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Kabul: The Untold Story - August 14th, Hour 3
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I was aghast last week to read that Biden has sent billions of dollars into Afghanistan as aid.
While we know for a fact that there are still Americans caught behind enemy lines, tomorrow will be the two-year anniversary of the Taliban's invasion.
That's when they captured Kabul airport.
That's when 13 Americans were killed unnecessarily.
The idea that Joe didn't see the Taliban on the march as they were literally working their way up from the south all the way to the north in Afghanistan.
Every step of the way, they could have been stopped.
They weren't.
There wasn't even any warning sent.
And then all of a sudden, last minute, oh, let's try and get everybody out of here.
And then Joe Biden, you know, leaving, abandoning Americans after he promised he would never do that.
And in an interview with George Stephanopoulos, even to this day now, he's claiming, oh, I was right about Afghanistan.
Listen.
Mr. President, when you made a failure in Afghanistan, mistakes, there was a report on Afghanistan withdrawal saying there was failure and mistakes.
The UNESCO and before.
No, no, all the evidence is coming back there.
Remember what I said about Afghanistan?
I said Al-Qaeda would not be there.
I said it wouldn't be there.
I said we'd get help from the Taliban.
What's happening now?
What's going on?
Read your press.
I was right.
I was right.
No, you were wrong.
More recently, we heard the testimony of family members and how aghast they were.
One woman in particular, we played the cut last week.
You know, meets Joe Biden and Joe Biden says, you know, I know how you're feeling.
My son came home in a flag-draped coffin.
It didn't happen.
Another person who was severely injured because he allowed the Taliban to take control of Kabul airport before getting every American and every ally.
Many of these, by the way, allies that had been supporting us during our entire time in Afghanistan, they have been, let's just say, removed from their homes, never to be seen or heard from again.
But it gives the definitive account of what was a disastrous withdrawal.
I think it's going to be, you know, a huge book holding Biden and Democrats accountable, even though they just lie to the American people.
We still have, even according to Wink and Tony Blinken, Americans behind enemy lines that we know they're trying to, they're so-called trying to get out.
Joe Biden, I just played it.
We're going to get all Americans out.
You did not.
He abandoned them behind enemy lines.
Anyway, the definitive account of how the Biden administration's most disgraceful hour and the chaos it unleashed on the world.
Anyway, Kabul about all of this is, you know, it's just heart-wrenching.
There are still Americans and organizations that are trying very, very hard to get Americans trapped behind those enemy lines out of there.
We're joined by Jerry Dunleavey, an investigative reporter.
He's focused on the Justice Department, the courts, the Intel community, national security for the Washington Examiner for half a decade.
And he himself has published many groundbreaking stories of national importance, from China's cover-up of the COVID-19 outbreak in Wuhan to the FBI's atrocious mishandling of the Trump-Russia investigation.
James Hassan is with us, a former Army captain, graduate, U.S. Army Ranger School, an Afghan veteran who got the Bronze Star.
He's deeply embedded in the active duty military and veteran community and assisted so many in these veteran-led evacuation efforts of Afghan allies and American citizens, you know, since two years ago.
Welcome both of you to the program.
Congrats on the book.
Thanks for having us on, Sean.
James, let me start with you.
Let's talk about how many, do we have any idea how many Americans are still trapped behind those enemy lines that Joe abandoned?
I can't let Jerry speak to specifics about numbers, but we know it was far more than the administration ever acknowledged at the time and still acknowledges.
The line over and over as we're moving closer to the end date on August 30th was there's about 100.
And it turns out it wasn't about 100.
It was thousands.
And the most atrocious part of this is that a blue passport, you know, signifying someone who's a citizen of the United States, for a long time was the most valuable document in the world because it meant that if you were captured by terrorists or in a similar situation, that the American government would come to your rescue.
And here, for the first time in history, we had an American government that left, packed up and left, and abandoned thousands of Americans to the mercy of a stone-age terrorist organization, to say nothing of all of the ones who were beaten by the Taliban while they were trying to get through the gates.
But Jerry, if you want to fill in some more specifics, I'll kick that to you.
Yes, the only other thing that I would add to that is that President Biden made a promise to get all of the Americans out.
He made it after the Taliban took Kabul.
And of course, one of the original sins here was letting it get to that point and the U.S. having to rely on the Taliban for security at Kabul airport.
Because that is what we had been pushed down to is just that tiny airport with the Taliban controlling the rest of the country.
