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Sept. 13, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
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Social Media Collusion - September 12th, Hour 3
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Anyway, let me go to um a big victory that took place this way week.
Senator Eric Schmidt of Missouri, former AG of Missouri, had a massive win, a lawsuit that he started as attorney general, uh, as a results with Biden and his administration colluding with social media giants.
And anyway, uh, I got to tell you something.
The administration now has clear cleared the wave on a whole variety of issues.
But this this Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals upholding this district court ruling in Missouri of Missouri versus Biden and joining the Biden administration from colluding with social media companies to censor speech.
Uh, we can't even begin to calculate the impact that the issue of censorship and big tech and uh had on the 2020 election, presidential election.
You can't calculate this.
The laptop of Hunter Biden was very real.
And yet we've learned it that even though the FBI had that laptop in December of 2019, even though we know they verified its authenticity in March of 2020, they had FBI agents meeting weekly with big tech companies.
Why?
For the purpose of warning them that they may be victims of a misinformation campaign regarding our presidential elections, specifically warning them that the misinformation may be about Joe and Hunter Biden.
Uh the head of site integrity at the time, Yoel Roth for Twitter, now X, but Twitter at the time had actually testified that yeah, they they specifically warned that it may be about Hunter Biden.
And sure enough, when the when they were meeting with these big tech companies, and even Facebook and Twitter at the time, not X at the time, Twitter asked specific questions of the FBI, is the laptop real?
And the FBI knew it was real, they wouldn't give them the confirmation that they should have been willing to give them, especially in light of what they had been warning them against.
Because the net result was that no big tech company even allowed anyone to share the Hunter Biden laptop story.
You couldn't even send it in a private message to a friend for crying out loud.
That's how bad it got.
Anyway, let me uh play for you, Christopher Ray testifying to the issue the FBI doesn't ask social media to censor or suppress stories.
Uh, I don't believe this statement is true.
We'll ask Eric Schmidt on the other side.
The the idea that you take information and you have it taken down, use your authority and the the leverage you have to have Meta, Google, uh, Facebook or Facebook being meta or uh Twitter.
Take down people's information uh on things like where the where COVID came from.
Where do you find the national security interest in that?
Where do you find the interest in free speech of American citizens being taken down?
And I repeat, free speech of American citizens.
Where do you have that authority?
So we don't uh ask social media companies uh to censor information or suppress information uh when it comes to national security threats, certainly.
Uh so what we do do is alert them when some other intelligence agency gives us information about a foreign intelligence service being behind some account.
We will call social media companies attention to that, but at the end of the day, we're very clear that it's up to the social media companies to decide whether to do something about the suggestion of the most powerful law enforcement operation is not a suggestion.
It is in fact effectively in order.
All right, joining us now is Senator, then Attorney General.
He got this case started back when he was the attorney general.
Uh anyway, congratulations.
This is a big win with the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals upholding the Missouri versus Biden case and in joining in this particular case, the Biden administration from colluding with social media moving forward.
Do you believe this had a big impact on the 2020 presidential race?
Absolutely, Sean.
And it's as you said, it's hard to really calculate.
But this censorship enterprise that was put in place was vast and uh and scarier than anybody could have ever imagined.
When we filed the lawsuit over a year ago, we had our suspicions.
I mean, Jinsaki was at the podium warning social media companies.
It turns out they were threatening legal action.
Um it spanned from the 2020 election to uh the vaccine issue to masks um to the origin of COVID.
I mean, they were suppressing and censoring millions of posts, millions of posts.
And the discovery that came out so far um is is very revealing direct communications, a special portal that was put in place.
I mean, this is Orwellian kind of stuff, and that's not even my words.
That's from the district court judge that that ruled in our favor, and then ultimately that was affirmed by the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals.
Now, this case, I think, Sean, is destined for the Supreme Court.
It should be.
It's the most important free speech case, I think, in the history of the country, because we're no longer talking about just sort of the town square.
This is the virtual town square.
And the First Amendment is critical.
It's it's so important for our republic, it's a pressure release valve, it's the beating heart of the Constitution.
People have a right to say their peace.
And the so-called experts and these folks who are claiming everything they don't agree with is disinformation needs to be censored, are on the wrong side of history.
So this this win is a big win for the First Amendment and the American people.
I I think this is the most important issue right now facing the country in terms of future elections.
