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Sen. Rand Paul - February 6th, Hour 2
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Uh well, Joe Biden is of course defending the the Senate border bill that he doesn't need.
Uh all he needs to do is to undo all uh all that the damage that he did in his first hundred days by rescinding all the Trump policies that were working.
He does not need a bill to do this.
He never has.
And you know, trying to look at the three years of border the border disaster uh of Joe Biden and then to try and turn this into a Republican problem, and I need Republicans to fix this, and I've done all I can, and I don't know why they don't support this.
Uh, when in fact he has all the power with the stroke of a pen to reinstate all the policies that were working.
But this really is a bill about getting another sixty billion dollars to Ukraine, fourteen billion dollars to Israel, which they certainly deserve more support as far as I'm concerned, uh, at this point, if we're gonna be supporting foreign countries.
Uh and you know, but if you listen to Joe Biden, you know, he's out there defending this bill, and he's just disappointed it doesn't go far enough.
My speaker Johnson is pay attention to what the Senate's doing.
We got a bipartisan deals and you're gonna see the detail of it.
This week will be introduced on Wednesday.
The border.
I've been asking since the first thing first bill I introduced was on the border.
We don't have enough agents, we don't have enough folks that have uh judges, we don't have enough folks there.
We need help.
Why won't they give me the help all this time?
And now it's hard about the border.
It's out of control.
Well, guess what?
Everything in that bipartisan bill gives me control, gives us control without being and still meets the needs of the people being able to come around legally come across on open avenues of legality and shut down the ones that are not coming through the points of entry.
So there's a lot we can do.
And the one thing I am disappointed in we didn't get uh Senate piece was I think it's about time we have all those young people who came and now dreamers.
It's ridiculous.
Can you imagine you're four years old?
Your mom's coming across the regime, no mom, leave me here.
I don't want to go.
Come on.
What the hell's going on here?
And they become contributing Americans and they're doing good job.
And they're decent.
So it's about time we get a little not only compassion, but a little brain from brains.
By the way, I've asked for the money for those machines to protect fentanyl.
We have these machines.
I could have, what are these guys who are screaming off fentanyl?
you Uh everything he's saying is false.
In his first hundred days, he stopped all construction of the border wall.
By the way, now we see in Texas an Eagle Pass, or they put up that razor wire.
Guess what?
99.99% of the illegal immigration taking place there is stopped.
And they now have moved uh westward towards Arizona and California where it's easier to get across.
Uh he also, as part of this deal, ended the whole catch and release and uh or brought back catch and release that's part of the bill and codifying it into law.
Uh now the remaining Mexico policy, he got rid of that on June first of twenty twenty-one.
He's the one that let Title Forty Two expire.
Uh so all of these things will were the things that were working when he inherited the most secure border of any president in the modern era.
Now, add to this, the three long years they've been telling us again and again that the border is closed and the borders secure in spite of what our eyes were showing us.
Now all of a sudden it's the Republicans' problem when it was his policy choices, his executive orders that changed the uh all of this to the disaster it has now become.
So you don't get to shift the blame at the last minute.
No, Republicans had a great border bill.
It was HR two, but nobody in the Senate seemed to care about HR two.
That's why the House is saying it's dead on arrival.
That's why there's this vote today to uh maybe begin impeachment proceedings against Alejandro Mayorchis.
We'll see what happens there.
Anyway, Rand Paul, the Senator from Kentucky joins us now, sir.
How are you?
Very good, Sean.
And you're exactly right.
The big lie is that Biden needs new powers.
He has all the same powers that Donald Trump had.
Donald Trump secured the border.
Biden inherited the same set of laws and says, Oh, I can't do it without more powers.
But the bill actually makes it worse.
The bill actually says, Oh, well, you could have 5,000 people come across the border every day, and then we'll give you emergency powers to do something.
But they give the emergency powers to the guy we're trying to impeach, Mayorka.
So they're going to give emergency powers to a guy we don't trust who's already been to the Supreme Court to sue to say that they can cut the razor wire and remove the cargo containers that are the wall.
So there's nothing believable about this.
It's a big lie.
