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May 23, 2024 - Sean Hannity Show
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Governor DeSantis and Rep. Roy and Massie - May 22nd, Hour 3
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Well, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
This is hour three of a great experiment.
And Sean Hannity has decided to do a great risk to his career and show by turning the reins over to his home state governor, which is me, Governor Ron DeSantis.
And I'm proud that Sean is a Florida resident after many years of haggling and telling him he needed to do it.
And I'm happy to be with you here today.
So I was down during spring training in March.
I was down in Fort Myers for the Red Sox versus the Orioles.
And I've got former, I was a college baseball player, got former college teammates who were involved in Major League Baseball in the front office.
So I was down there seeing them, going to the game.
Before I went to the game, we stopped and had a bite to eat.
And I'm leaving the restaurant.
There's all these people around the bar, and I see they all have Red Sox stuff.
And I hear, you know, in the Boston accent, governor, governor.
And I'm looking and I'm like, oh my gosh, I don't know what I'm in for.
And they were like, send more illegals to Matha's Vineyard.
Send more to Matha's Vineyard.
And I was thinking to myself, you know, here I am as the governor of Florida.
We have this massive problem, you know, with illegals pouring into this country because of what Biden's done.
And I'm one of the few Republicans that's done anything about it.
And we've done the boats to stop the boats coming in on our coast.
And we just did a major legislation in the past banning sanctuary cities, all these other things.
Texas has built walls.
There's been other things.
But really, we need the folks in Congress to be fighting on our behalf by using the power of the purse to defund Biden's unconstitutional immigration program.
And unfortunately, even though Republicans control the House of Representatives, there are not enough Republicans who are willing to do what James Madison and our founders said you needed to do, which is use the purse strings and take that money away from the executive so that the executive stops abusing the Constitution in his office.
Well, I'm happy to say I have two congressmen that are here joining us who actually get it, who've been fighting the fight and have been leaning in on all these battles on their constituents' behalf, on your behalf.
And so we're joined by from Texas, Congressman Chip Roy.
And fresh off another landslide victory, we have the electoral druggernaut himself, Congressman Thomas Massey from Kentucky.
So welcome, gentlemen.
And well, Thomas, since you won yet another big election, I'll give it to you first.
You got a lot of folks out here that are looking at this saying, wait a minute, Biden's doing all this.
Why are they giving him so much money if Republicans control the House?
Great, great question, Governor.
There are seven things that Biden can do.
So let's just say, first of all, when he says he can't do anything without us, he could do seven different things without us.
End catch and release, reinstate, remain in Mexico, rein in taxpayer-funded benefits.
It's a big list of that.
But Congress could stop him right now using the power of the purse.
I remember having breakfast with Justice Scalia when Boehner was our speaker and Obama was in the White House.
And the question at breakfast was, what are you going to do, Scalia, to rein in the constitutional balance of government or to reestablish it?
And Scalia said, you're the most powerful branch.
Why are you asking me in the judiciary branch to referee this?
And one of our colleagues said, wait, impeachment's too hard to pull off, you know, because Scalia said it's in the Constitution, everything you need.
And Scalia said, I'm not talking about impeachment.
You guys have the power of the purse.
And you're complaining about everything Obama's doing, but you're funding it.
And here we find ourselves in the same, very similar situation.
Republicans control the House.
We have the power of the purse.
There's a Democrat in the White House.
And we're complaining about the things he's doing, but we are funding these things.
Yeah, I mean, there was the news about in 2023, he would, and I still think he's doing this, but we got the data.
2023, he's granting parole to people in other countries illegally doing this and then flying them into the country.
And he wouldn't be able to do that if he didn't have funding.
So, Chip Roy, I know you've been fighting this fight.
It seems like in the last few months, the wheels have kind of come off in terms of any type of spending restraint or any type of constitutional accountability.
And it seems like you guys, and I know you were fighting the opposite side of this, but it seems like you guys have given up your leverage between now and the election.
Governor, great to be on.
Congratulations, Thomas, on the great win.
The only thing riskier for Sean's reputation of having you host governors is inviting Thomas and I on.
