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	I guess the big story as it relates to the law fair, the unequal justice under the law that we live through, the weaponized Department of Justice under Joe Biden and politicized Department of Justice under Joe Biden just continues.
	I mean, it was nothing but a outright circus in the court today with Stormy Daniels and her testimony.
	Anyway, Greg Jarrett is with us, Fox News legal analyst, best selling author.
	What do you think the odds are that the DA's office in New York City probably has a ton of NDA agreements that they've signed over the years?
	Oh, I'm sure they have.
	Look, uh law firms, uh corporations, uh Congress, Congress, you'll recall, put together a an enormous fund of money to pay off people in exchange for non-disclosure agreements, and they hid it for years and years.
	Um you know, the indictment accuses Trump of falsifying business records.
	Forget that there was nothing false about them.
	These were legal payments in exchange for a legal document, a non-disclosure agreement, negotiated by two lawyers, booked as legal expenses.
	Um, that's what they were.
	So the primary charges in the indictment are are unprovable, I think.
	How does Stormy Daniels fit in?
	Well, she doesn't.
	She was never privy to the internal accounting of the payments she received from Michael Cohen.
	She adds nothing to this case except the smear Trump with you know humiliating stories about her fleeting encounter with him, which by the way, i is questionable.
	You know, Trump by the way, we we have her on the record saying in 2000, I think, six, two thousand and eight, she goes through all the years, two thousand twelve, two thousand sixteen, and then in writing twenty eighteen, January of twenty eighteen, saying it never happened.
	I never received any hush money.
	Uh the money that she got, she said was not, quote, hush money, which by the way, would not even be illegal if it was.
	That's right.
	You know, she as you point out, in writing in 2018, she reverses course and recants her repudiation that no affair ever happened.
	You know, uh, I'm sure that will be brought up uh and explored on cross-examination.
	And, you know, Daniels has multiple motives to lie, advancing her career, trying to justify the cash she pocketed in what looks very much like a blackmail scheme, in which Trump is the victim.
	Uh, and she lost her quixotic defamation lawsuit against Trump, and the courts ordered her to pay six hundred thousand dollars to Trump in legal fees, a sum that she still refuses to pay.
	She tweeted at one point in time, I will go to jail before I pay a penny.
	Well, in my judgment, that's a pretty good idea.
	All right.
	So we have a lot lots of basically unpack here.
	You're an attorney, correct, Greg.
	You're you're very good attorney.
	Can you please tell me what the second charge is against Donald Trump?
	Do you know what that is about?
	I know we have a bookkeeping error that would have been a misdemeanor whose statute of limitations have passed.
	What is he being charged with?
	Can you tell me?
	Well, uh, drawing from my favorite line in Shakespeare and Love, it's a mystery.
	Nobody really knows.
	Now we heard during opening statements from the prosecution.
	Fraud, conspiracy.
	Well, take a look at the indictment.
	That fraud and conspiracy are nowhere in the indictment.
	They have alleged uh, you know, indirectly that he violated uh campaign finance laws.
	But wait a minute.
	The federal government has exclusive authority over campaign finance violations.
	The FEC handles it civilly.
	The Department of Justice handles it criminally.
	Uh Bragg has, without authority, commandeered a uh federal uh law and or statute over which he has no jurisdiction.
	Any knowledgeable and competent and fair judge would have tossed the case out on that basis alone.
	But instead, you know, Trump's stuck with Juan Marchon, um, who is allowing all kinds of irrelevant information, and it's prejudicial.
	If you just look at the rules of court, criminal procedure in New York, uh 4.06, exclusion of relevant evidence.
	It must be excluded if its probative value is outweighed by the danger that its admission would create undue prejudice to the defendant.
	Well, that's exactly what's happening.
	So much of this, even Stormy Daniels' testimony, which is immaterial because the payments have already been introduced through other witnesses, the access Hollywood tape, all of that is highly prejudicial, and frankly, it's immaterial and irrelevant.
	I think the words immaterial and irrelevant really hit home here.
	Uh, but let's go back it and start with the opening arguments.
	You're right.
	They talked about a conspiracy.
	Again, things that Donald Trump hasn't even been charged with.
	All we really know is the allegation about is about a bookkeeping error.
	Was this a somehow a an in-kind campaign donation, which would be a misdemeanor under New York state law, uh, whose statute of limitations have long since passed, uh, and then they reach into the federal criminal code and and pull out some convoluted, unprecedented legal theory that had never been tried before.
