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Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, got to give a lot of credit to Senator Ram Paul.
You know, all throughout COVID, you know, he was out there oftentimes as a lone voice reminding people about, as a medical doctor, he's also a doctor as well as a senator from Kentucky, reminding people that something called natural immunity exists.
For example, he had gotten COVID early and he decided not to get any of the vaccinations and shots moving forward, boosters, whatever you want to call them.
And anyway, and he was probably the most articulate person interrogating Anthony Fauci over a lot of issues involving COVID.
For example, you know, everybody told us in the beginning that, well, if you get the vaccination, you're never going to get COVID.
You're never going to transmit it to innocent other people.
Well, that didn't last very long, but you would think that these so-called experts and viruses and doctors and the WHO that was nothing but a propaganda arm for the communist Chinese, you know, would have known that viruses mutate and anticipated that and not been so unequivocal in their statements that they were making to the American people, all in an effort to get them to do and comply with what they wanted to comply with.
Anyway, I've been privy to a new book that will be coming out in October by Senator Ram Paul, Dr. Ram Paul, medical doctor that is.
It's called Deception, the Great COVID Cover-Up.
It's going to be out in October.
You can order your first print edition on Amazon.com.
We have a link on Hannity.com.
But Senator Paul also announced an official criminal referral to the Department of Justice regarding Dr. Anthony Fauci.
And he pointed specifically to an email from February of 2020 in which Fauci detailed a call with British medical researcher Jeremy Barar, who was the director of the Wellcome Trust at the time.
And according to Fauci, those on the task force call, including Francis Collins, former director of National Human Genome Research Institute and other highly credible scientists with expertise in evolutionary biology, expressed concerns about the fact upon viewing the sequences of several isolated isolates of what they call the COVID mutations.
They were discovering mutations in the virus that would be most unusual to have evolved naturally in bats.
And there was great suspicion from the get-go that this mutation was intentionally inserted, which would be more in line with the logical thought process of gain of function foul play.
Anyway, Ram Paul, Senator Ram Paul, Dr. Rampaul, I don't know what you prefer to be called.
I think probably doctor would be more less insulting.
Well, you know, anymore, being involved in politics isn't held in the highest esteem.
Your book is phenomenal.
This book is going to scare the hell out of Vauci.
He's going to be looking for an early cop out, I promise you.
The one thing we do know for sure now is that he lied to Congress, and we know it mostly because he's admitted it in private emails.
He didn't mean for these emails to become public.
But the way it works is if you work for the federal government, you go to a federal judge, and people have gone to federal judge and said, we want to see these emails because we think he's not being honest.
And lo and behold, what we have found is virtually everything he said has been a lie.
So he came at first and he said, oh, we're not really funding research in China.
We're not funding research in Wuhan.
And then we found the actual articles and we found the grant number of the money they got from the NIH.
And he says, oh, well, it was a subcontracted thing, but it's not gain of function.
And I said, I came back a month later and I said, I want to give you a chance to correct the record.
You know it's a crime.
It's a felony.
Five years in prison to lie to Congress.
Do you want to correct the record today?
And he went on and on, got all hot and bothered and said they unequivocally have never funded gain of function research.
But you're right.
We got an email last week that came out.
It's from February of 2020.
And he's describing a phone call in which he says all of them, everybody on the phone call was leaning towards the suspicion that this virus came from a lab because it looked like it was manipulated.
But he went on to further say, the reason we're suspicious is we know that in Wuhan they're doing gain of function research to take bat viruses, juice them up, and gain the function of being able to infect human cells.
And he said it explicitly.
And he described the research that he later said was not gain of function.
So he can't even play word games with this anymore.
He's dead to right.
He absolutely lied.
His own emails show that he lied.
And yet, you know, hell's going to freeze over before, you know, Merrick Garland actually does anything about it.
I don't think Garland's going to do anything about it.
And I think, yeah, hell would probably freeze over first.
I mean, is there any statute of limitations issues regarding this?
There probably are.
But I think they'd still be existing when we get a new president.
And this is the frustration of everybody in America.
And you read people's comments to things going on there.
It's like, why don't you do something about it?
Do something about it.
And they don't realize that, you know, other than the House having the power of the committees, no Democrat's going to vote for any investigation of this.
No Democrat is for any committee hearings.
And a million people died in America from COVID.
And there's not been one hearing on the origin of the virus in the Senate.
Democrats do not care.
On the idea of speech, the idea that the FBI is paying Twitter to take things down, telling Facebook they cannot comment on Hunter Biden's laptop.
All of that was done.
The worst infringement of the First Amendment maybe in our history.
And I cannot find one Democrat interested.
I've talked to two in the Senate, but I'm still trying to get them at all interested in a bill that would actually say this goes against the First Amendment.
The FBI should not be meeting.
Can you imagine, Sean, if after our interview, the FBI knocked on your door and said they wanted to sit down and discuss your interview because I said something like, you know, kids don't need a COVID vaccine and we think that's inappropriate.
Can you imagine if the FBI were doing that in newsrooms around the country?
Here's the number of my attorney.
