counting all night, up close, not a thousand feet away like they did in 2020, if you were even allowed in the room.
I completely agree.
Thank you.
And legal ballot harvesting.
I've talked to Laura Trump about it.
I mean, and for those of you that want to volunteer, the RNC is training people to be a partisan observer.
And you can go to these precincts, especially in these swing states, where it really matters.
And you can make sure that there's no shenanigans going on in front of you and watch the voting all day, the vote counting all night, drink a lot of coffee or a lot of Coke and you're good to go.
Drink whatever Joe Biden's going to drink before his debate.
There you go.
Before the debate.
So as a resident of Maryland, I'm afraid that my vote isn't counting a whole lot.
And I have been sending money to Ted Cruz and some other people who, some other races around the country that are going to count.
I'm afraid that the Maryland senatorial Republican senatorial candidate is, you know, he may as well be a Democrat.
It's Larry Hogan.
So I think.
Yeah, Larry Hogan's a rhino.
I mean, if he's going to caucus with Republicans, basically you're electing a Mick Romney type.
But, you know, I mean, I'd rather have him than the typical Democrat you get out of Maryland.
But believe me, he's not getting my endorsement because I just think it would be good for Republicans to be in the majority.
Maybe he could help with judges.
I don't know.
Maybe there's something good he stands for.
I just don't know the guy, to be very frank with you.
I agree with you.
He's maybe better than the Democratic candidate, but he's very much so a rhino.
And we saw that firsthand during COVID and the lockdowns.
He was known as Lockdown Larry.
But I had one other little thing I wanted to talk to you about, and that's the mental health crisis in this country.
I heard you talking about it last week with one of your guests about the veteran suicides.
And I think that the mental health situation in the country right now is just out of control.
And I've talked to friends who have been on the edge of committing suicide.
It's awful.
I also spent several years answering 911 and talked to a lot of people who are just, you know, they're ready to end it all.
I've talked to family members who found their loved ones after a successful suicide.
It's terrible.
And to get mental health right now, if you can find a therapist who's taking new patients, it's probably a several month wait.
And I think that if Trump could maybe run on a platform of trying to, you know, help the mental health field, Biden likes to forgive student loans.
I think that instead of that, maybe have a program where if you're going to school for mental health-related careers, you get grants to go to school.
And if you stay in the field for X number of years, you can maybe have, you don't have to pay the grant back.
I think that if we can, you know, really plump up our, you know.
Listen, all I can say is I really think that the best way to probably tackle this is people that have knowledge and background and experience in this, you know, whatever you can do, people that like to have any time on their hands and can volunteer and help these people.
It's real.
I will tell you, it's very sobering and it's a frightening responsibility that I have felt way more times than I want to or care to admit when somebody reaches out to me because they're in that situation.
And it is very sobering.
It is very, very, there's a certain frightening aspect to it because you want to be able to, you want the right words to come out.
And I'm not a trained professional.
I'm just doing the best I can.
And, you know, thankfully, we've been very successful in getting people the help that they need when they need it.
And the America's Warrior Partnership is great too.
Anyway, thank you, Jill.
Appreciate it.
Let me get other calls in here as we say hi to Bill in Illinois.
Hey, Bill, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
John, pleasure talking to you.
What's up, man?
What's going on?
Happy Monday.
Okay.
Happy Monday to you.
I just think it's hilarious listening to Joe Biden say he's going to accept the outcome of the trial and that he won't pardon Hunter Biden.
Don't buy it for a minute.
There's not a chance he's going to be found guilty.
Okay.
I mean, this is.
Although I disagree.
I think there's a chance.
The evidence was pretty overwhelming.
Do I think the do I would I'd be surprised at either an acquittal or a hung jury?
Not one bit.
Well, there was no guilty verdict on Trump.
I mean, he wasn't guilty, but they found him guilty.
Okay, but here's the thing.
Hunter has the most favorable venue you could have if your last name is Biden.
It's in Delaware for crying out loud.
And the jury, and I don't fault them for this, you know, all are very sympathetic on the issue of addiction.
A lot of it will come down to final jury instructions.
It's not going to be as corrupt and biased, in my view, as what happened in New York, which I wouldn't want it to be for anybody.
But I just think, you know, we've gotten to a point in this country where the judge that you have, the venue in which your case is being tried, probably means more than what the actual law has to do with it.
So you think he'll be found guilty?
I think it could go either way.
Okay, I'm going to say not guilty.
And going back to President Trump, when is he sentenced?
July 11th is the scheduled date.
He apparently had an interview, a Zoom call interview with somebody from the probation office to predetermine things like that.
Anyway.
I think Judge Moron is going to find him some jail time.
That's how I don't see it coming out of here.
I think he will.
Whether or not he'll suspend a pending appeal, we'll see.
If they're going to put a presidential candidate in jail with 120 days or 30 days before 110 days outside of an election, that's insane.
Well, that's what they want.
But that's what lawfare is.
That's the difference.
What I was saying to Republicans last week is you don't have to make it up.
The whole Biden family, no experience and the money that went back and forth and the lies that have been told, you got real issues there.
You don't have to make them up for the Democrats.
They've got real problems, legal problems.
Anyway, I appreciate the call, my friend.
I'm just up on the clock.
Call us back another day, okay?
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And stay tuned for the final hour free-for-all on the Sean Hannity Show.
I want to remind you that your DHS secretary, Alejandro Mayorkis, was on one of the Sunday shows this weekend and asked why Biden took months to implement an asylum restriction.
Well, excuse me, but Martha Raditz, you couldn't be more wrong because he's not even enforcing what he signed on to.
It's so stupid, but I want to play this for you.
President Biden told our David Muir this week that the reason he didn't implement this plan sooner is that he would have been blamed for blowing up that bipartisan deal.
So why did you wait four months to do this?
Martha, the bipartisan deal was rejected once.
We pressed for it again.
It was rejected a second time.
And then we developed this and have implemented it.
And we are at an early stage.
And then if you want the joke of the weekend, you got Biden's spokesperson, Kevin Munos, actually saying that Americans will vote for Biden because they don't want chaos at the border.
I'm like, you got to be serious here, really?
We know the American people want, they don't want chaos.
They don't want chaos at the border, and they do not want chaos in their communities.
And so we have to continue that fight.
We also have to, as I remind you, remind the American people of what Donald Trump is running on.
He wants to round up Latinos.
He wants to round up immigrants across this country.
Mass detention camps.
So we have to do both.
All right, well, we come back.
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I'm Carol Markowitz.
And I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
We've been around the block in media and we're doing things differently.
Normally is about real conversations.
Thoughtful, try to be funny, grounded, and no panic.
We'll keep you informed and entertained without ruining your day.