The Taliban was not helpful.
And it turned away thousands of the Afghan allies that were trying to get out and turned away Americans as well, beating Americans and beating and killing the Afghan allies that we were trying to get out.
And what I can say in terms of the number of Americans left behind is many hundreds.
Well over a thousand Americans were left behind when we left in 2021.
And there are currently Americans being held hostage by the Taliban.
That's about as far as I can go with that.
But there are Americans still in Afghanistan who have been captured and are hostages of the Taliban.
You know, and this is the sad thing because this story really hasn't been told except by a few of us that have platforms and voices in conservative media.
And Joe basically got a pass on this entire disaster, Disaster, don't you think?
Jerry, I'll ask you.
Absolutely.
I mean, you know, there's a lot of questions raised about President Biden's age and, you know, perhaps his fitness.
And I think that, you know, some of those questions are very likely justified.
But when it came to the decision in Afghanistan, this decision to rapidly withdraw by September 11th, the 20th anniversary, in the middle of the Afghan fighting season, without consideration about how we keep the Afghan military fighting so it can keep the Taliban at bay and with no consideration about how we get our Afghan allies and Americans out,
closing Bagram, forcing us to run all this out of Kabul airport.
The driving decision maker behind all of this was President Joe Biden.
He might not be the driving decision maker behind everything in the White House, but our book shows pretty clearly that this was Biden, start to finish, and ultimately this is on him.
If I can add to that very quickly, Sean, one of the things that we reveal in the book is that when Biden first took office, one of the very first questions that he asked in a meeting, and we have this someone with direct knowledge, was how quickly can we get out of Afghanistan?
It wasn't, how can we do this safely?
It wasn't, how can we do this while protecting our allies and evacuating Americans?
It was just simply, how quickly can we get out of there?
And the results speak for themselves.
All right, quick breakmore with Jerry Dunleavy and James Hassan on the other side.
The new book, Cobble, The Untold Story of Biden's Fiasco and the American Warriors Who Fought to the End, Amazon.com, Annity.com, bookstores everywhere.
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All right, Jerry Dunleavy, James Hassan, our final moments with them.
They have the new book out, Cobble, The Untold Story of Biden's fiasco and the American Warriors Who Fought to the End.
Joe Biden, of course, abandoned them.
What are the efforts that are ongoing that nobody seems to really know about?
I've heard about it because I know some of the people that were involved in it.
What can you tell us?
Yeah, sweet, we've spoken quite a bit with those individuals, and I want to be very careful in how I answer to protect the works that they're doing.
But I will tell you that this is veteran-led.
This is, you know, or, you know, intelligence operative, you know, as well.
I just private citizens in their own capacity.
Some of them, after the government fell, actually emptied their own 401ks to be able to continue to rescue fellow Americans.
And to give you an example from just after, you know, a few weeks after the collapse, there was an American family who, the father worked for the World Bank.
And they were stuck and actually, you know, by the grace of God, they were far enough away from the blast at Abbey Gate that they were unharmed by it, but they were trying to make their way to the gates at that time.
And they ended up relying on the World Bank to get them out, even after contacting an individual who worked for the State Department who helped arrange it in his private capacity.
Because the first time that they tried and they showed up at a checkpoint, a border checkpoint between Afghanistan and Pakistan, the embassy didn't show up to pull them through.
And they watched the Taliban beat people who were trying to escape.
And they had to drive eight hours back to Kabul and try again.
And that's not atypical, not at all.
Why is Joe Biden giving billions of taxpayer dollars to Afghanistan and the Taliban?
Because that's where the money's going.
Yeah.
Well, Sean, this is a really significant problem because this money is supposed to be for humanitarian purposes.
The Taliban is not good at governance.
Obviously, half the population, the women, have lost essentially all rights that they have, can't go to school, generally can't work.
The country is destitute and hungry.
This money is supposed to be going to assist with humanitarian aid.
But the problem is that anything that goes on in Afghanistan is now, the Taliban have their fingers in it.
And the State Department and the USAID are stonewalling the effort by the Afghanistan Inspector General because the Afghanistan Inspector General wants to know if the money that is flowing into Afghanistan from U.S. taxpayers is making its way into the hands of the Taliban.
And essentially, State Department and USAID won't answer his questions.
And he has concluded that, yes, indeed, the Taliban is siphoning U.S. tax money that is flowing from the U.S. to the U.N. to the Taliban.
