Joe Concha and Sean Spicer - September 29th, Hour 2
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You know, it's pretty unbelievable the flat-out, you know, denialism, lying, flat-earthers that are, you know, this administration and the mob and the media.
Oh, the border is closed.
The border is secure.
The border's closed.
The border's secure.
And they say it and they say it and they say it and say it.
I'm just so sick of being lied to on such a deep, profound level.
Your eyes are not lying to you.
What you see is very, very real, sadly, because it's a full-on disaster caused by the open borders, aiding and abetting lack of enforcing our laws, policies of Joe Biden, but not according to Corinne Jean-Pierre.
No, the board has never been more secure than under Joe Biden.
To the charge from the Congresswoman that the White House hasn't taken up recommendations from fellow Democrats on how to deal with this issue more through executive action or otherwise because of concerns of how Republicans might react, you would say what?
I would say this.
The president has done more to secure the border and to deal with this issue of immigration than anybody else.
He really has.
He's done more than anybody else.
Does anybody in America, does any even liberal Democrat, the liberalist of Democrats, do they believe this crap?
Because that's what it is.
It's a lie.
It's just total BS.
And I'm fed up with it.
And the American people are caught, the cost, the burden associated with this is in the tens and tens and tens and tens of billions of dollars that we can no longer afford.
By the way, they would be essential workers at the border if they were doing their job, if they were enabled and powered to do their job.
You know, it was interesting.
Last night, Greg Abbott was in New York City.
You think the governor of New York wants to meet with New York?
No.
You think the mayor of New York wants to meet with the governor?
No.
You know, if they want to know what a real border problem looks like, they need to get their ass on an airplane and fly down to Texas and go into these border towns.
Then they might learn a lesson.
And frankly, if it was possible, I'd charter enough jets and drop them all in New York.
Anyway, here's Abbott last night on my TV show.
What you're dealing with in New York, what you are seeing and witnessing in the state, is a tiny fraction of what is happening every single day in the state of Texas.
It's not even close, but yet New York's paying $40,000 per illegal immigrant, putting them in five-star hotels, taking soccer fields, ball fields away from kids, putting them in communities with no vetting, no background, no checks at all whatsoever.
You know, even Elon Musk, I find Elon Musk very interesting.
You know, he's wickedly smart, probably eccentric.
A lot of really bright, smart people are.
But his curiosity has gotten the better of him.
And to his credit, he says he's visiting Eagle Pass, Texas.
He wants to see for himself what the hell's going on.
Listen to this.
Yeah, so here we are at Eagle Pass, and we're going to be meeting with the sort of the major officials and Lawrence World Spits are responsible for the border.
And you'll hear it directly from them and see exactly what's going on for yourself.
So with that, let's begin.
Yes, I'm Tony Gonzalez.
I'm a local congressman here in the district.
My district is 823 miles of the southern border, places like Eagle Pass, El Paso, Uvalde, Del Rio.
We've been at the epicenter of this border crisis.
What I really like to share is a lot of my sheriffs and local elected officials are being forgotten.
Their stories aren't getting out.
All right, joining us now to discuss on this Friday, Joe Concha, Fox News media contributor, author of the bestseller Come on Man, Sean Spicer, former press secretary for Donald Trump.
Welcome both of you to the program.
Good to talk to you both.
Sean Spicer, you know, you've been up on that podium.
By the way, why anyone would ever want that job?
I don't know.
Why you took that job?
I don't know.
You did a great job.
You got the living crap beat out of you every day.
I'm sure it made you stronger and tougher because it certainly didn't kill you because you're doing great.
But for Karine Jean-Pierre, he's done more than anybody else to make sure the border's secure.
I'm tired of being flat out lied to.
And our own eyes show us every day.
Yeah, Sean, I mean, look, this is ridiculous.
Like, I was listening to that clip as you set it up, and I thought to myself, I would have killed for one day, one day, to get away with what she gets away with every day.
The idea that you can say that with a straight face and nobody will actually push back on it.
I know Peter Ducey the other day was trying to give her a question and she tried to respond to his question with a question and said, I'm moving on.
