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Bill O'Reilly - May 29th, Hour 3
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All right, Leonard Skinner's Simple Man News Roundup Information Overload Hour, All Things Simple Man, Self Proclaimed Simple Man, Bill O'Reilly, All Things O'Reilly at Bill O'Reilly.com as we are on uh verdict watch now uh and closing arguments yesterday, and uh I've given you all my thoughts on all of this.
Uh jury instructions, as per my prediction, were atrocious.
Uh the U.S. Supreme Court has held that there must be uh unanimity in jury verdicts.
It's required under the sixth and seventh amendments, and the requirement extends to any and all issues, and to find someone guilty, jurors must always agree without dissent on every necessary element of the purported crime, which is the exact opposite of what Judge Mershawn has instructed this jury.
I mean, it's pretty amazing times we're living in, uh, but I stand by a prediction that I've been making.
I don't think this is whatever the verdict is, and I'm still hoping for a hung jury.
Uh I don't think it will impact the election in just a hundred and fifty-nine days.
What say you, Mr. Bill O'Reilly, sir?
How are you?
Okay.
Um, you know, I'm watching this CSGO, and um it's terrible for the country.
Um and it wouldn't have been brought in many other jurisdictions in the United States.
Um the thing that really caught me was in the judges' um instructions to the jurors.
And remember, these are some people, there's a couple of sophisticated lawyers on there and all that, but mostly regular folks.
He says, uh, you guys have to conclude that uh Mr. Trump acted with intent to commit another crime.
Okay, that's very complicated in itself, but then he goes, but you don't have to agree on what that crime is to reach a guilty verdict.
And then just think about that for a minute.
Yeah, he actually the w actual words you use because you've really honed in on a very important part.
One thing in particular the judge said is that he delivered, I think the pinnacle of all of this, and I've been describing it as you know, the judge in the final hours because frankly the prosecution got destroyed uh in the trial, and so he had to throw lifeline after lifeline,
and we began to see that unfold when he would not let the former FEC chair explain the law, uh, nor would he let Bob Costello impeach the testimony of Michael Cohn, which would have been devastating.
And then culminating in that, you know, sh that that meltdown that the judge had, and then culminating in what happened yesterday in in the courtroom, allowing the prosecution to say over and over again something that that was never proven in this case, and the d judge did nothing.
The jury was told dozens of times that payments were campaign violations, but that has not been established and no evidence has been presented of that, but he allowed it all in, Bill.
Yeah, and that's why it'll be thrown out on appeal.
Um let's get back to your original question, because you can debate this endlessly, and um, you know, on the first two hours of your program, you have.
So I think that Trump will go down in the polls for the next two or three weeks, and that'll be celebrated by the people who hate Trump.
And you know, that comprises about ninety percent of the corporate media.
So you'll see the next couple of polls.
He'll he'll go down by my beat him by one or two.
But then as the summer goes on, and people are vacationing and they're seeing the prices that they're paying for their leisure time.
An astronomical.
I mean, I don't know whether whether you've been out and about, but I I I am my jaw is now slacking with By the way, and Bill, we can afford whatever we want.
I uh I get sticker shocked it that way.
I I I can't escape my upbringing in Leviton.
I don't know about you.
I I say it all the time.
I mean, you know, living paycheck to paycheck does l never left my brain cells.
That just I think the the way I did when I was a poor person in that way.
I walk in and a smoothie is costing me seventeen dollars.
No.
By the way, what are you drinking smoothies for?
That kind of stuff.
It's healthy.
But I don't buy it.
I'm not buying.
I'm not paying 17 for when regular folks, families go out and vacation this summer, you are facing financial Armageddon.
If you go to a restaurant and a hotel rooms in New York City, the average hotel room now is scraping a thousand dollars a night.
I mean, it it and so that kind of a um economic reality this summer when everyone is out, it's a different time than the winter, obviously.
I mean, people are out and they're having fun and they're renting things and are staying places and they're eating in restaurants, and they're gonna pay more than double what they paid last year because they're piling it on the uh the businesses.
That is going to erode all of this.
So when September rolls around, and we are talking about confronting the presidents, my book comes out September 10th.
How about that?
