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If you want to be a part of the program, I see most of you want to talk about last night's debate, which I've got to be honest, I had a great time with.
We'll get to our friend Joe Concha, who by far is the best media journalist in the country and the fairest and the only one that's not part of the, you know, ex blue check mark Twitter cult, which is like basically a bunch of media.
Oh, I'll follow you if you follow me.
I'll retweet you if you retweet me.
And it's all, you know, basically a bunch of mind-numb mob media folks that all think the same.
Joe actually usually has a contrarian point of view, which makes him stand out so much.
Let me play a couple of cuts from last night.
This is Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis debating the issue of taxes and debating the issue of closures during COVID.
And then the next one, which I really tried to pin Gavin down on the issue of supporting a ban or where would he support any law restricting abortion?
And he just didn't really want to answer and ended with the decision should be up to the mother and her doctor, which means no restrictions.
Listen.
California has lower taxes, lower than 32 states for working families in the middle class.
Significantly lower taxes.
You support a 6% income tax.
Immigrants' progressive taxes that advantage billionaires and millionaires over working families and the working poor.
People in his state pay more taxes in the low end than we tax people on the highway.
How does that $7 a gallon gas help working people?
That doesn't help working people at all.
How does paying an 8% sales tax help working people?
That doesn't help working people at all.
They have the highest taxes in the nation.
People flee to be able to save money to get out of California.
And you have working class people that move to these other states.
Their dollars go much further.
But here's the thing.
They want to take this by dynamics and they want to double down on this for the next four years.
How many people are able to afford groceries now compared to what you were doing three or four years ago?
I talked to people, you know, I talked to a woman who had a cart full of groceries going in and they're ringing it up.
And it got to be so expensive, she has to take a lot of this stuff out.
That didn't used to be the case.
People used to be able to work hard and get ahead.
That is not true under Joe Biden.
And, you know, when I have people that come to Florida, they tell me, you know, you guys actually want us to succeed in Florida.
And they feel like when they're in California, they don't want business to succeed.
The Tampa Bay race?
Well, actually, yeah, I think that's an interesting point with Disney because I had Disney open during COVID and we made them a fortune and we saved a lot of jobs.
You had Disney closed inexplicably for over a year.
You were not following science.
You were a lockdown governor.
You did a lot of damage to your people.
You had more kids locked out of school for a longer period of time in California than anywhere else in the country.
It was the working class kids.
It was the middle-income kids.
His kids were in private school.
They were in class in person.
I know.
He blocked people out because of the teachers' union.
He is owned by the teachers' union.
You will never cross the teacher's lecture.
This is just a lot of hype.
Lock stocking.
Let's talk about COVID.
Let's talk about your record on COVID.
You passed an emergency declaration before the state of California did.
You closed down your beaches, your bars, your restaurants.
It's a fact.
You had quarantines.
You had quarantines.
You had checkpoints all over the state of Florida.
By the way, I didn't say that.
Donald Trump laid you out on this.
Dead to right.
You did that.
You followed science.
You followed Fauci.
He followed science.
He followed Fauci.
Why did no one leave?
Hold on.
You were promoting vaccines.
You were promoting vaccines.
You even wore a mask in closing.
If it's okay with you, we'll do this.
Why were you closed?
Why do we do this in a way where we both can have it for so long?
On the issue of the extreme exception that you highlight as it relates to the issue of later term abortion, it's almost always because of a fetal anomaly, the life of the mother.
And in those rare cases, I trust, in answer your question, I trust the mother and her doctor to make that decision.
So in other words, I want to be clear on this.
If a woman and her doctor, for any reason, extremely rare.
Should there be, I know where you guys are going, Sean.
You're even on with this whole issue.
And I watched your question to cover for the abortion agenda of Ron DeFi.
Should there be a lot of people just in seventh, eighth, or ninth month?
If the mother's life is not in jeopardy.
Extreme, extreme exception.
People aren't going on and having abortion.
Should it be illegal?
As something desperate is happening.
Should it be illegal?