Now, can you explain to me why the FBI that had Hunter Biden's laptop authenticated the laptop, uh, why they were meeting with big tech companies, and it was your case that that actually got the information that I think is most pertinent,
and that the FBI in these weekly meetings was telling Twitter in this specific case that in fact the misinformation campaign may be about Hunter Biden, and then the Hunter Biden laptop uh is m is big news in the New York Post.
Then big tech, having been warned weekly by the FBI uh representatives uh that they may be this may be a misinformation campaign, they wouldn't allow anyone to share that information.
Pertinent information that I think the American voter needed to know about.
Well and they would not confirm, even when specifically asked that they knew in fact it was authentic.
Why is that?
Yeah, I mean, I think that this is one of the scariest revelations of the case is that essentially the FBI having weekly censorship meetings, so the full power of the federal government law enforcement right, along with the biggest country companies in the history of the world.
I mean, these are some of the most you combine those two against the American people in the free flow of information in an important election.
Uh it's scary stuff.
And so, yeah, they were having weekly meetings, they were warning them of a Russian hack and leak operation.
They knew the laptop was real.
Yel Ross, in a sworn affidavit, said that they specifically mentioned the Hunter Biden laptop.
And so they're setting the stage to spoil that so they could, you know, you know, essentially censor this the uh the story.
Miranda Devine has said that her emails were being monitored, so they knew exactly when the story was going to break.
And then, of course, you've got this sort of establishment intelligence community that signs a letter um saying that this is false and nothing to see here.
You couldn't find the story online, it was being suppressed on platforms.
I mean, again, people have the right to to learn about this information and make their own decisions, Sean.
That's really what this comes down to.
Conservatives should be are the champions of free speech.
Individuals can make these decisions, well, who they vote for, whether they wear a mask, whether they get the vaccine, whatever.
The government doesn't have any business in telling you what the truth is.
And I think it's a very dangerous road to go down, and this case is exposed it.
Um there's an injunction for a number of White House officials, I mean, it goes all the way to the top, so that this never happens again.
I just think it's so critical, not just for elections, but just for people feeling like they can err their opinion.
And if people don't feel like they can do that, that leads to a lot of frustration you feel it's out there.
And so um again, one of the reasons why I think the case is so important.
Let me ask you, why do you believe this is going to the Supreme Court?
You think it's going to be appealed again?
Yeah, so my guess is the government will try to get this essentially the injunction the the to say, hey, you can't do this anymore.
They're gonna probably try to take that to the court.
Whether the court hears that or not, um we'll see.
Ultimately this is gonna continue to make its way, and I think this will be a healthy thing.
I mean, the courts essentially have said, Missouri, you're likely to prevail on the merits.
So there's gonna be more testimony.
There's gonna be more depositions.
I mean, I took when I was attorney general, right before I got sworn into the Senate, took the deposition of Anthony Fauci, and it was I mean, this guy, um, the more and more we learn, the more and more we know he lied.
And so I think you're gonna have more discovery come out, but in the meantime, they're prevented the courts that join them from this kind of communication, this sort of coercion with these social media companies.
But the Supreme Court's gonna ultimately decide this that hey, you can't the government can't use the heavy hand of government and threaten these social media companies that unless you take this post down, we're gonna launch an antitrust investigation, or you're gonna lose your Section 230 protections, or we're gonna, you know, come after you in some other legal way.
Um it was pretty brazen.
I mean, again, Sean, they were they were at the podium talking about this, Jin Saki, they created a disinformation governance board.
I mean, these folks are playing for keeps, and we've got to be up to the challenge and push back.
And so I'm I'm really proud of what we took.
And it's also, Sean, in the Senate now, I've introduced two pieces of legislation that I think are really important to make sure this doesn't happen again.
So if you think about the private side, if a social media company engages in this kind of activity that censor speech violates people's first amendment rights, they should lose their Section 230 protections, meaning they can be sued.
And if the government does this, we want to empower an army of citizens to be able to sue individual government bureaucrats who censored their speech.
So as attorney general is able to bring that, but we want to have a what's called a sort of a section 1983 cause of action for an individual to sue the deputy undersecretary of whatever that was censoring their speech, that will prevent this stuff from happening.
So we've got the court side of it.
We now need the legislative piece of this too, and and I'm helping lead that charge.
Well, we appreciate it.
This this is a landmark case.
This is a very critical case, and I think every American needs to take a very law a long look at what's happened here.
And the idea that the the FBI knew that this laptop was real, that they themselves authenticated it.
They had their own copy of it, and that yet they still had agents meeting weekly with big tech companies in the lead up to the 2020 election, specifically warning them that there might be victims of misinformation campaigns about Joe and Hunter Biden.
