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Toll for your number is 800 uh 941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Um, you know, when you get involved in the legal system, it is not a fun thing.
And I know people who have been involved.
One of the things that bothers me about a lot of prosecutors is I I think over time, many of them, this for them it becomes a a battle of will.
It becomes about winning and losing when when really lady justice ought to be the goal.
In other words, if if there's enough evidence that suggests that's exculpatory that suggests that somebody, you know, is not involved in any real criminal activity or doesn't meet the the statute level or what we were talking about in the last hour with with Bill O'Reilly, you know, the forty-one crimes uh brought by Fannie Willis down in Georgia.
Um, you know, uh most of these require various forms of what's known as the criminal state of mind.
In other words, that a perpetrator would need to be aware that they're doing something unlawful.
Well well, how do you get inside somebody's mind and find their true intentions?
Now sometimes there might be damning evidence that would prove that.
I am doing this because I'm taking this election whether I won or lost.
Okay, that would be pretty damning evidence.
Um one such case, and it did involve the special counsel Jack Smith, and this was former Virginia Governor Bob McDonald.
And anyway, he was charged with 14 counts uh relating to what prosecutors at the time alleged was the acceptance of a hundred and thirty-five thousand dollars in gifts.
Um now this he was found guilty on eleven corruption counts.
Now the case made it all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, Jay Seculo uh arguing on behalf of uh former Governor McDonald.
And the Supreme Court by nine to zero, uh vacated the lower court's conviction, the whole thing.
Anyway, former Virginia Governor Bob McDonald is with us, sir.
How are you?
Hey Sean, thank you for having me on again.
Appreciate it being on the show last night.
Uh really grateful to tell a little bit of the one quick footnote, uh, and I didn't bring this before.
Uh Jay Sekela was a very important strategist and part of our case.
The Supreme Court case was actually argued by the great Noel Francisca, former Solicitor General of the United States under Donald Trump.
I'm sorry, I knew Jay had some involvement in it.
That's all I apologize.
Great strategist.
And uh that $28 million, that was the sticker price of the legal fees, but Sean, you know, I've a I've been a public servant for 38 years.
Uh had a legal defense fund that raised a little over a million, but there's there's no way a person like me or any average person can pay you know those kind of fees, so that'll that'll be a long time paying that back.
How many years do you think that this took off your life?
I I guess you know, for four years, prop maybe you have figured out how to compartmentalize all this and deal with the the stress that inevitably would come with this.
What was the what were those four years like?
Well, it was almost three and a half to the day, but another another year before that, uh that there was an investigation.
Of course, I didn't know much about it until there's an Easter Sunday front page above the story fold in the Washington Post, uh, which followed about another 18 months of uh literally almost laughable regular leaks by the government of the Washington Post, including grand jury information, all to kind of change the jury pool and I think try to weaken weaken my resolve, Sean.
But I mean we told him from the very beginning.
There's no violation of the law here.
You know, there's no plea agreement.
We're gonna we're gonna fight this tooth and nail.
And you know, I was really fortunate to the top firms in the country, Jones Day home tonight that said it you are there's no crime here.
Uh we're gonna fight this for you.
But the poll on not just me, Sean, but my my wife, my kids, uh four of the five hauled in front of a grand jury, essentially in senuation that they cooperated with their parents and worked with their parents, you know, my own kids, that there was could be obstruction charges similar with some of my staff members, and then the impact on the Commonwealth.
You know, I'm still trying to govern my last eleven months in office and do good things for the people, and uh I've got, you know, this this this battle.
Uh but you know what I I just say, just looking down the road now, the last seven years since the case has been over.
You know, God is in the restoration business on my practicing law of consulting teaching uh on a number of boards, and I've had a lot of redemption in our my in my life, and so many people came to my aid, Democrats and Republicans around the country during that time with amicus briefs being filed, Sean to help me get vindicated.
How many DAs around the country uh wrote uh uh on this particular case and stood up for you?
Yeah, it was astounding.