Should it be up to the mother and her doctor and her conscience?
And it always answered it.
All right, joining us now with his analysis, author of the bestseller.
Come on, man.
Anyway, Fox News contributor.
Joe and media, I don't know, what do you say?
Media monitor?
I mean, you're not like any of the other media guys.
Look at the two.
Did you see the two books that came out on Fox that neither one of them in their debut week sold 4,000 Humpty Dumpties being an absolute disaster?
Did you see that?
It is amazing that the aforementioned former CNN media correspondent, he was on multiple networks, prime time shows.
They threw a book party for him where everybody shows up.
It gets all this hype, and he isn't even – we're only two weeks removed from when his book came out, Sean.
He's not even the top 1,000 rankings at this point.
He was like last week, like 7,000.
I mean, I'm like, wow, that is so beyond embarrassing.
I think I'd literally put my head in the sand and never take it out again.
It's been a tough go for Mr. Stelter at this point because obviously getting fired from CNN.
Harvard hired him to be a professor along with Bill de Blasio and Laurie Lightfoot.
So scratch that off as far as what schools my kids are going to.
We're going down south.
I want the warm weather in the SEC football anyway.
But imagine this.
He loses his job.
Then he writes this book about Fox that has complete and total fabrications in them based on sources that I doubt even exist.
And it goes to his credibility.
When you can't even break the top 100 with all those TV appearances that he did to promote the book, that tells you that people aren't buying what he's selling.
I mean, and you're right.
I mean, he was all over the media.
Print media seem to love it because it's an anti-Fox book, just like they love the Michael Wolf book.
You know, I never read these books.
I just, people will send me a picture of a page or an excerpt that has something to do with me, and I'll peruse it and just throw it in the garbage.
I'm like, none of this is true.
I'm like, they just print this stuff or make this stuff up.
It's pretty amazing.
Listen, I just want you to be blunt.
I don't care what the grade is.
What did you think of the debate?
I love your thoughts.
It rated very well last night, and I'm happy about that part of it, especially up against the Cowboys that had a great game down of the wire and the finale of the Golden Bachelor that's been raiding through the roof.
So, you know, we were up against pretty stiff competition.
But so I'm really happy with how it came out.
But it's not why I do this.
I do it because I love my country, and I think this is an important discussion for the country.
And that was my real motivation from the get-go.
What were your thoughts?
This was unprecedented.
This was history.
We have not seen two governors from major states, one of which is not even, you know, at least officially, a presidential candidate in Gavin Newsom.
And you see a debate like this that was based on policy, based on data, the things that are important to people in California, Florida, and the rest of the country, boiling down to one simple question.
Do you want this country, the United States of America, to look like California, or do you want it to look like Florida?
And what I was telling Dana Perino earlier when we were discussing the debate and everything that went on, I said, I just wish I could see this more, that it sets some sort of precedent, where I could have Glenn Young, Republican, Virginia governor, taking on Gretchen Whitmer, Democrat, Michigan, or Brian Kemp, Georgia, Republican, taking on J.B. Pritzker over in Illinois, Democrat.
Wouldn't it be great if this became a regular thing, like Town Halls would become a regular thing?
But Gavin Newsom, this is where I get him credit.
He has the moxie and the ego and the confidence to do a debate like this that almost no other Democratic governor would even think of doing because they don't have the facts on their side.
And that's what I came away with.
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The way I approach this, Joe, was very simple, and I told each side how I would approach it.
I was very transparent.
I said, it's going to be the fundamentals.
I want this to be about a debate about the issues that impact the people in their respective states.
But it's also every state.
I think people forget that state laws, state regulations, state policy, local government, state government, it can have a much greater impact on our day-to-day lives than anything that happens in Washington, D.C.
That to me is why it was important.
Now, whether we were talking about COVID policy or immigration policy or economic policy or taxation, I can run the gamut here.
Every single one of those issues we were delving into.
Now, the amount of work and fact-checking that went into that debate was so intense, I can't even describe it to you because I knew if I got one thing wrong, I'd get hammered.