That's going to, you know.
Amen to that.
But look, Thomas is right.
And obviously, I feel this very personally as a representative from Texas, as you know, we talked about together many times.
But just consider some facts that, you know, Bill Melujin, who obviously reports on this great for Fox, you know, last night reported 2 a.m.
We had people from Iran, from Pakistan, from numerous state sponsors of terror that were stopped in California just last night with no Mexican nationals.
This is the reality of what's happening at our southern border.
We had a witness who came in and testified from Kinney County, Texas, which is kind of west of San Antonio, close to the along the border.
And they testified that in 2021, they had about 150 criminal prosecutions.
Last year, they had 6,700.
The reason I bring this up, this is ongoing.
We still have like 5,000-ish a day.
We still have what you alluded to, Governor, which a lot of the listeners, Sean's audience is very smart and knows this information.
But we've got people being paroled into the United States with just blatant disregard for the law, and they can end run the visuals of having mountains of people down at the river all amassed.
And so they're able to just fly them in, like you said, often.
And frankly, a lot of those are being flowing to Florida and Texas and all over the country.
And doing that hides it from the American people.
So to the question.
And in fact, it's an illegitimate use of power, but they are given documents.
They are just put on commercial flights.
So if someone flies into Austin, Texas, or Miami, Florida, or New York City, they have documents.
They go through customs.
And you don't know 300 people who is part of this program or not.
It's just done and they're not keeping track of it.
And we already know some of the people Biden has done this for are facing criminal charges for things like sexually assaulting minors.
So this is an absolute travesty that this is allowed to go on.
The individual who was released into the United States that ultimately killed Lake and Riley, that was the person that was released under parole.
So to the point that what you asked, yes, we've given up all our leverage by not using the power of the purse when we passed a massive omnibus spending bill that busted the caps.
We said we wouldn't fund Ukraine without making sure our border was secure first.
Those were all things that we just did.
And we did it with majority Democrat votes.
It was a mistake.
Thomas and I have been very vocal about this.
You know, I hope we can get back on track and do the right thing between now and November.
We've got to convince Americans that we'll do what we said we would do.
But frankly, we're allowing the swamp to do swamp things.
The good news is many of us are exposing it in ways that have never been exposed before.
No, I think it's so we in Florida, for example, we've been suing Biden for years over this stuff.
We're suing them over catch and release.
And we've actually won some victories, but it gets tied up.
We're suing them on the illegal parole program.
We're doing that.
We're taking action in Ordinance, for example.
We're saying if you bring in illegals to Florida, you're going to face consequences.
Court just enjoined that, believe it or not.
And so we're fighting all these.
But it just seems to me that our founders would look at that and they'd say, okay, states can do this.
But reality is, if he does not have the money to do it, then he can't do it.
I think you guys have been, you two have been very strong on this.
So what does it look like?
You have massive amounts of debt, inflationary spending.
It seems to me that the border issue, Chip, I think you're right.
It's raging worse than ever.
It seems like the media is really working to downplay it.
I don't know that it's the same in the public consciousness the way it was.
I mean, when we did the Martha's Vineyard, that raised it.
Something like Lake and Riley, those tragic situations raises the visibility.
Seems like the media is going to really work throughout the balance of this election cycle to try to ignore what's happening at the border in order to help Joe Biden.
Yeah, and you're going to have Republicans who are going to make it sound more complicated than it is.
They're going to say, we can't do that.
But, Governor, you were in Congress and you remember the appropriations process, and you can stop any of these things with one sentence in a bill.
You just say none of the money hereby appropriated can be used to fund, and then you put whatever you want to stop in the blank.
None of the money can be used to fund the catch and release policy.
None of the money can be used for this expanded parole authority.
None of the money can be used for the plane flights.
It's that simple.
And they're going to try and make it sound complicated.
We've got another bite at the apple.
Unfortunately, it's not until September when the funding comes due.
People say, how are you going to get this past the Senate?
The Senate always passes a funding bill.
Just put these sentences in there.
You know, I hear, oh, you guys have a narrow majority.
