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Battle of the States - December 1st, Hour 1

Sean recounts the Desantis/Newsom debate and shares his thoughts on how it went.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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If you want to be a part of the program, I had a great time last night.
Linda, you know me.
You could tell I was having a good time.
I mean, you were in your prime, that's for dang sure.
I was in my prime.
I don't know how to take that.
But no, it's a good thing.
Like I was, you know, like I said, it's your first time being a moderator.
You did a good job.
Um, I it it's it's harder than you think.
I mean, the amount of work, research, fact-checking that goes on behind the scenes.
I've I've been working hard on this for a couple of weeks, and I wanted we got every single fact right uh as a basis to every question.
Uh as far as the noise that is going on in terms of people complaining, I don't really care because I know the truth and I have evidence of the truth.
Um, uh if need be.
But you know, um, and the funny thing was is is Gavin Newsom was fine with it.
Look, here's a pr he here's the challenge if you're a moderator.
You put out a question, and if a and if a candidate does not want to answer that question, they're not going to.
Now, you can go back, and I did go back on a on a number of questions that when I would ask, for example, the the first question out of the box about migration.
You know, and I put up on the screen facts.
The facts are from the U.S. Census Bureau in this case, 750,000 people in the years I think we had 20 uh 21 and 2022, had left the state of California.
That's the first time in the history of the state that that's that's ever happened.
They always had people moving into the state.
Having lived there five years, it is a beautiful state.
If you if you've never driven the Pacific Coast Highway, you you got to do that at some point in your life.
It will be worth every bit of all the time in the world.
It really will be.
Um, and I didn't have a lot of money when I lived in California.
That's where I eventually got started in radio in, you know, the 1980s.
I'm aging myself here.
But it is a beautiful state.
I mean, coastline, it is it is spectacular.
It was the state of Ronald Reagan.
It was the state of Richard Nixon.
And it is no it is now so solidly blue, it's it's it's amazing.
But and as I've been pointing out, I'm I and I I can't I couldn't understand in the lead up to the debate why some people didn't understand this.
I think people now understand it a little more because we've discussed it.
But if you don't pay attention to what your local government is doing, your state government is doing, they can have a greater impact, overall impact on your life uh more than the what whatever might be going on with the federal government, although that that is obviously important as well.
I mean, for example, start on the local level.
Start with your local school board.
If your local school board is woke and they they want to teach about gender identity and CRT, et cetera, and you're a parent that would prefer they stick to the basics, reading, writing, math, science, history, computers, it's understand if you don't pay attention to it, they're just going to do whatever they want and they won't be held accountable, and your kids won't be getting the traditional education that I think is so critical.
I mean, on every issue that we talked about, uh it impacts people's lives.
But I, you know, in this particular case, uh, I felt Governor Newsome just came in with his own opening statement.
I went back to him, I said, but you haven't addressed the issue of why are people leaving your state, why are states like uh Florida?
I mean, in that same time period, nearly a half a million people, 454,000 people moved into the state of Florida in a two-year period.
That is massive migration.
And the phenomenon, it is it is blue states that are losing the population.
Now you might argue that well, maybe people in New York are retiring and maybe they don't like the winners in New York or New Jersey or Illinois.
But well, California doesn't fit into that category.
They're not leaving because they don't like the weather.
They actually probably love the weather.
Then you go into the issue of taxation.
And okay, so you talk, well, Governor Newsom believes in tax quote taxing the rich, they have a high marginal tax rate, the highest in the country at over 13%.
Uh but yet if you're a married couple making 84,000 a year, you're still paying 6% of your income for state income taxes, and then all the other taxes.
And I, again, fact-based, I put it all on the screen, let people see it.
I think that informs people, it makes it a healthier debate.
So I did my best and then did my best to allow Governor DeSantis to be the one debating Gavin Newsom after I threw out the topics.
And I was very transparent with both sides.
I said, guys, this you don't have to overthink this.
I am going to be talking about all the obvious issues.
It was very, very clear.
Uh, in other words, that this wasn't going to devolve into some type of uh debate about, you know, questions that you would never have imagined or prepared for.
I wanted them to be prepared.
I wanted them to explain it.
You know, if you look at the border, I mean, uh it is shocking to me that there's not a sense of urgency at what is a clear and present danger to our country.
When you look at the number one state sponsor of terror and the number of foreign nationals that have that we've caught, not including potential gotta ways, why why why are six hundred how did six hundred and fifty-nine Iranians end up at our southern border?
