Governor Ron DeSantis sits down with Manhattan Institute's Christopher Rufo to discuss the power of conservative thought in reforming our education system. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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| Well, we're an hour or two of uh a very big risk that Sean Annie has taken by turning the show over to his home state governor, and I am that man. | |
| I'm I'm Governor Ron DeSantis, and uh we're happy to be with you here. | |
| You know, I look about fighting the left and beating the left, and and we're gonna talk about how we've done that in Florida on a couple more issues, uh, but I see a lot of stuff that goes on, and it reminds me of this old adage that every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket. | |
| How many of these politicians will send you emails demanding money, and then they'll turn around, they'll complain about the border, and then they'll turn around and fund what Biden is doing. | |
| Or you have this group or that groups telling you just give them money, and all of a sudden they're gonna change the world, and yet you never see any results. | |
| And so I think when we do have people uh in the conservative sphere that are really actually making a difference, uh it's something that we should take note of, and it's something that we should encourage. | |
| And so I think a lot of you uh have heard of some of the things the left's trying to do, both in education and corporate America, things like critical race theory, DEI, which they say is diversity, equity, and inclusion. | |
| I say it stands for discrimination, exclusion, and indoctrination, but it's basically trying to capture all these institutions in our society with this ideological agenda. | |
| And not a lot of people were even saying much about this a few years ago, and very few people were willing to even do anything about it. | |
| Uh I'd say the one guy that's made more of an impact on these issues than than anyone I know is joining us now. | |
| Uh so Christopher Rufo, uh, he's with the Manhattan Institute, and he has done uh tremendous work in this regard. | |
| So, Chris, if you're there, he's also, by the way, a trustee on New College. | |
| Uh we had Richard Corcoran here. | |
| Uh Chris may want to talk a little bit about what we're doing at New College, but I will say this there were some students who basically harassed him when he was on campus. | |
| And I told the president of the university, I said, we can't allow this to happen. | |
| And so they actually initiated expulsion proceedings against those students. | |
| They decided just to voluntarily withdraw, but it shows when you have consequences, things matter. | |
| Uh so Chris, how are you doing? | |
| I'm doing very well, and it's uh great to be with you. | |
| And I think what you said in your opening was absolutely right. | |
| A lot of people on the right traffic and outrage, they traffic uh in big promises, uh, but what we're seeing and we've seen over the last few years in Florida is big talk that ends up in big actions. | |
| And so um all the things that you've done from reforming K-12 schools to passing a universal school choice bill to reforming the state universities, um, are are really solving these problems that conservatives have known about and have complained about for a long time, | |
| and demonstrating a model of effective action and actually going after these institutions, challenging them to a direct fight on an open field, uh, and then showing, I think most importantly, that it's a fight that not only must be fought, but it's a fight that can be won. | |
| And and I think that the results are not only in Florida, but uh, you know, through your really courageous and bold action, we've seen now uh state after state following your lead, things that would have been considered impossible a few years ago are now the law of the land uh throughout kind of red state America. | |
| So can you tell the folks out there what some of the toxicity in terms of this ideal ideology being imposed in these institutions that that you've uncovered over the years and put a spotlight on? | |
| And I think the one thing that happens is when when you uh when you uh uh show a corporation doing a discriminatory training, uh they they just they don't want to talk about it. | |
| When you show things that are going to universities, they try to him and haw, they don't actually lean into this and they try to act like we're objecting to things that we're not really at. | |
| So can you give some examples of some of the things that you've blown the whistle on? | |
| Yeah, uh absolutely. | |
| I mean, you know, first off, it was very fashionable in many Fortune 100 companies to hold trainings that said America was a systemically racist nation, uh, that white people were by the by their own nature uh inherently oppressive, uh, and they were advocating, | |
| you know, out and out discrimination, racial quotas, racially discriminatory programs, even tying bonuses and compensation to managers who discriminated against white and Asian men, for example, is part of their hiring programs. | |
| And so we did the reporting, we exposed this, and the reaction was quite interesting because behind the scenes they push this radical ideology, but when you bring it to light, they try to distance themselves from it as fast as possible. | |
| This to me suggests vulnerability. | |
| It suggests that they're not deeply committed to it. | |
| But it also suggests that us as conservatives, as uh journalists, as political actors, need to do a lot more to raise the pressure and raise the stakes. | |