Um there were thirteen Amicus briefs filed, uh perhaps the two lead ones that were quoted by Justice Roberts in his uh in his uh unanimous opinion.
By the way, it's eight to nothing.
Justice Scalia, as you rec may recall, died two months literally before the oral argument.
Uh I I stand corrected, but with all due respect, I know Justice Scalia think I understand is his judicial philosophy.
He would have been number nine.
Well, he was uh he was the one that written most of the key opinions before that, basically saying all these statutes were unconstitutionally vague, regardless of the facts.
So I there's no question you would it would have been nine nine zero.
Um but um you know it it was a um i it was uh a battle.
I mean just one footnote.
You know, Eric Holder was attorney general states at the time.
We asked to meet with Eric Holder, he would not meet with him.
Uh but the deputy attorney general and other lead prosecutors met uh met with my attorneys.
We gave them about a thirty-eight page brief outlining all the law of uh the land on this, the case law, the statutes, why they're uh uh uh their boundless theories, as John Roberts called it, of interpreting this law with their novel theories,
their two um transactional immunity deals for the for the uh CEO businessman uh who was doing some other stuff that we didn't know about that was wrong, wh why his testimony you know wouldn't be believable, and yet they persisted, pulled the trigger.
And ironically, John Roberts' opinion three years later looked a lot like that brief we gave them.
And I just think you know, they were much more interested, I think, to the point you made at the top of the show in winning uh and than getting it right.
But the amicus bracers too.
One, every former White House counsel.
Now think about this, from Ronald Reagan to Barack Obama, the Brock Obama the Obama administration's prosecuting me, and yet one of their previous White House counsel joins the brief along with three other attorneys general of the United States and spells out in in very strong detail why this is wrong and his theory of the law could not stand.
And then uh attorneys general of the state, forty-six separate states, uh Democrats and Republicans.
In fact, actually more Democrats, likely than Republicans, but eighty-three filed a brief uh on my behalf as well, and then many other Harvard law professors, etcetera.
So it was an outpouring, some of which we asked for, some of which was just happened, Sean, because people saw the case for what it was, thought Jack Smith was wrong, uh, and filed these briefs, and they were very instructive to the judges.
You know, um I'm just looking at uh where we are now, and it seems like we've completely criminalized political differences here.
Uh, you know, I ran through the criminal intent uh bar that needs to be reached when it comes to Fulton County in the case that was charged Donald Trump this week, and I think that's a very hard high bar to reach.
You know, uh you know, if you ask me if Donald Trump could pass a lie detector test that he thinks there was fraud in Georgia uh in the uh 2020 election, he would he'd pass that lie detector test.
I I believe that with all my heart, having interviewed him as many times as I have.
And on the other side of this, then you look at Florida.
And okay, they have the document case, they raided Mar-a-Lago, it's about top secret classified documents, and yet Hillary Clinton had more of them in twenty sixteen, and and James Comey is the infamous press conference and says, Yeah, we found all of these top secret classified uh documents on our server, and yeah, we believe it Was hacked, uh, but no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute.
Uh, when they talk about the potential of the destruction of surveillance video, well, Hillary Clinton destroyed 33,000 subpoenaed emails and devices uh that might have had copies of them with hammers, and and nothing happened to her.
Um so I'm I'm great and Joe Biden had top secret classified documents at four separate locations, no rate against him.
So I'm very concerned about unequal justice under the law, dual justice system, you know, or we don't have equal application of our laws, and we weaponized the justice system that is the executive branch that is Joe Biden's.
You know, that last comment is the greatest concern that I have, as we discussed last night, Sean.
When you when you have a prosecutor who I believe and my takeaways from my own case, like a Jack Smith, you know, who's his his obviously Harvard Law guy had a good career prosecuting uh international crimes, etc.
for the United States.
But but over the five years that he was head of the public integrity section, you know, it was advising Lois Lerner that it was okay to go after conservatives uh for basically free speech issues, it's not tax exempt organizations.
It was the Bob Menendez case uh that which ended in a hung jury, the mistrial uh with John Edwards, and then my case.