The number one state sponsor of terror.
You know, look at Afghanistan, where we know uh Al Qaeda still exists, six thousand three hundred and eighty-six, you know, uh Egypt, three thousand one hundred and fifty-three.
Last I checked, the Muslim Brotherhood is still very large and active out of Egypt.
Syria, Syria, of course, has been involved as in proxy battles on behalf of Iran, 538.
Then you go to countries like China.
Why are we allowing 22,000?
How come 22,187 Chinese nationals showed up at our border?
And why did 22,000 Russians show up at our border?
Again, not including Ghadaways.
That's our number one, number two, number three, if you include Iran, geopolitical foes.
These, you know, is there not a strong possibility that they come here with the nefarious uh intentions and agenda, maybe to create a terror cell in the hopes of another 9-11 or maybe even God forbid, worse, that wouldn't be good for this country.
And and these are very important issues.
Now, I give both candidates credit that they they were will, they're not candidates, both governors' credit for coming to the debate.
They got in the arena, um, and I appreciate that fact, but they uh you can't stop people that have their own agendas.
Um, but I thought This was a very, very, very important debate to have.
You know, besides a little over talking, and I I tried hard not to I like tried to let the debate breathe, as I was saying during the debate.
I tried to allow each side to get their say in.
I thought they both had enough time uh at the end of the debate, it was actually Gavin Newsom that had spoken more than Ron DeSantis.
You know, but the idea that, for example, if California embraces what they have embraced, which is sanctuary state status, and Governor DeSantis sends people to Sacramento on an airplane because he believes in law and order on our borders and our sovereignty and the rule of law and believes it for security reasons, and then you have a sanctuary state.
Well, if if that's your policy, take it.
You know, then okay, then I thought that's what you were promising people.
By the way, in California in January, health care is gonna be provided to anybody.
You can walk into that state, you can get on their Medi-Cal plan.
Well, what's that gonna do to the high cost of living in California and the high rate of taxation?
There are Democrats around the country now that are sounding off on Joe's border crisis.
Governor Healy of Massachusetts is calling it a crisis of inaction.
The governor of Illinois, Pritzker is calling it an untenable situation.
The mayor of New York is saying this will destroy New York City.
Arizona governor, I'm sorry, Arizona Senator Kelly is saying that it's chaos, it's an utter mess.
You know, it all impacts things.
Now, what are the reasons that people are leaving?
You know, 750,000 people left California in 2021, according to the U.S. Census Bureau, that is that's a large amount of people, and that had never happened before.
You look at New York, they lost 528,000.
You look at Illinois, they lost 262,000.
New Joyce lost 142,000.
And they all seem to be moving to states um like Florida and Texas and Tennessee and the Carolinas, people just getting out.
When you look at the Southern Border Encounters, it's 6.5 million according to U.S. Customs and Border Patrol.
And again, we we were very meticulous in our fact-checking last night.
And then you talk about what Senator Ron Johnson said they they estimated what 1.7 million gotta waste.
That's a lot.
Homeland, uh how the House Homeland Security report on how much this is costing, we the American people, okay, up to 450 billion dollars a year at a point where we now have or very close to 34 trillion dollars in debt that you know this year alone we're gonna pay a trillion dollars in interest on the debt.
Well, that's 25% of our budget before you pay a dime into Social Security or a dime into Medicare or a dime into defense or a dime into any other program.
Guess what?
You got to pay the debt off first before you can do anything else.
I mean, that is a massive amount of money.
How are we ever gonna pay that back?
Now, what I would do is I become the most energy dominant and energy rich country on the face of the earth.
And I don't see that they're gonna do that.
Um, you know, but all of these issues, gas price comparisons.
I mean, why why is it that the national average is three dollars and twenty-five cents and cow and Florida's cost per gallon is three dollars and ten cents, and for the record, gas never averaged nationally uh above three dollars under Donald Trump for four years, and then you go out to California, it's you know, 480, I'm sorry, $4.88 a gallon.
And then they're suing the oil companies.
And what happens when the oil companies they've they've got to get that money back, they gotta hire expensive lawyers, they gotta put them on retainer, then they probably have to fight it in court.
That's gonna be probably tens and tens and tens of millions of dollars.
Well, what are they gonna do?
How are they gonna pay for all that?
Well, they're gonna start charging more for the price of energy, as if that's the last thing that we need.