Get that plug in there.
Um September rolls around, this will be a uh distant memory.
Another point I want to make.
This fiasco of a trial has caused an enormous amount of structural damage to the United States.
Now I'm coming at it from a historian's point of view, not a journalist.
I'm one I think I'm the only one that does a combo of history and journalism every day.
Oh, geez, do we have to pat you on the back every time you're on?
Seriously?
Uh just give the analysis.
My goodness.
I don't think so.
But it's caused structural damage.
How so?
Robert De Niro's the best example of this.
Okay.
So you get a guy out there who believes what he's saying.
He's not a phony, and Biden uh cajoled him, the Biden people, not Joe himself, but because Joe himself doesn't know anything.
Um cajoled him to get out there.
And it angered so many Americans, angered them.
Robert Nero's eighty, he doesn't care anymore about his career, it's over, so he can do what he wants.
But I I know a lot of people as do you.
They were furious about that.
About what De Niro did, furious that he intruded that way.
It wasn't just De Niro.
He was there on behalf of the Biden campaign.
But but face of it.
The words are coming out of his mouth.
That's corrosive to our society because it's happening on a lesser scale all over the place.
And when you get involved with now you don't just dislike your opposition, you hate them.
You want to see them suffer.
But but Bill, let me let me take you back to 2016 and Donald Trump's election.
And and maybe uh uh or Maxine Waters, you know, follow them into the gas station and the grocery store, and you get in their faces and you tell them they're not wanted any place, anywhere anymore, or Madonna.
Uh I think an awful lot about blowing up the White House after Donald Trump was elected.
And the and the and the parades of people and the predictions.
It's not stopped since the day he came down the escalator at more at Trump Tower.
No, but it's it's so much worse now for two reasons.
Number one, we have the second worst president in our history.
And I and I actually had a debate with Trump himself on the phone about this.
I said, Look, uh you tell you're saying a Biden's a worse.
You're not worse than James Buchanan, okay.
I know nobody knows James McKee will, but she's home now, but he is the second worst.
So now you have the anger about having an incompetent, terrible president.
And then you have the justice system being entirely corrupted.
You know, equal justice for all, and we were brought up in school to think, hey, we have protections here, we're gonna get a trial of our peers, we get into trouble, and people see this manipulation and this unfair system, and they understand it could happen to them.
It can happen at that.
Somebody doesn't like you and they're powerful, they come after you and they can wreck you your whole life.
Let me tell you who agrees with you, Alan Dershwitz.
He said, if there is a conviction here, it will change the justice system forever.
It will weaponize the system.
It will mean that both sides will try to use the legal system as a way of winning elections.
He says if there's an acquittal, maybe at least we can say the jury system works, but if there's a conviction or even a hung jury, it will show that the prosecution benefits from bringing a case which is no crime at all.
It's not who should it benefit.
It's Biden who benefits.
Of course.
It was his guy that, you know, led the defense.
It wasn't Alvin Bragg.
It was the third highest ranking DOJ official of Joe Biden.
Right.
But it also brings a level of vengeance into the justice system, which is not supposed to be that.
You are innocent until proven guilty.
But a judge is telling the jurors, hey, you know, yeah, you might not understand what the crime is, but it doesn't really matter whether you understand it or agree on it, just convict him of something.
That's basically what Murrachan was doing.
He was basically saying to these twelve people, just find some way to convict him.
I'm a pretty much that the simple analysis.
Just find See, I I think he finally had to weigh in as harshly as he did, because it it was becoming an unmitigated disaster.
Michael Cohn was gutted on the stand by the defense in this case.
He was their star witness, no matter what.
I mean, ever all roads lead to Michael Cohn in this case.
And he got gutted.
So Mershawn has to prevent even somebody like Bradley Smith, the former FEC chair, from explaining the law.
No, I'll do that.
Okay, so he greatly limits his ability to even describe the law.
What's the point of calling him?
In the case of Bob Costello, he would impeach all of Michael Cohn's testimony, and had he been allowed, he would also point out that he spent an hour and a half on a Zoom call with the prosecution, and that's Alvin Bragg's office, and told them all the exculpatory evidence that was out there and available that needed to then be presented to the grand jury that indicted Donald Trump.
