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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, Congressman Andy Ogles of Tennessee has an amazing idea.
You know, you have all these little, you know, spoiled brat protesters all over these college campuses and their little encampments and all the negotiations with these pathetically weak administrations and their discussions about their dietary demands and everything in between.
You know, a horrible story about UCLA.
Did you see that story, Linda, earlier today?
That before you get into an encampment, you know, they're asking people basically if they are pro-Israel.
Did you see that?
Are you a Zionist?
Where's your star?
That's what you're saying.
Exactly.
Yeah, where's your star?
I mean, I can't believe we're living in times like this.
And the fact that presidents of these universities are letting calls for antifada, death to Israel, death to America, pro-Hamas rhetoric that is being uttered there.
It just boggles my mind that this is ongoing and the administration's literally sitting and, oh, okay, let's negotiate.
Well, we're going to give a number of scholarships every year to people from Gaza to come into the U.S.
Well, the children of Gaza, as we've pointed out, are indoctrinated pretty much from the time that they're born through cartoons and books when they go to school to hate the Jewish people.
And I don't know how you determine or ascertain whether or not the brainwashing sticks or doesn't.
Anyway, Tennessee Republican Andy Ogles introduced legislation this week to send Hamas sympathizing student visa holders home and told Hamas sympathizing student visa holders, go study abroad in Gaza.
By the way, I want to expand this.
Iran has now the university now offering scholarships to Americans that are protesting on college campuses.
I want some of these college kids to take them up on that offer.
I think you ought to go to the country of Iran, and I think you ought to go to school there.
And if there's something that comes up in Iran that you don't like and you want to protest, I think you should do the exact same thing at the Iranian University that you're doing at one of these, quote, Ivy League institutions or institutions of higher learning and see how well that works out for you.
And if you happen to be a liberal and you believe in the, and by the way, I think everybody believes in equal rights.
I do for sure.
For women, you might be a little bit surprised at the dress code that you're going to experience in the country of Iran that you love so much.
It might be a good educational experience for all these spoiled brats that have taken over these college campuses that are chanting all of these anti-Israel pro-Hamas slogans of theirs.
Anyway, Congressman Ogles legislation.
Anyway, you introduced it this week.
Congressman, great idea.
I fully support it.
I don't think you're going to get much support from Democrats, but I hope Republicans will support you.
Well, you know, I actually met with leader Scalise before we left D.C. to go back to our districts or to come home, and he was actually interested in the idea.
So I'm going to push and try to get it on the floor at some point.
But look, you know, we have students from other countries who are guests, guests of the United States of America.
And coming here is a privilege, not a right.
And if you're going to come to this country, you're going to break our laws, you're going to obstruct, you're going to, quite frankly, hate America, then you can get the hell out.
You know, we don't need you here.
I love my country, and the people that are here should love this country too.
Let me ask you about, do you think that these kids, now we're talking about some of the, I guess, most, I guess, formerly most prestigious universities in the country.
We're talking about Ivy League schools like Harvard and Yale and Columbia.
They're all Ivy League institutions where a lot of this has been going on.
You talk about other schools.
You saw what happened at UCLA.
And, you know, are you a Zionist as kids are maybe trying to enter the encampment area or anywhere around or surrounding the encampment area?
How frightening is all of that?
How frightening is the chanting and the rhetoric that we've been hearing now for months?
It's insane.
And imagine if you're a Jewish person, a Jewish student, and you're on that campus.
I mean, you're going to be afraid to go outside, to go to class, to finish and take your exams.
I mean, this is, look, if this was a bunch of Christians who set up an encampment and were demanding, you know, chapel or more prayer in school or some other religious type of thing, they would have shut this thing down a long time ago because they're woke liberals.
And these universities agree with the protest.
They're not doing a darn thing about it.
And so there should be a reckoning both with the universities, but also with all these knucklehead kids that are, again, are literally guilty of anti-Semitic racism.
So I happen to know a lot of parents that have kids that are getting ready to go to college.
And let me tell you something that I've noticed and I know for a fact to be true is where maybe in the past, and I'm talking about friends of mine in New York or New Jersey and people that I know that their kids are either college age or becoming college age and they're thinking about what schools to apply to.
And maybe in the past, they would have applied to some of the institutions we're talking about, George Washington University, UCLA, USC, Columbia, Harvard, Yale, et cetera.
No, almost without exception, every parent I know is advising their kids to start looking elsewhere.
They're looking at UNC.
They're looking at UVA.
They're looking at Vanderbilt, where you are in Tennessee.
They're looking at Wake Forest.
They're looking at Elon College.