You know, but they still do have proper uh 13, which is on the books, which is one tax where it's a little bit lower than Florida in California, 0.75%, Florida's 0.91%, but the sales tax is higher, the gas tax is much higher, corporate income tax uh a little bit higher in Florida, but but the bottom line is there's no that's not a penny, not one penny in income tax in the state of Florida for anybody.
But if you're a family of uh just a married couple and your combined income is eighty-four thousand dollars a year, in a state like California, that is not a lot of money.
In that state, that's uh that that really is you're just getting by if you are getting by.
Well, that that couple has to pay six percent income tax on top of the federal income tax.
I mean, it's this this is all impacting people's lives.
Um, anyway, we'll get your thoughts throughout the day on it and and have analysis play some of the the debate last night.
Uh Linda, you liked it, right?
You said you said you you were kind of riveted to it.
I liked it a lot.
I like the conversation on abortion.
I thought that was interesting.
Okay.
That that was one big issue, too.
But uh these what states do really does matter.
And they're having huge impacts on people's lives.
I know we tend to focus more on the federal government, naturally, but state regulations, state taxation, state policy, local policy, local regulation.
Let me tell you, it plays a big part in your life, and many of you may not even be aware of it.
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Uh I noticed the Drudge Report also they uh they had a poll up that showed DeSantis winning by significant margin on on the Drudge Report.
It was nearly 70% the last time I looked, I think it was 68, 69% or something.
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Is now we head into the election season, and so much left.
So much to talk about.
I mean, this was the thing about last night.
We could have gone easily four hours.
I could have sat there four hours, and I promise you I would not have run out of questions.
The hard part for me is the debate was going on is uh, I really want to ask these five questions, but I can only get two of them in.
Drives me crazy when that happens.
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I'm loving this piece on the political.
Uh, I know you probably read it, Linda.
Newsom Cam, Hannity DeSantis cheated.
They could because they say, well, Ron uh DeSantis, Governor DeSantis brought out a prop he took out a piece of paper out of his his jacket.
Yeah, that they cheated.
Is this the minutia that these people are getting into?
Can someone please tell me how bringing out a piece of paper out of your own pocket.
You can't make it up, man.
Give me a freaking break.
I mean, it's just annoying.
I I actually find it amusing, and uh apparently they were not happy when Gavin Gavin was having a great time.
Then tweeted out, oh, I had the best time ever.
Thanked me.
But I guess the people behind the scenes uh didn't particularly like I don't know why they didn't like it.
I have no idea.
Because they're liberals, they're jobs.
If I ever told the real story, yeah, the people that were uh let's just say not exactly uh prone to keeping their agreements and words.
Uh there's a pretty big story for me to tell, but I'm gonna stand by my word as of now and and not tell these stories because they're so it's almost to the point was unbelievable.
I'm glad they debated.
I applaud both of them.
It was a fair debate.
And oh, and then complaints, I guess that I actually used nobody nobody has disputed a single fact that we that I used in my questions.
They're just mad that I put it up on the screen as part of my question.
And if if that is your position, if that is your record, why don't you defend your record?
Defend your policies.
Defend your decision.
There are people that think higher taxes are better.
That's just a that's how some liberal minds work.
Tax the rich, tax the rich rich, tax the rich.
Yeah, and then the guess what?
The rich start leaving.
Tax the rich, tax the rich, tax the rich.
We did.
Now, God forbid the rich leave.
The rich are leaving.
They're leaving New York.
Governor Cuomo called that one right.
They're leaving New York in droves.
They're leaving California in droves.
It's a phenomenon we've never seen before.
Um I'll think about a response.
I'm, you know, it's just like, I guess you didn't feel that your candidate did well, or your your governor did well if you're just whining like this over the most petty things in the world.
By the way, which mocho most of which is not true.
Um I don't know who it was.
People are asking me about the report.
I did hear somebody after Governor Newsom said, I like to keep going.
Somebody came in.
I don't know who it was.
Um I did have an opportunity to speak to him twice yesterday with his staff and and once with his wife.
She was lovely.
And and or first partner, I think they call uh officially, I want to use the proper term that they prefer.
Um, and it just lovely.
They couldn't have been nicer.
And he in person is a nice guy.
However, the policies are the policies, the record is the record.
The questions were on the most basic and fundamental issues that impact people's lives.
It is that simple.
Immigration, policy, impacts, people's lives, taxes, impact, people's lives, regulation, impacts, people's lives, crime, law, order.