I mean, these are all things that will come up after if there was a conviction, and I hope there's not still.
I'm holding out hope.
Do you hold out any hope or no?
Let me advance the story.
Not only did Costello say that, but Alvin Bragg's predecessor told him that.
Alvin Bragg didn't want to bring the case until he was humiliated when those two guys quit.
was told by his predecessor there's not enough here you don't bring this in and spend millions of dollars When there simply isn't the clarification that you need to charge a former president with a felony.
Let me ask you this.
Let's say there is a conviction in this case.
Okay, does Donald Trump get released on his own recognizance pending appeal?
Yeah, they uh well hang on a second.
Does this judge uh remand him to jail?
No.
Uh does he he has the ability based on New York law to sentence him right there on the spot post-conviction?
Does he does he want to put an ankle bracelet on him and confine him at home in Mar-a-Lago and not let him come campaign or go to his own uh convention or the debates?
What does he do, Bill?
The Supreme Court would stay all of that.
Not so sure.
That would go right to the Supreme Court.
He goes boom.
Okay, And that'll none of that'll happen.
So he'll be freed um until the appeal is heard.
That's what will happen.
So in other words, released of his own on his own recognizance, pending appeal.
Right.
Okay.
I mean, I think that's probably the outcome, although with Judge Mershawn at this point, I put nothing past him.
And he has the he has the sole discretion there, Bill.
Look, if Trump wins the election, he can come back at Merchant.
Just remember that.
So these people now, they have skin in the game to defeat Trump.
Because once Trump's president again, he can go into the Justice Department, go, I want a full investigation of this whole thing.
So it doesn't happen again in another president.
Well, remember, the judge now will be invited to all of the parties.
He'll be part of that secret high society that is New York.
I guess Michael Comb will be a part of it.
I read he was he was a big star out in the Hamptons this weekend.
And uh not a place I've hung out much in my life.
Uh went to went to tournaments for my kids out there, but uh and and you'll also see Alvin Bragg.
I mean, they they're uh their credibility among the New York elite is gonna go through the roof.
Yeah, I heard that Mary Chan and De Niro going camping together.
Did you hear that?
Over the Adirondix.
Uh, you better be careful.
Watch, he needs to watch Goodfellows.
All right, all things simple man Bill O'Reilly.
Uh thank you, sir.
Appreciate you being with us.
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Uh let me go to uh and this was pretty interesting, even over at fake news CNN.
This has got to drive the left.
If there if there was a guilty verdict in this case, and again I'm I'm hoping for a hung jury.
I am.
But I'm also preparing for the worst case scenario, as I've been saying all day.
But you got a CNN data analyst showing that all of this all of this lawfare, all of this weaponization has hadn't hasn't had no impact on public opinion as it relates to the election in 159 days.
Listen.
Think Trump did something illegal in the New York hush money case.
I've been interested in whether or not these numbers would change at all during the course of this trial.
Simply put, John, they have not pre-opening statements think Trump did something illegal 46%.
After the direct examination of Michael Cohn by the prosecution, look at where we are now 46%.
The percentage of Americans who think that the charges are very serious in fact drop from 40% to a little bit more than 35% during the course of this trial.
So yes perhaps things might have changed with those 12 jurors but comes to the larger American public there has been no change at least so far.
Okay now I kind of agree with O'Reilly you might he Trump might take a small hit you know if he got a conviction in this case which I hope does not happen.
But I think it would be short lived.
I don't think it's going to have any impact.
And I said this this morning on Fox and Friends.
I don't think it will have an impact on the election in 159 days.
You know, you have another CNN host asking the Biden's communication director, you know, if If Biden's chances for re-election are shot and and if you don't improve your numbers I mean this this all goes to the absolute meltdown of Democrats that we discussed in detail yesterday.
I mean Democrats are in a full blown freak out they don't know what to do.
And to watch my friend James Carville absolutely losing it this weekend in in on videotape and and telling Democrats that that they're full of Adam Schiff and to stop ignoring the economy and lying to people I mean there's a reason that minority voters African Americans Hispanic Americans and young people are abandoning the Democrats you know although his strategy of well let's steal Trump's medical records I'm not sure is exactly a good idea.
