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John Solomon - August 21st, Hour 2
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All right, hour two, Sean Hannity Show, 800-941.
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We're going to get to our friend John Solomon, investigative reporter, editor-in-chief, justthenews.com.
He is already in Wisconsin for Wednesday night's debate, which is good because I'll be there doing the spin room show right after the debate ends.
Looking forward to that.
But he's got a number of stories that he's working on this week.
We discovered a lot over the weekend.
We now found out from the New York Times that the Department of Justice planned to let Hunter Biden completely off the hook.
And if it weren't for James Comer and Jim Jordan, who will be with us at the bottom of the hour, Jim Jordan will be, until the whistleblowers emerged, they planned on just pushing all of it under the rug.
And not only did whistleblowers stop the cover-up, but Hunter Biden's lawyers now want them to be prosecuted for daring to speak out against special mistreatment that they the truth tellers.
I thought Democrats love whistleblowers.
Even hearsay whistleblowers, only if they're against Donald Trump.
Anyway, which is a violation of Biden's promise.
He said he would protect whistleblowers.
Anyway, John Solomon, thank you, sir, for being with us.
How's things in Milwaukee?
They're heating up, getting ready for the big debate Wednesday night.
Candidates start rolling in tonight, tomorrow, and going to be an exciting week in Wisconsin.
You know, it's interesting.
The reaction, all the discussions all weekend long and all last week was, well, Donald Trump's not going to show up.
And I'm like, I'm thinking, if I'm a Kennedy, with Donald Trump taking out 99% of the oxygen in the room, why wouldn't you be glad that he's not showing up?
Yeah, I think that's right.
I think, listen, this is a chance for one of the pack who's all way behind Donald Trump.
One of the pack to maybe show that they belong to be the true number two and go ahead to head with Trump.
So I think most of the candidates, despite their public protestations, are probably happy that they get a chance to fight among themselves with the hope that one of them jumps in there and becomes the bona fide number two.
We'll have to see if that happens.
President Trump, meanwhile, is way up in the polls, as many as 50 points up in some of the national polls.
All the early battleground polls, he's 25 to 40 points up.
So he's a formidable leader right now, and someone's going to have to emerge from this pack soon to make this a race, or President Trump has a good chance of running away with it.
All right.
And obviously, sure, his legal issues are going to complicate a lot of things.
I'm not so sure that everything's going to work on these prosecutors' timeline in the middle of a primary season and a presidential election year.
That's going to be interesting to follow.
But now even Democrats, John Solomon, are acknowledging what you and I have been saying for a long time is that Joe Biden has a real scandal that is emerging on its own, even though there's almost been a complete total media blackout on this.
You've got two to three stories I know you're working on this week.
One of them, you're going to be breaking on Hannity tonight.
I don't know how much I'm allowed to say, so I'll let you take the ball and run.
Well, listen, ever since the summer of 2019, after I broke the original story about Joe Biden bragging that he had fired the Ukraine prosecutor, who just happened to be investigating his son's company, we have been digging for documents because there was a story told that doesn't really make a lot of sense.
The story was this had nothing to do with Hunter Biden or his company or the concern that Victor Shokin, the Ukrainian prosecutor, was really going after the company.
This was official U.S. policy, and U.S. official policy had determined that Victor Shokin was corrupt and needed to go.
And when I heard that story during the impeachment, it didn't make sense to me because Victor Shokin had just gotten on the job.
He'd only been on the job a few weeks.
And so it didn't seem plausible that he would be already deemed corrupt so early into his tenure.
Normally, you give a guy a year or two to see if he can clean things up.
What we've done over the last three years is file lawsuits through litigation, FOIA litigation, worked with sources inside the State Department and others, and we went and got the official documents.
Was there an official U.S. policy about giving the billion-dollar loan guarantee?
That's the thing that Joe Biden bragged.
He withheld to get the prosecutor fired.
And was there a recommendation about whether Victor Shokin was not doing a good job or doing a good job?
And what we found was there was a task force.
It was directly advising Vice President Joe Biden before he left for Ukraine in December 15, where he made the famous threat and forced the firing of the prosecutor Victor Shokin.
That task force concluded the opposite of what Joe Biden did.
You're going to see in the documents we make public on Annity tonight that the State Department, the Justice Department, and the Treasury Department working together made a recommendation in the fall of 2015 that Ukraine had made enough progress on reforming itself and getting better anti-corruption efforts and it deserved a billion dollars.