I will not talk to you.
Exactly.
Well, you know what?
The sad thing is, because I grew up revering the FBI, Senator.
I really did.
My grandparents, all four of them came from Ireland.
And my grandfather's brothers, two of his sons became FBI agents.
And in my family, that was like deity.
There's still a lot of good men and women in the field.
90% of them.
I've no doubt.
They're good people that put their lives on the line for us.
But I'm not talking about they're not the ones with the power, and they're not the ones that made the call to meet with big tech companies in the months leading up to the 2020 election.
And even though they had Hunter's laptop in December of 2019 and verified its authenticity no later than March of 2020, that they had these FBI agents meeting weekly with big tech companies, tell them they'll be victims of a misinformation campaign.
And it may be about Joe and Hunter Biden when they knew damn well that laptop was in fact Hunters.
And you're right.
Facebook asked directly, is it Hunters?
And they said, we can't comment.
Why not?
Yeah, and the thing is, is with the Schuber on the other foot, you know, I'm pretty equal, you know, equal parts to both parties.
A pox on both of them when they do the wrong thing.
I've been critical of our leadership in the Senate for spending money and borrowing money and not caring enough about the deficit.
And I'd like to think that if the shoe were on the other foot, and if we were talking about, you know, a Republican's material being hidden, that we would be big enough to say, you know, my goodness, none of this should be suppressed, that speech shouldn't be suppressed.
More speech is always better than less speech.
And you don't fix bad speech with limiting speech.
You allow people to criticize it.
And people are smart enough to figure out the truth.
And the Democrats think people in general are too stupid to figure out truth.
And so they need to figure it out for them and prevent them from hearing things that might be misinformation.
But once you let the government define misinformation, we have a real problem because one person's misinformation is another man's truth.
It's very difficult to determine things.
That's why we have debate.
That's why we have to.
Isn't what the FBI did in this case by censoring the real truth about Hunter Biden's laptop, that being a very real story?
Isn't that a form of election interference?
Without question.
And so they bandy these terms around democracy, election interference from one perspective.
And then you look at it and say, well, you kept out stuff that was bad, deleterious to the Biden campaign.
You kept that out of the news.
Is that not interfering in the election?
And, you know, they've done this to other senators.
They got involved in Ron Johnson's race up there and said that Ron Johnson was guilty of listening to Russian disinformation.
And this was done by the FBI planning the story and planning the meeting.
And he's still been, you know, arguing this thing for a couple of years now, but in the middle of a very close race, that's one of those races, you know, in our country that Republicans and Democrats are almost equal in Wisconsin.
He won, but it was the government getting involved.
The FBI actually got involved in his race to say that he was listening to misinformation from the Russians.
That's pretty chilling.
All right, quick break more with Senator Ram Paul on the other side.
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All right, we continue now.
Our discussion with Senator Ram Paul, who has now officially announced a criminal referral for Dr. Anthony Fauci.
You know, I'm very concerned over the America's involvement in, let's say, these globalist organizations, the World Economic Forum.
I don't like the Paris Climate Accords.
I'm not particularly even fond of the United Nations, which has a history of virulent anti-Americanism and anti-Semitism.
And we fund the vast majority of almost all of these globalist groups.
Certainly at the top of the list would be the World Health Organization.
I believe they became the propaganda arm for the communist Chinese on the issue of COVID.
Let me play for you Biden, Bill Gates, and the WHO director about the next pandemic.
Listen to this.
We do need more money, but we don't just need more money for vaccines for children eventually.
We need more money to plan for the second pandemic.
There's going to be another pandemic.
We continue building stronger health systems and institutions and accelerating efforts to achieve universal health coverage to make sure we're better prepared to tackle the health challenges, including the next pandemic, and there surely will be one.
We need to be prepared for the next pandemic.
When the next pandemic comes, knocking, and it will, we must be ready to answer decisively, collectively, and equitably.
The cost of being ready for the next pandemic is not super large.
It's not like climate change where, you know, 10 trillion, 20 trillion, these are big numbers.
You know, there's a number of things that bothers me about that, Senator.
It was 100 years since the, what, Spanish flu when COVID-19 hit.
But I also interpret that as, oh, America's got to bear the brunt of financing another globalist organization so that they can waste all of our taxpayer dollars.
And meanwhile, like in the Paris Accords, China, India will be viewed as developing countries and pay next to nothing.
Yeah, international conversations and cooperation is good, but in the end, Uncle Sam always gets stuck with the tab.
You know, we have to pay for everything.
We pay for 75% of a lot of these different groups.
But the other thing is, is conversations and international cooperation should never threaten or infringe upon our sovereignty.
And, you know, they've signed this pandemic treaty, and their hope is the next time around that instead of us having only Democrat governors putting us, you know, shutting down our churches and gymnasiums and restaurants, we're going to be taking orders from, you know, the WHO.
And who knows, maybe there's somebody from China in charge of the WHO, or maybe it'll be Russia's turn to be in charge of the WHO.
And we're just going to take orders from the WHO the next time around.
This is a big deal.