You know, he was he may be partisan in his own philosophy, but he has a penchant for going after high profile cases of Democrat and Republican and stretching the law beyond the breaking point, John Roberts called a boundless interpretation, which makes it essentially a vague statute.
And uh and uh And even Justice Breyer had strong comments uh and and voted uh in your favor and voted for to vacate this.
Well, I'm glad you brought that up because you know, we thought Justice Scalia, of course, would be the champion, and then as uh as state would have it, he passed away.
But the the the the champion at the oral argument in uh April 2016 with Stephen Breyer.
I mean, he spent he probably dominated half the argument with the government, and from the very beginning, he and and John Roberts uh just completely discrediting the theory.
And I guess you know, this is the quote of Stephen Breyer and he asked the solicitor general this question.
He said, for me, looking at the facts of this case and looking at giving this kind of power to a federal prosecutor who is virtually uncontrollable to determine what the bounds of the law are is as big a separation of powers problem as I've ever seen.
This is liberal justice uh, you know, liberal justice Stephen Breyer, and I think he was exactly right in why the statutes have to be narrowly constrained, and why prosecutors who would rather win than get it right, uh, who don't call ballot and strikes, but find a target and then go and find the fact that they can make up uh you know the theory of the law,
why that's just dangerous for America, and that's what leads to this weaponization of the system where you target people uh when uh with the tremendous resources of the government, you target them because they're high profile, you stretch the law, and hopefully you taint them in front of a jury so you can find twelve citizens that'll convict him.
That's the danger, and thank God that's why we have a Supreme Court of the United States that got it right in so many of these cases and and reversed uh Jack Smith.
Is it fair to say that one loses four years of their life?
Now I've interviewed Roger Stone, I've interviewed Paul Manafort.
I mean, you you look at their particular cases, all based on this phony Russia collusion hoax.
You know, the John Durham report, Operation Crossfire Hurricane never should have been opened.
The Durham uh report in great detail.
There wasn't a single uh uh point or fact uh of fact in the dirty dossier that Hillary paid for, but yet that dossier, even though the FBI early October 2016 uh offered the author Chris Steele a million plus dollars if he could corroborate any part of it, he couldn't collect a penny, but by the end of the month they were using it as the basis of that that visa application, which at the top says verified, and nobody's held accountable.
I mean, what are Americans to think at this moment of time?
They can get away with that type of lying to a court if I ever lied to a court, governor, I they'd throw me away and uh they lock me up, throw away the key, and I'd never be seen or heard from again.
I'd be talking to myself, doing my show for myself, to myself every day.
Well, felonies are perjury under American law.
But you ask the key question.
What are they gonna think?
And that's the question in every one of these four cases.
What are twelve citizens sitting in judgment based on the facts of the case?
You know, as you pointed out last night, you're going to die to ham sandwich, but what's the evidence that's going to come in?
And then will a jury to try to interpret the law based on the jury instructions.
Will they find a violation?
And you put together this.
You've got the John Durham report that's pretty scathing against even having the special counsel.
You got Robert Mueller, uh, who was you know criticized as a partisan.
But look at the end of the day, he called Ballton strikes and he said there's no no crime here.
You've had two failed impeachments.
You've had this Russian collusion since before the president actually got sworn in.
And now you got four cases that are all set for trial in the uh going to be set for trial likely in the first six months of an election year when he's the leading candidate for the president of the United States.
I think, Sean, even independent voters, which control every election.
The nonpartisans look at that and think, there's just something not right here.
The justice system, which I believe, Sean, as a former prosecutor and former attorney general myself is the best in the world.
It's not perfect.
And in high profile cases like this, we get it wrong when there's prosecutors that would rather win than get it right.
And I think a jury, at least one jury member is likely to think this is way over the top.
They haven't proved it.
It's been a long-standing uh channel uh trial to try to get this gentleman, we're gonna let him go.
I'm not sure Donald Trump can get a fair trial in New York City, Washington, D.C., or Fulton County.