And trust me, I was working in Florida.
You know, we added four Republicans to your delegation just from Florida.
You wouldn't even have the majority now if it wasn't for that.
So I understand it's important to have the majority.
They're like, oh, the majority is narrow.
The Democrats, they had 50 senators Biden's first two years.
He got almost everything he wanted through.
They have 51 senators now.
You don't ever hear them complain about narrow majority.
They just do what they want to do.
And I guess, Chip, it goes down to if you guys were to send a funding bill like Thomas alluded to, defunding the unconstitutional behavior, I guess the fear of Republican leadership is the Democrats and the Senate would balk at it.
It could lead to a lapse in appropriations and that somehow that'd be a problem.
But I think you guys win that fight in terms of the border to say that Biden's not willing to fund all the other things that the American people would want, like military, because he's insisting on an open border.
You guys had the upper hand in terms of the public debate on that, and you didn't want to use it.
Yeah, Governor, you're right.
I think Thomas would agree with this.
I think the president, you just had a key phrase, right?
You know, we could actually win that fight, you said.
But here's the key.
You got to want to pick the fight.
You got to believe in what you're trying to accomplish.
And I think we're growing the number of Republicans who actually believe in wanting to accomplish these things and are willing to risk their precious, to quote Lord of the Rings, their precious election certificate, if they, you know, to actually try to accomplish something.
If you can't fight on this, then what are you going to fight on?
This is an existential issue for you're either a country or you're not.
You can't allow all these hostile nations to send people here.
And so I wish more folks would follow your lead.
Well, we're going to hold you over till the next break.
I want you guys, I know you're working on a bunch of other stuff.
So I'm going to give you each 30 seconds to just talk about different initiatives.
I mean, I know Chip defunding the UN.
Thomas is working on a lot of stuff.
So we'll have you back.
And I will say this, you know, I know Chip is from Texas and Chip's a golfer.
If that would have happened at the PGA championship with Scotty Scheffler, if something like that happened in Florida, we would have ended that controversy in 30 minutes.
I mean, I think it was just ridiculous.
And so we would have rolled with that and taken care of business.
So we'll be back on the other end of the break and we'll hear from our congressman.
Thanks.
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Well, we're back on the Sean Hannity Show.
This is Governor Ronji Sandis.
I'm here with Congressman Thomas Massey from Kentucky and Congressman Chip Roy from Texas, both of whom are very active.
They're both very strong constitutionalists.
They understand what the country's all about, and they're fighting to make sure that we restore what's great about our country.
They also have a lot of good ideas and a lot of initiatives that they want to push.
I want to give each of you 60 seconds to talk about some of the things you're working on.
I know, Chip, I've heard you talk about defunding the United Nations and a bunch of other stuff.
I know Thomas has a lot of stuff.
So Chip, I'll start with you.
What do you got in the hopper?
If you were speaker, what would you be bringing to the floor?
Well, thanks, Governor.
And Thomas and I probably co-sponsor almost all of these bills with each other.
I've got to defund the UN.
He's been very big on that.
We do that and talk about it together.
Mike Lee has that in the Senate.
I've got a bill to defund the World Health Organization.
I've had that for a long time.
They're about to implement their crazy radical stuff that interferes with our sovereignty.
And we ought to be doing more about that.
I think we ought to lead on that in the House.
We also have a legislation that I do hope we'll move, the SAVE Act, which will require proof of citizenship documentation if you vote in federal elections.
I think we've got to do that.
There's too many states, including and then also the nation's capital that are trying to end run the law, the current law, which requires you to be a citizen, but there's no ability to enforce it.
So we're working on that.
We've got other good bills that I think are critically important.
And, you know, Alec Thomas has got some great bills.
I'll let him talk about that I think deal with the extent to which you've got this massive corporate cronyism taking over ability to have farmers and get food to the table that I'm strongly supportive of, but I'll let him talk more about that.
There's a lot of things we could do to break down this bureaucracy up here and fight to get good policies if we're willing to do it.
Yeah, no.
Well, look, in Florida, you don't have to worry about illegals voting here because we prosecute that and we've done that.