They're looking at colleges all over the state of Florida, Florida State, for example, or University of Miami.
All of these parents, they don't want to send their kids there anymore.
Now, interestingly, we see applications to southern schools going up significantly and applications simultaneously to these so-called formerly prestigious universities going down.
And I would imagine this trend is probably going to accelerate.
Do you agree?
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, we have our oldest child, our daughter, is a rising senior.
So we're going through that process.
We're going on campus tours.
And there's no way in the world that I would let my daughter go to one of these universities.
I'd be scared to death for her safety.
And not to mention, you know, she's grounded in her beliefs and her faith and her conservatism, quite frankly.
And so I know she would be a light in the darkness, but I don't want to subject her to that.
And quite frankly, you know, come to Vanderbilt.
Go to one of these other universities where you get to be yourself, but you're not indoctrinated in this.
By the way, you know how hard it is to get into these schools?
UVA, or Vanderbilt, any of the ones we talked about?
Let me give you an example.
I have a friend of mine.
They had a child.
I won't say who it is.
And the kid had a 4.3 GPA.
Now, how do you go to 4.3?
That means you took advanced placement courses.
You took harder courses.
Had a 35 out of 36 on the ACT, which is nearly a perfect score.
And the kid did not get accepted to Vanderbilt.
Can you believe that?
That's how hard it is to get into those southern schools now.
Well, like you said, you know, the free market is speaking and speaking loudly.
So a school like Vanderbilt is going to have more market appeal to parents who want their kids to grow up in a normal world.
Meanwhile, in the Ivy League bubble, again, what I think what Americans need to understand is these university presidents, they're siding with Hamas.
They're siding with the Palestinians when they side with these students.
And when you understand what happened on October 7th, the rape of babies, the killing of babies and toddlers and women, et cetera, et cetera, I mean, that's who they're defending.
That's unconscionable.
We as American people should be standing and standing strong with Israel.
And then the idea that Biden will withhold armaments or ammunition from Israel, again, we have Americans that are still being held hostage.
So we have to send a message.
This behavior on these campuses on American soil is unacceptable.
How is it possible that they have never learned in all their years at these institutions of higher learning?
How is it they've never learned the truth about the history of Israel?
How is it that they've never learned about what radical Islamic terrorist groups are like?
They never learned what is in Hamas's charter.
Why is it they don't know what I know, and I've been to Israel a number of times, that border towns are hit with, you know, over the years, hundreds of thousands of rockets, Lebanon, Hezbollah from the north, and Gaza, Hamas from the south.
And now the Houthi rebels have joined in out of Yemen, all of them, by the way, supported by the number one state sponsor of terror, Iran.
How is it they don't know all of this?
How come they don't know the treatment of in terms of civil liberties of people in these countries that are governed by Sharia law?
How is it they don't know any of that?
Well, it's an abject failure of the Department of Education.
I mean, this is why this 24 election, and on a number of fronts, why it's so important, why it's going to be historic.
We've got to hold the House, win the Senate, win the White House.
We've got to start holding our own government, our own agencies, the agencies that are spying on a McCritt course in this country.
Our economy is faltering.
We're weak on a foreign policy front, all because of a woke left administration.
But this has been going on for years.
John, you know, the Department of Education has been a failure.
I mean, if this was a business, if this was some computer business or a manufacturing business, it would have been shuttered a long time ago because they don't produce results.
They don't produce a product that is marketable on the world, the global scale, global marketplace.
And so we've got to fix that.
We've got to push that back to the states, let the states like Tennessee educate their kids, let California, heaven forbid, educate their kids.
But that being said, that's what our founding fathers intended, and that's what we have to get back to.
So we've had you on the program a couple of times, and I got to give credit to our executive producer, Linda, here, because she discovered you before I did.
And then we first had you on the program, and I'm like, I really like this guy.
And then we've had you on a number of times since.
And you're a freshman congressman.
You've introduced 100 pieces of legislation, 37 of which have passed the House, three pieces signed into law, which is a record.
In other words, the most standalone legislation passed by any freshman, I think, in the history of Congress.
Is that true?
We've only gone back about 40 years, but it's likely to be true.
So I don't want to make that bold of a statement.
I want to be accurate, but yes, yes, it's certainly a record that's been set.
But I went up there to legislate to try to fix and save our republic.
And I can't do that by sitting on my hands.
And so we've got to have these tough conversations.
We've got to call a spade as paid, and we've got to go fight like hell.
And that's what I'm going to do.
Well, we appreciate everything you're doing.
What's your reaction to your colleague earlier today filing these articles of impeachment, which I think, frankly, is pretty good.
