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If you want to be a part of the program, we have a lot of news out of Israel, not the least of which is Joe Biden now.
And even the New York Times reporting on this is facing deep anger among longtime supporters and young staffers in the White House and the Muslim community, which he apologized to earlier in the week.
And now the press is a full core press.
He appears, you know, to be urging Israel's military campaign to end because, you know, trying to say you've got to be more precise in fighting back.
They have done more to protect innocent lives, directly warning the people of Gaza for weeks to get out.
It is Hamas that has forced people to stay there.
It is Hamas that is using hospitals as part of their underground tunnel network and their command center.
It is Hamas that always used Gaza residents and the Palestinians as human shields.
And if there's any innocent death in this conflict, you can blame Hamas that committed acts of terror against Israel.
And what's worse is the virulent anti-Semitism continues.
Listen to this out in Oakland, residents denying that the October 7th terrorist attack even happened.
And actually in Oakland, praising Hamas.
Listen to this.
There's not been beheadings of babies and rapings.
Israel murdered their own people on October 7th.
Calling Hamas a terrorist organization is ridiculous, racist, and plays into genocidal propaganda that is flooding our media and that we should be doing everything possible to combat.
I support the right of Palestinians to resist occupation, including through Hamas, the armed wing of the unified Palestinian resistance.
As an Arab asking with this context to condemn Hamas is very anti-Arab racist.
The notion that this was a massacre of Jews is a fabricated narrative.
Many of those killed on October 7th, including children were killed by the IDF.
An amendment condemning Hamas is bald propaganda meant to a Thank you.
Your time is up.
To hear them complain about Hamas violence is like listening to a wife beater complain when his wife finally stands up and fights back.
Question.
Did anyone else notice that those who oppose this resolution are old white supremacists?
There's been a lot of atrocity propaganda ranging from claims of beheaded babies to mass rape.
Hamas is not a terrorist organization just because the U.S. and Israel deems it so.
Hamas is a resistant organization that is fighting for the liberation of Palestinian people and their land.
And you have pro-Palestinian protesters demonstrating outside of Rosalind Carter and her memorial service yesterday.
How nice of them.
Now, the pressure is real.
As I mentioned, the New York Times piece, Mark Warner saying I would urge Israel to release funds to the Palestinian Authority.
Well, when they have gotten funds in the past, that's the money that was used not to build hospitals or infrastructure or schools, but a network of hundreds of miles of terror tunnels.
That is the money that they use to buy munitions.
That is the money that they use to buy the rockets to fire into Israel.
So he says that.
Blinken says, yeah, we'd like to see the pause in Gaza extended.
And then you go to the UN, which is a history of nothing but rabid anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism.
A UN official giving a word-salad answer regarding their refusal to condemn Hamas's rapes on October 7th.
That shouldn't be hard to answer.
This is now the state of the world.
Listen.
Israel has been losing the hearts and minds of people not only in the region, but around the world.
One of the things that I would strongly urge our Israeli partners is to release some of the funds that go to the Palestinian Authority.
I've been worried even in advance of October 7th that you could have the Palestinian security services simply all quit on the West Bank and you would have chaos at an unprecedented level and a second front start on this war.
And the fact that none of those funds and none of these people have been paid since October 7th is a real challenge.
That would be a sign of good faith, I think, from Israel.
We'd like to see the pause extended because what it has enabled, first and foremost, is hostages being released.
It's also enabled us to surge humanitarian assistance into the people of Gaza who so desperately need it.
Indeed, UN Women always supports impartial, independent investigations into any serious allegations of gender-based or sexual violence.
And within the UN family, these investigations are led by the Office of the High Commissioner of Human Rights.
And just to provide a little bit of context in terms of UN women's role, UN Women specifically provides and has extensive knowledge on gender-based violence and provides and supports investigations as we do with all UN investigations.
And so consequently, in this context and within the UN system, it is the Independent International Commission of Inquiry, which for us has the mandate to investigate all alleged violations.
It is absolutely important for the rights, for the needs, for the protection, for the dignity, for the survivors of violence to be supported throughout a process.
And that's why we work through these globally mandated mechanisms.
That notwithstanding, we understand and certainly we encourage and support national level efforts, the ones that you've heard about today, the Civil Commission in Israel, which has brought together women's organizations to document gender-based atrocities impartially.
Our work will be on the backside of the Independent International Commission.
All right, joining us now is Elon Levy is with us, an Israeli government spokesperson representing the Israel on international television and radio in the war with Hamas.