We didn't do it before I was governor.
Now we do it and it's made a huge, huge impact.
All right, Congressman Massey, over to you.
What do you got on the agenda?
Yeah, I'm ticking off the corporations up here because I want to empower small farmers.
I just reintroduced a bill that you were a co-sponsor of when you were in Congress to get the FDA out of regulating and arresting farmers for interstate commerce for moving raw milk across state lines.
It seems like a simple thing.
The federal government shouldn't be involved in food decisions and things like that.
So it's the Raw Milk Interstate Freedom Act.
Another one that I want to mention, because I heard you advertise gold and silver during the break, I just introduced a bill.
This hasn't been introduced in 10 years to end the Federal Reserve.
Devalued the dollar in the last four years, 25%.
And they monetized the debt.
They robbed seniors.
You got a lot of those in Florida of their savings by running up inflation.
So I think.
All right, we're coming up on a break, but I know a lot of people will be interested in hearing about all those issues.
More from you guys.
Thank you, Chiproy, Thomas Massey, for fighting the good fight.
And we'll be right back with Surgeon General Joseph Latipo from this great state of Florida.
Well, welcome back.
This is the third hour of the Sean Hannity Show.
I am filling in for one of my newly mined constituents.
I'm Governor Ron DeSantis from Florida.
And leadership part of that when you're fighting the left is to just look, you can tell what they're up to if you really watch.
And there's certain groups and organizations that I think will tip their hand.
Groups like the World Economic Forum, these guys fly into Davos, and they have a lot of different plans to be able to control your behavior.
You look at the World Health Organization.
There's a treaty that's being proposed.
They call it a pandemic treaty.
It's really a lockdown treaty.
It would take American sovereignty and transfer it to a bunch of unelected bureaucrats at the World Health Organization.
Now, in Florida, we've looked at things like that and passed legislation to block that from ever being implemented in Florida.
We block the pandemic, the lockdown, WHO lockdown treaty, signed legislation saying we do not recognize that in the state of Florida, no matter what Joe Biden does.
We've also taken action against things like ESG and all the ideological joyrides that a lot of these elites want to go on.
The state of Florida is not some chew toy for your ideological agenda.
So we're going to lean in on this and we're going to make sure that we're doing it.
And this whole idea of the lockdown treaty brings up all the different things that have been done over the last few years with respect to medical.
And of course, during COVID, this was so many different things, but we see it even to the present.
And every single thing we did in Florida, saying schools had to be open, saying we're not going to force you to wear a mask, saying that they can't force you to take a MNRA shot, saying that you should talking about the risk of the MNRA shot.
Everything we would do, there'd be a massive spasm by the media.
A lot of the entrenched bureaucratic class would go crazy.
And then six, nine months, a year later, it would come out that Florida was right.
Nobody says that we were wrong to have schools open today.
They all said that at the time.
Nobody says it now.
When we were saying you shouldn't be forced to take an MNRA shot, we were roundly condemned in Florida.
We passed legislation blocking the mandates from both businesses and government.
And now you're in a situation where only the most liberal universities are indulging in the nonsense that you would do.
And so there weren't a lot of people in the medical profession who were willing to stand up and speak the truth during the dark days of COVID and even into the present.
But one guy who's been willing to do that is the Surgeon General of the state of Florida, Dr. Joseph Latipo.
Now, Joe came to Florida from UCLA.
He had a great career, tenured, research, all this stuff, MD, PhD from Harvard.
And he came into Florida during COVID.
And I told him, I said, you're going to be the only Surgeon General that's going to be willing to take these tough stands.
You better have thick skin and you better buckle up because they're going to come after you.
And they have come after him.
But you know what?
He's been proven right on all these different things.
And so, Dr. Latipo, welcome to the Sean Hannity program.
Oh, thanks, Governor.
Thank you.
This is cool.
You got to do this more often.
Well, you, I remember being at a school with you a few years ago, and we were saying kids needed to be in school.
If one kid tests positive, you can't send healthy kids home for two weeks.
We said kids should not be wearing masks in school, all these different things.