But it's, look, Joe Concha covers this every day in terms of the media.
You hold people accountable day and night on your shows.
I cannot believe that the folks in the mainstream media who attacked myself, Donald Trump, everyone, for being liars, allow her to get away on a daily basis with saying something that's so brilliant.
Last week on CNN, Jim Acosta attacked Congressman Norman from South Carolina and said, sir, those are talking points.
And I'm thinking to myself, they're not talking points.
The border is wide open.
We can see it with our own eyes.
The video is there.
Elon Musk, as busy as that guy is, you just pointed out, has time to visit it.
And they lie to us about why the president can't go saying he's too busy.
Yeah, okay.
I don't think he's that busy.
Joe Concha, look, Sean's right.
You expose the media more than anybody.
You're the only one that's not part of the media mob blue check mark Twitter cult.
You're just not a part of it.
You stand apart because you're an honest media reporter.
And I give you a lot of, you should have your own media show on Fox, I think.
But I think I'm right.
I just, you know, if I could just get people to listen to me, no one ever listens to Hannity, trust me.
Everyone thinks, well, everyone listens to Hannity.
I'm like, no, they don't.
If they did, you know, things would be pretty different at times.
But anyway, you know, she's just flat out lying.
How many people in the mob, the ones, oh, Donald Trump told the lie?
And look at what he said about the media.
They're the enemy of the people.
And they get so worked up over any tweet, any truth social posting, or any word he says or utters at any time.
And they're not outraged that Carline Jean-Pierre's flat out lying.
She can lie, Sean, because she could get away with it.
And Sean Spicer dealt with this.
Kelly McEnany dealt with this.
Sarah Huckabee Sanders dealt with this.
When a reporter would ask a question, and let's say the press secretary under Trump would answer it and try to move on, then they would all plan beforehand to piggyback on that question and press and press and press.
We don't ever see that here.
Peter Ducey and Jackie Heinrich, they're on their own islands.
They ask a question, they try to follow up, and then Corinne Jean-Pierre goes on to another journalist who's actually an activist, who's not going to ask about things like the U.S. Southern Border, which is a huge concern, not just for Republicans.
Forget about that.
Independents, suburban moms seeing their education system overrun, their health care system overrun.
How about for people living in cities like New York City, where they see their city being overrun, their jobs being taken away?
That's why Donald Trump is now polling 20% support among blacks, 42% among Hispanics.
These are numbers that if they hold, it's going to be a landslide in 2024.
But Corine Jean-Pierre, you're right about the lying.
She blamed Donald Trump for handing this administration a broken border and an immigration system.
Blame Trump for that.
She blamed Trump for entering, did she blame Trump for ending wall construction?
Did Trump remain in Mexico?
No, of course not.
Did Trump tell the world when he was running for president to immediately surge the border?
No, he didn't.
That was Joe Biden who did that.
And now what do we got?
We got 7 million people who have entered this country illegally under this president.
You know that Libya doesn't even have a population of 7 million or Nicaragua, all of Nicaragua doesn't have a population of 7 million.
Yet here we are with more than 7 million people entering this country.
We have whole countries now in this country.
They're here illegally and some are on the terror watch list and we don't know where they came from or what their plans are, Sean.
Sean, there's a reason that this is happening and there's a reason that these are voters.
These guys are all coming to the country.
The Democrats know that they're going to get DACA and then they're going to get licenses and then they were going to get the ability to vote.
This is part of a plan and I think that the sooner we can call it out and understand what's really going on, this is the biggest hoax that's being perpetrated that we can't control the border.
They know how to do it.
They don't want to do it because this is the future of the Democratic Party.
This is how they are going to grow is by bringing in new voters.
And as soon as we open up our eyes and really understand what this fight is about, the sooner we can actually fight more effectively.
I totally agree on all of this.
Everything that we're looking at in terms of all the policy failures of Joe Biden, you can start with the border.
You can move on down four bucks a gallon for gasoline.
Joe, I was out in California, I think you know this week for the debate in Simee Valley and at the Reagan Library and not a great time.
I get off the plane and I'm driving and I'm looking and I'm like, holy, the first gas station I saw, $6.50 a gallon.