And of course, we know what the Taliban is using that money for to maintain its hold on power, to build up its military.
And the Taliban is also still making payments to the al-Qaeda fighters that are present and training in Afghanistan.
Sean, if I may, I'd like to add one more story about individuals trapped and rescued by veterans groups after the fall, because I think the listeners would appreciate it.
And that's about the interpreter who saved Joe Biden back in 2007 when his helicopter was forced down.
The Biden administration took a whole lot of heat at the very end when this man wrote under a pseudonym in the Wall Street Journal begging for help.
And they got a lot of questions about it.
And later on, they took credit.
He's now out of the country.
But they took credit for rescuing him publicly.
When in fact, they weren't even aware that he was out of the country until he was at a safe house in Pakistan.
And more to the point, when that happened, when they were made aware, they immediately, you know, State Department officials immediately went to that safe house, exposing its location and putting everyone else in danger.
We talked to the individuals who were running it and took that family, left all of the other stranded ones who had been evacuated as well, and then flew an interpreter and his family out of the country and then publicly said it was because of their extensive and long planned efforts.
When in fact, that's nothing because I'm sure that's not the truth.
Well, we appreciate the work you're doing.
America needs to hear it.
I can't believe so many people never talk about it.
For the longest time, we're just counting down, you know, day whatever, held hostage.
Well, it'll be two years tomorrow.
Anyway, Jerry Dunlevy, James Hassan, out with the new book, Cabul, The Untold Story of Biden's fiasco and the American Warriors who fought to end this fiasco.
They fought to the end.
Thank you both for being with us, Amazon.com, Hannity.com, now and bookstores across the country.
Thank you both.
Thank you very much, Sean.
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Your calls coming up straight ahead as well.
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You know, look, if these companies don't want to learn the lesson from Budweiser and Bud Light, you know, have at it.
But it just keeps happening.
And I'm just sitting here scratching my head.
Okay.
I would imagine that if you're in the candy business, you want to sell as much candy as possible.
Linda, you like candy, but you don't eat candy like me, right?
I love candy.
You love candy.
Even in to this day, in your studio, you have candy, correct?
I have a reserve.
This is a very interesting.
Casey, in case you're having a bad day, not caused by me.
Nothing to do with it.
Potentially.
Potentially.
Very rarely is it caused by you.
So Skittles is now the latest company getting pushback.
Many people have soured on the popular candy.
Skittles, to me, the texture is kind of cool, but it's like just a handful of sugar.
I just don't want that crap in my body.
Anyway, but they have new packaging, LGBTQ plus packaging, you know, which says pride, et cetera, rainbows all over the place.
Anyway, so they've gone completely woke.
Okay, now they're getting pushback and people are saying it's all over the place to boycott Skittles.
And by Saturday night, the first post went up and was seen almost instantaneously by nearly 2 million people.
Anyway, the backlash ensued after their title company, which is Wrigley, which in turn is owned by Mars.
They swapped their rainbow-colored package for new LGBTQ plus friendly illustrations and messages.
Not sure why they doubled down on it, but they did.
And this new package features colorful illustration on the black and white background and include phrases like, black trans lives matter and joy is resistance.
Okay, look, if they're targeting one specific market, and, you know, that's fine.
And hopefully, you know, this is going to be a profitable endeavor for them.
I have no problem.
But they have the freedom to do that.
And when people that you know, by the way, have reacted very negatively to politics with products are going to end up boycotting you.
Don't be surprised what the consequences are because they're probably going to be, it's going to be an expensive decision on your part.
And just remember, one other fine point that I think a lot of these companies need to pay attention to is it's back to school season.
We're about a month and change out from Halloween.
I mean, if you're in any store right now, all you see is back to school, school supplies, and Halloween.
So I'm like, you're deciding to make a statement about this when people are buying snacks for lunches and people are buying snacks for Halloween.
It could not be more dumb.
It's like when Eminem's did the thing with the green M ⁇ M. Remember they took her out of high heels and they gave her Adidas shell tops or whatever?
I'm like, why?
Is that what we're looking at?
When I eat a green M ⁇ M, is that going to empower me?
I mean, do you wear high heels?
Not only do I wear high heels, I wear shell tops.
I love Adidas shell tops.
I got about 10 pairs of them.
They're my favorite sneaker.
You know how many times I've worn them since they did that?
Zero.
It sucks.
You have to make a stand with your dollar.