| And I think the best example of this was really your fight with Disney. | |
| Uh Disney, we know because I uncovered the footage was pushing trans ideology and its kids' programs. | |
| They were doing it secretly. | |
| Um, they were kind of thought that they were the you know hundred-pound, you know, a thousand-pound beasts uh that that couldn't be tangled with, and you said, hey, what actually no, we're gonna stand up for kids, we're gonna stand up for taxpayers, uh, and and you know, decisively won that fight against what had been considered uh in the state of Florida an untouchable political actor. | |
| Um what this shows to me is that the people are willing to reward courageous action that's based on the right principles, um, but it really requires us to have a leadership class that is ready to do the hard work of not just you know being there at the ribbon cutting or you know, | |
| uh signing uh uh you know uh charity checks, which are are good, but actually taking a fight to the institutions that matter, never giving an inch, uh, and always uh tr trying to you know turn the tables and win on behalf of the majority of the people. | |
| And there, and there's the the stakes get a lot higher for the left when you go after their hobby horses. | |
| I mean, I mentioned last hour, Republican gets elected and and maybe does some corporate tax cuts or some other stuff. | |
| The left's not really threatened by that. | |
| Yeah, they may not like that, but but they're not threatened by it. | |
| But when you challenge their control of institutions, when you say, actually, no, corporate America uh trying to impose woke ideology, there's gonna be a fight on that. | |
| We're gonna fight back against you and we're gonna win. | |
| Uh universities, you don't get to indoctrinate, we're gonna fight back and we're gonna win. | |
| They get really upset because I think they viewed it as their entitlement to control these institutions and do it what they want. | |
| So I think that people uh like you have come under huge uh attacks by every major media outlet, of course I have as well. | |
| You gotta be willing to dig in and fight back, and you gotta be willing to take the hits. | |
| But I think what I found, and I think you probably agree in your case, you know, elite media is not gonna like any of this stuff, but when you dig in and you stand up for people, they may not have the same voice, but there's a majority of people out there that are appreciative of you fighting these fights. | |
| Is that is that what you found? | |
| Yeah, that's absolutely true. | |
| And I think that the dynamic is i i it has deepened to the to the point where actually taking the hits uh is a badge of honor, certainly for our people. | |
| Uh conservatives love to see you when you're tangling with the New York Times and the Washington Post and MSNBC and CNN. | |
| Um but it's not really about fighting just for fighting sake. | |
| It's about fighting to achieve results. | |
| And over time you start to change the cultural incentives. | |
| And so one of the things that I've noticed uh in Florida, as other campuses around the country are melting down with pro Hamas protests, uh student encampments, tent encampments on lawns, the occupation of buildings, uh they're not doing that in Florida because over the last years you've been fighting these fights, you've been reforming these institutions, you've been appointing new boards of trustees, and the signal is quite clear. | |
| Um what happens at Harvard and Brown and Columbia and Princeton is not going to happen in the state of Florida, where educational institutions are focused on education first and foremost, and there will be consequences to those actions. | |
| And so I I think that's attractive to most people. | |
| You know, I I looked at the recent polling, and the campus protesters, uh Hamas uh and uh the uh the Palestinian authority, as far as favorability with the American people, were just a notch above ISIS. | |
| I mean, it these are deeply unpopular movements. | |
| Uh and I think also um the whole D E and I. I mean, basically, D E and I is just a way to just engage in anti-white bigotry. | |
| And somehow that's supposed to be okay. | |
| Somehow you're not allowed to say, well, wait a minute, actually, anti-white is bad. | |
| We should treat people with respect across the board. | |
| And Richard Corcoran was on last hour. | |
| He pointed out since you guys at New College abolished D E and I, the applications and students uh from a variety of racial backgrounds is increased because there is a hunger to treat people uh based on merit uh and not try to divvy everybody up by these other characteristics. | |
| Final thing before we go, I had Richard Corcoran on because we did talk about the fights we're doing in higher education, uh particularly against the militant left. | |
| You're on the board of New College. | |
| I gave Richard 30 seconds to talk to people about why why new college is good in the direction that they're going. | |
| So from your perspective, what would you want people to know about the work you guys are doing down there? | |
| Yeah, we are reviving the classical liberal arts tradition at New College of Florida. | |
| Uh it is going to be uh and it's well on the way to being the best uh classical liberal arts university uh in the country. | |
| We're bringing in great new faculty members. | |
| We have a great new administration, we have an incredible uh campus that's on the beach in Sarasota, which is a great town. | |
| And what we can offer is something quite simple. | |