It recommended that Joe Biden give the billion-dollar loan guarantee, keep the prosecutor in place.
Joe Biden then grabs this recommendation and takes it into his office and it gets flipped around over the holidays, Thanksgiving holidays.
So you're going to be able to see that the actual policy was opposite of what Joe Biden did.
You can see the actual documents.
There's even letters going from top State Department officials praising Victor Shokin, saying they were impressed with what he was going to do.
When some of Victor Shokin's team came to Washington to meet with the Obama-Biden administration, they said they were very impressive.
They were very excited.
They thought this team was actually doing a good job.
It is 180 degrees opposite of what the Democratic narrative has been since the 2019 impeachment trial.
All right.
So this to me is now unfolding.
Everything that Joe Biden told the country, I'm trying to keep it simple here about never having discussed these issues of foreign business dealings with Hunter, his brother, or anybody for that matter.
That turned out to be completely not true.
And just the opposite was true.
We know that he was meeting with these foreign business partners.
A number of meetings took place at the Cafe Milano in one instance.
Then we had other instances, for example, where Joe is calling into these meetings where the foreign business partners are there and everyone's trying to just brush that off as, oh, that's just a father talking to his son and his friends.
No, that is him closing out these deals for Hunter.
We know Hunter at the time was a crack addict.
We know also that Hunter had no experience in these fields.
So, and then we can look at two very specific cases.
We know, especially on the issue of energy, Hunter has no experience.
Okay, Hunter has no experience, but he's meeting with Burisma executives in Dubai.
At this time, he's being paid.
He's on the board, and they say they need D.C. help.
Joe Biden, on December 4th, 2015, calls or Hunter and the Burisma guys call Joe Biden.
Joe Biden picks up the phone.
They have a conversation.
Five days later, Joe Biden is speaking before the Ukrainian parliament.
And also, that's the day that he withheld a billion taxpayer dollars, gave them six hours to fire Victor Shokin, the prosecutor, and son of a bee.
They did it.
And what you're saying now is his argument that this was about corruption is not true.
Well, what I'm saying is that he said he was carrying out official U.S. policy.
The official U.S. policy, the document that I can find documenting the official U.S. policy, told Joe Biden to do the opposite of what he did that day.
They told him that Ukraine clearly had done enough with the anti-corruption efforts in its prosecutor's office to warrant getting the billion dollars.
Joe Biden does the opposite.
You're going to see over, we're going to tell this story in increments over two or three days.
This is a very complicated story.
You're going to see over the two to three day period that the State Department makes a recommendation, give the billion dollars.
And they're even saying things like, hey, the prosecutor's office is doing some good stuff.
We like what they're doing.
Go ahead and do it.
Joe Biden and his office grabs it into their little cabby.
They don't even tell the Ukrainian ambassador, the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine.
They don't even tell them they're changing the policy.
They come up with new talking points saying we're going to fire Shokin.
And then they go over and they deliver those in December 2015.
Now, while that's going on, that sudden change that about face that you see in these documents, Hunter Biden has his own panic.
He and Devin Archer and others are worried because there are two major newspapers, the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, threatening to write stories that Hunter Biden's serving on the board of a corrupt company.
And they're panicking.
They're even coordinating their responses with his dad's office, the vice president's office.
Those two tracks parallel.
As Hunter Biden's concern about Shokin and the investigation goes up, the recommendation from the U.S. State Department gets flipped by Joe Biden to let's get rid of Shokin.
Now, why is that significant?
Just in the last couple of weeks, Devin Archer, Hunter Biden's business partner, has told us that Burisma was pressuring Hunter Biden during this very window, the very window where Joe Biden's office makes a switch in policy.
They're pressuring Hunter Biden to take care of this situation with Shokin.
Do not let Shokin escalate this investigation.
And Hunter Biden said it was becoming, or excuse me, Devin Archer was saying it was becoming a big problem for Brisma.
The pressure was on Hunter Biden.
That's why they have that meeting in Dubai in 2015.
So Hunter Biden's being pressured.
Joe Biden's given a recommendation to keep the prosecutor, give him the billion dollars.
As the pressure mounts on Hunter Biden, Joe Biden flips around and does the opposite thing.
Opposite of what he was recommended to do.
He threatens to withhold the billion dollars and force the firing of Shokin.
It's really unbelievable.
So, I mean, I think this is pretty damning.
Quick break.
We'll come right back.
More with investigative reporter, editor-in-chief, justthenews.com, John Solomon.