And I think you were attacked on every single one of them.
Of course, I was attacked, but you were right on those things.
And then more recently, you were really the only major person in a position of authority that has sounded the alarm on some of the things with these COVID jabs.
So can you go into kind of what the state of that is?
Because I kind of feel like the media is now more interested in acknowledging some of the risks associated in a way that they weren't a year or two years ago when you were raising questions.
Yeah, oh, thanks, Governor.
I mean, I want to say I so appreciate you offering me the position because I'd still be out in L.A. right now dealing with all the craziness there and just turning my head if you hadn't offered me the opportunity to be the Surgeon General of Florida.
You'd be wearing a mask going to work every day at UCLA, probably.
I'm sure a lot of your former colleagues are doing that.
Can you imagine?
Well, you know, these mRNA COVID-19 vaccine shots, you're right.
They're so unpopular.
I mean, only the most either liberal or older people who have kind of, they're on their fifth booster or something, and they think they just need to keep getting them are getting them at this point.
And, you know, and you're right.
Now you hear Chris Cuomo talking about some risks, and it sounds like he may have had a bad reaction that he attributes to the COVID-19 vaccine.
Dr. Ashish Ja, one of my former professors, actually, when I was a grad student at Harvard, he's talking about it on TV about how, well, we should be doing more for people who have been injured.
And, you know, these little admissions are, they're obviously totally dishonest, right?
Where were these people when different people were complaining about not feeling they were being treated well when they were forced to take them?
People were complaining about adverse reactions that were serious.
And they were, you know, they were gaslit.
They were told that, you know, they're safe and effective.
That's all you heard.
And that's not been the case.
They're actually not safe.
They're completely not safe.
That's part of the reason they're so unpopular.
And in Florida, we've, based on the data, we don't think they're appropriate for anyone because the benefits just do not outweigh the risk for any populations at this point.
And are you, we're probably the only state where the Surgeon General has been willing to say that they shouldn't be taken.
I know some of the European countries are aligned with you, but probably not in the United States, right?
Yeah, it's just, I mean, it's really sad because it's not like it's really, it's not secret.
I mean, everyone knows that they're almost no one is actually a big fan of them.
And that actually goes, believe it or not, the surveys from Ravmusen, I think, show that both people who are liberal and conservative, Democratic and Republican, believe that they've injured people.
Considerable proportions of people even think that they know people who have died because of them.
And there's no doubt that that's the case.
That's absolutely the case that these mRNA COVID-19 vaccines have killed people.
So it's not, this is not, it's not secret data.
It's just an open secret.
But unfortunately, other medical leaders, I mean, to my, it's very disheartening, but unfortunately, they're just, people are just afraid to speak up.
Is that because of the power of the pharmaceutical industry?
I mean, is that part of it?
Some of it may be ideological.
Because during COVID, one of the frustrating things were Florida would have kids in school.
We'd go two weeks, four weeks, six weeks.
The world didn't end.
Life went on.
And I figured, well, every other state's going to have to follow suit.
And yet you had people six, nine months a year in chill trying to say schools needed to be closed against all evidence.
And so how would you assess the role of both the power of big pharma, but also the role of ideology that has really gotten into the medical profession?
Big pharma is huge.
They're not only in the medical profession, but they're in medical education.
And it's a big problem.
And, you know, we wouldn't, we don't need to go into all of the details, but people should understand that unfortunately, you know, when you talk about these common problems, like put a COVID aside, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, obesity, everyone, you know, the education pushes people to think meds first, but we shouldn't be doing that.
That's the effect of pharma.
Obviously, the thing to do is to think lifestyle changes first.
But pharma has such a powerful effect, and they have such a powerful influence on education, in the media.
And in addition, people are just afraid to speak up because they know that they're going to get unfriendly articles written about them in the media.
They'll be called names.
They'll be labeled anti-science or anti-vax or whatever the, you know, whatever the label is in fad at the time.
But you can't not do the right thing because people are going to call you names.
You need to do the right thing.
And, you know, Florida is so lucky.
I mean, so lucky.