| Conservative parents in in Florida and elsewhere who are concerned about what's happening uh with all of the campus craziness elsewhere. | |
| Uh, you know, you'll be welcome at New College. | |
| We'll challenge uh your your the students with a variety of viewpoints, but we're always gonna keep it within the great tradition of the West. | |
| We have a cultural heritage uh that we should be proud of. | |
| Uh we are going to defend it unapologetically, and we're gonna have the most vigorous debate of any college campus uh in America. | |
| It's a great place to learn. | |
| And by the way, uh the tuition is about $7,000 a year, so uh you don't have to, you know, take out a second mortgage on your house to get a great education. | |
| Yeah, well, we appreciate your service uh to our state uh when you answered the call for that. | |
| And uh congratulations on on the success. | |
| Thanks for what you've done. | |
| Like I said when I introduced you, I mean, there's so much out there that that doesn't amount to much. | |
| It's the same old song and dance, and there's never results. | |
| And you you've delivered results. | |
| I mean, you've made a difference. | |
| I know you got a lot more that you're gonna be doing, uh, but just know what we did in Florida uh would not have happened uh without you uh leading the charge on a lot of these issues. | |
| Uh so you have my appreciation, and I know there's a lot of people throughout the great state of Florida that appreciate uh what you've been able to do. | |
| So I hope you have a good Memorial Day weekend, and we look forward to working with you in the future. | |
| Likewise, thank you, Governor. | |
| Okay, we're gonna be back. | |
| So we're gonna have an announcement about what Florida is doing to continue our fight uh against this type of discrimination, the DEI. | |
| We're gonna be joined by the attorney general of the state of Florida, a friend of mine, Ashley Moody. | |
| She's gonna have an announcement about how we're fighting back uh on your behalf and yet another example of Florida leading the way. | |
| We'll be back in a minute. | |
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| Well, good afternoon. | |
| It's Governor Ron DeSantis filling in for my constituent and happy Florida resident and now Florida Panther fan, Sean Hannity. | |
| We uh talked with Chris Rufo last segment about this DEI, how that's being used in corporate America to discriminate against people based on on their race or ethnicity, and and usually um against people that are white, sometimes people that are Asian. | |
| That's considered respectable form of bigotry in in terms of left-wing thought. | |
| And the state of Florida, we fought back on that. | |
| We passed legislation called the Stop Woke Act a few years ago. | |
| It eliminated CRT and K-12 schools. | |
| Um it did a lot of things uh to get the ideology out of these institutions. | |
| And one of the things the bill said was look, you know, this is actionable if they're doing this in a corporation. | |
| You don't have to sit there and self-flagellate yourself because of your skin color. | |
| You have a right to opt out. | |
| Uh, for some reason, the court said that that was a violation of the the company's First Amendment right, even though they can say whatever they want. | |
| We were just saying you had the right to opt out. | |
| But um, we didn't even think that that was necessary. | |
| We believe that's what the law is anyways. | |
| So we have an announcement here by my next guest is the attorney general of the great state of Florida, Ashley Moody, who's been fighting with us on a lot of these really, really important issues uh as we fight back against the militant left and defend the people of Florida. | |
| So, Attorney General, welcome. | |
| I understand that you have an announcement that you can make about Florida's fight uh to defend what's right. | |
| Yeah, Governor, great to be with you. | |
| I don't want you to get used to everyone loving you over there at Fox. | |
| You have got work to do here still in Florida, and we uh are proud to work alongside you. | |
| We're doing such great things here uh for the people of our state. | |
| And I would suggest we're leading in so many ways, the people of our nation. | |
| Uh so thank you for all you do. | |
| And and Governor, you're exactly right when you said so many times, even good intentions can swing in the opposite direction. | |
| And so many of these DEI policies that have put been pushed in in corporate America that were meant to address and and prevent discrimination are now uh pushing uh policies and programs and initiatives that may in fact be unlawful employment practices, in fact, becoming discriminatory themselves, in fact, further dividing uh racial friction and polarization and society. | |
| And what the court cases have shown is that there is there can be circumstances where these laws and uh need to be applied to these programs. | |
| And so in Florida, we have uh what is called uh a commission on human relations. | |
| It oversees and investigates violations of uh our civil rights act. | |
| And looking at these programs, especially where they're just not just the programs, but maybe they're coupled with hiring practices that could be So we're coming up on a break, but but basically you're saying that uh if you're in Florida and you're being discriminated against by one of these programs, that we have the ability to hold these companies accountable and you're willing to do it as attorney general. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| And and Governor, I want to tell you that we are making our first complaint as authorized by law, Florida Commission on Human Relations against Starbucks. | |