It's a prerequisite for happiness or the pursuit of happiness.
It impacts people's lives.
All of the issues I brought up.
When I prepared for this debate, the one thing I wanted to do was make it relevant to every single person, not just in California and Florida, but the issues we're all facing.
Crime, regulation, taxation, immigration, illegal immigration.
You know, how do we pay for all of this?
Um and I felt that we accomplished that goal.
Um, and that was it.
And we were very transparent with both sides saying the exact same thing.
And, you know, whatever.
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Uh all right, now, uh, we got so much news out there.
I don't even know what to say about this issue and involving George Santos.
He hasn't been convicted.
Now, uh it's actually personal in a way to me.
I don't know how I got stuck with this guy, but he happened to be, he's no longer my congressman.
And what I don't understand, what I don't understand about Republicans is if Congresswoman Taleb called, you know, from the river to the sea, the the absolute wiping out of Israel and only gets a censure.
How is it a guy that's not been convicted of anything?
He's been charged that the Republicans have to race out there and say, Nope, we're gonna kick him out when they only have a four seat majority.
Now it's down to three.
With reports that as many as two other Republicans might retire by year's end or early next year, one of them being Kevin McCarthy.
Okay, now they're down to a one vote majority.
God forbid somebody had a heart attack and passed away or or didn't want to be there either.
Okay, now it what Speaker Jeffries?
This is where Republicans do not I keep saying Democrats, they circle the wagons.
Republicans, they create circular firing squads.
And anyway, um I mean, one thing John Fennerman said today, I can't believe I'm quoting him.
If Republican George Santos deserved to be expelled, well, the same thing should then happen to the indicted Democratic Senator from New Jersey, and that would be Bob Menendez.
What's your reaction to the exp uh expulsion?
Well, it's like uh I'm not surprised.
But but to me, what I think the b the more important picture is is that we have a colleague in the Senate that actually did much more sinister and and serious kinds of things, uh, Senator Menendez.
Uh he needs to go.
Um, and if you are going to expel Santos, how can you allow to somebody like Menendez to remain in the Senate?
And you know, Santos is kind of lies were almost you know funny.
And like, you know, he you know, landed on the the moon and a guy kind of stuff.
Uh whereas whereas, you know, I yeah, I think you know, Menendez, I think is really a senator for Egypt, you know, not New Jersey.
Um so I I I I really think he needs to go.
And uh especially it's kind of strange that if Santos uh is not allowed to remain in the House, you know, someone like that.
I mean, uh uh first of all, I would not support that.
Linda, am I like one of those few people that will refuses to rush to judgment?
You know, does not go along with this, you know, uh this this constant pattern that people oh you're guilt your charge are guilty.
No, I don't believe that.
I believe it can I give it until you've proven uh guilty.
Yes, go right ahead.
I I just want to give a slight comparison.
So this is the same Congress, House and Senate that is unable to vote to impeach Mayorcas.
The same House and Senate that is unable to vote on funding Israel.
It's the same one.
They had a chance this week to fund Israel in a clean bill.
Voted standalone bill.
Schumer's up there crying.
Oh, my heart for Israel.
Oh, really?
Why don't you rally the troops, Schumer?
Just start pulling some strings.
We all know you have them.
Knock it off.
We could have cut the check already.
Yep.
Crocodile tears.
They're all they're so full of crap.
But Santos, oh yeah, he's the problem.
And this is listen, I I have I'm not giving my opinion on who he is and what he's about.
That's a different segment entirely.
My point is when they want to act, they act.
And this is all like pomp and circumstance.
They could do things to help people.
They're not.
I think how about we wait till they have their trial and assume presume give them the presumption of innocence.
Well, why don't we stop rushing to judgment the way these people do?
I do have other good news, by the way.
Uh bad news if you're a Chris Christie fan, all fifteen of you.
Uh, it looks like Christie's days on the debate stage may be numbered.
Uh he's not met the Republican National Committee's polling thresholds for qualifying for next week's debate.
I didn't even know there was a deb oh there is a debate next week.
That's right.
With only a few days left.
Um anyway, let's get to the phones.
Uh John is in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
Hey John, happy Friday, sir.
Glad you called.
John, how are you doing, my friends?
I'm good.
What's going on?
Hey, I just wanted to comment last night.
I was able to to listen to the audio of last night.
And I thought what you you handled it brilliantly.
I think what you letting them talk over one another for the period of time that they did, I thought was brilliant.