The only thing I've gotten hammered on is the fact that I brought up the truth.
They're not questioning the facts that I put on the screen because I felt I had a duty to my audience, as always, to get the facts right.
And we did, and no one's complaining about that.
You know, just hearing some whining and complaining from people on the left, I think, because maybe they didn't feel that the facts were on Gavin's side.
And Gavin didn't exactly tell the truth throughout this debate.
I mean, he said, and I'm quoting here, quote, it's a factual lie that the state of California has the highest tax rates.
It's like, well, no, you go by the tax foundation and it shows that California is among the very highest in terms of taxation and Florida is among the lowest.
Obviously, they don't have a state income tax.
So probably more people want to live in a state like that than California where it's 13.3%.
So when he said that, I just kind of shook my head and said, oh, my goodness.
I mean, you can't possibly believe that.
But when he accused DeSantis of being a, quote, lockdown governor and claimed that DeSantis kept the state closed too long.
I remember the media coverage of DeSantis when he reopened beaches and businesses, and he was getting killed for it.
There was literally a guy walking around on CNN dressed as a Grim Reaper accusing DeSantis of killing people for reopening businesses.
Turns out he was right.
While California, as recently as 2022, just last year, still had a mass mandate in place that Gavin Newsom did not follow at the French laundry restaurant, did not follow at the Super Bowl in Los Angeles.
So when he said those things, again, data and argument was on DeSantis' side.
And obviously, I think a lot of people probably came away with this and said, yeah, I'd rather my country resemble Florida a lot more than California, based on economy and crime and education, immigration, a big, big component there as well.
And all the other things that were talked about.
But it was focused on policy and it wasn't the food fight that I think some people were hoping for.
Yeah, they got a little personal at times, but it was certainly civilized.
And I commend both men for that.
Look, I'm with you.
I think that more of this rather than less would be a good thing.
Anything that you saw or maybe you wanted to see that you didn't see?
Anything I didn't, let me think about that.
Anything I saw that I anything I wanted to see that I didn't see.
All the topics were solid because you looked at Gallup and what's most important to voters in terms of priorities, and you covered the top seven.
So I can't say that didn't happen.
I wish it could have gone longer, quite frankly.
It almost did.
Really?
Now, did Mrs. Newsom stop the debate?
I keep reading that, but I want to see if you could confirm that or not.
I'm only going to say somebody came in and was very vocal.
I don't know who it was.
I didn't see it.
So I've read what you have read.
Listen, I'll be honest, lovely, lovely.
You know, first person, I think they call her in California.
I want to get it right.
I don't want to get, I want to say it the right way.
Oh, God.
But yeah, I mean, but whatever.
She's a great mom, great person, wonderful family.
I thought it was interesting when Ron DeSantis said, yeah, your in-laws live within my state.
They left your state to live in mine and donated to his campaign.
I'm like, whoa.
Yeah, that was a zinger.
The poop map, obviously, was very telling given the homeless poverty situation in San Francisco.
So sometimes you walk away with debates from debates, I should say, and you have one or two lines that really stick out, right?
Obviously, Lloyd Benson with Dan Quayle.
You know, you know, John F. Kennedy, right?
Or obviously Reagan with Mondale saying he's not going to allow his opponent's age to dictate experience, I believe, is what he said, you know, decides what's going to happen.
And obviously here, I think the poop map, certainly that's the image that you see the most.
But here's my fear, Sean, that next year we may not have any general election debates between the GOP nominee who looks like it's going to be Trump and Joe Biden because the RNC is already saying we don't want to do any debates that are handled by the current Commission on Presidential Debates.
And then I could totally see Biden doing this, that Trump is beneath him and it's beneath the presidency to allow Donald Trump to have such a stage with Joe Biden.
And I could see him backing out the same way Katie Hobbs backed out against Kerry Lake.
And that's my fear that debates are going to become more of the exception than the norm.
And we can't have enough debates in this country, in my opinion.
I kind of agree with you.
And even if times that they get a little messy or loud or interruptive, let the people decide what they want to see.