The Democrats are propagating.
But some Republicans fell into this.
You know, this is under McConnell's leadership that they decided this is a great idea to work with the Democrats, and the bill makes the law worse.
The bill is weaker than what we already have.
Well, I mean, then what's the point of all this?
And I'm I'm listening to James Langford go out there and and basically cast eyes his fellow Republicans, and I'm like, read the bill, don't read it on Facebook.
All right, well, everybody's read the bill and nobody likes it.
And now that we're pointing out the faults in this bill, very specific faults in the bill, you know, he they they just retreat to uh well, they're gonna pass it anyway.
Now the problem is is the House does not have a very big majority, as you know, and they have you know a very slim hold on on stopping this, if in fact I guess it even makes it to the House.
I assume if if you pass this bill in the Senate with the Ukrainian package and the Israel package, that I guess you'd go to conference at some point, but I don't see any any deal being made in conference, do you?
No, I think the deal is dead now.
The House has said Speaker Johnson says it's dead on arrival, but I think even the Senate, McConnell and leadership were waking up to this, and I think in the end they're gonna vote no on Wednesday.
I think there's a chance Langford votes no on Wednesday on the home bill he negotiated.
So uh I it is a disaster of a bill.
It's a terrible idea.
And the thing is is waiting to you get five thousand people coming across the border before you begin having emergency, it's an emergency now.
We've been letting in three hundred thousand a month illegally.
That's an emergency.
But Chris Murphy, you know, is the the liberal democrat from Connecticut who negotiated.
You all you gotta do is read his tweets.
He said the quiet part out loud.
He said, nothing in this closes the border.
The border never closes.
And this is the interesting thing.
This is a real detail, but think about it.
If they get to five thousand a day, they're gonna close illegal border crossings, but they're gonna leave the legal border crossings.
So all you have to do is you can you no longer have to swim across the river.
Now you walk down and you're still allowed to come into the port even when there's five thousand a day.
So this doesn't stop anything, and Chris Murphy's actually being honest here.
The border never closes.
There is no closing of the border, and we're talking about one point eight million a year coming across illegally.
So I think they're starting to pivot.
I think what you're gonna see, and I just came from my my Republican Senate office.
By the way, there are rumors that it got pretty heated in there today.
Is that true?
Yeah, no, I can never tell you.
But uh it's top secret.
But yeah, there's a lot of tension in the Well, you what you know what you could say, say, well, Sean, I've known you for a long time and your sources seem to be pretty impeccable.
You can say it that way.
Yeah, I could I could say that, or I could say I'd have to kill you if I told you it's so competent.
Either one of work either one works for me.
Uh but it is, it is content.
But here's what the thing is is my sense and overall description of what I'm hearing from my caucus, they're gonna pivot, but they're never giving up on on on shoveling your money away to Ukraine.
Now I will tell you one senator stood up and said exactly what I would say is I go home every weekend and I have yet to have a Kentuckian come up to me and say, hey, please send more money to Ukraine.
What they say is we've got problems here at home, and we need to do stuff here at home, but they're they're not interested in shoveling more money out the door.
And I will say, even for our friend Israel, it ought to be paid for.
Senator Johnson or uh Speaker Johnson put it forward.
They've already passed it.
I've supported it in the Senate.
Fourteen billionaires.
Well, that's I mean, that is the thing.
The Israelis just need the equipment now and they're willing to purchase it.
They're not they're not even asking for a handout.
Yeah, Exactly.
The 14 billion has been sort of offered without any request yet from Israel.
But if there's any more money given, even to allies, it ought to be taken away from excess spending or less important spending somewhere else.
And so when Speaker Johnson came forward, he did it.
He passed it and took IRS money to pay for it.
And now they're talking about passing it again with no pay for.
So I think it's a terrible step backwards, and I'm not for any foreign aid that's not paid for.
It has to be taken from somewhere else in the budget that's less important.
I agree.
I mean so walk me through the process.
Why is this bill was being written behind closed doors, I guess, in smoke-filled rooms to use that old cliche.
But why weren't they out there talking to people like you and Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio and Conservatives in the Senate and and keeping them in the loop?