National average is now $4 a gallon again and going higher because there's been multiple predictions again this week that a barrel of oil is going to go as high as $150 a barrel.
That is massive.
And Joe has unilaterally disarmed in terms of energy production in this country.
Hence we're relying on Venezuela, OPEC nations that hate us, Saudi Arabia that's not exactly friendly to us.
And they have now reduced their output on purpose to drive up prices considering we have artificially reduced the world supply by getting out of that business.
But putting all that aside, and I'm looking at, so that's a failure.
And then I look at every other failure: law and order, safety, security.
No, defund, you know, still is, it's not quite the mantra.
They just hide it and they don't refund the police.
And crime is through the roof, and we see it every day.
Look at the streets of Philadelphia.
Mike, are you watching this insanity?
And I'm thinking, what has Biden done that warrants another election?
What are the Democratic Party, what have they been doing that would warrant them getting elected?
And the big question, Sean, will Joe Biden, is he like lying?
Is it going to get better with age or worse with age?
Obviously, the answer is worse, right?
So you're going to have this aging president who has policies, regardless of age, spending money when inflation is still three times as high as it was when Trump was in office, where you have not just not enough cops on the street, but when those good cops arrest people, these folks are right back out because the attorney general is like Alvin Bragg, let them write back out.
And that's why in Philadelphia, you see the looting that you do because they know there isn't going to be any consequences whatsoever.
You just talked about the border, obviously all the people coming in through that.
And then California, boy, you're right about that.
$7 for a gallon of gas.
That's why we're seeing now there are sleeping pod businesses in California where you pay $900 a night and it offers people a three and a half feet wide, four feet tall sleeping pot.
That is your apartment.
That's what you have to settle for, given however expensive everything is.
And that's why so many people now are doing a mass exodus out of California.
I'm glad you got out of there as soon as you could to barn and town.
By the way, does it have running water?
Does it have a place to go to the bathroom?
Share all that.
So it's like being back in the dorm again, except at least in the dorm, you had a little bit more than three and a half by four feet.
I mean, I never lived in a dorm, Joe.
No, thank God.
I just, you know, I stayed away.
I had enough money at the time to get my own place.
Oh, good for you.
Yeah, I had to share a room with a guy.
And that's the thing.
Back then, you didn't even know the person you're going to live with for the next nine months in this little cubicle of an apartment.
I mean, I got along with them, thank God.
But my niece is having a very bad time right now on her couch, I'll say that.
Well, I'll put it this way: I mean, I worked the entire time I was in college.
Still made it, by the way, Dean's list, a number of semesters.
I know, you're all impressed.
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Joe Concha and Sean Spicer are with us.
So there's nothing we can point to, Sean Spicer, unless you can and you want to tell us what they're doing that's successful.
So they don't really have anything they're going to run on, and everything's going to be MAGA Republicans, which Joe went out and tried to do yesterday, I think, is a deflection away from the first impeachment inquiry hearing that took place, which was pretty devastating to them all.
Joe's right.
He's not going to get better.
These cognitive issues he has, they're all degenerative, whether it's dementia, Alzheimer's, he's in a significant cognitive decline.
Everybody can see it's getting worse.
We now have dominoes falling, prominent liberal voices in the media, you know, now openly saying it.
Once they start sounding like me on the issue of the Joe Biden bribery money laundering scandal allegations, you'll know it's over for Joe.
Will he survive it?
Yeah, look, this is why I think the points you're bringing up are so important because Republicans need to be very careful both on the government shutdown and on the impeachment.
He literally is falling on his own weight.
You can't make it down the short stairs with tennis sneakers right now.
The American people are not only seeing the cognitive decline that you're...
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
We got to highlight this.
You're right.
Operation Keep Joe from Falling, day one of the operation did not go well because he nearly fell on his ass on the baby stairs coming down Air Force One.
You know what they're going to do, though?
I'm convinced within a month, they're going to find some excuse to have one of those stairs that you see that carry old people up.
They're going to have the little seat that suddenly moves up.
No, I think I'm even willing to pay for it because I think this has gotten out to the point of elder abuse.