	And then you've got a former fundraiser, the third highest ranking official at the Justice Department, you know, sent over, leaving his prestigious position there to run the case for Alvin Bragg, uh, which I think in and of itself is prejudicial.
	And I would add, of course, then we have the issue of a recusal, a judge that donated to Biden, a judge's family, according to reports, uh, may benefit financially from this case based on the work of the the judge's daughter.
	Uh then we have the whole issue uh of the gag order, uh, which doesn't exist, for example, for the prosecution's chief witness, Michael Cohn, who's giving commentary on the case, apparently on TikTok and asking for, quote, gifts from from viewers.
	Uh does that sound like you know, a fair trial to you?
	Because it doesn't sound that fair to me.
	No, it's not a fair trial.
	Uh the gag order is blatantly unconstitutional or prior restraint on free speech.
	Uh i it's okay for Michael Cohen to go on social media and make money, by the way, trashing Trump and giving commentary about the trial, condemning him as a criminal, but Trump is gagged uh uh from responding.
	Um, then and the judge was very firm in saying that he's gonna send them to jail if he violates the gag order again.
	And and then we have people being questioned left and right.
	I saw the mayor of New York question today.
	Well, uh, is Rikers Island prepared to take Donald Trump in as a prisoner?
	Is uh yeah.
	I guess that's one way Donald Trump won't have to sit in the courtroom.
	Uh but I can tell you story after story about violent criminals arrested in New York and they're out on the streets in seconds in Alvin Bragg's uh New York City.
	Yeah, well, look, Al Alvin Bragg campaigned as Letitia James did on the promise to nail Trump.
	Um that's what he has done.
	He has contorted the law, he has mangled the facts, and he has brought an utterly meritless, almost laughable case to uh, you know, fulfill his promise to voters.
	Um you brought up the issue of whether this constitutes a campaign contribution and therefore a violation of the law.
	It does not.
	And Hope Hicks, his former communications director, was on the witness stand, completely undermining the prosecution's theory.
	She told the jury that Trump's motive for dealing with Stormy Daniels suppressing salacious story was to protect his wife, not the campaign.
	That completely contradicts Bragg's central theory that Trump's intent was to help his election and he therefore violated campaign laws.
	The feds, as I mentioned, have exclusive authority.
	They already investigated the payment to Stormy Daniels, and they concluded this does not constitute a campaign donation.
	No crime was committed.
	But Bragg decided that for political reasons, he didn't care whether it's a legal or ill.
	He is bound and determined to try to convict Trump to interfere in a presidential election to the benefit of Joe Biden.
	All right.
	But if you're on the jury, if you're judging the jury, and the judge is allowing all of this in, which I think, you know, muddies the waters in so many different ways, and nobody's really explained what the charge is.
	Um how do you see this playing out?
	What would you recommend to Trump's attorneys in terms of how to approach this case as it relates to the law to get either a not guilty verdict or a hung jury?
	They have to keep it very, very simple.
	Where is the crime?
	And actually, to some extent they did that yesterday with the accountant on the witness stand who helped Cohen arrange for the payments and reimbursements.
	And the the very simple direct question was, is Michael Cohen a lawyer?
	Answer, yes.
	Uh so these payments would then be legal expenses, would they not?
	Yes, they would.
	Now that completely blows a hole in all thirty-four charges of falsifying business records.
	Because as I mentioned, how else are you going to call these things?
	Two lawyers negotiate.
	But how does the jury put aside the salacious nature of the testimony, for example, of Stormy Daniels or David Pecker and, you know, what the whole catch and kill operation is that most people probably have never heard of before?
	You know, this is a an effort by Bragg to slime Trump with salacious titillating stories to try to portray him as a bad guy, so you should convict him even though he didn't commit any crimes.
	So, you know, it's a charade, and it's very difficult to convince jurors, if you're the defense, to see through the sham of the indictment and the charges here.
	Uh, one of the things I would do on cross-examination with Stormy Daniels is she already said she didn't care about the money.
	She just wanted to get the story out.
	Really?
	Then why did you and your lawyer pressure Trump and Michael Cohen into paying her for her silence if you really wanted the story to get out.
	So I don't know how she could weasel out of that, but she's a pretty good talker, according to our reporter in the courtroom.