If you remember when it got leaked that five the uh the five thousand number on any given day, Langford just, you know, was vicious and said, you know, that that's not true, that's not in there.
Well, it turns out it was in there.
Well, and see, this is the big thing going on.
And in our caucus lunch today, someone brought that exact point up and they said if this would have been public, one person wouldn't have had to take all the blame, it would have gone back and forth, and conservatives would have immediately said that that's too high.
So I'm walking back from from the Capitol this morning over to my office, and a reporter's asking me, What would a number be?
And I say, Well, zero, because there's already an emergency.
We let in 700,000 people in the last two months illegally, so the number should be zero.
The emergency is already there.
The emergency isn't another five thousand tomorrow.
The emergency is a seven hundred thousand people came in, so that number of five thousand a day should be zero.
And then you would have a chance of having a bill.
The emergency starts.
Well, well, that would actually be lawful, Senator.
You know, God forbid, I know you're a lawmaker, but I mean these laws are on the books.
We've gone over them in great detail.
Uh, which are the applicable laws.
We've sa also gone gone over all of Joe Biden's executive orders slashing and burning the Trump policies on the border that worked.
Yeah, and the current law that Trump operated under and controlled the border basically says that the president may admit people through migrant asylum through political asylum.
Doesn't say shall.
So we believe that the current immigration law gives the president at any point in time, if they have the courage to do it, to stand up and say, enough's enough.
We're stopping, we're closing the border, no illegal crossings, but no legal crossings uh for asylum.
We're just going to stop it.
By the way, and that and Joe Biden and Mayorchis and Kamala and Karin Jean-Pierre and Jen Sake, they've all been saying for three years that it the border's secure and closed.
Yeah.
I mean, while we have nearly ten million illegal immigrants unvetted all over the country, coming from places like Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, Egypt, Russia, and China.
Can you explain to me why people from those countries are ending up at our southern border?
Because I don't have very good thoughts about it.
This is the problem that underlies the whole process.
So by McConnell agreeing and Langford doing his bidding to say we're going to negotiate with the guy that the House is impeaching.
We're on different planets here.
So the House is impeaching myorcas for not obeying the law.
Impeachment's a big deal.
We haven't impeached a cabinet member in a long, long time.
To have a cabinet member impeached, and at the same time McConnell and Langford decided we're going to negotiate with this guy because they're so trustworthy.
We'll give him more power and we'll think Mayorcus is going to control the border with more power when we're impeaching him for mouth easing right now.
Well, that's what I'm trying to understand.
W bring us behind closed doors and explain to me why they thought that they could somehow convince conservatives uh that this bill is is worthy of being passed.
W uh when they weren't even bringing any of you into the process.
Well, I'll tell you what I do here behind the scenes is that I hear from people in our caucus who talk to sources high up who say we need to make sure Sean Annity's not talking about this for Laura Ingram because conservatives, that's why they kept it secret.
And that that was said out loud in our caucus that said this has to be kept before and it cannot be allowed to go in front of the conservative talk show hosts, it cannot be allowed to discuss.
That's why it's secret.
So they kept it secret for weeks.
Wait a minute.
My name was mentioned specifically.
Specifically, That they did not want there to be any of this discussion.
They said if it would percolate for a week or two, the conservatives and the conservative talk show hosts will defeat this.
And to them it's always been mostly it's all about Ukraine.
Everything in this is about Ukraine and funneling the money to Ukraine.
The the border's been a side show, but they knew the conservatives wouldn't like it if it wasn't any good, so they had to keep it secret with a hope in the end.
But it leaks, and the thing is is once it leaked, it was so bad that many people now, and I'm one of them believed that this proposal is actually worse than the current law is.
You know, it's amazing that they want to keep things away from the people in this country.
I thought that I had this ridiculous idea, and I think I was taught this in school, and I clearly was misinformed by my teachers and my professors, but, you know, I actually had this belief that elected officials were public servants, not people that were trying to hide things from the people that put them in power.
Yep, and this is a disappointing thing.
I mean, any kind of transparency you think would be an easy bipartisan thing.