Bottom line.
Hear about this lady who had what she's calling a bad moment on a plane, marketing exec, Texas, you know, demanding that she be let off her American Airlines flight from Dallas to Orlando before takeoff, you know, running up and down the aisle.
I'm telling you, I'm getting the F off this plane.
And there's a reason I'm getting off the plane.
Everyone can either believe it or not believe it.
And anyway, very visibly distressed, saying that there's this mother effort back there and is not real.
Pointing to the back of the plane, causing confusion over who she was concerned about.
You could sit on this plane and you can die with them or not.
I'm not going to.
Anyway, she was allowed to leave the plane before it took off.
And anyway, it was posted on X, formerly known as Twitter.
Does everyone have to change their name all the time?
I have decided I am now calling it Twitter regardless of its name, just so you know.
Anyway, first and foremost, she's apologizing.
I want to take full accountability for my actions.
They were completely unacceptable.
Distressed or not, I should have been in control of my emotions and I was not.
I have no, she must have seen somebody over there she didn't like or something.
I don't know.
That whole story is very, very strange.
It took them like eight weeks to find her.
And the person in the video giving the apology looks nothing like the person in the pictures on the dang plane.
The whole thing is weird.
I don't know.
I'm not sure what that story is about.
Oh, man.
Lionel Ritchie fans, apparently an hour after the show starts.
He's supposed to appear with Earth, Wind, and Fire, I guess, at Madison Square Garden this weekend.
Anyway, abandons the show.
Fans were already in their seats waiting for the performance, blaming it on severe weather, meaning he couldn't land in New York.
And anyway, he had been performing his, you know, sing-a-song all-night long tour in Boston the night before, four-hour drive from New York City.
And instead of an apology, he just said he was bummed he can't be there.
And due to severe weather and being unable to land in New York's surrounding areas, I'm unable to make the show tonight.
I'm so bummed.
We're rescheduling.
People already in their seats.
I mean, that would really piss me off.
It really would.
But wait, so the story is he couldn't get there because of weather?
Yeah, which makes no sense because the people have been seated for an hour.
That's very, very strange.
I mean, if you're going to have a weather problem, you would have been there long before that.
Why do I think there's more to the story?
There's always more to the story.
All right, 800-941, Sean, on number.
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Bob, Long Island, New York, next on the all-new AM-710 WOR.
What's going on?
Hey, Sean, how are you?
I'm good.
What's going on?
Great.
I just want to thank you for everything you do, number one.
And number two, our prayers go out to the people of Maui.
It was a great conversation you had about Afghanistan.
Just my thoughts on Afghanistan real quick, which was the downfall of the United States on the world stage right there.
That started it, in my opinion.
And how we can really get a message out there.
People don't listen to politicians.
How we get out there is a guy like Trump who can raise money and bring along all the 13 people, the parents of these fallen soldiers, and tell their stories because they know it like it is.
I can guarantee it.
They know more than anybody else does about what really went down in Afghanistan.
It's sad.
I mean, when you really think about it, it's just awful.
It's terrible, I mean, and we just, and we abandon our, you know, when they get up and they give them a little time to, you know, bleed their hearts out, but they have a lot to say.
And I guarantee you, people in this country want to hear it from them.
I had this confirmed numerous times when Donald Trump was before he even started any negotiation about a potential pullout, which, you know, he'd been very clear.
He didn't want to remain in these long, protracted, expensive foreign conflicts any longer as president.
And he called the leader of the Taliban.
And remember, the last 18 months he was president, not a single American was killed.
Not one.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And he was, and this has been corroborated by numerous people, said to the head of the Taliban, let me be very clear, before we talk about anything involving a withdrawal.
Well, first of all, he was going to keep Bagram Air Base, which would have been strategically very smart to keep.
And that would have been ours, it should have been.
We built it.
Secondly, he said, let me be clear.
If one American gets hurt, or if you move one iota from where you are while I'm engaged in this pullout, if we have one, I will eviscerate you as badly as I did the caliphate.
And I've been told by numerous people that he literally sent over, I'm not sure the means of communication, fax, text, whatever, email, the exact location of where the head of the Taliban was at the moment they were having that phone call.
I think that sends a pretty clear message.
I could take your ass out right now.
That's right.
And a guy like Kash Patel was right there when he did it all.
He knows it.
Yeah.
Yeah, pretty fascinating, right?
No, I know your time is short.