Look at Diane Feinstein.
All these pictures I'm seeing from her youth, beautiful woman.
Why do we have to remember these last days?
This was not necessary.
Somebody in her life should have said no more.
They didn't.
Yeah, the people of California should have said that.
Here's the point, though.
These guys, the policies are an absolute disaster.
Republicans on the latest NBC poll, right, show that Republicans enjoy a 41% advantage on the economy, the largest since 1991.
That ABC News Washington Post poll last week shows Trump with a nine-point advantage.
My point is this.
The American people, to your point, Sean, and to the examples that you're bringing out, see it every day.
The policies, the man himself, we should not get in the way of this.
We've got to be careful that we don't screw up.
We got a roll.
Good to talk to you both.
Joe Contra, Sean Spicer, appreciate both of you.
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All right, on this Friday, by the way, Linda, you know what I got picked up the most in terms of, and I didn't know this till sweet baby James pointed it out to me?
You're going to laugh.
You want to know what people are talking about?
Of all the things I discussed, do you think the media ever talks about what I say about Joe's cognitive decline?
No.
No.
That's my question.
They've known it since I've known it, right?
They're not stupid.
They're just ideological and political hacks, right?
No, they're just complicit.
All right.
When I talk about the border or fentanyl or opioids or, you know, setting record after record, we're going to have 8 million illegal immigrants that Joe has aided and abetted into the country.
They never talk about that, do they?
No.
No.
No, unless they're calling me xenophobic for saying I want to enforce the law and that I believe in legal immigration.
Do they ever talk about the fact that we don't have to have gas at $4 a gallon?
We don't have to have gas in California at $7 a gallon.
I love it.
By the way, Gavin Newsom's answer is to blame the oil and gas companies for price gouging.
I'm like, well, can they sue you for price gouging, tax gouging out there with your 13.5% income tax?
That'd be a good lawsuit.
So, you know, there's just outright pure denial.
No, they didn't talk about that either.
What do you think trended the most about me apparently, and it's gone somewhat viral that I've said that got the mob and the media's attention?
I mean, I would assume they were ecstatic over your bromance with Newsom, but I don't know.
No, no, I don't have a bromance with Newsome.
Let me tell you what I am doing, though, and you know this is true.
I've been telling people for a long time, you better keep your eye on this guy.
Better keep your eye on him.
The fact that I'm pointing that out to people is a good thing.
Oh, Hannity, why are you letting them debate?
Well, it gives America an opportunity to see the diametrically opposed political philosophies, sanctuary state, non-sanctuary state, high-income tax state, no income tax state, law and order versus lawlessness.
Let the American people hear those red state, blue state differences.
Maybe it'll impact their voting.
So I think it's a good thing.
My own, you know, I'm confident in my views.
No, that's a big story that they're talking about is my comments on Taylor Swift.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, I haven't seen that.
No, what comments?
What are they obsessed about?
Just the fact that I said leave her and Travis Kelsey alone.
Yeah, I know Travis Kelsey is woke.
I don't care.
He reminds me of Ron Gronkowski.
He's such a talented receiver.
Mahomes is such a good quarterback.
It's as close to Brady a relationship as Brady had with the Gronk.
So if you like good football, he's a superb player.
He's just excellent.
And in the case of Taylor Swift, I don't care what her political views are.
Last time I checked, do I not always advocate freedom?
Am I not a big advocate of freedom?
This is not new for me, is it?
No.
No.
And that means you're free to believe what you want to believe, whether I agree with you or not, right?
And how many times have we discussed that if I made my music selection based on an artist's political ideology, my choices would be severely limited, wouldn't they?
I mean, yeah, that's what I do.
I listen to like three people.
You're just hardcore.
I am.
You are.
Okay.
So I just happen to like music.
I know you love music.
And for those of you that don't know, Linda is a great singer.
I mean, really, she sang in a band like I attended bar at weddings.
Oh, man, she's probably sang at more weddings than anybody I've ever known.
You know, on this last tour that she was on, you know what she gave as bonuses to the crew?
No, $100,000 each.
Oh, wow.
$100,000 each.
Now, that's a lot of money.