I have a bill right now to make it transparent that all scientists that get government money should have to reveal where they get their royalties from, that they get their royalties from Pfizer, Moderna, Big Pharma.
They should have to fill out a piece of paper saying, I get this much money from these companies, and I'm fighting tooth and nail to get even a Democrat co-sponsor.
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All right, we continue now with uh Senator Rampall here in a second.
I want to first play Chuck Schumer and how he is describing this Ukraine Israel border bill and how crucial it is.
And the people will look over our shoulders.
Did we rise to the occasion?
Yeah, you you rose to the occasion of failing miserably again, Chuck.
This bill is crucial, and history will look back on it and say, Did America fail itself?
Why is it crucial?
Well, if we don't aid uh Ukraine, Putin will be walk all over Ukraine.
We will lose the war, and we could be fighting in Eastern Europe in a NATO ally in a few years.
Americans won't like that.
So this is crucial for America.
It's a turning point.
History is going to look over our shoulders and say, did we rise to the occasion?
All right.
We continue with Senator Ram Paul of Kentucky.
I've been promoting your book a lot.
I urge everybody to get a copy of Deception, and I'll tell you why.
If you want the definitive story and the case in point about how bad Dr. Fauci was during this entire pandemic, it's all there in black and white uh with all the emails that are eye-opening uh and how awful uh Fauci's leadership was and how dishonest the entire NIH and the world frankly were to the American people the whole time.
Uh and anyone that dared to take a counter narrative to that, like you will, you know, were excoriated for it, and you ended up being right the whole time.
Well, you know, we reveal in the book that there were meetings early on in February of 2020 between Fauci and some of the scientists that were working with the scientists in China.
They knew from a previous proposal that COVID 19 looked exactly like a virus they had proposed to do with the Chinese scientists, but they never revealed this.
They never revealed it uh to anyone in government.
They never warned us that this pointed right at the Wuhan Lab.
They knew that in early 2020, and all these scientists said not a one-a word, one word publicly to warn us, and they claim that they didn't inform the White House either.
Have you believed that and and also add to that they tried to push this ridiculous wet market theory on everybody?
Uh and by the way, have you heard about this new version of COVID that would kill everybody?
Is that real?
Is anybody looking into whether that's factual?
They are they are still, and this is coming from China, they are still manipulating the coronavirus, which is COVID is a coronavirus.
And they did it recently.
They manipulated it such that it was a hundred percent fatal to rats, and then it also is affecting the brain of the rats as well, the neural nervous system.
And so, no, these crazy kind of Frankenstein experiments are still going on, and my fear is that we're doing them here in the United States as well.
I'm working on a bill that we're trying still to get Democrat co-sponsorship, and that would be to make a separal separate federal advisory board that overlooks all dangerous research and can veto this research if it's a risk.
And that has to happen because my fear is that what happened with COVID 19 could happen again, but with a much transpirer to the next time.
All right, Senator, we appreciate you being with us.
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Rich is in St. Louis, Missouri.
Rich, how are you?
Glad you called.
Thanks for checking in.
doing great, Sean.
Love your show, and it's truly an honor to talk to you.
Thank you.
The honor's all mine.
And uh we love our friends in St. Louis.
Hey, I'm glad to hear that uh you have so much power now that you could kill Bills.
Apparently they don't want me to know about what's in them.
That is pretty amazing, isn't it?
You know, I mean that they don't want you it's not me that they're targeting here.
They don't want the information that I'm going to get going to you.
They want to hide this.
They want to do all this behind closed doors.
Pretty amazing, isn't it?
I'm I'm not offended by it.
I mean, now I know officially from Jim Jordan that my my social media presence was purposefully uh reduced by our government leading into the last election.
That's what he told me on this program.
But I digress.
It's not about me.
It's about I will tell you, it's about keeping information from we, the people.
But you go, you're what's on your mind?
Well, you know, the reason I call it is um I'm still trying to wrap my brain around how Republican senators like Langford and Mitch McConnell can say that this was a uh a good compromise.
I mean, even Obama said that the standard for a crisis was a thousand a day.