Uh, and then when asked if the laptop was real, they would not give the answer they should have given, which is, yeah, that's real.
They should have told them the truth so they could tell the truth to the American people, and frankly, they probably should have just stayed out of it.
And this is like the 2016 election, as far as I'm concerned, putting cinder blocks on the scales of a presidential election of which they should have no involvement at all whatsoever.
And you know what?
It's not good for the country.
Uh Senator, great to have you.
Senator Eric Schmidt, Missouri.
Thank you, sir.
Thanks, Sean.
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Uh Jill and Maryland, hi, how are you?
I'm good, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good.
What's going on?
So I've been uh listening to the show, and I I really think we need Biden to be the Democratic nominee.
And I say that because he's beatable.
I think that he will he him being their nominee will keep people on the left at home, just like what happened in the last election with Trump.
I think people on the right stayed home.
Um I think we need to get President Trump back in office.
I really do.
I I voted for Trump the first two times.
I plan on voting for him the third time.
If for whatever reason he's not our nominee, I still plan on voting for whoever is, because listening to Senator Schmidt and even listening to Congressman Gates, the stuff that's going on.
If anything, we just need a band-aid.
And if they put somebody else besides Biden up there, and I'm really scared it's going to be Shell Obama, I I think I I don't know that we can win.
People have brought up Michelle Obama's name to me a lot.
Um I mean, I can see a scenario where they might call upon her.
Uh you know, what what happens is if something happens to Joe Biden when we get to the convention and they need to call an audible and he can't be the candidate, uh, then what happens?
At that point, without a single vote cast in the Democratic Party, there'll be uh I could absolutely see her being nominated.
Now, does she want to be president of the United States?
I don't know.
I'm not sure that she's equipped to be president of the United States.
Just because her husband was, and just because she was there, doesn't really give her a lot of experience now, does it?
No, but the Biden's not equipped to be the president either, and I believe that we he's not r he's the president as a figurehead, in my opinion.
In my opinion, we're in the middle of Barack Obama's third term, and putting Michelle up there gives him term number four, maybe term number five.
And you know, there's there's clearly someone else pulling the strings.
The Jew's not making these decisions.
Uh, that part I think anyone with eyes to see can agree with.
Uh anyway, appreciate the call, Jill.
Thank you.
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All right, uh well, you know, why wasn't it made a bigger deal that Joe Biden lied?
Just flat out lied about being at ground zero the day after 911.
I was not at ground zero the day after 911.
I was there a number of days after 91.
Uh I was there doing coverage from an adjacent building doing Hannity and Combs, but I was not there the day after 91.
I wasn't there on 911.
I couldn't get into New York City.
Why would somebody lie about something like this?
You know, it's so insulting to all the people that were there that you know were told, oh, the air is safe.
Who was it?
Christy Todd Whitman.
I think it was Christy Todd Whitman.
Oh, the air is safe.
No, it wasn't safe.
You know, 9 11 related illness taking lives to this day.
Why did Joe?
Why does he always seem to lie about everything?
And why is everything about him?
Is it because he's in such a cognitive decline?
He lives in this this bizarro fantasy world that only Joe Biden understands.
Listen.
I remember standing there the next day and looking at the building.
I felt like I was looking through the gates of hell.
It looked so devastating.
Because the way you could from where you could stand.
Wow.
Unbelievable.
I don't even have words for this.
So insulting.
All the people that were down there in the at that time that was rescue recovery effort time.
People were dying, hopeful, hoping and praying that they might find a few people in the rubble alive somehow.
Anyway, let's get to our phones.
Starting with Dan in Ohio.
Hey, Dan, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Thank you for taking my call, Sean.
Sean, we need you as Speaker of the House.
Believe me.
Republican leadership is so pathetically weak with McCarthy, McConnell, Lindsey Graham, and I'm from Ohio, and I voted for Jim Jordan as an independent.
But these guys are all talk zero action.
They held hearings where people lied to them, and they did absolutely nothing.
Nothing.
But Republicans, nothing.
It it's frustrating.
It really is.
And Democrats are way better at politics.
And what I mean by that is they know how to name a bill.
Okay?
The bipartisan infrastructure bill.
They know how to add things in bills to make it look like Republicans are voting against the police.
They got a seven trillion dollar bill.
They'll put a hundred thousand for police in there and a hundred thousand for border agents.
And if Republicans vote against it, well, they're against they want to defund the police.