You know, I couldn't believe as I was watching him, I think he was on Sky News doing an interview with some woman named Kay Burley, and Burley asked about the comparison between the numbers of hostages and the fact that Israel does not think Palestinian lives are valued as highly as Israeli lives.
Excuse me.
These are convicted terrorists in most cases, and Israel was handing over three guilty, in many cases, terrorists for one innocent baby that they took hostage.
Elon, I watched you in that interview and I couldn't believe what I saw when you were on British television.
I was shocked.
Yeah, that was really an astonishing moment for a news anchor to claim that Israel doesn't care about people's lives and to use for the evidence for that.
The fact that Israel is willing to release from jail violent criminals in order to get our innocent children out of captivity, out of being Hamas hostages, and to somehow twist that against us and make us into the bad guys, really, really outrageous.
It's what the world has been doing since October 7th, though, isn't it?
And that is blaming the victim of terrorism.
And it's shocking.
It's definitely what some people in the world have been doing since October 7th.
I mean, we've had so much international support and solidarity standing by Israel in our darkest hour as we fight to obliterate the Hamas terror regime in response to the October 7th massacre.
But sadly, yes, sometimes we see people in the best cases being quiet about Hamas's atrocities or denying Hamas's atrocities, and in the worst cases, actively and openly glorifying those brutal acts of savagery, the burnings, the beheadings, the acts of rape on October 7th.
Truly, it's impossible to get your head around.
Let me get your reaction to Joe Biden now is appearing to pressure Israel to end their military campaign in Gaza.
I've extrapolated out your population in Israel, a little over 9 million, versus the 330-some-odd million Americans.
This would be the equivalent of losing nearly 40,000 Americans in a single day.
And if any country ever, if that ever happened to our country, God forbid, and anybody ever told us that we need to not win that war, I would tell them all to shove it.
And Israel's very survival is at stake here.
Hamas's charter calls for your ultimate destruction.
This was our 9-11 and Pearl Harbor rolled into one, perpetrated by a brutal army of terror.
And that's why it's important that from day one, the U.S. has stood shoulder to shoulder with us across both parties, the administration as well, making clear the only way this war can end is with the end of Hamas.
This war has to end with Hamas completely obliterated, because otherwise it will try to repeat the same atrocities it did on October 7th.
And we're very grateful to the United States for its very solid support.
I've seen that tweet that you're referring to, and I know that the White House has also made clear that the president's support, the United States' support for our military campaign against Hamas remains unwavering.
There hasn't been a change in policy.
The United States understands Elon, I have a lot of sources in Israel, and I am being told by very knowledgeable people that what Biden is saying publicly is very different than what he's pushing privately.
Have you not heard that?
Well, we know that the president and the whole United States and especially the American people as well.
I can't tell you how much support we've been receiving from the American people have been clear that Israel has every right to defend itself.
But if something like this had happened to the United States, the response would be, I think the president said, swift, decisive, and overwhelming.
And that's what we are going to continue doing because we know that we're fighting for humanity, Sean.
We know that we're fighting for humanity in the most basic sense of the right of babies not to be abducted from their beds and taken as hostages.
But we're on the front lines of civilization here because if this war ends with the jihadi terrorists who perpetrated October 7th, knowing they can get away with it, knowing they're free to perpetrate these atrocities again, knowing they can attack the Israeli people again and the world will stop Israel from defending itself.
Well, that's only going to empower and give strength to Islamist extremists and violent terrorists all around the world.
And so we know that we're fighting the world's fight here.
All right, quick break.
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All right, we continue now with A. Lon Levy.
He is an Israeli government spokesperson.
Let me play this exchange that you had with this British TV anchor, and your answer I thought was superb.
Listen.
I was speaking to a hostage negotiator this morning.
He made the comparison between the 50 hostages that Hamas has promised to release, as opposed to the 150 prisoners that are Palestinians that Israel has said that it will release.
And he made the comparison between the numbers and the fact that does Israel not think that Palestinian lives are valued as highly as Israeli lives?
That is an astonishing accusation.
If we could release one prisoner for every one hostage, we would obviously do that.
We are operating in horrific circumstances.
We're not choosing to release these prisoners who have blood on their hands.
We are talking about people who have been convicted of stabbing and shooting attacks.
The question I have, look, I'll be very honest with you.
My head tells me that making a deal like this with a terror group like Hamas and having a pause in the fighting, it worries me.
It worries me that, number one, it'll increase hostage taking.
Number two, it gives them time to resupply and reconfigure their military strategy.