What's changed?
Well, what's changed is the Democratic Party, the modern Democratic Party is a new radical leftist socialist, climate alarmist religious cult, you know, party.
They're not they're not like old time Democrats.
Maybe the Canary in the coal mine was when the Democratic Party rejected even Joe Lieberman for crying out loud.
Joe Lieberman was a moderate Democrat.
He was not a hardcore left-wing Democrat.
Are there any left?
No.
They're gone.
I mean it's true.
I mean, Chris the Kristen Cinema's claimed this mantle, but you know, she was one of the authors of this bill.
The border never closes.
Just focus on those words of of Chris Murphy.
The border never closes.
1,400 a day minimum, even if the border is being overwhelmed.
I mean, that is not that's first of all that it we're codifying with this law all of the illegal things that Joe has been doing in the first place.
I mean, it's wrong on so many different levels.
And the idea that Joe is trying to flip this issue.
Remember, they've they've told us for three years there's no no crisis at the border, the border's secure, the borders closed.
And meanwhile, we're looking at migrants, you know, the it these huge caravans of illegal immigrants just walking across the country unvetted.
And the more we get to know about people on the terror watch list, what countries people are coming from.
Why are people from China showing up at our southern border?
Why from Russia?
Why are they showing up at our southern border from Iran and Syria and Egypt and Afghanistan?
Why is that?
Doesn't that seem odd to you?
Does that not seem like you know, we might be inviting into the country people that don't have our best interests at heart?
Seems also scary, doesn't it?
Well, it is scary.
That's why elections matter.
We got one in well, 272 short days.
I hope people are paying attention.
Anyway, Rich, appreciate it, buddy.
God bless you.
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Uh George in my home state, the free state of Florida.
George, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Hey, Sean, thanks for taking my call.
Hey, I I was watching the the president this excuse me, this this afternoon, and I was kind of frustrated because he doesn't mention uh the the humanitarian crisis that's gone on behind the border.
Um, you know, I have four kids, Sean, and I've taught them to work hard, study hard, uh, and always have a side hustle and always do to others what they want them to do to you.
The golden rule.
And my son, working uh a side job at a restaurant here in central Florida, he had uh he befriended uh a Hispanic gentleman um uh in a kitchen, and after a while, he told my son that he he crossed the border illegally,
and he had uh left his his area of Mexico with twelve other people, uh husbands and wives, pregnant women, and and everybody had bottles of water, and it was days traveling in the desert, and it was th three three uh uh there was um uh after at the end of the day at the end of the trip, only three people survived, Sean.
And he had to do things that basically my son shared that he's basically spent the last ten years uh coping with the stress by drinking hard in the bottle.
He buried all his things he had to do to make choices of all right, this person's not gonna make it.
Do we leave them water or do we take the water?
So there's things that was unbelievably happening.
So if you go with the five thousand people crossing the border in a day, there are fifteen thousand people behind that border losing their lives and destroying their families because of this administration.
And you know, and the only way we're gonna you know I don't know if you can you know could fix it, but I if the legacy meter legacy media would get off their butt, maybe your best friend uh not your best friend, but you're one of your friends, uh you can you can uh you can uh get Ted Coppel to come out of uh retirement.
Um Ted Copeland and this is nightline.
Hannity, you're dangerous, remember?
The most dangerous man in America.
Um because you're good at what you do.
Um I learned a new term after I gave Ted Coppel over an hour of my time, and he edits it down to like a minute and twenty seconds or whatever it was, and he only makes himself look good, and he cuts off my answer.
You're not just cynical.
Look at that.
Yeah, I am cynical because uh you know you think we're bad for America.
You think I'm bad for America.
Yeah.
You do.
In the in the long haul, I think you ran all these opinions.
Ted.
No, you know why sad.
Because you're very good at what you do, and because you have you have attracted a significantly more intelligence.
Let me finish the sentence.
Let me finish the sentence.
With all the results.
You yes, you have you have attracted people who are determined that ideology is more important than facts.
Yeah, he thinks I'm bad for America.