But anyway Carville is you know he's not wrong in his analysis.
They are so off kilter it's unreal.
There's nothing you can point to that they've been successful at except maybe lawfare and the weaponization of our justice system and and making the world more unstable than ever before and opening up our borders to hostile regimes to just cross over 30,000 in just the last six months from China alone.
Never mind Iran Russia Syria Yemen Egypt Afghanistan unreal.
Anyway listen to this do you agree though if you don't improve and don't improve your numbers your chances to to winning the White House again are shot.
Yeah what I'm telling you is that this campaign is doing the work to win black voters in all voters who are going to decide the pathway to 270 electoral votes in November.
That's what our sustained efforts are geared towards they're not geared towards moving a poll in April or May of 2024.
It's geared towards maintaining consistent long-term relationships with the voters who are going to decide this election there's only one campaign that is doing that on a consistent basis and that's Joe Biden's amazing all right let's get to our busy phones here.
Michelle is in Utah.
Michelle, how are you?
Glad you called.
And the next time you go to Crown Burger, please tell everyone I say hi.
Will do.
Thanks for taking my call.
So my question was, you know, I've just been listening to, you know, what we all think about this trial.
And despite the outcome, I think if it's a guilty verdict, whether he goes to jail or not doesn't necessarily mean anything.
I think they're going to try to use this going forward even after with maybe doing like the protests, like paid protesters, and Antifa and paint them as as disgruntled MAGA people and cause chaos and basically just um go ahead and once they do that, they'll say, okay, well, MAGA people are domestic terrorists,
and then they'll put restrictions on them and then they'll use that as a narrative going forward with with how you know we can't we can't trust this and we can't do that, and that will be their campaign.
That'll be another way that they are using having election interferences just however they might go with the aftermath of this.
So my question was just what do you think, you know, your caution would be to MAGA people and Trump supporters out there despite the verdict, you know, whether I mean if it's guilty, even if he's not in jail, what do you think you know what we should do about that?
Well, I think the best thing that you could do about that is to remember all of it, remember how you feel uh about all of this and and be as motivated as possible to not only vote but get as many people to vote as you can.
I mean, the answer is is elections have consequences.
And if you want this to continue, then it will continue if Joe Biden is re-elected.
If you want this to end, it will end if Donald Trump is re-elected in spite of these proclamations by the left that democracy is in peril.
Now I uh I always urge people to be uh to be peaceful.
I mean, what what what options do you have here?
We're not them.
I don't want conservatives to be out there like lunatic radical leftists in the summer of 2020 and their five hundred and seventy-four riots killing dozens of Americans, injuring thousands of cops and causing billions in property damage, and us being lied to and being told it's mostly peaceful.
No, I mean, I I think the the best revenge, if you will, and if you want to send a message and you want to change the system, has to be at the ballot box.
That's the answer.
And that happens in a hundred and fifty-nine days, and actually sooner than that.
And please go to Hannity.com and look at our interactive m map.
Is it uh is it a front and center on the on the website, Linda?
It is front and center on the website, Sean.
Yeah, you click on your state, you find out when your registration uh how to register in your state.
You find out when early voting starts in your state, you find out how to vote by mail in your state, and I urge every conservative Republican, overcome your reluctance, your resistance to voting early, voting by mail, and Republicans now I know are actively trying to get into the legal ballot harvesting business.
I hope they match the efforts of Democrats, and don't start out election night down hundreds of thousands of votes.
Don't do it.
So that's my advice.
Yeah, but always be peaceful.
You know, it's w that's not who we are.
And you know what?
We have an opportunity here to get this country on the right track.
Let's do it.
Uh Don Lake Ronconcaba next on the Sean Hannity Show.
What's up, big Don?
How are you?
How's your wonderful state of New York treaty you?
Lousy.
I just came back from Florida a few uh about a week ago.
So uh it wasn't long enough though, I'll tell tell you that.
Hey, my friend, I don't think this court's gonna stop until they get the uh what they desperately want, and they want that label convicted felon put on uh Trump.
I think the political ads are already written, they're ready to roll.
That's why uh President Biden's ready to deliver a speech in the White House following the jury verdict.