But clearly there was interest in it.
Anyway, Joe, we always love having you.
Joe Concha, author, bestseller, come on, man, Fox News contributor.
Joe, thanks for being with us.
Have a great weekend.
You too, sir.
Have a good one.
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What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Nafak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Lock her up.
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Hey there, I'm Mary Catherine Hamm.
And I'm Carol Markowitz.
We've been in political media for a long time.
Long enough to know that it's gotten, well, a little insane.
That's why we started Normally, a podcast for people who are over the hysteria and just want clarity.
We talk about the issues that actually matter to the country without panic, without yelling, and with a healthy dose of humor.
We don't take ourselves too seriously, but we do take the truth seriously.
So if you're into common sense, sanity, and some occasional sass.
You're our kind of people.
Catch new episodes of Normally every Tuesday and Thursday.
On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen.
I'm Ben Ferguson.
And I'm Ted Cruz.
Three times a week, we do our podcast, Verdict with Ted Cruz.
Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.
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What I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi.
Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?
Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.
It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.
Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?
Bad faith political warfare and frankly, bullshit.
We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.
You put two and two together.
Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?
Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.
I'm Leon Nayfak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries.
This is Fiasco, Benghazi.
What difference at this point does it make?
Yes, that's right.
Lock her up.
Listen to Fiasco, Benghazi, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Oh, man, we got so much to get to.
Long Island, New York, Christine is next.
Sean Hannity Show.
Hey, Christine, how are you?
Hey, Sean.
Last night's debate was terrific.
I couldn't have enjoyed it better.
I'm glad you didn't go the extra time, but it was good.
You had had enough by that point?
That's funny.
I definitely had enough with Newsom interrupting.
That's why I'm only giving you an A, not an A plus, because I think you should have hit his microphone.
He was interrupting way, way, way too much.
I promise you, I tried my best.
I really did.
I know.
I saw that.
But he, you know, he was interrupting because he didn't have a point.
So that's what you do when you don't have points.
You talk, you know, they were talking over each other.
That happens in every debate.
I think DeSantis did very well.
I still think that abortion issue at six weeks is going to kill him.
I think it's a huge issue.
Not for me, but it's a huge issue for other people.
And you stay at six weeks and women don't even know they're pregnant at six weeks.
So the Democrats use that as a talking point and they lump all Republicans into what DeSantis is saying.
So it's probably on that hard-hitting news show, as you call it.
The hard-hitting news show, The View on ABC.
You know, look, you know where I stand on my belief on pro-life.
Now, I'm speaking, and I've always said abortion is a hard issue.
And that's why I'm so glad to have partnered with Pre-Born.
And I put my money where my mouth is.
I've purchased some of these 4D ultrasound machines because they're using the science of 4D ultrasound that they give for free to any expecting mom.
And people are choosing life when they are introduced to the miracle of birth inside them.
But with that said, putting all of my views aside, and I look at this objectively, politically, the country is not where you are and where I might be.
They're just not.
No, and that's what scare, you know, that's what it is about DeSantis.
He's never going to win with six weeks.
He's just not.
And when one Republican says something, like I said before, we all get lumped into that.
So the Democrats use it as a talking point.
So that, and also the other issue was the other Santa span issue was, oh, the books, when, you know, the book bans.
And everyone says that DeSantis is a homophobe.
He doesn't like trans people and everything else.
No, he just didn't want trans people reading to kindergartners.
That's, you know, the.
It was K through third grade.
And I read the statute on the show last night, the so-called don't say gay bill that doesn't even have the word gay in it.
And all it talked about was sexual, all it talked about was age-appropriate materials for kids through K through third grade.
And then I read some of the books, quote, that had been banned that the left talks about, and they do not belong in schools for our kids, especially when in many, many states and districts, although Florida is ranked number one by U.S. News and World Report, and they educate their kids a lot more cheaply than in California.
I will tell you, people need to understand the issue.
Let's focus on reading, writing, math, science, history, computers.
I think we'd be better off.