Anyway, I think uh it's good that he's in retirement because you know, old school classic liberal acting like a journalist, he's anything buddies.
He was the talk show host just like me.
He just didn't want to admit it.
Anyway, my friend, I you know, I don't know what's wrong with these people.
I really don't.
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Tina is in Utah.
Tina, how are you?
Where in Utah are you?
I'm good.
How are you doing, Sean?
I'm good.
Where do you live in Utah?
Uh Curns, Utah.
That's how suburb.
Um I just wanted to say, you know what, when I started in politics, which was quite a long time ago.
Oh, at well, I won't say too long when Obama.
I I was hilarious and I've got smarter since then.
I did vote for Obama, but I wasn't into politics.
But when you listen to politics, you really understand.
But now I just don't understand the Republican Party now.
I I transferred over to Republican Party, and I'm like, they're not doing anything for us either because none of them have each other's back.
They cannot decide on something, and it's just crazy.
So what do you do?
Well let me let me let me just tell you about the Republican Party.
There are very good conservative people in the House and Senate.
Uh there are people that you can always count on to fight for conservative principles.
Uh then you got this other group of people.
It's it's sort of like the Democratic Party light, or you can call it a uniparty if you want.
And a bunch of people that don't stand on their principles.
They say one thing they get elected, and then when given an opportunity, you know, they they pull a fast one.
I mean, we just heard from Rand Paul specifically, they did not want people like me getting a hold of this bill because they knew that uh they knew what they had in there was not gonna be palpable with conservatives.
So rather than being straight with us or honest with us, they try to hide it from us and then try and sell it off as something that is not and basically lie to us and manipulate us.
You know, they they seem more concerned about their relationship with the likes of Chuck Schumer, and and meanwhile, Chuck Schumer and Chris Murphy and Kristen Cinema, you know, they've got to be laughing at the the likes of Langford for going along with this stupid idea of theirs.
Um There's nothing that Joe Biden needs in terms of the tools to close the border.
And that should have been communicated to all of them.
He can undo the damage that he created on day one, and they can then admit that for three years they've done nothing but lie to us.
And I just keep going back to it because Joe Biden created this crisis like he created the economic crisis, like we have a foreign policy crisis unfolding before our eyes.
war in Europe, war in the Middle East.
We have enemies that have no respect for Joe Biden.
We're in a bad spot right now.
And the only thing I see that can change it is a new president in 272 days and You know, one thing I'll say about Trump is Trump did give Republicans a spine.
Republicans that were weak were called out, and they they didn't want to be on the wrong side of history.
And he gave them strength that frankly otherwise they didn't have on their own.
And it's a shame.
You shouldn't have to look to other people for strength.
So I, you know, there's the there's the answer.
There are Republicans, frankly, that are they're just a spitting image of the Democratic Party, and they're there to get along and to get re-elected and stay in power and be called Senator and Congressman.
Uh anyway, 800 Matthew, Florida, Matthew, you're next.
Thank you, Tina.
What's going on, Matthew?
Hey, Sean, how are you?
Good, sir.
So my question is it seems like all of a sudden the Democrats seem to care about the border after three years of of not caring.
And now they're blaming this crisis on the Republicans for not getting their way on this bill.
Um, the American people actually gonna believe that the Democrats care about the border.
There are gonna be people that I'll lied to that will believe the big lie that somehow Joe Biden needs this power.
He does not.
I've gone through this again and again and again.
He does not need any authority from Congress.
He needs to enforce existing laws and bring up the policies, bring them back that he got rid of when he became president with the stroke of a pen.
He got rid of them with a stroke of a pen.
He can bring them back with the stroke of a pen.
So all of this is a great lie.
You know, after three years of lying about the border being closed, now we're up to ten million unvetted, you know, illegal Joe Biden immigrants in our country.
What are we supposed to do then?
Joe Biden just can't figure it out, it seems like.
Yeah, well, there's one answer.
You know, I think Joe's tired.
I think Joe needs to go home and go to sleep.
I think he needs a rest.
I think he's he's done all he can do for his country.
Now go home.
He's done enough damage.
Anyway, appreciate the call, my friend.
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