I'm talking about Corey Mills and this about a real quid pro quo, and that is the monies that were delegated by Congress because Congress has to approve every penny of spending, but that monies that were supposed to go to Israel, he's withholding based on the condition that Israel follow Joe's orders, if you will, to fight the war the way he wants it fought.
That seems like a quid and a pro and a quo to me.
Well, look, Corey's a dear friend of mine.
He is a true patriot.
I support him 100%.
You know, I've offered articles of impeachment as well, and I think it's timely for Corey, Congressman Mills, to be doing it today.
And I'll fully support him in this endeavor.
Well, I appreciate that.
All right.
Keep up the good work.
Congressman Andy Ogles, the great state of Tennessee, sir.
We appreciate you being with us.
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Just to dovetail on what the congressman said, Biden, Blinken, and Austin all have to be out their minds.
If they think for one second that they're going to push Israel into a corner, they got these guys trapped like rats in Rafa.
And you don't think Netanyahu, who lost his brother in Entebbe, is going to bring them out either feet first or to stay in trial?
What is Biden thinking?
They didn't tell us how to fight our war after 9-11.
Why are we telling them how to fight their war on their 9-11?
Well, great question.
It makes you scratch your head, doesn't it?
I mean, these are unprecedented times.
The worst part is, and, you know, my mom used to always say, you're going to rule the day.
You'll rule the.
And she was usually right when she said it because I did rue the day that I did a lot of dumb stuff in my life.
But I can tell you that we're going to rule the day as a country.
It is incalculable the damage that Joe Biden is causing by doing this.
It is so dangerous.
He has emboldened our enemies.
He has betrayed our allies.
And he has surrendered in the war on terror.
I don't know.
I don't even have enough words, adjectives, descriptions to describe how I truly feel.
None.
Because we're betraying our number one ally in the Middle East.
Do you know I was in the Navy and Israel is one of only two countries that if our ships are hit, if our planes have an emergency, if there's anything wrong, we can limp into and feel safe.
We know we're protected.
Unbelievable.
Why are we not giving them the same type of courtesy?
Of support, courtesy.
You know, how come we don't have the moral clarity?
I do.
You do.
Joe doesn't.
But now he's got a problem.
A real quid pro quo.
Another one, by the way, on top of the real one with the money.
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We mentioned this earlier.
Corey Mills, congressman, now prepping articles of impeachment against Joe Biden after he warned that the U.S. will stop supplying offensive weapons to Israel if it forces, if its forces launch an invasion of Rafah.
And just as a side note, all the times Joe says don't, don't to Putin, he does.
Don't to Israel, they do.
Don't to Iran, they do.
Now don't go into Rafah.
Well, Israeli tanks are now beginning to encircle Rafa.
But obviously a new poll is out showing that Democrats now believe Israel is committing genocide, which is a complete lie.
What happened October the 7th was the worst terrorist attack in their history, and they are defending their country from a terrorist organization that has in their charter the destruction of Israel.
That's what they would be doing.
And anyway, a lot of Jewish organizations, this was in the Jerusalem Post, are furious with Biden over his betrayal of Israel.
And it's even deeper than that because he is emboldening the world's enemies.
But anyway, back to Corey Mills for a second.
And anyway, after, you know, basically Mills' first-year lawmaker unveiled the impeachment resolution late yesterday, and it charges Biden with abuse of power since he's planning now to pursue this action as he's been involved in this today.
And, you know, here we go.
Isn't it really about a quid and a pro and a quo?
Joining us now, Sean Davis, CEO, co-founder of the Federalist, and Carol Roth, by the way, last week she testified before Congress on behalf of small business owners, and Sean is waging his own war against the Biden administration over censorship and infringement of his organization's First Amendment rights.
Welcome both of you to the program.
I want to get your reaction.
I'll begin with you, Carol Roth, to this move by Republicans and Corey Mills based on Democratic standards.
I think this is far more appropriate than anything the Democrats were arguing during the Ukraine impeachment.
It 100% is, Sean.
And I think that regardless of what anybody thinks about what's going on geopolitically, there are two things that are very clear.
One is that Hamas is a terrorist organization.
Everybody knows it's a terrorist organization.
So to be seen aiding it, abetting it, trying to pacify its supporters is absolutely disgusting.
The other thing that seems to not be being brought up in the corporate press is that Hamas is holding five American citizens.
The president of the United States.
Well, I'm obviously not the corporate press because I've been mentioning it often, and he hasn't lifted a finger to help get those hostages out, has he?
Amen.
And he hasn't been talking about them.