She didn't have to do that.
They're probably all union.
They probably get paid really well.
Those are probably good jobs for those guys.
And I thought that was really cool.
And, okay, so she has a different political viewpoint.
I don't care.
She's a great businesswoman.
Seems like a very nice person.
The way she treats people is inspiring.
So why do I care what her politics are?
And why is everybody trashing her?
I'm like, you don't see.
I think she's getting a lot more love than she's getting trashed.
I'll tell you that much.
I think there's a lot more people supporting her than not supporting her, but I think it's like anything else.
You know, if you look at, I just sent you something on your text, if you want to look at it.
I mean, her influence is, it's pretty, it's actually a little frightening that people put this much talk into a songwriter.
Not that I don't think she's talented, but she is a songwriter.
Like that, she writes songs.
By the way, that's another quality she has.
She writes her own music.
Very artists.
I'm saying like she's not working at the border.
She's not curing cancer.
She's not rescuing dogs, you know, from an impoverished university.
But we can say that about anybody in athletics, entertainment.
I agree, and I would.
And that's my point, is that I think what is frightening people is that she is now aligning herself with somebody who I don't actually know what her politics are, nor do I care.
I don't listen to her music.
I really don't know all that much about her.
I don't have anything.
She came out against Marsha Blackburn, but I don't care.
And I'm like, right, but at the end of the day, I've read a lot.
A lot of look, she made, but you believe in freedom and she's free to express her views.
No question about it.
But Sean, if I may, the only thing I'll say to you is it's the audience age.
It's not just the influence.
It's the influence of young girls and guys that are listening to her.
She is transcending age.
She has young kids.
She has staying almost.
The stuff that Travis Kelsey is okay with, whether it's transgenderism, vaccination, hiding things from your parents, and an entire woke ideology that parents are fighting against.
Now, this young girl who, you know, in your mind, you're buying tickets for your teenage daughter, son, whomever, to go see her.
And so your child is now going to see this girl who used to just be this really cool singer-songwriter that you didn't really know too much about what she thought about politics and the world outside of the fact that she was very much dedicated to giving you the best show possible when she was on stage.
Now she's aligned herself with this guy who has way too much to say about way too much and is very vocal about it.
And they're going, oh, I guess she thinks that.
Well, she thinks that, then I think that, because she does yield and wield so much power over this younger demo.
I'm not saying she doesn't have listeners of all ages, but the younger ones are the ones we're worried about.
So what's the alternative?
She doesn't get to speak in America or have her own individual thoughts and views.
That's not what I'm saying at all.
I'm just saying I can understand how people are upset.
It's kind of like poor Joe Concha that we just had on.
He's getting destroyed today because of what he said about her.
And he was joking.
And he said something to the effect of this morning on Fox News, he just made a joke and was like, I can't believe she dropped the F-bomb in front of his mom.
It was the first time she met him, which who the heck knows if that's true or not.
Hearing this come from you is rich.
Listen, I don't curse in front of my kids and I don't curse in front of my in-laws and I don't curse.
Where I curse is with people that are grown ups and adults.
What about your boss?
Yeah, well, you know, given the right environment, you know, I keep up with the best of them.
I'll drop it all day long, but I don't do it in front of my parents and I don't do it in front of the kids.
It's just my humble opinion.
But the problem is he's not allowed to say that.
People are freaking out saying it's, you know, I would keep all politics out of sports and entertainment, my own personal view, but they're free to do what they want.
And then they're, look, there are some artists that have spoken out on issues and paid a very dear price.
Careers have ended over that.
And yet they do it because they believe in it.
And you know what?
My attitude is if that's where your heart is, that's where your heart is.
Now, if people are getting their political views from a football player or an entertainer, that's fine with me.
But we do this for a living.
If I ever had a chance to sit with Travis Kelsey and talk to him about, I'd love to talk to him about politics.
I'd be civil.
I mean, it's just, you know, most people on the left, they don't want to.
And then the last thing I said is, why can't we just wish people well?
You know, it's like when, you know, the way they reacted to Joe Rogan.
I mean, that blew me away.