That makes winning your war that much more difficult.
And on the other hand, I have a heart and I sympathize with every Israeli family.
And if a family member of mine were held hostage, I would want the pause in the fighting to get my relatives back.
And I probably would make the same decision.
Although in my head, I know that it's going to help Hamas militarily.
We're in an awful situation.
There are no good options on the table, only less bad options.
We're making a calculated risk.
Obviously, we know that there is a risk in releasing violent criminals from jail.
But at the same time, Hamas brutally abducted 240 people on October 7th.
They abducted little babies.
There's a nine-month-old baby, now 10 months old.
Hamas is claiming was in fact killed and may be dead now in the Gaza Strip.
Many Americans will be familiar with the story of little Abigail Idan, a joint U.S.-Israeli citizen whose parents were both brutally massacred on October 7th, and she was held as a hostage for 50 days.
And we have a moral responsibility as a country to do everything to get those people home.
There is no reality in which we can make our peace with abandoning little children in the hands of, sorry, I'm putting it this way, the pedophile rapists who perpetrated those barbaric acts of savagery on October 7th.
We know they are not safe in their hands, and that's why we're having to make very difficult decisions in order to get our people back so that the Israeli people know that if anyone tries to hurt a hair on their head, this country is going to go to the ends of the earth to bring them home.
And we will go to the ends of the earth to bring their perpetrators to justice.
This isn't the end of the story.
We've been very clear.
Every Hamas terrorist, wherever they are, is a dead man walking.
And we will settle the score with all of them.
Good news.
There's only one, if you talked about Winston Churchill, what is our aim?
Victory.
Victory at all costs against a monstrous tyranny.
Sadly, history is a good thing.
And we will fight them at the beaches.
We will fight them in the titles.
We will fight them everywhere in Gaza.
And I hope and I pray that you win and win big.
Thank you very much.
Levy, you're in the prayers of this audience, that I can tell you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I truly appreciate that.
Thank you very much.
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A lot of interest in the debate tomorrow night.
I'm really just listening today.
I have done the majority of my prep, but I am listening closely to what's on your mind to make sure that I'm not missing anything.
I don't want to miss anything.
Let's say hi to Mark.
He's in Texas.
Hey, Mark, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
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What's going on, Sean?
Oh, man, the man, the myth, the legend.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Yeah, man.
Well, I mean, he was actually part of the whole reason why I got into like being a political junkie was listening to your radio show for years.
So, yeah.
I'm very honored, my friend.
Thank you.
Well, it was always back, then Rush, then you.
So as far as the way I listen to it.
Anyway, let me get to my point.
I know you got a busy thing going on.
I just, I wanted to voice my opinion more than anything about this whole debate between DeSantis and Newsom.
I don't understand why you and so many other people are trying to push forward this whole thing between them two whenever I feel like, and a lot of people I know too, feel like we need to, everybody needs to get behind Trump with everything that's going on in the country and the political persecution that he's going through.
That right now is a time for everybody to rally around Trump and not be trying to push forward anybody else.
Why are you seeing this differently than it's even being billed?
I mean, very clearly, I'm calling it a red state, blue state debate.
And by the way, I've made the point many times today.
How many policies on the state level have a greater impact on your life than what the federal government does?
So we can walk and chew gummy here.
In other words, we can follow what states are doing and also follow this presidential campaign.
The president has a pretty massive lead right now.
I'll be with him next week in Iowa for a town hall.
So I'm not giving up on my coverage of that.
I'm trying to understand why you don't see the importance of what states do to us and what their policies, what their laws, what their regulations, the impact it has on our lives.
No, I absolutely see the importance on it.
I think it starts at the local level and that that's part of the reason, one of the main reasons why we are where we are as a country is because people don't pay attention to the local and the state and what's going on.
Right.
So you're criticizing people for not paying attention.
I'm calling attention to it and then you're criticizing me.
I'm not criticizing you.
I mean, I guess a little bit, but when has there ever...
That's all right, that's all right.
I can learn.
Go ahead.
Well, when has there ever been a debate between two governors during a presidential election cycle where everybody knows that Joe Biden's most likely not going to be the nominee?
And we already know that DeSantis is trying to run to take the spot.
So, I mean, it's pretty clear what's actually going on with that, in my opinion, humble opinion, of my opinion.
You're basically saying the way, well, this first of all happened organically.
I didn't plan for this to happen in the sense that when I interviewed Gavin Newsom, I went in with an agenda.
Oh, I'm going to get him to debate Governor DeSantis.