The world is lucky that they have you who was willing to do the right thing and is willing to do the right thing despite, I mean, you were getting hampered.
I remember being in California and listening to the news.
And I mean, they were just, they were coming for you, hammered with every step.
But everything you did was absolutely the right thing to do.
And people just, you know, I wish I want more people.
I wish more people were willing to do that.
So I mentioned at the top of this block the WHO lockdown treaty.
And, you know, we passed legislation in Florida preventing that implementation in our state.
But on what possible planet would it be a good idea for the United States of America to give up some of its sovereignty to the unelected bureaucrats at the WHO who were instrumental in pushing the failed lockdowns?
It's completely nuts.
And it's also sad because it's very un-American and anti-American.
I mean, these the WHO, you know, I've looked at drafts of these trees and they want this power to clear a pandemic, you know, to, you know, to and they use language that makes it sound as if it's not ominous or not threatening to sovereignty, but it absolutely is.
And I don't know how you can love people and love your country, whatever country you're in, and want to be a part of that.
I mean, world government isn't the purpose of the world.
The purpose of the world is for human beings to make the greatest impact they can while they're on the planet.
And you can't do that when people are being forced to defer to some world government.
And this world government fantasy of people who don't believe in human sovereignty and don't believe in human independence and human autonomy is just a real, it's a real problem.
And that's where this WHO nonsense comes from.
Yeah, I remember when you first came on board, we did a press conference and you were talking about what's important in public health are things like exercise, nutrition, freedom, ability to pursue dreams.
And the media was like looking like cross-eyed because I think their view was public health is all about jamming the MNRA vacc down people, you know, in the arms or whatnot.
And that was not something that you thought it was appropriate.
And so you've, you know, they've come after you.
And I always tell people, I know Joe Latipo is doing a good job when he's being attacked by MSNBC and CNN and the likes.
If they're going after him, I know he's doing the right thing.
So I appreciate your service to the state of Florida.
I kind of get a kick when we're out on the road.
You know, you get the folks coming up to you, thanking you, and you've made a difference for our state.
And so I know we've got more work ahead.
We do have this, the COVID grand jury that's meeting and will likely come out with some reports very soon.
And I know you and I will be involved in that.
So thanks for what you've done for the state of Florida.
And we will be back on the other side of this break to wrap things up.
So 2024, a big election coming up, it also will be marked the year where Sean Hannity decided to finally pull the trigger and move to the great state of Florida.
It's been an honor to fill in for him as the governor of the state of Florida.
I want to thank everyone joining.
But look, why would you not want to make the move that Sean did?
Florida, our budget, we have millions of more people than New York now, and our budget is half the size of New York's budget.
Yet our schools are better, our roads are better, we have better services.
Our total state debt per capita is the lowest in the country.
Your share in Florida is about $660 per Floridian.
Your share of the federal debt's over $100,000 per American.
We're ranked number one in economy, number one in education, number one in education freedom, number one in parental rights.
We have a 50-year low in the crime rate, and of course, have removed two Soros-backed prosecutors from office.
We're ranked number one in tourism, number one in new business formations, and number one in higher education.
We have fought the fight and we have won victory after victory for the people of the state of Florida.
And the result is we've never done better.
It just shows you this stuff can be done.
I know there's pessimism around the country.
You see some of these other states.
But if you stand up and you stand for what's right and you fight for people, you know, the media is not going to like it.
The left's going to have a spasm.
But folks that are out there working hard, trying to raise their families, they're going to have your back.
They're going to get your back.
And it's a great example of the state of Florida of what we've done.
I mean, I came in a razor-thin state, 50-50 state.
Every election was 1%.
I took more incoming, especially during COVID than any governor in the country, constantly taking the arrows.
And yet, when it came time to stand for re-election, we won by the biggest victory that any Republican has ever won in the history of the state of Florida: 20-point victory, a million and a half votes.
And the state's only gotten more red since November of 2022.
So it can be done.
Have faith.
We're going to turn this country around.
Thank you all for joining us.
And I hope you all have a wonderful Memorial Day weekend.
God bless.
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