Most Americans couldn't name one of those people because we don't have a president who has stood up and named the hostages, gotten the support, the rallying behind them, and done anything to help them.
And now he's helping the terrorists who captured them.
So yes, the articles of impeachment are the least of what should be done regarding Joe Biden and his absolutely disgusting stance on this issue.
Let's get your reaction, Sean Davis, on this before we get into the very specific issues you're challenging the administration on.
Yo, I think Carol is exactly right.
What a great patriot she is.
That we were dragged through a completely absurd impeachment.
I think it was 2019 where Joe Biden accused Trump of doing a quid pro quo with money in exchange for political acts.
What Joe is doing here is he's running interference for Hamas, a literal terrorist organization.
He's doing it in exchange for votes in Dearborn, Michigan, and he's doing it in contravention of what Congress said.
So, yeah, he should absolutely be impeached.
And I'm glad Corey Mills is doing it.
But honestly, I'm a little disappointed that it's taken this long.
I mean, the double standard that exists in Washington, D.C., where the Democrats get to do whatever they want and Republicans just have to sit back and content themselves with having a tiny majority, it honestly drives me nuts.
You have brought a First Amendment case against the Biden administration and their attempt, you're alleging, to dismiss the Federalist First Amendment case against the government for violating your constitutional rights through illegal censorship activities.
The court also granted your request, your organization's request, for an expedited preliminary discovery.
And, you know, I really want to know how this is all going to play out because it impacts all of us that are in media.
I mean, you know, nobody seems to really care, Sean, and I don't complain or whine about it.
But, you know, I did have thousands of my personal text messages that were released to the public.
Nobody ever asked my permission.
I thought we had privacy in this country.
Apparently, we don't.
Between, you know, my text messages with Paul Manafort, they were all released.
Kaylee McInaney, they were all released.
Mark Meadows, they were all released.
There's nothing I said in any of those text messages that I hadn't said publicly.
It's pretty offensive to me that we don't have this type of behavior by our government.
And add to that, it's been confirmed by Jim Jordan and others that my social media presence by name was censored, and I was shadow banned all throughout the 2020 campaign.
Yeah, it's proof that the First Amendment, both of the press and of speech, which everyone has, is under assault in this country, and it's under assault by the left.
And it may be my organization's name, the Federalists, we're also working with Daily Wire in the state of Texas, maybe our name on the lawsuit, but it's actually the Constitution that's on trial here.
It's our right to free speech and the free press that's on trial.
And thankfully, so far, a federal court has looked at the case and said, you know what, Biden administration, I'm not going to throw this case out like you want me to.
And in fact, we're going to start doing some discovery here.
So it's going to be really interesting to learn what they were actually up to because up until now, we were having to do our own research from public sources.
Now we're actually going to start getting into their communications and what they were doing with big tech and how they were scheming to shut you down and shut me down and shut Carol down and shut the Federalists down.
So it's great news this week, but we need everyone fighting back against this regime that's trying to shut down our free speech rights whenever we criticize them or report on facts they don't like.
I keep reminding everybody it's 178 days to Election Day.
And much sooner than that, there'll be early voting that I hope Republicans and conservatives embrace, not the system I like, but the one we're stuck with.
You know, look at the free speech issues just involving this case in New York.
Donald Trump has a complete gag order on him.
You have a judge threatening to throw the former president in jail.
Stormy Daniels gets to taunt Donald Trump online immediately after her second day on the stand yesterday.
Michael Cohn, their star witness, is all over TikTok wearing a Trump in jail shirt, announcing maybe a campaign for Congress and asking for gifts.
And the judge hasn't put a gag order on either one of those.
It seems to me like that's not equal application of the laws in our country, is it?
No, it's a rank double standard.
It's shocking to me.
Even having seen what we've all seen with the impeachments and the J6 stuff, it is still shocking to see a judge whose daughter, I believe, has made millions off of these left-wing hoaxes against Trump somehow gag a current leading presidential candidate.
Because remember, if you look at polls, Trump's winning right now, but we're seeing a corrupt left-wing partisan Democrat judge put a gag order on a presidential candidate in the middle of the campaign while he very happily allows all of the anti-Trump witnesses to go literally make money off the trial.
There's times where I honestly can't believe I'm in America watching this kind of stuff unfold.
Yeah.
Carol, let's get your take on all this because obviously this impacts every American.
And to just watch, there's not a single free speech liberal Democrat that seems to give a rip.
You know, all these attacks, we're watching these radicals all over college campuses around the country and literally talking about antifada and death to Israel and death to America and their chants and their encampments and their demands for free speech rights and specific food and dietary demands that they're making.