I think it's all been choreographed, it's all ready to uh ready to roll.
I think the damage to our judiciary sprange is overwhelming.
But I gotta thank you, my friend.
I gotta thank you for sharing your microphone on TV and radio with uh you know with Greg Jarrett and Leo Tyrrell, Mark Levin, Jonathan Troy and Alan Dershkowitz, uh because they've been I think Dershwitz is right.
If there's a conviction, it will change the justice system forevermore.
Yep.
In sixty years of practicing law, he's never seen anything like this in his life.
Of course.
The damage will be great, and it will weaponize the well, the system our DOJs already weaponized.
It's not even a question anymore.
Right.
And now the question is, will we fire those people responsible for this?
Because that's what that's what the election really is all about.
Well, and that's your opportunity, and that's everybody's opportunity.
And if you don't think elections matter, well, how uh you know, how's your open borders working out for you?
How is the the fund dismantle a no bail laws working out for you?
How's your educational system working out for you?
How's how's Biden inflation working out for you?
Well, my question's gonna be is uh to you and to your legal experts that you have on how do we we've repair the damage brought forth on our judicial system.
There's no going forward at this point.
I mean when the bo when the books are written the history books are written this is really extremely damaging.
It is incalculable damage.
Yep.
Uh and and you know let's see what happens.
I mean I'm holding out hope.
I really don't have any I don't have much hope of an acquittal.
Yeah.
I do have hope of a potential hung jury.
I hope that there are people that see through this and if not uh I do believe that the avenues uh for this to be overturned on appeal are many and Trump will pursue them.
Anyway my friend appreciate the call as always God bless you and your wonderful family here.
Uh let us say hi to Jim in Texas.
Jim you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Hi.
Hey good afternoon Sean what I was calling about was uh I was listening to uh uh MSNBC yesterday and they were going on about uh the whole catch and kill that and catch and kill catch and kill the Democrats never did catch and kill this is all about you know uh swaying the election Hillary Clinton used catch and kill in 2016.
Okay.
Um now as far as Biden goes and also Hillary Clinton goes they had the mainstream media in their back pocket they had the tech companies in their back pocket Twitter which is now X of course uh Google, everybody you couldn't post anything about the she had the entire deep state behind her.
No reasonable prosecutor would prosecute no raid on on Hillary Clinton's home no raid on Biden's four locations of top secret classified documents no consequences for deleting subpoenaed emails no consequences for dirty bought and paid for Russian disinformation dossier that happened to be labeled the business expense and and they funneled it through a law firm.
It wasn't a law what wasn't a legal expense.
So yeah the double standard is nauseating.
Yeah and you know if if Trump had you know all that behind him he wouldn't have had to do the catch and kill and catch and kill has never been catch and kill is not illegal end of sentence there's nothing there's nothing illegal about it.
And it's something that a relationship I guess he and so many other people in Hollywood had with you know with with people in that business and the tabloid business.
Anyway, my friend, I'm going to move on.
Long Island Phil is next.
Phil, you're on the Sean Hannity Show.
I don't know about you, but my heart is troubled because I know the fixes in.
I think we all know the fixes in.
And my concern is that, you know, knowing what they're capable of and how desperate they are, who's to say they didn't buy, you know, who said these 12 jurors are bought and paid for, I'm thinking, by Biden mega donors like George Soros.
Josh.
Listen, I mean, maybe Trump will.
end up being proven right even Mother Teresa couldn't beat these charges.
I don't know.
I don't know I hold out hope until we get a verdict and then based on that verdict we'll see what Judge Mershawn has done but I will tell you that you'll watch the media they're giddy they're gonna they're gonna love this I mean look look at the comments I mentioned earlier Katie Kirk expressed her shock that Trump appears to be gaining popularity because of his legal troubles.
It seems that Trump has the edge right now despite all of his legal woes and the fact that you know he's on trial and Stormy Daniels and Michael Coney seems to be surprisingly gaining momentum not losing it.
Yes Katie because the you and and all of your Trump derangement syndrome brothers and sisters and the mob in the media don't even see your own hypocritical bias and it's backfired.
The American people see through it that's how I would describe that.
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