| Okay, we're gonna talk about that on the other side of the break. | |
| Uh we'll we'll be right back. | |
| Welcome back. | |
| Uh, this is Governor Ron DeSantis from Sunny South Florida, filling in uh for our newly minted Florida resident Sean Hannity, and I appreciate uh everyone joining us. | |
| So we had the attorney general of Florida on. | |
| We came up the gray. | |
| She started to make the announcement of uh of an action that that her office has taken regarding Starbucks. | |
| Attorney General, 60 seconds, tell us the news. | |
| Governor, we're we're gonna make sure that in Florida this uh quota for hiring and programs that cause every employee to determine whether they are the problem based on the color of their skin, whether that violates Florida's anti-discrimination laws. | |
| And so the matter will be investigated. | |
| I'm proud to report, and we are referring the matter officially to the Florida Commission on Human Relations for full investigation Of Starbucks and these practices. | |
| Well, thanks for doing that. | |
| I think this this notion that it's okay to discriminate against some people but not others, you shouldn't discriminate. | |
| You should treat people as individuals, judge them uh based on the content of their character, not the color of their skin or their ethnicity or anything like that. | |
| So good work there. | |
| Uh thanks for joining us, and I know we'll be working with you on those in many issues soon. | |
| Uh also talking about, and I'm going to bring in uh another guest who's had a lot of impact on on this issue of education. | |
| We talked some about higher education. | |
| People look at these universities and they've just gone crazy. | |
| Uh we've talked to both Richard Corcret and Chris Rufo about how we've course corrected in Florida. | |
| Universities should should fulfill their classical mission of searching for truth, uh, teaching folks how to how to think, not what to think, and preparing them to be citizens of this republic, but you also have K-12 education. | |
| And you've seen what's happened in other states around the country. | |
| Uh we got into this like major brouhaha against Disney because we had the temerity to say, you know what, in the state of Florida, we're not going to be telling kindergartners that they can change their gender. | |
| We're not going to be telling third graders that they were born in the wrong body. | |
| We're not going to have teachers probing uh their sexuality. | |
| We're not going to have any of that in school. | |
| Now that shouldn't be controversial. | |
| I don't think it really is with most people, but to the left in the media, they want to jam this stuff in. | |
| So we've had all these different fights, but in Florida, K-12 education is not about indoctrination. | |
| Uh it is about the classical mission of education. | |
| And so one of the the guys that's been instrumental in this is the speaker of the Florida House of Representatives, a friend of mine, Paul Renner. | |
| And so, Speaker, welcome. | |
| You've uh been involved in all these fights, whether it's the uh the getting rid of the gender ideology, eliminating critical race theory, the civics promotion of civics, the things we've done to hold school unions accountable. | |
| Uh if someone out there outside of Florida wants to know, you know, what is Florida doing right with respect to education, you know, what would you tell them in 30 seconds? | |
| I mean, I think you go back to your leadership during COVID, Governor, when we went remote and parents looked at what was happening and their jaws dropped. | |
| And so it begins with parental rights. | |
| You know, you alluded to it. | |
| We had a student who literally was a girl, and they said, uh, we're going to change your name to a boy's name, give you boys' clothes, and and do all this and not tell your parents about it. | |
| And so that uh broo ha ha with Disney was really over that, and it was totally misrepresented. | |
| But if you have a program or a procedure that you're going to develop for a child to change their gender at school, you've got to let the parents know about it. | |
| And that was not happening. | |
| And so we fixed that in the state of Florida. | |
| Support rights number one. | |
| You also mentioned, you know, education comes first. | |
| The core basics comes first, not indoctrination. | |
| And so we have, you know, we're number one ranked in the state of Florida, but we still have 40 plus percent that don't read on grade level. | |
| They need to stop with the indoctrination and make sure kids can read on grade level and do math on grade level. | |
| And then finally, educational freedom. | |
| You know, we lead the country in universal choice in all aspects of educational freedom. | |
| And part of the thing was other states had not really done this in part because the big interest group of the teachers' unions, the school unions. | |
| And so we were able to beat the teachers' unions in COVID. | |
| Uh we forced the schools to be open in person. | |
| They sued us and lost. | |
| We beat the teachers' unions on universal school choice. | |
| They opposed it. | |
| Uh we won. | |
| Even raising teacher salaries, they've opposed us on in many respects, uh, because they have nothing to do with it. | |
| And people say, well, why do we need you if if they're delivering pay increases? | |