Let the parents, let religious institutions instill the values that the parents want, not have their values contradicted by some bureaucrat in a public school system.
Well, Newsom's answer to that was they're not in the curriculum.
So that was his answer.
Those books aren't part of the curriculum, but that doesn't matter if they're in the library.
So, you know, Newsom's answers to everything, even the border.
I mean, you were trying your best to get an answer out of him about the border.
He didn't answer whether the border was open or not.
He just launched into how the Republicans won't sign Biden's legislation, which I don't even know about what Biden proposed.
All right.
So he proposed three.
And this is Gavin's answer every time.
He says, well, I want immigration, comprehensive immigration reform.
And I'm like, okay, that's great.
It's not happening.
Joe can't get it done.
And it's not going to happen this year.
And in the meantime, we have open borders.
What do you do in the interim to solve that problem?
And, you know, it's a nice talking point as all these unvetted illegal immigrants keep coming into our country.
And as I pointed out from China, Russia, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Egypt, everyone needs to be vetted.
If you're in the middle of a pandemic, you need a health check.
And frankly, with $34 trillion in debt, we also need people to show that they'll be able to take care of themselves and not be a burden on the American taxpayer.
Those would be my conditions for people to come into the country.
Anyway, good call.
I appreciate it, Christine.
God bless you.
Have a great weekend in Long Island, 800-941.
Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, Andy is in the great state of California.
Oh, maybe once great state.
What's going on?
Hey, Sean.
Yeah, my wife and I watched the debate last night as well, and you did a great job.
But on the alternative, we were screaming at the TV how much lies spew out of Gavin Newsom.
I've been in California.
I'm 63 years old, down here when I was four years old from Colorado.
And we've seen our state just deteriorate.
It's a joke when he says things about our crime is 50% less.
And I'm in the oil business as well.
I'm surrounded by oil fields.
People don't know that California, Bakersfield, California is one of the biggest oil fields in the country.
We produced a lot of oil at one time, and all our oil fields are dying out here.
He's not letting us drill wells.
We have thousands of literally jobs.
And I've been in some oil fields since I was right out of high school, 17 and a half years old, 63 years old.
I made a great living.
I see a lot of $100,000-plus dollar-a-year jobs just fleeing out of California.
Even the younger guys that are coming to the oil industry are looking for plan A, B, and C because they know what is on the horizon.
These are all high-paying career jobs, and we could be the most energy-dominant country on the face of the earth.
That would make us the most energy-rich country on the face of the earth.
We could pay off our debt, not burden our children and grandchildren, create jobs, and it impacts on national security by not relying on foreign countries.
I mean, it's unreal.
I mean, you're laying it out perfectly, but they keep putting restrictions on your industry to make it impossible.
Drilling is my bit my biggest customer now is in Texas because the majority of the engineers and a lot of the foremans that have left California based on our political environment are moving to Texas.
I go to the Permian Basin, and I see it looks in the Permian Basin like Bakersfield used to look like back in the 70s, 80s, and 90s.
Work equipment everywhere, everybody making a good living.
Bakersfield used to be a very conservative town.
Obviously, with the open borders, we're losing that stronghold.
But we just see the deterioration of our own town.
We're surrounded by oil and agriculture, and the oil industry is dying.
As a matter of fact, one of the plants I'm going to right now to meet some customers, it's called a DEHI, where they separate oil and water.
Ten years ago, they were pumping 73,000 barrels a day out of that one plant and selling it, and now it's 23,000 barrels a day.
And so that even that oil company, all the major producers left, well, are leaving or on a track to get out of here, and all the employees are leaving.
It's sad.
And you show up on last night, you showed our California average oil is, what, $4.85 a gallon?
That's not correct.
I just paid $6 yesterday.
Well, I'm going with the state average that's put out, but I have to source everything.
I was out there, and I saw gas as high as $7 a gallon.
Listen, you're making great points, Andy.
I can't dispute it.
I hope people hear you.
We can go in the opposite direction.
That means winning next November.
Have a great weekend.
Appreciate the call.