You know, I find it very interesting because maybe they need it at some time in Iran and maybe they should go to school there and maybe they should learn whether or not they'd be able to protest and have free speech rights there.
Maybe women would learn that if they don't dress a certain way, that the likelihood that they're going to be beaten is very high.
Or what would happen to somebody that was part of the LGBTQ community in Iran or a country that practices or embraces Sharia law, for example.
You must be a big supporter of my communist and terrorist sympathizer exchange program where we get people who want to come and embrace American values and embrace capitalism and freedom in our Constitution can come here and we send those people who sympathize with communists and terrorism over there so they can learn just that.
Frankly, I would make it a one-way program, but that's just me, Sean.
But yes, there is this, you know, almost, you almost feel like you're in a satire movie because you cannot believe the people who are saying these things and not understanding what is happening on the other side, that they are sympathizing with these terrorists, with these regimes, where the people who live under their rule have absolutely no rights.
And the fact that they do have rights here in America or in Israel or anywhere else is thrown completely by the wayside.
And they don't see the irony that that gives them the opportunity to voice this absolute insanity.
But whether it's the media, whether it's the courts, whether it's this administration, there is just this huge double standard that's going on that Americans are very, very frustrated by if they aren't a part of it.
The left, as you said, doesn't seem to care because it never seems to impact them.
They can do whatever it is that they want, and they never face any consequences.
But if you are on the other side, if you are part of whatever that wrong thing happens to be defined as, and they put out misinformation councils to figure this out, but usually they're the ones disseminating the misinformation, you're the one that has to bear the consequences.
And so I'm very proud of Sean Davis and the Federalists and the state of Texas for this lawsuit.
We need more of this action being taken, and hopefully we can start to get some balance because I think there are a lot of people who are dismayed watching President Trump, watching what's unfolding with the censorship and the media of Ushawn and frankly, you know, a bunch of other folks, and just saying that I don't, as an individual, have a chance in this country because of my beliefs I'm going to be treated a different way.
All right, quick break, right back more with Sean Davis.
Carol Roth on the other side.
Then we'll get to your calls, 800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
All right, we continue with Sean Davis.
He's the CEO, co-founder of the Federalists, Carol Roth, who just testified before Congress on behalf of small businesses last week.
Carol, you testified as it relates to small business before Congress, and I really watched the words and read the words closely.
And we played it yesterday, and I'll just summarize them here for you of David Axelrod, who's not a dumb guy.
What a terrible mistake it was for Biden to go out there and talk about the economy and what great shape it's in.
And what are you talking about?
We've turned it around already, and et cetera, et cetera.
And he says, well, the polling data is all wrong.
Biden says that.
And he says we have the strongest economy in the world, et cetera, et cetera.
And he rightly points out that this is not what Americans are experiencing with the economy.
They are experiencing it through the lens of the cost of living.
And if he doesn't win this race, it may not be Donald Trump that beats him.
It may be his own pride that beats him.
And, you know, we do have a very arrogant president.
Now, John King over at Fake News CNN said the same thing.
Biden is insisting the economy is good, and his poll numbers are, frankly, wrong.
But you have African Americans, Hispanics.
They're the hardest hit by Biden's insecurity, and we see where those poll numbers are going demographically.
Yeah, the only thing that is worse, Sean, for the American people than living through this absolute destruction of their purchasing power is being gaslit and told that things are phenomenal.
Somebody holds up a chart and says, oh, this looks great.
And people have a different lived experience.
They cannot afford their food.
They cannot afford their rent or their mortgage.
They certainly can't find a new house.
The personal saving rate is down again for the third time in three months.
We have the GDP that's shrinking.
Carol, purchasing power is down $12,000 since when Donald Trump was president.
That says it all.
It does.
And I bet those are the calculated figures.
I bet that it's even more because people are making substitutions.
If they were trying to live the same kind of life, they wouldn't be able to do it.
And they're having to make different choices.
And they hate that.
We just got today, in fact, Sean, consumer sentiment.
And it's down huge again because people are not seeing a light at the end of the tunnel.
And so to live through this horrible inflation that was brought on by Biden's policies and then be lied to about it, it is just, you know, punching somebody while they're down.
And that 100% will have an impact at the polls this November.
I totally agree with both of you.
We're going to follow that very closely.
And Sean, we're going to follow your lawsuit very closely.
And we support your suit and wish you the best in that.
Those suits are very time-consuming, expensive, and hard to win.
And so far it's going well for you, and I hope it continues.
Thank you, sir.
I appreciate it.
Hey, there's still a lot more ahead on the best of the Sean Hannity Show.
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