We'll check in with House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan at the bottom of this half hour.
Wednesday, don't forget, we'll be doing the spin room post-debate analysis show on Fox.
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We'll have some of the candidates on.
I'm not putting all the candidates on.
I have no obligation to do that, do I, Linda?
Especially people we know are not going to win.
Definitely not.
And that aren't worth our time and sound like Democrats.
I'm not interested in those people.
No names mentioned, Chris Christie, and others.
Anyway, that'll be this week.
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John Solomon is with us.
He's ready in Milwaukee for the debate on Wednesday night.
We'll be doing the Spinroom show immediately thereafter.
I think you will want to tune in for that.
Sometimes that's almost better than the debate.
Anyway, John is the editor-in-chief, JustTheNews.com, investigative reporter.
So far, the media has been very reluctant and resistant to even do the story.
However, they're now being forced to cover the Hunter Biden part, but that's a baby step for them.
And I think the reason they feel so compelled to do it is because the evidence is now becoming so overwhelming against Joe that there's almost a feeling and a sense I'm getting that they're willing to sacrifice Hunter Biden as long as it protects Joe Biden, especially during an election year.
Is that a fair analysis?
Listen, I think that was sort of the path that they were going down.
I think in the last few days, particularly in the weekend talk shows and even the end of last week's news shows, you started to see anchors who used to call this stuff conspiracy theories saying, you know what, Donald Trump was right and Joe Biden was wrong.
It starts with the idea that his family didn't get any Chinese money.
We now know there were millions of dollars of Chinese money, just like we reported back in 2019.
There's also real concerns that the way what Joe Biden described as his lack of contact with his son and his business partners, that that hasn't hold up.
The last part of the 2019 story that has held up the test of time is that Joe Biden really was just carrying out U.S. policy when he fired Chokin.
That's the last of the three sort of major lines that Joe Biden fed the American people in his effort to win the presidency in 2020.
People are now going to see documents that say, well, that's not true either.
And if all those things are not true, why was Joe Biden lying to us?
I think the media is starting to come around to the idea that maybe they didn't get an honest story from Joe Biden back in 2019 or 2020.
What are we all supposed to think now that we know that David Weiss was ready to deep six all Hunter Biden charges?
This is a four-year investigation.
Look at the speed of light at which, you know, the special counsel investigating Donald Trump Jack Smith has moved at, you know, versus, say, for example, this guy, Robert Hur, a special counsel investigating the top secret classified document issues involving Joe Biden.
You know, look at Hillary, of course, got a pass as well.
But when David Weiss was ready to deep six it, the only thing that prevented him from doing that, and then it evolved into the sweetheart deal that would have pretty much buried it all anyway.
And now he's the special counsel, but he also has these conflicts with Bo Biden and work closely with him.
I mean, now we know why this thing has gone down the way it has, don't we?
Well, listen, people have said for a long time the Justice Department is sick.
It has problems.
It is not operating functionally.
It has a two-tiered system.
You see that again in the Hunter Biden case.
You see, and there's some conflict.
There was some question about whether the assistant prosecutor Leslie Wolf was ahead of her boss and maybe trying to get a better deal than David Weiss was trying to do, or maybe David Weiss did sign off on something earlier and then pulled back from it.
Whatever the case, it is irrefutable that the morning that we broke that story.
In fact, I broke that story about the IRS whistleblowers, that the case began to take a very different turn, that the idea that there was going to be scrutiny in career officials calling out the prosecutors for giving a sweetheart deal to Hunter Biden and Joe Biden's son, that that was changing the dynamic between the defense attorneys and that.
Now, it shouldn't be that way, right?
It should be that the Justice Department should make a decision based on the evidence.
They don't look at the political prominence of the person.
They just make it based on the evidence.
That's clearly not the case here.
And optics was a matter right from the beginning.
The IRS agents were told they couldn't interview Hunter Biden.
They didn't like the optics of that.
They didn't like interviewing his grandchildren.
They didn't like raiding a place that had evidence in it that maybe the FBI could find and then the IRS could find wrongdoing.
And all throughout the Delaware case, there has been an infection of politics where no politics should have been.
And I think this latest episode with the documents that came out this weekend, another sign that the Justice Department is malleable to politics when, in fact, it should just be focused on the law and evidence.
All right, John Solomon, we're going to be looking forward to these stories.
You're going to break the first one tonight on Hannity, others throughout the week, 9 Eastern, and you'll be on this show as warranted.
