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Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene - September 12th, Hour 2
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As we mentioned earlier, Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy laying out his, and announcing his impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden, the Biden family syndicate.
And he said, we'll go where the evidence takes us.
And anyway, he laid out the case.
Here's what he said.
You know, in the months that we were gone and the weeks, House Republicans have uncovered serious and credible allegations into President Biden's conduct.
Taken together, these allegations paint a picture of a culture of corruption.
Now, here's what we know so far.
Through our investigations, we have found that President Biden did lie to the American people about his own knowledge of his family's foreign business dealings.
Eyewitnesses have testified that the president joined on multiple phone calls and had multiple interactions.
Dinners resulted in cars and millions of dollars into his sons and his son's business partners.
We know that bank records show that nearly $20 million in payments were directed to the Biden family members and associates through various shale companies.
The Treasury Department alone has more than 150 transactions involving the Biden family and other business associates that were flagged as suspicious activity by U.S. banks.
Even a trusted has alleged a bribe to the Biden family.
Biden used his official office to coordinate with Hunter Biden's business partners about Hunter's role in burisma, a Ukrainian energy company.
Finally, despite these serious allegations, it appears that the president's family has been offered special treatment by Biden's own administration.
Treatment that not otherwise would have received if they were not related to the president.
These are allegations of abuse of power, obstruction, and corruption, and they warrant further investigation by the House of Representatives.
All right, joining us now is Georgia Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor-Green is with us.
Congresswoman, welcome back.
How are you?
I'm doing well, Sean.
Thank you for having me on.
All right, let's get first your reaction to this.
You had even said on issues involving budgetary matters, unless there was such an inquiry, you aren't going there.
Absolutely not.
The American people have made it clear over 61% of Americans believe Joe Biden is involved in his son Hunter's business dealings and is guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors.
This raises the bar.
But I am very excited that our speaker, Kevin McCarthy, announced the impeachment inquiry this morning and that we've started that process.
And I think this allows Congress to do the right thing to look for the truth, to show transparency and uncover corruption for the American people.
And then we can diligently work at the same time going towards the September 30th deadline to fund the government.
Now, we'll also have on later in the program your colleague Matt Gates, who took to the floor earlier today and announced that, in fact, he's demanding that Speaker McCarthy have votes on term limits, balanced budget, come up with the 12 budgets that are necessary in 11 days,
I think is when the clock runs out and to have individual appropriations bills considered and the full release of the January 6th tapes and spending cuts to no spending cuts to raise the debt limit.
What's your reaction to him talking about vacating the chair?
I am completely against the motion to vacate.
I think that is the wrong move.
We are not even a year into our majority and we've been working hard.
Our committees have done incredible work on our investigation, ways and means, Judiciary Committee, the committee I serve on oversight, my other committees, Homeland has done an incredible job, and the COVID committee.
We are working very hard there as well.
So I think that we need to keep working on our appropriation bills.
We have 11 of them left, and hopefully we can try to get those passed if we work overtime towards September 30th.
Now, on some of the issues he talked about, I'm co-sponsors on those bills.
I co-sponsor the term limits bill.
I've co-sponsored a balanced budget.
Those are things that I would love to see our conference do, but to call for a motion to vacate right after our speaker announces an impeachment inquiry, I think is excessive, and I think that's the wrong direction.
Well, he says there's been no vote.
Is there a scheduled vote, or have you talked to the speaker about scheduling votes on these issues?
I'd have to talk to the WIP team.
You know, everyone needs to remember the speaker doesn't run every single part of our conference.
As a matter of fact, some of our appropriation bills are still stuck in committees, and it's up to those committees to push those out so we can vote on them.
And as far as scheduling bills to the floor, we have other people in leadership that are involved in that as well.
It takes a team to run Congress.
We do have a speaker, but he doesn't do every single job in the entire conference.
I've looked at this issue involving the Biden family syndicate, and I've interviewed Jim Jordan and James Comer numerous times.
You know, starting out with what the speaker said, Joe Biden lied repeatedly when he said that he never spoke to his son Hunter or his brother or anybody for that matter about his foreign business dealings.
He said it as a candidate.
He said it as a president.
Devin Archer testified that, in fact, there are at least 20 meetings that he knows of where Joe Biden was on a speakerphone talking to Hunter Biden and Hunter's business associates.
There were dinners with oligarchs, foreign business partners like the former First Lady of Moscow.
She did $3.5 million in one transaction and invested another $120 million in a different transaction.
And Joe met and had dinner with two oligarchs that we know of at Cafe Milano.