What that taught me was how in chemic typical Democrat fashion, Newsom just he can't he can't support his own position.
So he's got to talk down to belittle, talk over, you know.
Everybody else.
And I thought when you put up the graphics, and then he told us that you know it was a lie, and if we shouldn't believe our own eyes, um I thought you handled it very, very well.
I think you did a great job.
Well, I I honestly I really appreciate it.
It's a it's a it's a balancing act.
I mean, um I've been hosting radio for thirty three years now, okay, and we've had many shootout debates on this program, and you know, I have learned it's kind of an art form to the best of my ability.
There there are times when they're going at it hard and people actually want to see it.
Now they'll tell you they don't, but they do.
But you then there's uh that then you gotta balance that where okay, people are gonna be getting pissed off and it's gotta stop and you gotta get control of it.
So it's kind of like, you know, I I'm always trying to measure, and usually I kind of go with my own, all right.
I've had enough of this.
When I get to that point, or somebody writes me and gets and says, and I see my text come in and say this is getting old, I'll move on.
Uh I appreciate your kind words, though, John.
Thank you, buddy.
Uh have a great weekend.
Adam in California.
Adam, how are you?
Doing good.
I'm doing good.
Um, I was in uh uh chat group with a bunch of my friends, and I think uh I was like one of maybe five uh conservatives in the group.
There's it was about fifty or sixty friends, is uh it was a large group chat.
But uh a lot of them thought that it was two on one.
You and uh you went to Santis against uh Newsom.
And I think I was the only one in there that uh that knew that you have a uh a relationship with Newsom outside, a friendly relationship outside of politics.
I mean, if you met him, he's a nice guy.
I will tell you that.
He's very, you know, charming central casting.
I mean, he could have been Michael Douglas and the American president.
He I mean, and I think and I by the way, and he's also sincere in his beliefs.
That part I can tell you, it's not it's not a show.
Yeah, the guy, the guy definitely is camera friendly.
He uh But they've been saying that for weeks leading up to it.
I actually joke with him in a text.
I'm like, oh, when are you gonna start saying it's four on one?
Three oh one.
He goes, Great idea.
They that that was their way of sort of it was it's just their talking point, to be very honest with you, but it it's meaningless to me because it was not.
Yeah.
I thought you did a very good job.
And besides uh uh regardless of what side me and my friends were on, we all agreed that it was one of the best debates that we have we haven't seen and we've heard.
Um you could have put it on on uh pay-per-view and some people would have paid for it, heck, depending on the price I might have.
But uh we were we were all hanging on the words of each one.
It was like a boxing match, man.
I mean, you you killed it.
You did a very, very good job.
And we once uh once the debate part got it got once I got the topic out there, and maybe so I guess their complaint is they didn't like how I framed the questions, but all I did was they were all fact-based sourced questions.
Then if they, you know, as long as they gave each other room to breathe and and took the time somewhat seriously, I just let them go.
I stayed out of it.
Yeah, you did a you did a really good job.
The fact that that you let it breathe was was awesome.
You kind of let it let it mature, I guess, so to speak, in in its own way.
You let them talk, and and that was that was it was really good at times.
It kind of got hectic, but that added to it because you can kind of feel both of them.
We're we're passionate about it.
It was it was awesome.
Uh, we that part was real, and that's why I th I think this that debates like this are important to have, and yeah, some it's got sometimes they're gonna have a little bit of talk over, and and that's natural.
Uh it certainly wasn't boring.
It certainly wasn't dull.
Um, it certainly was relevant.
Um, And even though maybe your friends, you know, don't like me or agree with me or whatever.
I'm I'm glad they watched it.
I will tell you this that when we added up the total time, Avan Newsom got more time than Ron DeSantis in the end.
So not very many people know that you, you and uh Newsom actually like are friendly, like outside of politics.
So when they see, you know, they when they're like, oh, he's getting biased and stuff he's like, well, did you guys know that they're actually friendly out outside of the show.
They gotta you gotta give them credit for showing up.
You really do.
You gotta give them credit for jumping in the octagon.
I give them a lot of credit for that.
Um and you know that that's all part it's part of the game.
I'm like when I saw him yesterday I said oh uh are you gonna say how many times over under are you gonna say two on one today so but I appreciate your kind words I'm glad you watched tell your friends I said hello and and I I hope they enjoyed it um 800 941 Sean is our number at the top of the hour.
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These weeks flying on by.
Happy Friday to everybody.
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