And I get to see you Wednesday night in Milwaukee.
And I'll buy you a beer and a steak or whatever else you want to eat.
How's that?
Sounds like a good plan.
I can't wait.
All right.
It's on me.
You do so much work for the show that, you know, and you're always willing to share your hard work.
We appreciate it.
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Our friend Jim Jordan is back with us, Congressman Ohio.
Sir, how are you?
I'm fine, Sean.
Good to be with you today.
Let me just get your quick reaction to one.
We see we had these IRS whistleblowers testify before the House Ways and Means Committee, and now we discovered that Hunter Biden's lawyers demanded that Joe Biden's DOJ prosecute them.
We learned that Hunter Biden's investigator and prosecutor, now special counsel David Weiss, was friends with and worked side by side with Bo Biden, Hunter's brother.
Maybe that explains why he let the statute of limitations run out.
And more importantly, the New York Times reported that David Weiss was ready to not charge him with anything at all.
And only because of the IRS whistleblowers did they come up with a sweetheart deal, which thankfully the judge actually read and questioned the prosecutors about.
And new documents show that Hunter Biden's lawyers also threatened to force Joe.
They would threaten to force Joe, the president, to testify if charges were brought against him.
Excuse me, that sounds like an intimidation effort on a couple of fronts there.
Yeah, and no one believes the last one.
No one believes that Joe Biden was really going to sit on the witness stand and face cross-examination.
I mean, the president of the United States, particularly, and you hate to say this, but this Joe Biden, who doesn't seem to be able to put a couple sentences together and get through a day.
So nobody believes that.
But I thought their key takeaway was what you said before that, Sean, where the sweetheart deal was going to be even sweeter because they weren't even going to charge Hunter Biden with the client.
He wasn't going to have to plead guilty to anything was the initial take.
And then Mr. Shapley and Mr. Ziegler came forward with their testimony that has stood up under cross-examination from the whole, all the Democrats on the Oversight Committee stood up under pressure.
Their testimony has been consistent.
Their testimony has been credible.
Their testimony has stood up to a cross-examination.
And the White House's story, of course, and the Justice Department's story kept changing.
So to me, that was the key takeaway.
This deal was even sweeter than we thought what they initially proposed that the judge turned down for goodness sake.
But none of it happened if those two guys, Mr. Ziegler and Mr. Shapley, don't come forward.
It really is.
It's even more corrupt by the day.
And, you know, this is becoming, I'm calling it the Joe Biden bribery and money laundering scandal allegations here because Joe Biden lied repeatedly as a candidate and as a president about ever even speaking to his son or brother or anybody for that matter about any of these foreign deals.
Not only did he speak to them, but he was meeting with oligarchs at times that were pivotal to money transfers to Hunter.
Hunter was an admitted drug addict at the time.
He had no experience in energy in the case of Burisma.
Then you look at the phone calls.
You know, Devin Archer said over 20 of them that he knows of.
And he wasn't even on the December 4th, 2015 call that I went over with John Solomon the last hour.
Five days later, Joe was in Ukraine talking about corruption.
John Solomon is saying that, no, Poroshenko and the administration have been cleared of the corruption issues, so giving the money was not a problem.
So Joe leverages the billion dollars, gets the Burisma guy fired, but he was on the phone five days earlier with Burisma executives, and they had been sending these notes to Hunter.
We need D.C. help.
No wonder he fired them.
And as a result, Joe, I'm sorry, Hunter, with no experience, continued to get paid money.
That family continued to be enriched.
Yeah, D.C. helped because they were under pressure.
They said we're under pressure from the prosecutor from Great Britain.
And these are the two ketos at Burisma making that phone call back in early December.
And as you say, five days later, Joe Biden starts the process, goes and gives the speech in Kiev to get rid of the prosecutor themselves.
But yeah, it's dinners, it's phone calls, it's 30-some meetings with one of Hunter Biden's partners who shows up at the vice president's residency, shows up at the White House.
I mean, and yet he said, no, no, there was no involvement whatsoever.
That just doesn't stand up.
And again, I go back to the whistleblower's testimony does.
It does stand up.
Joe Biden, what he said, and maybe more importantly or as importantly, what Merritt Garland, what David Weiss have said about how they conducted this investigation.
And now the special guest.
John, the special counsel, for goodness sake, we need a special counsel to investigate David Weiss and Merrick Garland and how they've handled this thing, but that's not what they did.