	As you followed this, and if they do keep it simple, uh what was your read on the jury during jury selection?
	I mean, they have two lawyers on the jury.
	That was an interesting selection from my point of view, but you're in a venue where nine out of ten voters uh didn't vote for Donald Trump.
	Uh and you have a judge that is obviously that should have recused himself, in my view, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is he donated to Donald Trump's opponent in 2020, Joe Biden.
	Uh, and and I sense in pretty much every ruling that this judge is just has it in for Donald Trump.
	The jury's gonna pick up on that too.
	Oh, absolutely.
	And, you know, uh judges have great influence over jurors.
	Uh when they make the rulings in front of jurors, uh, you know, they they take a cue from the judge.
	You know, he's on an elevated bench of authority with a black robe.
	And but more importantly, he dictates the jury instructions.
	A fair judge in the jury instructions would explain to these jurors that non-disclosure agreements are not a crime.
	Uh suppressing stories is not a crime.
	Reimbursing it Is is not a crime.
	Um, but I fear that this judge will not do that.
	If I'm the defense, you ask about the jurors.
	I have to assume that these jurors lied, that they do have a political and personal agenda uh against Donald Trump, that they likely wanted to get on the case uh to convict.
	And you know, I frankly think putting two of the lawyers who were normally always excluded from juries, putting it on there was a hail marry by the defense.
	They're kind of hoping that these guys know the law and they will see that the law doesn't support Alvin Bragg's case.
	Last question if if there is a guilty verdict, do you foresee an expedited appeal considering the impact this has on the election in 181 days?
	Real quick.
	Well, I'd ask for it, but uh I'm not sure, given the makeup of the appellate courts in New York, you'll get it.
	But I'm confident that in the end, the violations by this judge are so egregious.
	The the manipulation of the law by Alvin Bragg is so obvious and egregious that you know I think this will be overturn on appeal in the event of a conviction.
	But all you need is one juror to hang this up, and that could still happen.
	All right, Greg Jarrett, we appreciate you as always.
	Thank you.
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	All right, before we get to the phones, uh, I want to just tell you I Marsha Blackburn, the Senator from Tennessee, will join us in a second to discuss the fundraiser she attended for President Trump this weekend, and more importantly, legislation that her office is passing this week on behalf of children, and it's to protect your kids online.
	It will be signed into law this week, and the report act, as they call it, will legally require big tech companies to report crimes against children involving sex trafficking, grooming, and the enticement of children for sexual acts to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
	Now, currently, criminal law only requires companies to report child uh uh sexual abuse materials.
	That doesn't go far enough.
	Anyway, here to explain it before we get to your calls is Senator Marcia Blackburn.
	Hey, Senator, how are you?
	I am doing well, Sean.
	Thanks so much for having me on.
	The scary thing is parents they don't know what their kids are seeing, and the kids are being targeted online left or right.
	I actually know a group of parents that have joined together, and they actually all agreed that they're not going to allow their kids online or to have cell phones uh until unless it's an emergency cell phone with with great limitations, uh, in until they're like 15 or 16 years old.
	They said they've had it.
	They don't want their kids being targeted this way.
	And those are smart parents to do that, because what we have learned in hearing after hearing and talking to whistleblowers is that these social media companies know exactly what is going on.
	And Sean, there are laws in the physical space that say you can't take a child into a strip club.
	You can't sell alcohol or tobacco or vapes or pornographic magazines to a child.
	But in the virtual space, they are exposed to this every single day.
	And what we are doing is through the report act, we are beefing up the ability to protect children by allowing the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children to hold the information longer and be able to get these pedophiles and these predators into court.
	They also will be able to transfer this information over the cloud.
	Right now, they're having to either print it all or they're having to put it on the thumb drive and transfer it so that it can be used as evidence in court.
	And requiring these social media platforms, mandating that when they have this pedophile, and whether it's CSAM, pornography, uh abuse, or exploitative material, they must report that.
	And that puts that burden on that social media company.
	And they're going to have to do it.
	They are going to have to begin to police these networks and pull this information out and get it to Nick Mick in a timely manner.
	Let me ask you this.
	I was kind of shocked.
	You put up a post that said five to six hundred children under the age of eighteen go missing every single month in your great state of Tennessee.
	I was shocked by that number.
	That's exactly right.
	That is that's the number that we have from the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.