They don't they don't want to uh secure the border.
They're just way better at politics than uh Republicans will ever be.
You know, look, I I'll just I'll say it very, very simply.
And to me, it's basic and it's it's fundamental.
Republicans just need to stand on their principles, stand up for what they believe in, and and you know, the media mob be damned and everybody else be damned.
Give people hope that you're gonna mean what you say, say what you mean, and follow through.
That's what their job is here.
Now, I don't have a lot of hope for this the Senate, but the Senate needs to join with House Republicans and start fighting.
And you know, we we're gonna watch, you know, the next 18 days with the Republicans, and then even beyond that, because I'm sure it'll extend beyond that.
You know, we we're gonna learn a lot.
This is now, you know, time for Republicans to prove that they mean what they say.
And and, you know, I stand by what I said.
I I think it's a great step by McCarthy to go with the impeachment inquiry.
I know others would like the impeachment to start right away.
They don't have the votes to start it right away.
They want more evidence, but the case is getting stronger by the hour, and you'll they will have more investigative tools and powers uh available to them by taking this initial first step.
It is real.
Joe Biden is involved in a serious allegation of bribery and money laundering, and the evidence is now growing daily, and it's becoming overwhelming and Incontrovertible.
You know, but but then you got to get to the issue of you know, what are the issues that impact the American people?
I went over some of the economic numbers before.
We got a massive rise in our poverty rate in this country.
And you know what?
That means that Americans can be doing better.
Poverty rate has increased for the first time since 2010.
Americans are suffering needlessly, and we need leadership to get us out of it.
And we can't rob from our kids anymore.
It's got to stop.
It's uncanny to me, but I think we can do it better, Dan.
I really do.
And now's the time for them to just stand by what they said they do.
It's not complicated.
Uh, but we appreciate the call, Dan.
Thank you.
Uh, Gerald in Idaho.
Hey, Gerald, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
You're an independent voter, it says.
How are you, Hannity?
Um, so my you know, my problem is with all this uh impeachment and the quick pro quo of Joe Biden.
You know, if anybody out there, a regular citizen like me, or anyone else out there were to get these inquiries, we would already be in prison.
Not walking around free to do whatever we want, not walking around to do more.
We would already be in prison looking at life.
And we got this guy that has been in Congress for well over two decades, playing this game the whole time, playing with classified documents at his home, playing with his son at Barisma, taking money, taking bribes, and it's documented proof.
They barely have anything on Trump.
Do I like Trump?
Not too much, but you know, at least he was better than most everyone out there.
And why don't you like Trump?
I just I don't know.
I just think he's a pain, but you know, he rubs you the wrong way.
You know, he he did a lot of good things.
Let me ask you this question.
I'm just curious, because I talked to a lot of people.
For whatever reason, people want to engage me about this.
Do you like the fact that he he fights for everything that he believes in?
In other words, he fought for the they wouldn't give him the money for the border wall, so he found another way to get the money to build the whatever many hundreds of miles that he built, right?
Um he fights against our allies in NATO to make sure they pay their fair share.
He fights for better trade deals with Japan and China and Canada and Europe and Mexico.
Um, he's he fights for energy independence.
He fights a fighter.
Okay.
I don't think that switch goes off, and and some people wonder well, why doesn't the switch ever go off?
I'm not sure if he can turn it off.
But do you like that part?
I mean, is he somebody that you think that got elected and and did what he promised people he'd do?
Oh, absolutely, and that's not what I mean when he's a pain.
It's just with the Twitter and with all the other BS, you know, that's what I'm talking about.
His policies, his the way he did things, the way he worked it like a business, like it should be, because that's exactly what it is, and it's our country.
He is the leader of our country.
He did great things with immigration with NATO, with getting us out of all the other BS we were in.
And our gas prices were so low it was great.
Now our gas prices are at four dollars a gallon or more.
And I'm over here in in Idaho looking at things, and I'm like, you know, our immigration system is so bad over here.
I have multiple farms and dairies here.
There is nothing but illegal immigrants there.
Because they're cheap labor, they don't have to pay taxes on them, and our jail every week is full of immigrants being transported back to the border or being to taken on a plane and sent over.
Now they're just freely here and they don't do that anymore.
When Trump was elected and he came in, that jail was full every week on Tuesday and on Wednesday, they were transported out of here.
And our economy got stronger here, our livelihood got Stronger.
Our pay went up.
And Idaho is almost fully independent.
We have one of the best economies in the nation right now.