Julie in Austin, Texas.
Hey, Julie, how are you?
Good.
Well, first, I wanted to tell you that when I lived in Atlanta in the mid-'90s, your radio show helped to reshape my political philosophy.
Oh, wow.
And, of course, I always loved hearing stories about Snowball, your B-Shot.
Oh, I miss my little Snowball.
That was my first dog ever, and ever since I was a little kid, I'd always wanted a dog.
Snowball was a little terror, though.
I mean, I had to be careful with Snowball because she liked to bite a few people, kind of like Joe Biden's dog.
But unlike Joe, I actually protected everybody from her.
Well, regarding the debates, I think your first fact-based blue state to red state migration question pretty much epitomized the rest of the debate.
I mean, Newsom, obviously, we've already heard from many of the callers and all the pundits today.
Newsom did not answer any of the questions directly.
I mean, you even asked them twice, three times, you can't make anybody answer questions.
if they don't want to and turning off the mic you know i i said the same thing turn off the mic but if you do that then it makes you look bad so you have to play that you know that kind of that balancing act which you did very very well but i listen i tried my best i really i did not want to be a home monitor but if if somebody you ask a question and somebody just goes off on an entirely different tangent i try to rein them back in give them another chance to answer at Point, you just know they're not going to answer.
Well, what I loved about that first question was, yes, it showed his true stripes.
I mean, he already was speaking lies about, you know, California.
More Floridians migrated to California than California moved to Florida.
And you actually had the stats on the screen.
And it doesn't make any difference if he lies or not.
And apparently, half the country doesn't care about facts either.
And that's the sad thing.
You know, we've heard it over and over on people putting out stats, and they don't care.
And they don't care about all the lies that are coming out from the administration.
But what I liked about the first question also was it teed up Santos DeSantis for one of its kind of priceless moments on that interview with Newsom's father-in-law.
That is a memorable moment, and I think that kind of teed it up for DeSantis.
That was an ouch moment for sure, right?
Yes, yes, for sure.
Well, the numbers were the numbers.
In those two years that I used 2021, 2022, California lost $750,000 in terms of a mass exodus out of the state.
Never happened before in the history of California.
And the state of Florida had a net gain of just shy of 454,000 total.
Now, and by the way, I didn't make them up.
Those are Census Bureau numbers.
So we worked hard to verify, fact-check every single thing that we put up on the screen, every question we asked, and gave them an opportunity to answer it.
I don't know how do you explain that.
And then you get into the next issue I think was taxes.
And then you get into the issue of gas prices.
Then you get into the issue of homelessness and crime and guns and education.
Look, I stayed with the fundamentals.
The facts were the facts.
And even the Wall Street Journal this week, you know, they did an editorial pointing out, here are the facts.
And it's my job to ask fact-based questions on issues that I think mattered the most to people in their respective states, but also around the country.
So I think the people are very smart that watch this debate and they'll understand it.
And the people that will be watching it because it's re-airing, I think, all weekend on Fox.
One last thing.
Rumor has it, and I don't know if you can talk about this, but rumor has it that during the last commercial break with both DeSantis and Newsome, when they agreed to keep going, Newsom's wife came on stage and said no more, kind of throwing down the white flag.
Is that true?
I know somebody came in and said something.
I don't know who it was.
I've read what you have read.
I did not see it.
She was very nice when I met her.
I have nothing bad to say about her.
I just kind of chalked it up to, they shook hands.
They both shook my hand.
The governor thanked me.
And I just kind of talked it up to they seem to have other commitments that they had to get to.
I did go five minutes over the schedule time.
Didn't mean to.
If you're looking for the total time, actually, Governor Newsom got about a minute and a half, two minutes more time than Ron DeSantis.
I tried my best to keep it equal.
But so I don't know who it was.
I definitely heard somebody say we're done.
I did hear that.
I don't know who it was, though, but that's irrelevant to me.
Let the debate stand on its own.
But anyway, I do appreciate your call.
Thank you so much for being out there, Julie.
Thank you.
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