They made the very guy who put the sweetheart deal together, who wanted it to be even sweeter before Mr. Shepley and Mr. Ziegler come forward.
We make that guy, Merrick Garland makes that guy the special counsel.
Nobody gets the time for a special counsel.
The time for a special counsel was about at 12.02, January 20th, 2021.
A couple minutes after Joe Biden becomes president of the United States.
That's when we needed a special counsel because they'd been investigating Hunter Biden for two years, and now his dad is the president.
If ever there was a situation that said we need a special counsel, it's that situation.
But it was at that time, not now, not two and a half years later, when you tried to shove this sweetheart deal through.
That's what people look at now.
They say that's what's so wrong with how the Justice Department handled this thing.
And that's why we're looking to get to the bottom of it.
And we're calling in more people that we need to talk to who were in some of these important meetings.
Well, it sounds like everything you've been investigating about whether the FBI and the DOJ have been politicized and weaponized is so relevant here.
Then you could add on top of that, just prior to the 2020 election, the months leading up to that, the FBI that had the laptop of Hunter since December 2019 verified its authenticity the latest March of 2020, have FBI agents meeting weekly with big tech companies.
And what are they learning?
What are they telling them?
Oh, you might likely be a victim of disinformation.
That disinformation may be about Hunter or Joe Biden.
And specifically, both Twitter and Facebook independently asked the FBI when the laptop story came out, is this true?
But they wouldn't corroborate that which they know was true.
Yep.
No, they sure did.
You know what I find interesting is the FBI was investing.
The Justice Department was investigating Hunter Biden even before they got the laptop.
They were investigating him a year before that.
Then they get the laptop.
They know the laptop's real.
They allow the American people to believe it's not.
They allow the American people to believe it's some Russian information operation right up until the election.
It comes out that they have the laptop.
And the New York Post reports it.
They get that story.
Basically, they allow that story to be suppressed so the country doesn't get the truth.
But they had all this going on, and they still tried to put together a deal that would say Hunter Biden doesn't have to plead guilty to anything.
That's how wrong, that's how this double standard we've been talking about, that's how obvious this thing is now to the American people.
And that's why we're so frustrated by what we see here.
And then, of course, what they've been doing to President Trump.
And maybe it's why this country song has went number one or whatever it is, and 20-some million people are looking at it because American people are so frustrated by all this baloney.
How could they not?
You know what?
Because it is corrupt on so many levels.
Now, let me go to your committee, the Judiciary Committee, along with the Ways and Means Committee.
You issued subpoenas now to IRS investigators and the DOJ and DOJ officials present at or with direct knowledge of a meeting of October 7, 2022, in which David Weiss claimed that he was prevented from bringing charges against President Biden's son for tax crimes.
Now, remember, under Weiss's, what, four-year investigation, the statute of limitations ran out.
There's a contradiction between what the IRS whistleblowers claim, and that is that Weiss said to them he didn't have jurisdiction to pursue investigations and charges in California and D.C.
And that's what the whistleblowers claim.
Now, both Merrick Garland and David Weiss said, oh, no, no, that's not true.
But meanwhile, these whistleblowers took contemporaneous notes.
Who do you believe here and who are you now?
You're sending subpoenas out for.
Yeah, they took contemporaneous notes.
They sent that email that were these notes on.
They put it in an email, sent it to one of the other individuals who's in that meeting, Mr. Walton, who was Gary Shapley's boss.
So, one of the things that Mr. Chairman Smith and I are looking to do is we've subpoenaed the other five individuals in that meeting.
We want to talk to the two FBI officials who were in that meeting.
The Judiciary Committee does.
And, of course, Chairman Smith and the Ways and Means Committee want to talk to the two other IRS agents.
One of those other IRS agents is the guy I just mentioned, was Gary Shapley's boss, who he sent that email to.
And more importantly, Sean, he got a response from that individual who, in essence, agreed with everything he had in the summary of what took place in that meeting.
But we want to talk to these people to continue to build this case about one thing that Merritt Garland told us and David Weiss told us, and how that doesn't square with what the whistleblowers told us.
All right.
So let's go over the list of people that you think can shed some light on this.
Michael Batdorf and IRS Director of Field Operations, Darrell J. Walden, IRS special agent in charge, Thomas Soba Sinsky, FBI special agent in charge, FBI assistant special agent in charge, guy Raisha Holly.
I mean, are those the people you're sending out these public subpoenas to?
Those two FBI agents who we've sent the subpoenas to.