Then, of course, you have the timeline involving Burisma, which I think is very damning to the entire Biden family, but more specifically to Joe Biden.
And that is that it became official Obama administration policy in October of 2015 that they would, in fact, give Ukraine a billion in loan guarantees because they, after an interagency analysis, they had determined that they had made enough progress on the issue of corruption that warranted that billion in loan guarantees.
Then we go to December 4th of 2015, the same year, Joe Biden.
He gets on the phone with Hunter Biden and Burisma executives.
They're in Dubai.
This is at the time where we know from emails, et cetera, that the Burisma executives were panicked about Victor Shokin, who was the prosecutor investigating the oil and gas giant Burisma, which, of course, was paying Hunter, who admitted he had no experience in energy, oil, gas, or Ukraine, a fortune.
And five days later, he went to Ukraine and he now infamously leveraged a billion taxpayer dollars to get a prosecutor fired in six hours.
And as a result of that decision, Hunter Biden continued to get enriched.
He continued to get paid for a job in which he had no experience.
The speaker mentioned suspicious activity reports.
The speaker mentioned shell corporations.
James Comer has talked at length about nine specific Biden family members that were paid massive amounts of money.
We're talking about tens and tens of millions of dollars here, Congresswoman.
What do you call it?
I call this corruption at the highest level.
And here's what I meant.
Is it corruption or is it bribery?
Is it money laundering?
What is it?
I think it's all of the above.
And you laid it out perfectly, just like I'm sure you have countless time for all of your listeners and viewers.
And that's why they watch your show and listen to you on the radio, because you tell them the truth and you get the information out, which our mainstream media doesn't do.
And there's many Americans that don't know the truth and don't know the story.
Never forget, 51 intelligence community members signed their name to a lie in a letter saying the Hunter Biden laptop wasn't even real and it was Russian disinformation.
This is why our impeachment inquiry is so important.
We have to take as long as we need to to dig as deep as we need to go, not only to investigate the crimes of Joe Biden and his family, where they've gotten rich, raking in tens of millions of dollars by selling out his power for who knows how long.
And he's been in Washington over 50 years.
But I think something more important is at stake, Sean.
And I think you'll understand this so quickly because you've been on top of this story for so many years.
We need to uncover every single corrupt member of each agency that has been involved in the cover-up, the cover-up of these crimes that has propelled Joe Biden to the highest seat of power in our land.
And I think that is worth investigating.
And I think that's what this inquiry will uncover is those names.
And the American people deserve to know who those unelected bureaucrats are that are getting paid with their hard-earned tax dollars to cover up the crimes of the President of the United States.
All right, quick break more with Georgia Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green on the other side.
And also we'll check in with Florida Congressman Matt Gates, who's battling Speaker McCarthy.
What, now we have to the end of the month, only, I guess, 11 working days now until Republicans can come up with 11 appropriations bills.
We'll see what happens.
We'll get to that.
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We continue now with Georgia Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene is with us.
When we have your colleague Matt Gates on at the bottom of the half hour, who is now talking about a vote to vacate the chair and previously discussed even partnering with Democrats to replace Speaker McCarthy, and he's going to bring up the issues that I had mentioned: votes on term limits,
a balanced budget, appropriations bills, January 6th tapes released, no spending cut to raise the debt limit, and then the whole issue of the budget and whether or not Republicans will close down the government or allow the government to be closed down and insist on real budgets or whether a continuing resolution occurs.
I mean, what are we going to do on September 30th?
Do you have any idea?
And what is your answer to him when he says these votes haven't taken place?
Well, first of all, Matt is a dear friend of mine, and he is a great ally of mine.
We work together on many things, and I know we will always continue to do that.
We're also President Trump's greatest defenders in the House of Representatives, and we are working very hard to re-elect President Trump in 2024.
So I talk to Matt almost every single day.
That's really easy for me.
He and I support the same things.
Of course, I support the same bills that he wants.
I'm a co-sponsor for those things.
I have my own red lines in the sand when it comes to funding.
I will not vote to fund any more COVID insanity for masks, vaccine mandates, or new vaccines.
COVID is over, and even Joe Biden signed a resolution stating so.
I will not fund a war in Ukraine.
We need peace in that country, and we need to be defending our own borders to stop the murder of 300 Americans every single day and the cartel billion-dollar industry of human trafficking and drug trafficking.
And I will not fund a weaponized government.
Jack Smith special counsel, the arrest of Joe Biden's top political opponent, Donald Trump, our former president and current top presidential contender going into 2024, and all the persecution of anyone that the Biden administration doesn't agree with.