On the air, real quick, another thought on this appointee of Weiss being the head of the investigation now on Hunter Biden.
The problem is that we're having is the Republicans are giving the Democrats too much time.
Now that this has happened, that was the final straw.
What they have to do is go right from inquiry to impeachment of not only Joe Biden, but also Merritt Garland, to tie them up in court, tie them up in impeachment hearings to give them more problems to worry about because they have too much time and too much resource to go after Trump and try to take him down.
And bottom line, all Trump has to do to push off a lot, and I'm not a scholar, all I have to do, all he has to do is have all his lawyers put together a tremendous amount of discovery, and I think you follow me on that, and put it out there to the court.
They'll have to postpone that for a year.
I'm not sure that, look, I mean, we had Roger Stone on.
Look at Roger Stone's case.
I mean, he was awesome.
I love that guy.
All right, so he had a pre-dawn raid at his house, frogmen, CNN cameras, you know, guns drawn.
And he was, he was literally, the gag order was so prohibitive during the trial and then after the trial.
After he's found guilty.
First they say, well, we don't want to prejudice the jury pool.
But they took away any ability for him to even go on any social media platform, any radio show, any TV show and say, I'm innocent.
That would be freedom of speech that should not be stifled by any judge in any jurisdiction at any time.
And, you know, it's just pretty simple.
But, you know, that's not the way it's going to work.
I'm telling you right now, I don't see a fair trial opportunity for President Trump in New York, in D.C., or in Fulton County, Georgia, where they leaked earlier today and then removed a document about the charges, potential charges of Donald Trump.
Not good on their part.
And why do I believe that was probably an accurate document that's already been made up?
Whether or not the grand jury actually voted on it, we don't know.
Appreciate the call, my friend.
Thank you.
800-941-Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, let us say hello to JT is in Alabama.
What's up, JT?
How are you?
Hello, Sean.
Thank you for having me on.
Thank you.
What part of Alabama are you in?
I'm in Ozark.
I know exactly where you are.
What's going on?
Oh, good.
I faithfully watch you every 8 o'clock at night.
My wife knows I'm coming in the house, and she knows what station to put it on.
And I got to say thank you for opening your series every night with an attack on Biden.
Well, by the way, 8 o'clock Central Time, just for those people, because everyone hears me say 9 Eastern.
For you, that's right.
That's right.
We're an hour behind.
There's one thing you're missing, though.
And I wanted to talk about Devin Arch's phone calls to Hunter's phone calls to his dad.
You know, you're a pretty busy guy in your job.
I know when I had my own salesman and I had my own business, I was a very busy person from 8 in the morning till 10 o'clock at night, reports of this, speeches, whatever.
You were taking people out to dinner.
How many times have friends or family called you where you said, I can't take that call.
I'm in the middle of a meeting?
It happens all day long.
I mean, while I'm doing my radio show, I mean, I have people call me all the time, and I just hit sorry I can't talk now on air.
That's what I'll write them.
I know with my family, my children, I bet you 50% of the time they called me when I was a salesman, I said, I can't take the call.
Let me call you back later.
What you're missing is his son called his dad 20 times and every time he answered the call.
Now, he was the vice president of the United States.
Got to be the second most busiest job in the world.
You know, the president is obviously the busiest.
I mean, you've got to be on call nonstop, and that was when he had a brain, you know, when he was vice president.
You're telling me his son called him 20 times, and he took the call and answered the phone call and talked with people.
That's telling me everyone.
But remember, Joe never discussed his foreign business deals with either his son, brother, or anybody for that matter.
Joe said he never met with his son's business partners.
Joe said that the family never got money from China.
Joe said that Hunter Biden has done nothing wrong.
Well, he didn't have any experience.
He was a drug addict at the time.
What did he offer these companies for these millions?
I understand that, but you're missing this.
These calls had to be pre-planned.
He had to call.
He didn't call him 20 times.
He called him 40 times, 60 times, saying, Dad, I'm going to call you up on this time of day, on this day.
You'll be ready, and you'll be alone in a room because we don't want any witnesses.
You talking to me and talking to these people.
And you take the call because you're going to be the closer.
It's going to be worth $10 million to the family or $3 million or whatever it is.
I don't think he got that deep in the weeds, but he knew exactly what he was doing.
He definitely was the closer.
Remember, Burisma.
You know, Burisma was very clear.
They needed DC help, and Joe gave it to them.
And he got the prosecutor fired.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
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