The other subpoenas from the Ways and Means Committee went to Mr. Walden and Mr. Baddorf.
So those are the four individuals we think are important to talk to.
They were in that all-important meeting, as you described, October 7th, 2022.
This is the meeting that Mr. Shapley, when he testified in front of Congress, said was his, quote, red line meeting.
This is the meeting where he said, there is no way to fix this investigation.
I'm going to have to become a whistleblower, go to the United States Congress, tell them all the irregularities we saw in the course of this investigation, how we were denied the ability to talk to key witnesses, that we would never be denied the ability to talk to, how they would, Hunter Biden's team was given a heads up when we were looking to do a search warrant on the storage unit from one of his offices.
So all the irregular irregularities that they saw.
So this was that final meeting when he said, you know what, we can't fix this.
We're going to have to go talk to the Congress.
And they were brave whistleblowers that came forward.
And as we talked about earlier, but for them coming forward, we know this deal would have likely went through.
And maybe the judge doesn't take the posture she took in that hearing when they tried to get this plea agreement done, but for the fact that she had learned so much because of these whistleblowers.
All right.
Where do we stand with this investigation?
Because, you know, look at the speed at which Jack Smith has been conducting his investigation into Donald Trump.
This guy, David Weiss, wasted four years of our time, went against his own office's recommendation for felony charges against Hunter, was going to offer complete exoneration almost, then has to go with the sweetheart deal.
That falls apart.
He and Merrick Garland were contradicted by the whistleblowers.
So I think he's compromised in the case.
You know, I mean, tell me where we're headed here.
Yeah, you know, you think it's compromised, but Merritt Garden thinks he should be the special counsel and names him special counsel.
No, so Mr. Comer is going to continue to pursue the business aspect of this, continue to look at those suspicious activity reports.
I think there are more out there that he's going to try to get his hands on, continue to go down that road.
We are going to interview these two guys.
Well, we've subpoenaed them.
We'll see what the response is from the FBI and whether we have to fight that in court or how that's going to work out.
Mr. No, you'll have to threaten to hold them in contempt before they do anything like the 1023 form.
We probably will.
Although, remember, the Justice Department said they were willing to make David Weiss available.
He is supposed to come in front of the Judiciary Committee sometime late next month or early October, is what they committed to.
So we'll see if they're still going to honor that.
Okay, but I can tell you how that's going to end.
Tell me if I'm wrong.
I'm now, as you know, I've been appointed special counsel, and this is an ongoing investigation, so I can't comment on an ongoing investigation.
Yes.
Isn't that the likely answer?
I do think that's likely.
That's been the history.
But what changes that is if we move to an impeachment inquiry.
If we move into that phase of an investigation, if we have an actual resolution on the House floor that passes with a majority of the United States House of Representatives that says we are now in an impeachment inquiry phase of this investigation that's been run out of three different committees, if we move to that phase, I think then we have a much greater chance of not getting the response you just talked about, Sean.
And I do think the Speaker of the House has been clear that if we need to go there, we will.
And I think we're getting closer and closer.
And you and I have talked about this every single day.
So when we get back in September, I would not be surprised if that's where we go.
But again, that's driven by where the, if we have the votes, which I think we will with Republicans, if we need to go there, but it's looking more and more likely.
Okay.
Now, is there any Republican that you can think of that would be against an impeachment inquiry at this point, knowing what we know?
Well, some have expressed concerns over the last several months, but that's before we got all this additional insight, evidence, and facts about what was going on.
And this story this past weekend about how they were handling this and all the information it looks like Hunter Biden's lawyers gave to the New York Times and to Politico, I think it just only moves us much, much closer to actually having that vote on the resolution.
We will have to structure that resolution in the right way, frame it the way it needs to be framed, and then proceed with the vote.
But I think members who may have expressed reluctance are getting closer and closer to being able to support something like that, if in fact that's where we go.
I think we're going to wind up being there.
But again, that's ultimately a call for the full conference and for the Speaker of the House.
Do you believe that Joe Biden, with all the lies and all we now know about all his involvement with these business deals and phone calls and dinners and Cafe Milano, do you believe this is a real bribery and money laundering operation?
It's looking more and more like that, this paying for access and influence.
And remember what the confidential human source said, that there was money given for certain policy plans.
That's not the Sean.
I thought this was a good question.
Yeah, I think we're losing Jim Jordan.
All right, Jim Jordan, we're running out of time anyway.
House Judiciary Committee.
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