Um, and that concerns the j should be concerning, obviously to him, but concern every American as well, because justice should be blind, and we should have equal justice under the law and equal application of our laws.
Governor, I know you've got an event you gotta run to.
Um thank you for sharing your story, and I hope some of these prosecutors pull back.
It's not about winning or losing, it's about okay, what's right.
You know, justice.
What what what is you know what what's right fair uh for everybody?
I don't want Republican AGs going after people just because they disagree with them politically.
We don't want that.
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All right, Joe Biden opens his mouth, and um after he says the word partisan, see if you can ascertain what it is that he's actually saying.
But then when I sign the bipartisan auction again, which which Ron Johnson is friends from the case.
Wait a minute, go back, let's play it again.
The word after bipartisan.
What is that word?
But then when I sign the bipartisan auction again, which which Ron Johnson's friends didn't vote.
Go back one more time.
I still can't quite make it out.
Let's see if we can decipher this.
But then, when I signed the bipartisan election again, which Ron Johnson and his friends didn't vote, they all voted against.
Nah, he's not incognitive.
Decline, Hannity.
It's very mean of you to suggest that.
Okay.
And he's, You know, he's as strong as Arnold Schwarzenegger back in his heyday.
Can we play the oldie but the goodie though?
The one that started it all?
Started it all, what started it all.
Look, I'll do what he's unable to do.
I'll lead an effective strategy to mobilize through an international pressure.
Isolated and punish China.
Oh, so there's your oldie but goodie.
Are you happy now?
We take requests.
All right, Biden.
Let me play Joe Biden.
Seems to forget the word Maui as he's speaking about the wildfires.
Now remember, he said he didn't want to get in the way.
The problem is, well, they're still looking for thirteen hundred people.
Over a thous a hundred confirmed dead, and getting in the way of what is pretty much now a vast wilderness because the place has been decimated.
So I'm not sure how him going there was such a big deal, although they made the well go I'm going to uh what's it what's the name of that place again?
Is it Maui or not?
Listen.
In the immediate aftermath, the Coast Guard and Navy supported maritime searches and rescue operations.
The Army helicopters uh help fire suppression and efforts on the big island.
Because there's still some burning on the big island, not the one that's that not the one where you you see on television all the time.
Uh-huh.
The big island, uh, not the one you see on television all the time.
That what yeah, that one.
We'll pick that one.
Laurie is in Idaho next, Sean Hannity show.
Hi, Lori, how are you?
I'm good, thank you.
I appreciate you taking my call, and it's an honor to be able to talk to you today.
Oh, it's an honor to have you.
Glad you you could be with us.
Well, you're you're a good voice for America, and I really appreciate everything he say and the truth that you put forth because it's so crazy the way which things we have to listen to.
Uh it's insane.
But I just um have kind of a concern.
Um I voted for Trump in the last election and the one where he became our president.
I think he did a fabulous job.
I'm amazed that anyone can say otherwise.
I think they must have blinders on or be living in another universe.
But um I'm just really concerned this time because of what happened in 2020.
I feel like um what do we do?
Like, Trump's obviously ahead.
He's uh I hope he's our president in 2024, but what I'm concerned about is that I felt just as confident in twenty twenty.
So I would be devastated if we had another uh four years of someone like Biden in office and I think the country and the world would be devastated, to be honest, and you know, I'm I'm very worried, very concerned uh for the country and the world.
I'm worried about the state of the world.
I think every every hostile uh regime is taking full advantage of the fact that the US uh role in the world is completely diminished.
It's the state they know this guy's compromised, and they're gonna take full advantage of it.
And that means Russia, that means China, that means Iran, that means North Korea.
Nobody fears Joe Biden, and that's just a fact, and that's a scary thing.
And and look at the numbers on the economy.
I talked about it earlier.
They're they're just not good.
Americans' wallets are emptying.
You know, the the cost of Biden's uh inflation.
It's been as high as ten thousand dollars uh a year.
Now it's down to about eighty five hundred dollars a year.
Um that's money that people don't have.