They're using the DOJ as a campaign arm.
We cannot fund those things.
So Matt and I are aligned on many, many issues.
But if the Republicans are fighting themselves on the issue of McCarthy and maybe the timing and maybe some specific disagreements about, I mean, I might assume that there's going to be some moderates that would prefer a CR.
They don't want the pressure of being blamed for a government shutdown, even though we both know the government never shuts down.
That's a big lie and it's a big scare tactic.
That is a scare tactic.
So how do Republicans thread that needle with such a tiny majority?
I think we have to get in the room and we got to work it out.
And that's what you do in any situation.
You know, I ran a very successful construction company for almost 25 years.
And whenever we hit a bump in the road or a problem, we got in the room and we figured it out or got out on the job site and looked at the real problems and we found a solution and we fixed it.
And that's what Republicans have to do here in the House.
And I believe we're capable of doing it.
I'm glad we're back in session.
I hope we can work hard to get our appropriation bills done and done correctly.
We shouldn't be in fear of Chuck Schumer in the Senate or the White House because Democrat policies are crushing Americans right now.
They can't afford their groceries.
They can't afford their bills.
They can't afford anything.
And they're maxing out their credit cards at record high numbers just to get by month to month.
We have nothing to fear of Bidenomics.
Bidenomics is destroying America.
What we got to do is we've got to roll up our sleeves and we got to get to work.
But I'll tell you right now, a motion to vacate will not stick.
And I don't think that we should ever work with Democrats, especially Eric Swalwell or AOC, to accomplish anything in the House because we know what exactly those people are.
They're communist Democrats and they don't serve America at all.
Marjorie Teller-Green, appreciate you being with us.
Thank you.
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All right, we just had Marjorie Taylor Greene on, and she had nice things to say about our next guest.
We'll get to in a second, Matt Gates, Congressman from Florida, who gave this speech, which we discussed in the last half hour on the House floor today.
On this very floor in January, the whole world witnessed a historic contest for House Speaker.
I rise today to serve notice.
Mr. Speaker, you are out of compliance with the agreement that allowed you to assume this role.
The path forward for the House of Representatives is to either bring you into immediate, total compliance or remove you pursuant to a motion to vacate the chair.
We have had no vote on term limits or on balanced budgets as the agreement demanded and required.
There's been no full release of the January 6th tapes.
As you promised, there has been insufficient accountability for the Biden crime family.
And instead of cutting spending to raise the debt limit, you relied on budgetary gimmicks and rescissions so that you ultimately ended up serving as the valet to underwrite Biden's debt and advance his spending agenda.
Mr. Speaker, you boasted in January that we would use the power of the subpoena and the power of the purse.
But here we are, eight months later, and we haven't even sent the first subpoena to Hunter Biden.
That's how you know that the rushed and somewhat rattled performance you just saw from the speaker isn't real.
I know that Washington isn't a town where people are known for keeping their word.
Well, Speaker McCarthy, I'm here to hold you to yours.
All right, joining us now, Florida Congressman Matt Gates is with us.
Sir, welcome back to the program.
How are you?
I'm good.
Thanks for having me, Sean.
Okay, so let's get into this in great specificity and detail.
And I just had Marjorie Taylor Greene on.
Very complimentary of you.
Does not agree with where you're taking this, which would be in a motion to vacate.
Why, are you not happy with Jim Jordan and James Comer's handling their respective investigations?
For example, the House Oversight Committee, that's Comer's committee, investigating the Biden Family Syndicate.
The Judiciary Committee, Jordan's committee are investigating how the FBI and DOJ have been weaponized and politicized.
And now, of course, we have the impeachment inquiry announcement today.
Both things, by the way, Jordan and Comer have been asking Speaker McCarthy to do, which they have now done, and he laid out the reasons why.
Are you not happy with the speed of this or the progress of this?
I am not happy with the speed of this.
jim jordan and james comer have done great work but they've been handcuffed worse than david weiss the delaware u.s attorney who wasn't able to take action against hunter biden i believe if jim jordan and well let me slow you down I've talked to both of them.
They're happy with the progress that they've made, even though there's been, as you know, a lot of obfuscation, obstruction, lack of cooperation to get suspicious activity reports, the 1023 form, other information that has been necessary for their investigation.
Then you tell me why we haven't sent a subpoena to Hunter Biden.
No, I agree with you, Bob.
If this is gone, then you tell me why Hunter Biden hasn't gotten a subpoena, because there's no logical explanation for that.
James Comer announced in the last week and a half that he's going to be subpoenaing the Biden family members.