But in the course of me interviewing him, I did make comparisons between Florida and California.
And at one point, it became a natural question, do you want to debate Governor DeSantis?
He said yes.
I asked Governor DeSantis.
He said yes.
And here we are.
I mean, that's about how much thought went into it.
And then, of course, getting the details together was a little more difficult, but we got it done.
Well, why don't you have the, I've got my names mixed up, Newsom and Trump debate.
I'd love to do that debate.
If Donald Trump wants to do that debate, I'd do it in a second.
I'm not in that.
Hey, brother, I got your back.
My whole thing is I just think that where we're at.
Let me tell you something.
If you believe that Joe Biden is not going to be the nominee, and maybe some people disagree with me, you better know that Gavin is right there at the top of the list with Kamala Harris as a potential replacement.
Now, I don't know if Joe's going to be the nominee.
Nobody can say for sure if he's going to be the nominee in November of 2024.
I think Democrats are scared to death of him being the nominee, but it's also a very challenging, difficult task to get him to bow out.
And unless he bows out, I think they're going to have a hard time kicking him out.
So he has not shown any indication that he wants to get out of that office.
He can't even complete a sentence or walk up a flight of stairs.
So, I mean, you know, I think he couldn't do that in 2020 either, but he still, you know, ran and got elected.
Probably don't want to talk about it.
And I know you don't have time, but we could go down the election integrity route there.
But in the whole COVID and, you know, anyway, the whole legislation.
I've made my opinions on all that known over and over again.
Look, I'm just telling you, just pay attention.
America needs Republicans and conservatives.
Don't put your head in the sand is what I'm saying.
Know what potentially you could be dealing with down the line.
And at that point, I think it's good for people to know.
Look, on a personal level, if I introduce you to Newsom, you'd like him.
I promise you.
And then you talk policy, and he'd probably smile and make fun of your policies.
You'd make fun of his policies.
So he's got that going for him.
He's almost like central casting for a politician.
If you were going to do a remake of the American president that starred, what, Mike Douglas, he could play that role perfectly.
So anyway, I appreciate your input.
I really do appreciate your call.
Thanks for being out there.
Thanks for your support.
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Hey, Annie, how are you?
Hey, Sean.
Thanks for taking my call.
Hey, I'm- I'm jealous because you could go stop by Krownberger today, and I can't.
So I'm jealous.
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All right.
Well, you just, if there was a way I could mail you on, I would.
Look, like the prior caller and a lot of here on the station, it's Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
Yesterday, Nikki Haley, who is currently really surging in the polls, got a very big endorsement from the Koch group, which coke group is what it is.
It's spelled K-O-C-H, so I understand.
The multi-billionaires, big donor class, yes.
Yeah.
And, you know, you know, I like her.
I think she's highly electable in the general election.
And I say that because I have friends of different political beliefs or whatever.
And when I get people to sit down and watch the debate, she's very likable from independents and moderate Democrats and some conservatives that I know really well.
So I want to know how you think this might change things now that she has this large endorsement.
You know, you're asking a great question.
Here's the question to answer your question.
Is there a disconnect between the base of the Republican Party, and I think we see in every poll, leans very heavily towards Donald Trump.
Is there a disconnect between the donor class in the Republican Party that doesn't like Donald Trump and the base of the party, the people that'll go out and pull the lever for Donald Trump?
Do you see a disconnect?
When I look at it strategically, and I'm very afraid for this country of us as Republicans, conservatives, not winning the presidential.
When I look at it strategically, I say who in the general is electable.
And I know people that have voted Republican their whole lives a lot longer than me, and they will not vote for Donald Trump.
And so my concern is, I think there's a lot of people that talk about loyalty and they want to stick with him.
But my concern is we're going to make this guy win in the primary and he's not going to be able to win in the general.
And we're shooting ourselves in the foot by doing that.
And I think that's the real disconnect.
I've heard all the arguments.
I don't have a crystal ball.
I can tell.
On a personal level, I could tell you Nikki Haley is lovely, great lady.
I've interviewed her many times.
She's smart.
I think she's shown a lot of growth on the campaign trail.
I think it's really down at this point is Donald Trump has a big lead.
And I think there are people desperately that don't want him that are going to spend a lot of money to try and help her campaign.
In the beginning, I think they were tending to lean towards Governor DeSantis.
I don't know if that's going to change or shift.
Maybe the results out of the Iowa caucus, which is 40-some odd days away, will have an impact on where the money goes.
I don't know.