And now gas prices are about to go up again.
Exactly.
You know, and and then we have sixty-one percent of our fellow Americans live in paycheck to paycheck, and the average American owes fifty-four thousand dollars, has fifty-four thousand dollars in debt.
You know, and you know, all this Bidenomics, even fake news CNN pointing out fifty-one percent say they think the economy's still in a downturn and getting worse, and it is.
You know, it's look at the price of a you know look at the price of mortgages.
What is that happening?
You know, Americans, Bidenomics, we have more homelessness according to Zero Hedge.
You know, we're leaving more Americans or homeless at a record rate, thanks to Bidenomics.
It's a disaster.
Gas prices right back to nearly four dollars a gallon again.
Home builder sentiment drops sharply.
Why?
Because nobody can afford a seven percent interest rate after years of having, you know, two, three, four percent interest rates.
Nobody can afford it.
Nobody's gonna sell their home.
You know, you want to build new homes, materials cost more.
All this obvious stuff around us, I mean it's like right in our faces.
Who is in I mean, why can't other people see that?
Like I don't understand how anyone can turn a blind eye to that and think that, oh, things are great right now, and everything he's saying to us must be true.
It's it's all such nonsense, and I don't understand why there aren't people who it's not good, and and look what they're doing to Donald Trump.
You know, if you look at the calendar and you know, I've gone over it in great specificity and great detail.
You know, it's it's you look at what Donald Trump has to do in terms of his schedule.
All right, we have the first primary debate, what is it?
I believe next week I'm gonna be in Wisconsin um to do the show after the debate, and I'll have the candidates on, and then all right, uh Donald Trump has to turn himself into Georgia.
Uh then in October, the civil trial with the New York Attorney General ran on a platform of getting one man, one one family, one organization.
Uh okay, probably the the you know, there's no legal jeopardy there.
There's only a financial jeopardy, but then January second, special counsel wants a trial in the DC case, January fifteenth, the Iowa caucuses.
That's also the date they have scheduled for the E. Gene Carroll, you know, defamation case number two, mid uh January to early February, the uh New Hampshire primary will take place, and now they're talking at the same time, what the Georgia case is gonna be brought.
South Carolina at the end of February, say almost the same exact time as as the Georgia case, and Super Tuesday is our March fifth.
And then March twenty fifth, Trump what?
Now he begins the New York City trial with Alvin Bragg.
How does this man run for president with that schedule?
And then in May she's scheduled to begin the classified documents case in Florida.
Right.
Yeah, they've made it pretty darn impossible logistically for him to do it.
What are we supposed to do, though?
That's what I'm asking.
Is as popular as he is and is as great as his numbers are, that was unfortunately you're at the mercy now of our judicial system, which in and of itself can be dominated by judicial activism and judicial activists.
And that should concern everyone.
I mean, there are people that believe in our constitution, fundamental fairness, the rule of law, the presumption of innocence, equal justice of the law, equal application of our laws, and then there are people that are activists and legislate from the bench or have political biases that they carry in with them uh in these cases.
That that should concern everybody.
Uh, you know, DC, I'd I'd rank them this way the worst venue for Donald Trump is DC, New York City not far behind, right behind that is Fulton County, Georgia.
I don't you know, did he think Donald Trump deserves a change of venue?
Maybe maybe Idaho.
That would be a f a much better place to have any trial.
But that's not gonna happen.
That's my prediction.
They'll try, but it won't work.
Hang in there, Lip Laurie.
You know, this is this is gonna play out how it plays out.
I wish we could do more.
Anyway, Ivan is in Florida, the free state of Florida.
What's up, Ivan?
How are you?
Hey, Sean, how you doing, man?
Yeah, Sean, as well as this fourth indictment.
First of all, the system is rigged, the crooks make and break the rules, the crooks run the system, and some of the judges are even political or crooked.
You know, Sean, you know, if if Trump is uh if the Democrats get their way and Trump is prosecuted for for any any of these charges, cheating will have been baked in the cake for all future elections.