	These are runaways.
	These are children that go missing for a period of time.
	Some of them are found.
	Some of them remain missing.
	But that is the number.
	And being able to get this information is important in finding these children.
	And I recently did an event with NFL alums.
	And they are making it their goal this year during the football season to get information to parents so that they know how to pull DNA on their child.
	So they've got that ready for law enforcement if an unfortunate occurrence were to happen in their family and in their lives, because we should be protecting children.
	Nick Mick has thousands of cases that they have not had the opportunity to follow up on or to get into court.
	So what we need to do with all these millions of images that are coming to Nick Mick every year.
	We need to get these predators off the web.
	We need to get them out of our communities, and we need to get them prosecuted and locked up.
	Well, I I applaud your hard work here and the fact that you're you're t taking this seriously because it needs to be taken seriously.
	People have no idea.
	I've interviewed so many people over the years about sex trafficking and human trafficking and children and what they are subjected to online.
	It really does shock the conscience.
	Anyway, Senator Marsha Blackburn, Tennessee, thank you.
	We appreciate you being with us.
	Good to be with you.
	Thanks.
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	Jim in the free state of Texas, sir, how are you?
	Glad you called.
	Hey, I'm doing fantastic, Sean.
	Thanks for taking my call.
	You know, everybody knows the Democrats playbook.
	We've been talking about it for months.
	Keep Trump off the campaign trail.
	Last thing I saw, Wisconsin is basically tied.
	Pennsylvania, Arizona, the president is just barely up, I believe.
	He needs to get his vice presidential nominee selected.
	He needs to get him out there.
	He needs to get him on the campaign trail to get his message out while he's tied up in court.
	This is gonna be the most important vice presidential nominee ever because he will be or she will be the presumptive uh presidential nominee in four years.
	Personal look, well, I mean, maybe maybe not.
	I mean, uh probably you're right.
	I mean, I would think so.
	Uh but I gotta tell you this, uh, and I think this is very, very important is uh, you know, we do have a deep bench.
	There are a lot of good people.
	Uh the names that I keep hearing the most are names that you know, Senator Tim Scott, we hear about uh Marco Rubio's name has come up quite a bit.
	Uh we've heard uh I'm not sure if this this dog issue in Christy Gnome's book will impact President Trump's decision, but I know her name had been mentioned quite a bit.
	The North Dakota Governor Bergum is his name has been mentioned a lot, J.D. Vance's name has been mentioned a lot.
	Uh if I'm making that selection, I'd be I'd be asking who brings the most to the ticket and who is best qualified to take over if God forbid something happens.
	And and that's what I'd be looking for.
	I do have my I do have my favorites, but I'll keep that to myself.
	There's no what difference does it make.
	I want, you know, it's gonna be President Trump's decision and his alone.
	And he and but he's gotta he's gotta make it.
	And I I think Tim Scott would be a fantastic choice.
	The problem with Christy Noam is she didn't eat the dog.
	If she'd eaten the dog as Obama did, everything would have been just fine.
	Eat the dog as Obama did.
	What the hell are you talking about?
	The story when Obama was running for president where that they had eaten dog.
	And well, it was part of his culture.
	You know, we ate dogs.
	I thought I did the deepest dive of Obama.
	Linda, do you remember that?
	Because I don't remember anything remotely sounding like that.
	He he does.
	He actually talks about it uh in dreams for my father in his book.
	He talked about it.
	Maybe I have a vague, I don't know.
	Whatever.
	I don't who knows, who cares?
	Uh but I appreciate I appreciate the call.
	800 941 Shauna's on number if you want to be a part.
	Actually, we I we we have a cut of it.
	Okay, play it.
	With Lolo, I had learned how to eat small green chili peppers raw with dinner, plenty of rice.
	And away from the dinner table, I was introduced to dog meat, tough, snake meat, tougher, and roasted grasshopper, crunchy.
	I'm just saying, you know, sometimes the audience needs to hear it, you know, from the horse's mouth.
	I I I j honestly, with all the vetting I did of Obama, I I would have I would think I would remember that.
	Because I could tell you everything you want to know about about his radicalism and I was the one that was tasked with reading the books.
	That was my job if you remember.
	Painful, painful task.
	Well, I give you the most important part of this job is researching his crap.
	800-941 Sean, our number.
	All right, quick break, right back to our phones.

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