| But we also did a bill to do the paycheck protection uh for for teacher union dues. | |
| And and that's had the impact of fewer people doing the dues, and then big unions like Miami Dade Teachers Union, which is a hard left organization, they are now on the brink of decertification. | |
| So this has never happened anywhere in the United States where you've actually defeated the school union. | |
| So can you talk about that legislation and how that's had an effect in Florida? | |
| Sure, yeah. | |
| I mean every few years you got to justify your existence and your your value to union members. | |
| And when I heard objections about this, I said, wait a minute, I'm in the Florida House. | |
| I've got to run for office every two years, not every three years, and justify whether I've done a decent enough job to return and represent my constituents. | |
| And so every reason why the union should be able to step up and prove their value to their members, and if they can't, they should go away. | |
| And uh, and obviously, you know, we've seen that they have made moves going back to COVID, but all along to fight our agenda, where they put adults ahead of kids. | |
| Whatever we do, we should do it for good outcomes for children in school, not what's good for the adults or the institutions. | |
| Yet time and time again, that's where they come down. | |
| And I think you've seen people vote with their pocketbooks. | |
| We've now said no automatic deduction of union dues. | |
| If someone wants to join, they can write the check. | |
| But many people are choosing not to do that, and that's why a place like Miami Dade, the largest uh urban school district to ever have a teacher union face decertification in the United States. | |
| Uh that is why things like that are happening, because we've empowered people with choice. | |
| We've made sure that they can vote with their pocketbooks, and if these unions are pursuing a political agenda, uh then these folks have an ability to fight back. | |
| And so I think that's been very successful. | |
| Another thing that we've done that I want you to talk about is I believe Florida is the only state in this country that has uh enacted uh educational standards that require instruction for students about the evils of communism. | |
| And this is something because we have a lot of people, particularly in southern Florida, who escaped from communist Cuba. | |
| Uh we've worked with that community and others to make sure that people understand the truth, and the media hated this. | |
| But you know, if they go to another state for for college, they're going to be taught communism is good, so why don't we give them the truth about the hundred million people death count that we had in the 20th century alone from communist regimes? | |
| Yeah, and unfortunately, here in Florida, we've got people who have ha experienced that the hard way, who've suffered under communism directly, who can tell those stories. | |
| You know, it starts with a big lie of utopia, and we all want things to be perfect and free. | |
| And what happens though, everywhere it's been tried is it's leads to poverty, it leads to prison, and it leads to death. | |
| And you've seen that in Cuba, you've seen it in Venezuela. | |
| We have both Cubans, Venezuelans, and others throughout Latin America and across the world that live here in Florida. | |
| It's fine to say, look, we need academic freedom, let's teach Marx, but let's also teach Adam Smith. | |
| But let's also look at how those ideas have worked and put into practice. | |
| And again, one leads to poverty in the case of the free market and economic freedom has brought more people out of poverty than any other system in the world. | |
| And that is especially true here in the United States. | |
| And so that was a great bill to just focus on. | |
| Look, how are these ideas working in real practice? | |
| You know, it's one thing to talk about it in the laboratory of a university where they never have to brush up against reality, but let's talk about how it really works in the real world. | |
| Communism fails everywhere it's tried. | |
| Yeah, and I think that that's just something that that's all states should be doing what we're doing. | |
| They should follow Florida's lead on that. | |
| The other thing that we've done, and you've worked really hard with us over the years, is put an emphasis on American civics and teaching kids about the founding of this country, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, all these important things that have really become uh a lost art. | |
| Uh when you go to universities, a lot of them don't want to talk about the founding fathers, the founding of the country. | |
| So we've not only done the the speech and debate, civic standards where the high schoolers are having to do robust civics, but we created this teacher training program where teachers go through, it's a 50-hour course they can take online, they get a $3,000 bonus, but this is 50 hours about the founding of our country from people from Hillsdale College, Heritage Foundation, all these places that really understand this. | |
| And I think we've really led in civics education uh as well or better than any other state. | |
| Would you agree with that? | |
| That's absolutely true. | |
| And you know, you can't have a country, I think Reagan said, you know, you're only a generation away from the kind of ignorance where people won't have any frame of reference. | |
| They won't understand how valuable our checks and balances are, how valuable the rule of law is, our constitution. | |