But I would say that Donald Trump is a heavy favorite going into the primaries in the caucus season.
No doubt about it.
And at that point, if the choice is radical socialism and a president that doesn't know what day of the week it is versus a guy that I think had the most successful policies in the modern era, I think people will go with the guy that maybe occasionally pisses them off or brings, you know, sends out a few mean tweets over somebody whose policies I don't believe are working at all.
I can't name a single policy of Joe Biden that's working.
And if people hate Donald Trump that much that they would help re-elect Joe Biden, who is hurting the country on every policy, that's on them.
Anyway, Annie, good call.
Appreciate it.
Love our friends in Utah.
Say hi to Rod Arquette for me.
Michael's in Texas.
Hey, Michael, how are you?
Sean, it's an honor.
What I wanted to talk about, I'd heard you mention the gas prices the other day.
Here in Amarilla and Canyon, Texas Canyon, just a little south of Amarilla, prices are all over the place.
Some stations have gas real low, but they jack the diesel up.
Other stations have the diesel lower and the gas higher.
What looks like is a shell game with the Dems.
You know, they're trying to lower gas prices prior to the election, kind of fool people, whatever.
But a lot of people are not going to think about the fact that diesel powers our trucks, our trains, our planes, brings our goods to market.
You know, so in the long run, you're still paying these ridiculous gas prices no matter what.
No, listen, you're that's what I kind of like about that website, Gas Buddies, that helps you find the cheapest gas when you're out on the road.
And I know truckers are using it.
You know, trucking has been in a recession-near depression lately.
I mean, I don't think people have paid attention to how many trucking companies have gone out of business, even companies that have been around for 99 years.
And now you have states talking about regulations and the feds talking about regulations that they've got to be all electric rigs, you know, in the next 10 years in some cases.
It's insane because they can't afford it.
And meanwhile, we want to go to a store and we want the store shelves to be full.
Well, everything we get at every store we go to is brought there by a truck.
So they better not burden these guys any further or else there's not going to be anybody that's going to want to do any trucking or they're going to charge so much for it that nobody's going to be able to want to pay the prices for the goods that will be passed on to us.
Anyway, I appreciate the call, man.
Thank you.
800-941-Sean is our number.
Gavin, Louisiana.
Well, no, Scott in Texas.
I meant to get to you, Scott.
How are you?
You get the last 90 seconds.
Go.
Oh, doing great, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good, sir.
Oh, good, good, good.
I want to talk to you.
You know, for years and years, we've talked about Hunter Biden.
I've heard it for, you know, years and years and years.
And so, of course, the Republicans talk about being the party of transparency.
But now that Hunter wants to have a public hearing, it seems like the Republicans are kind of running scared.
So what is your view on the public hearing for Hunter?
You couldn't be any more wrong.
James Comer was on my show last night.
He's willing to have a public hearing, but when you get a subpoena, that's an order.
And that means he's to be deposed and deposed first.
And by the way, the same rules apply to Steve Bannon, and he was held in contempt.
The same thing happened to Peter Navarro.
He was held in contempt.
But the law compels you to comply.
Now, I don't blame Hunter's attorney, who's a very good attorney by the name of Abby Lowell.
I don't blame him for saying, well, no, we want it to be public and we don't want to do the deposition behind closed doors.
No, he can have the public hearing after he does the legally binding and upholds the subpoena, which compels you to comply.
You don't get to dictate the terms.
He's not above the law.
And so he's been subpoenaed to give a deposition and provide certain materials.
And this is where the penetrating questions of smart investigators, that's where they would confront him instead of just putting on a show and avoiding what the law requires.
And then after that point, James Comer said, sure, we'll do a public hearing after.
No problem.
But it's got to first, you have to comply with the subpoena.
All right.
Listen, I got a roll, though.
I'm just out of time, but I do appreciate your call.
I hope you understood that answer.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
And we have a great show tonight.
We're expecting pro-quote Hamas protesters at the Rockefeller Tree lighting tonight.
We'll have our reporters on the ground there.
Also, Lindsey Graham, Governor Noam, James Comer, Jim Jordan, and Jason Smith.
How are these investigations going?
We'll get to preview of our big debate.
Ari Fleischer, Doug Schoen, Brian Bremberg, and Jimmy Fela.
Said EDBR tonight, Hannity 9 Eastern on the Fox News channel tomorrow from Alpharetta, Georgia, the site of the big debate.
Ron DeSantis, Governor Newsome, hope you'll join us.
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Thank you for making this show possible.
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