I agree with you.
How many times have politicians not come through with that?
Like, how many times did Lindsey Graham go on your program and say that he was going to be the chairman of the Judiciary Committee and he was going to call in Hunter Biden?
Hunter Biden was going to be in the witness chair.
Let's stay focused on the House.
I'm asking, do you not believe James Comer means it when he says he's now going to subpoena Biden family members?
Because I'm pretty convinced that he's going to do so.
It's been eight months, Sean.
You know, I love Jamie Comer.
I think he's a really smart guy, but there's no excuse for the eight-month delay.
And you know what?
Because they do fight them, because you do have to go to court sometimes, the eight-month delay that we've already self-inflicted on ourselves may turn out to be dispositive.
They may get away with it, just like Hillary got away with it, because we spent our time fiddling like Nero and Roe Byrne.
See, I tend to agree with you.
I don't think there's any excuse at this point not to send out these subpoenas.
I think the time has certainly come.
And the next time I have James Comer on, I will ask him.
However, it's taken them a while to get enough material to lead up and enough evidence and enough testimony, including Devin Archer's, to get to the point where they have really, really specific questions now for Hunter that they didn't have at the beginning of their investigation.
You got to concede that point.
Then you bring them in again, Sean.
They've made that argument to me.
Well, now's the time.
I agree.
They need to subpoena him.
I would do it today.
Right.
So there's that, but I don't want to over-torque just the oversight features of my grievance.
It's also about the money and the spending.
And you and I talk about this frequently.
We promised individual single-subject spending bills, and September 30th didn't move on the calendar.
It didn't appear on a new day this year.
We knew it was coming, and we didn't get ready to have the programmatic review of how this government weaponizes and spends money.
So now you've got McCarthy and our folks in leadership wanting us to vote for a continuing resolution.
And a continuing resolution funds Jack Smith's election interference.
And any Republican that is willing to keep funding Jack Smith's election interference isn't worth their salt.
And we ought to reject wholeheartedly any effort at a continuing resolution of the Biden government and Jack Smith.
So let me ask you what the strategy ought to be, but we've got to also look at the reality of what you're dealing with.
You've got a four-seat majority.
And also, let's be honest, you have rhino-Republicans that are part of your coalition, correct?
We both agree on that?
Yeah, and part of our leadership.
Okay, so my question to you is, if you can't get enough Republicans to vote for the budget and stand firm on a strategy that, for example, which was one that I would agree with and push, and that is to force government to rein in their reckless spending.
And I agree with you on the budgets.
I think you passed one out of the 12.
Well, you've got 11 days to do the other budgets.
I don't think that's really enough time unless they've really done the legwork leading up to this, and I'm not sure they have.
So here's, but here's my specific question.
How do you navigate a caucus that has all these disparate groups?
You've got the Freedom Caucus, which I support probably the most.
You've got the Tuesday group.
You've got the study group.
You've got the Rhino Group.
You've got all these disparate groups.
How do you get Republicans first to come up with an agreement and a strategy?
That's, to me, seems to be what you all have to do because it's my belief, Matt, and correct me if you think I'm wrong, that you're going to win together or lose together, and there'll be no in-between.
No, we certainly rise and fall together, which is why I think we need to be focused.
Here's the way you do the coalition building that is necessary.
You have to have single-subject bills with open amendments.
That way, everybody from the most conservative to the most liberal Republican can offer their ideas and have them voted on.
And the good news, Sean, is we actually did this with the immigration bill that we passed.
It was terrific.
Unfortunately, the Senate won't take it up.
We should force it into the budget.
We also did it on our national defense bill.
And so on non-spending bills, we've had the courage to have open amendments.
And then guess what?
Sometimes we only pass them by one or two votes.
But by golly, we've been passing major bills like that on the House.
Unfortunately, when it comes to spending, the lobbyists in the special interests want all this stuff bundled up at the very end and tied together and log rolled so that you don't get the reductions that the American people are demanding and that we promised.
So if we treated the spending bills like we treated the defense bill, I think that we could achieve the coalition that you rightly identify as critical.
See, I don't fear a government shutdown.
And let me just give everybody the reality.
This is an issue that is often demagogued by Washington swamp creatures as if this is the worst thing in the world when the government shuts down.
First of all, the government never shuts down.
Essential services always are going to be funded.
Our military, they're going to work every day.
Social Security checks, Medicare checks, all of that continues to be fully funded, et cetera.
And usually what ends up happening is a lot of people that work for the swamp, they end up getting a free vacation and get paid in the end.
They'll get back pay.
Am I wrong about that?