| We are so blessed to have a system we have in understanding it and understanding our value is not being taught too often, both K-12 and at the university level. | |
| In fact, quite the opposite. | |
| They're in this Marxist frame of oppressor versus oppressed and systemic, you know, racism, systemic this, systemic that, that is a complete, you know, bastardization of reality. | |
| And this country's history, just look just look at the results. | |
| Look at how many people want to come here, doing everything they can to get here in the prosperity we've had. | |
| The results are in the footing. | |
| And so having that uh that background and understanding the value of our country's history is first and foremost to a well-educated human being. | |
| No, I agree. | |
| And we're also in higher ed. | |
| We have programs like at the University of Florida, the Hamilton Center, which I know you were involved with, which is you know going to be the premier institute for Western civilization education in the country. | |
| If it's not already, it will be within the next couple of years, partially because of the reforms that we did to allow that to happen. | |
| So we're taking this very seriously. | |
| The way I view it is you're gonna have kids go through our school system, and a lot of them don't need to go to college. | |
| You get trade schools. | |
| There's so many things where people can do well, and we want all those options available. | |
| But regardless of what option you choose, some will go into the trade, some will go into business, some will go into medicine, what have you. | |
| Everyone is going to be called upon to exercise the duty of being an American citizen, and it's our responsibility to ensure we're not graduating a bunch of blank slates that we're providing the strong foundation that I think our founding fathers envisioned uh when they found this country. | |
| So uh I think you can go down in Florida history as the speaker that had more legislative uh accomplishments than anybody. | |
| We did a lot my first four years, but these last last year and a half has really been monumental. | |
| So my hats off to you, Speaker. | |
| Thanks for all that you've done, and uh we look forward uh to working with you throughout the balance of the year. | |
| Uh we will be back uh on the other side of the break uh and we'll uh have some comments about some of the things going on in Washington, D.C. and that swamp uh that is up there. | |
| This is Governor Ron DeSantis, and I'll be back in a minute. | |
| We'll be right back. | |
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| Well, good afternoon. | |
| This is Governor Ron DeSantis filling in for Sean Hannity, our uh newly minted Florida resident. | |
| And we've talked about uh the fights in Florida where we've beaten the left on a number of different things. | |
| I mean, we beat Soros on crime by uh having tough on crime policies, removing Soros-backed district attorneys, uh, we beat um on K-12, the school unions by doing school choice, keeping schools open during COVID, and now having uh no automatic union dues deductions. | |
| Uh, we've taken on corporate DEI, we've taken on corporate ESG, and of course, we've returned our universities to their classical mission. | |
| Those are all important fights, and there's a lot of Republicans around the country aren't even attempting those fights, much less winning those fights. | |
| Uh, but if you look at where the left may have the strongest Stranglehold uh of anywhere. | |
| Uh, it's in this federal bureaucracy and this administrative state. | |
| And it's almost to the point where someone can get elected president and the bureaucracy just continues doing whatever the hell it wants to do. | |
| I think that's the truth with respect to Donald Trump's election in 2016. | |
| Uh that put him in the White House. | |
| He was able to appoint people to lead the cabinet agencies, but you had an entrenched bureaucratic class that didn't accept the outcome of that election and work not only to frustrate Trump's policies, uh, but to actually kneecap his presidency. | |
| That is not the constitution that the founding fathers created. | |
| It's not the constitution that officeholders like me uh pledge fidelity to when we take our oath of office, but that is how this federal government is acting, in fact. | |
| And the question is, is how did it get this way? | |
| And I think there's a couple of reasons. | |
| I mean, I think one, presidents by and large, uh, have not utilized the full range of their Article II power to discipline the bureaucracy to bring accountability to the bureaucracy. | |
| Oh, we've done that in Florida by removing these officials. | |
| It makes a difference. | |
| But by far the biggest reason we are here is because Congress has funded this bureaucracy without asking questions for decades. | |
| Uh, if Biden is doing things illegally, like bringing in illegal aliens and granting them, quote, parole, and dropping them in the United States. | |
| The way you stop that is to not give him funding to do it. | |
| You got to use the power of the purse. | |
| That's what the founding fathers understood. | |
| So we're on the other side of the break and have a couple U.S. Congressmen who get this. | |
| Not enough of their colleagues do. | |
| But if Congress does not use the purse strings to discipline this bureaucracy, we are going to continue to have all the problems that we've been seeing for many, many years. | |
| We'll see you on the other side of the break with Congressman Chip Roy and Thomas Massey. | |
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