Joe Rogan gets COVID at a time when it was still, uh-oh, we're not sure how that's going to end sort of thing.
Gets COVID, comes back healthy.
We threw everything at it.
We got monoclonals.
We got HCQ.
But that's not why they were upset.
They were upset because of the influence that he wielded on his audience.
And they were afraid that his audience would start to take the things that he was taking.
So what?
But it's a perfect analogy.
You're literally proving my point.
My point is that people get upset about the fact about the influence that you now have over your audience and that the things that we thought you were for, you're not, whether it's to the left or the right.
It doesn't matter.
And so when you're wicked famous like Joe Rogan, like Taylor Swift, like this football player, people lose their minds because they're going to say something and then they feel that there's a lot of people lining up going, well, you know, this person that I love, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, they like this, so I like this.
And it's kind of like, hmm.
You know what?
Here's where I stand.
And it's very simple.
How about everyone has a chance to express their views?
And people that listen to people, they have an option to listen to them or not.
They don't have to go to concerts.
They don't have to go to football games.
They don't have to tune into shows.
They get to choose themselves.
And at the end of the day, even if they recommend something, that's then up to the people to decide.
That's what freedom means.
And you know what?
We're losing.
We're losing the concept of embracing freedom.
And freedom means that if I want a gas stove, I'm going to have a gas stove.
I'm going to have my air conditioner.
I'm going to keep my refrigerator and my other appliances and leave me the hell alone.
Anyway.
Well, I'm gently disagreeing with you, gently, very gently.
All right.
You don't want to hear my disagreement.
Oh, you want to add one more thought?
Okay.
It's my final thought, which is I don't think anybody's saying she can't say it.
I think they're just really surprised that she is.
And I think that's what you're seeing.
Everybody can think and do whatever they want.
It's just a matter of, hmm, I'm not sure if this is what I thought you were going to say.
And I think that's what we're seeing.
Okay.
You got the last word.
It's a little last word.
Oh, it's a nice last word.
It's fine.
All right.
Quick break.
Let's get to the phones when we get back.
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Ken in California.
What's up, Ken?
How are you?
Hello, Sean.
Hi to you and your team.
Although I haven't voted for her in the last over 20 years, I'd like to give my condolences out to Senator Feinstein and her fam, her Senator Feinstein's family.
See, by the way, that's nice.
There are people that would hate the fact that you said that.
You know what I feel bad for?
I feel bad.
I saw pictures of her.
She was a stunning star, young woman, longest serving in the Senate.
Why didn't somebody at some point when she was really in decline step in and say, uh-uh, we got to end this?
Why didn't that happen?
Same reason why they are not doing it for a few other politicians.
They just, they want that guaranteed vote in their direction.
That's my what else is on your mind?
Okay, on to why I called.
So I think there are two things that the DNC and the Democrat power brokers are very afraid of.
One is if Robert Kennedy Jr.
runs the third-party candidate.
And the other is if Robert Kennedy Jr.
and Gavin Newsom go head-to-head in a debate.
I think it would be like a UFC match, I mean, on pay-per-view.
I think it would be a massive viewership, probably north of 20 million.
And if you mine, it'd be north of 30.
You know, it's funny.
The reason this whole thing with Governor DeSantis and Governor Newsom happened very organically, because we all know they hate each other, right?
Everybody knows that part.
And so, you know, when I was interviewing Newsom and it just came up and the debate came together.
But there's one factor here that you wouldn't have with the RFK debate.
I don't think it's bad to have a lot of these guys with different views debating, to be honest.
And I'll do more of them if people like them.
If people don't like it, I won't do it anymore.
But anyway, what's interesting is they don't like each other.
They genuinely don't like each other.
That to me adds an element.
I don't know.
I can't help myself, but I like that element because it adds an edge to it that's real.
Make sense?
Absolutely.
I think you're right on.
Well, look, I think it'll be interesting, Red State versus Blue State, November 30th in Georgia.
Pretty excited to be doing it.
It's a ways off from now, but it'll be here, you know, in a blink of an eye.
Anyway, my friend, good call.
Hope you have a great weekend, all right?
Thanks.
You too, Sean.
All right, buddy.
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