Why would you ever contest another election as a Republican for fear of being prosecuted criminally?
Democrats will be able to cheat, they'll be able to cheat with impunity.
I mean, and that's and that's that's what they want.
Now, Sean, I I heard you I heard uh some of the people I asked uh or some of your interviews, they say, why did they wait two and a half years?
It's like Democrats are always two steps ahead of us.
They play a different game, and it's it's like if if uh by f by law, federal uh election records and data, they have to be preserved for twenty two months.
So if they had if the Democrats have brought charges before the twenty two months, Trump would have Trump's team would have been able to get discovery, and they and it Trump Trump may have been able to, you know, um prove some of the things that he he he had been uh charging.
But but after twenty two months, Democrats can destroy the data.
So, you know, it it's like Listen, I I know that I read that Donald Trump wants to come out and and speak to the issue of irrefutable evidence in Georgia.
I think it's a mistake myself.
I honestly, it's elections are about the future now.
He's got to focus on the future, but yeah, he's got to defend themselves.
I take issue with with one thing you said, too, as well.
You know, no, if you're a Democrat, you could call elections illegitimate.
If you're a Democrat, you can talk about other electors.
If you're a Democrat, um, you know, all of this, you're never gonna get in trouble.
And let me play this montage as I say goodbye to you and let you listen.
I believe he knows he's an illegitimate president.
I think it's also critical to understand that as I've been telling candidates who have come to see me, you can run the best campaign.
You can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you.
I think he's an illegitimate president that didn't really win.
So how do you you know fight against that in 2020?
You are absolutely right.
The president is an illegitimate racist occupying the white house, and I do have one very affirmative statement to make.
We won.
And I believe was a stolen election.
And I'm not saying they stole it from me.
They stole it from the voters of Georgia.
I think that pretty much speaks for itself.
We've got one minute left.
Uh, let's give it to Joan in South Carolina.
One minute, Joan, you gotta go fast.
How are you?
Okay, I'm fine.
Uh great, just great to talk to you.
Uh, this isn't my point.
Uh, don't you think we're being conned by the Republicans?
I mean, don't get me wrong, I always vote Republican as a bit of two evil, but don't you think uh it's it's insane that every cricket that went after Trump gets no jail time.
Uh Obama, Hillary Muller, Comey Brandt, Ray Clapper.
They don't even get charged.
Forget about jail time, they don't get charged.
Yeah, I think I don't think they want Trump as our president.
I think they want us to have another uh rhino like McCain or Romney or possibly even Pence.
Um I I just don't think they want things to change.
They know Trump wants to clean things up, they have a dream job.
What is Congress and uh the Senate?
What do they work two to three hours a day, they get stock tips, they become millionaires, lobbyists, uh great benefits.
Why would they want Trump to come in and change things on him?
I think they're I think most of them are against Trump.
And they don't fool me one bit.
I don't think I don't think they're trying hard enough because it doesn't make sense to me.
They haven't been able to put one of these crooks away, and there's in indisputable proof that these people are crooks.
I mean, we we just had I just listened to three different whistleblowers on January 6th that that says that that was absolutely set up by Nancy Pelosi, and they told every reason why and how it happened.
So let me let me just say this.
I mean, we're living in very troubled, very troubled times.
And I know everybody, you know, is very angry, and you should be angry.
Um I just want simple things like equal justice under the law and application of our laws.
And we don't have that.
Because the people, you know, Hillary got off the hook, Joe Biden got off the hook, the people that lied to Pfizer courts got off the hook, the 51 Intel experts looks like has all the ear markings of Russia collusion.
Nobody's held accountable.
They even get to stand by their statements.
And we, the American people, you know, we're the ones that are suffering the consequences of these horrific policies because of the people they want in power.
And now this is what I urge everyone to do.
Vote.
November 2024.
In Virginia, November 2023 for the Senate and uh well, both houses.
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All right, Hannity, tonight, 9 Eastern on the Fox News Channel.
New Fox News poll.
They now have him in double digits at 11 uh points.
Wow.
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