No, you're right, Sean.
And remember, out of the House, we passed a single veterans bill.
It is my hope this week we'll pass a defense bill.
And, you know, if we could shut this entire economy down for months, I certainly think we could shut down the Department of Education and the Department of Labor for a few weeks, and I would suggest forever, but we could shut down some of those as we sort through the individual spending bills.
That's how the swamp gets away with it.
The reason I want to change Washington is because going forward forever, I want to do this in a more adult and disciplined way, not the way that just has everybody throw their hands up in the air around Christmas time.
All right, so this sounds like a noble fight.
Now let's talk about how do you get there and do you have the support to make this happen?
Here's what I know.
I put in the deal in January with McCarthy that he had to give us votes on term limits, that he had to give us single subject spending bills, that he had to give us votes on a balanced budget.
And if he doesn't do those things, the only tool we have left is a motion to vacate.
You're kind of skipping around a little bit, and I discussed all those issues that you had mentioned in your speech today.
Term limits, balanced budget, individual appropriations bills, full release of J6 tapes, no spending cut to raise the debt limit.
I brought up all of them.
My question is very specific, though.
How do you get the coalition just on the budget issue first?
How does a coalition now build?
And do you think it's doable?
I do think it's doable if we have open amendments, because then people will get to see whether or not their ideas are being just shuttled away by virtue of the leadership or what's not.
Okay.
Is there agreement on open amendments?
I do believe that we have made major progress on that.
And I'd give the speaker some credit on that.
But you can't have amendments to bills that don't exist yet.
And these bills should have existed previously.
And Sean, you know what?
It's going to be hard.
And there are going to be some bills that go down.
You know, in both parties, there's this theory that you can never put a bill on the floor that might lose because it would embarrass you.
And we've got to get over that.
One way to build the coalition is.
No, I like putting everybody on record where they stand.
I disagree completely with that strategy.
I want people on record, and I want them, even if you lose that particular battle, you can win the war because then you can run on it, and they have to defend it.
That's exactly what we did on the defense bill with DEI.
There were about 10 Republicans who voted to keep features of DEI in the defense bill.
Now, my amendment didn't pass, but then I didn't vote against the defense bill.
I took the wins that we had acquired to really put our military back on the right track.
And I think that's the type of teamwork that we can engender.
Okay, so where are you in terms of discussions with the disparate groups that I mentioned?
Well, I do what I can to lay out an argument and communicate with them.
I've been in different districts all across the country from Los Angeles, California to Arizona to Florida.
And, you know, the American people right now don't believe the Republicans in Congress are fighting hard enough.
And I think I may have a rare window of opportunity to work to bring people together now that folks have heard that feedback from their districts during the month of August.
And now I think it's time to really get to work.
It's time to give people hope and inspiration and show them action.
And, you know, ABC.
Here's the big question, though.
Will every member of the caucus be willing to do the same?
I hope so.
And I'm just talking about process, not whether you win or lose the argument and whether or not your vision wins.
I want to know if the Republicans are going to unite in the fight.
I sure hope so, but there has to be a fight worth winning.
If you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
And dithering about, as we have for eight months, isn't going to cut it anymore.
I can't speak for every member of the conference, obviously, but I'm trying to be the best example of a fighting congressman for my district that I can.
And I think that others should see the value in the procedural reforms and in the substantive actions that we're going to be doing.
And where are you with Speaker McCarthy now?
Because, you know, you threaten to vacate the chair today.
So, and you even threaten, I think, to partner with Democrats to do so and remove him as speaker.
And maybe you'll be successful at that.
If that's the case, where do you end up?
Well, probably off of his Christmas card list.
Well, forget about that part.
Where does the Republican majority end up?
With a Democratic speaker?
No, of course not.
We'll have to reconstitute.
Look, in any type of coalition government, when the coalition dissolves, you have to put it back together again.
And we've seen that in parliamentary systems around the world.
Ours is obviously different.
But the coalition that Kevin McCarthy has with House Conservatives is dependent on him coming into compliance.
We're giving him the opportunity to immediately come into compliance with the deal he made.
By the way, Sean, I'm- By the way, I think you should schedule votes on term limits and a balanced budget and have the individual appropriations bills and no spending cut to raise the debt limit.
I agree with all of that.
Right.
So Kevin McCarthy should as well.
And if he does, then I think we'll be on better footing going forward.
Matt Gates, always love having you.
Thank you.
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We'll check in with Eric Schmidt, Senator Missouri.
And we've got some updates on big tech and other issues we're going to talk about and a big win he had in court this weekend.
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