And since Biden's came up, our housing prices have skyrocketed.
Our economy is still doing pretty good.
But everything is so high that the average Joe cannot afford rent.
They can't afford groceries.
They can't afford gas.
An average household like mine, a household of five, I have to make at least 120,000 a year just to barely scrape by.
Poverty is up.
Poverty rate is up for the first time since 2010.
You know, there's a Washington Post article.
Remember, I don't know if you remember a couple of weeks ago, Linda and I were kidding around, and she made fun of me.
We're talking about voie gras and how they want to ban the babes.
Basically, it's nothing but duck liver.
I wouldn't go near this crap if you paid me.
And when I go to a fancy restaurant, which I've been to, um, I I really am never if I can't understand what's on the menu, and it's got all the fruit-fruy, you know, stuff on there.
I have no interest in it.
And I I wasn't kidding when I say often I'll say, Do you have a children's menu?
Because uh, you know, if I have to, I'll get, you know, pasta and marinara or a cheeseburger with no bun.
Uh I don't eat much pasta, but I'll I'll get something from the kids' menu or a hot dog or whatever, anything other than the you know, frog wrap and and whatever fancy schmancy stuff that you know a bunch of elitists eat.
I'd I um give me a steak and a hamburger, a piece of chicken, some vegetables, and I'm good to go.
And I I'll order from the kids' menu.
You know what?
There's a Washington Post article, adults are ordering from the kids' menu to save money.
I mean, does that not kind of encapsulate where we are economically in the country when sixty-one percent, fully sixty-one percent of our fellow Americans are living paycheck to paycheck.
Does that not tell us things aren't aren't going in the direction they should be going?
Gas prices now up, you know, yeah uh uh uh up to four bucks a gallon on average, a barrel of oil now back at a hundred bucks.
I mean, this has got to stop.
We all of these problems by policies have caused us were all preventable.
And people like you, you're talking about a hundred and twenty grand family of five, and you're struggling to make it.
That's a pretty good salary.
Can I ask you a question?
What kind of business are you in?
I'm a diesel technician.
I'm gonna give you some advice, and I don't know if you're gonna take it.
Look into South Dakota and see how much money you can make in South Dakota.
Same as I'm making here.
Nope.
I bet it's more.
I will bet you money it's more.
Yeah, I looked at it uh six months ago because I just transferred jobs to a mobile diesel tech, and when I looked in South Dakota, I'm telling you right now 90,000, and I'm making ninety-five here.
Uh, Linda, we do me a favor.
Check with Christy Gnome's office and have one of their people get in touch with this guy, okay?
Oh, okay, boss.
Yeah.
All right, thank you, Linda.
All right, thank you, Gerald.
Appreciate it, buddy.
Mark in Minnesota.
Mark, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Yeah, thanks for taking my call, uh, Sean.
Uh I was calling a little bit about uh 2020 election fatigue uh with uh President Trump and just hoping that he can kind of focus on the future with his campaign.
And he's gonna get the uh uh grind his axes, I think a little bit in his trial in Georgia.
But I think Biden is his greatest ally with all his awful decisions and basically just sit back and say what what he's going to do.
And uh a lot of people kind of get uh turned off when it uh when we keep going back to 2020, 2020 because they're hurting.
Uh you heard this previous caller, people are hurting and they want to know what's upcoming and really don't want to look in the rear rear view mirror right now.
Uh I tend to agree elections are about the future.
With that said, uh I do think the issue of election integrity and confidence in our elections are are a very important debate that should be part of the future.
And you know, I think simple things like voter ID, signature verification, uh chain of custody controls, updated voter rolls.
Uh if I had my way, we'd have election day be a national holiday.
We'd have paper ballots, all the all the uh checks and balances that I just mentioned.
Man, you know, I'd make it that all right, yeah, partisan observers watching the voting all day and the vote counting as soon as the polls close, and then you declare a winner and we're done.
I think that would be the system that gave people the most confidence in the results and would have the most integrity in the process.
But let's see what happens.
Um, I don't believe people should be voting for 90 days outside of an election.
Not everything that people need to know has happened 90 days before an election.
Anyway, appreciate the call, my friend, 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
That's gonna wrap things up for today.
And all right, now a full impeachment inquiry will begin.
Uh, we'll check in with the House Oversight Committee Chair, James Comer, the House Ways and Means Committee Chairman, Jason Smith, Senator Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham.
Apparently they were talking about indict him down in Georgia.
Uh we'll respond to that.
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