We need to fight it.
Now, it's an agreement Biden and them have signed.
It doesn't, we think, have the force of law because they're not going to put it before the Senate because we'll vote it down.
But we shouldn't give up talking about this because anything that endangers our sovereignty, agreeing to international rules, we should never agree to be bound by the Parliament of Europe or the Parliament of England or Russia or China or any other country.
This is a big deal and worth fighting about.
What do you make of the revelation today that Joe Biden, who said over and over again, I never once talked to my son about his foreign business dealings?
Do you think that Joe Biden himself is in a real bribery scandal based on these allegations?
I think it's the tip of the iceberg.
I think there's more to come.
I think in particular, perhaps the most damning evidence is out there, if it's still out there, are the recordings.
It's apparently 15 recordings with Hunter Biden and this fellow of interest in Ukraine, and then also two recordings with Joe Biden.
So those should be gotten.
I don't know, did the FBI ever pursue those?
Do we ever get an answer?
But we're going to get more testimony this week from some of Hunter Biden's associates, and we are learning more.
And you're exactly right about the Ukrainian thing.
The great irony that's lost on most of the mainstream media is that they impeached Donald Trump for a quid pro quo, threatening to withhold aid in order for them to investigate corruption.
Well, Biden did the opposite.
He said, we're not going to give you your aid unless you quit investigating corruption.
And nobody blinked an eye.
And he's proud of himself and talks about it.
But the people that were being investigated, the company that was being investigated was Burisma that was paying his son 50 grand a month.
The whole thing stinks to high heaven, but it needs to continue to be put forward methodically, piece by piece.
And that's what I've been saying to people, and people have misinterpreted it.
I want the House to investigate this, but I don't want them to do a rash impeachment tomorrow.
I want a thorough investigation, form a committee, really look into these things and not jump the gun like the Democrats did with the...
No, I totally agree with you.
I think it's got to be measured.
And I think Democrats have abused the impeachment process.
However, bribery, high crimes, misdemeanors would probably fall right in line with a legitimate impeachment, but also a criminal inquiry.
Anyway, Senator Dr. Rand Paul, by the way, his new book will come out in October, The Great Deception, The Great COVID Cover-Up.
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Not sure if many of you heard Joe Biden over the weekend.
My family, when they want to get an important message to me, they tape it on the mirror of my bathroom.
That is weird.
Listen.
My family, when they want to get an important message to me, they tape it on the mirror in the bathroom.
I'm serious.
You wake up in the morning.
No, it's on the mirror.
I guess I was down early on, Miss Nagamid, 10 years ago.
I was down or something.
And my daughter, Ashley, taped on.
She's a social worker, taped on my mirror.
Happiness is something to do, something to love, and something to look forward to.
Kid and dad, you have all those things.
Isn't that nice?
You want to get the president's attention?
Find a way into his bathroom.
Donald Trump's campaign slamming Biden in a new ad.
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Someone caught in a bribery scandal that made them millions?
Complicit in a government cover-up and uses your government to get special deals for his family.
You call them Joe Biden and acting just like a corrupt third world dictator.
Biden has unleashed a cadre of unscrupulous government bureaucrats he controls to act like rabid wolves and attack his greatest threat, launching one of the greatest witch hunts in history.
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It is an amazing phenomenon.
Every time they come up with a new charge, new attack.
Everybody, at some point, you begin to see this.
This is not about prosecution.
Well, okay, if it's about documents, top secret, classified documents, why didn't they go after Hillary?
Why didn't they go after Joe Biden?
Why didn't they raid Chappaqua?
Why didn't they raid Joe's four locations?
You know, where's the special counsel charging either Hillary or Joe in having top secret classified documents that doesn't exist there?
Why didn't they turn them over?
Why aren't they held accountable?
Of course, no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute.
It's just such a double standard.
And with each new indictment, and there will be, I'm pretty certain, two more.
One will be the special counsel January 6th indictment, and one will be in Fulton County, Georgia, where the DA there will charge them with something.
I mean, I keep reading racketeering, Rico.
I mean, who knows what they're going to come up with?
But they'll make it up.
But, you know, of course, when this plea deal of Hunter, nobody can answer anything about the Biden bribery scandal allegations, can they?
Why did, fundamental question, why did all these countries pay somebody that admitted in open court that he was addicted to substances, including crack cocaine, until 2019, from 2003, during all of those deals with China, Russia, Romania, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, and Mexico, a dozen-plus countries?
Why did they pay Hunter all that money?
And why do you ignore a 1023 form?
And nobody seems to care in the media.
Just such a double standard.
These are unreal times we're living in.
It really is.
All right, let's go to Tom is in New Hampshire.
Tom, how are you?
You're on the Sean Hannity show.
Hi, good afternoon, Sean.
Great to finally talk to you.
First time caller.
First thing I was thinking, let's get off topic a second, but I was thinking at least this way, if I need my crack paraphernalia, I can go to the vending machine in New York versus getting my condiments out of the restaurants.
But anyway.
By the way, that's such a good point.
You can.
You can get, you can go get your.
Well, what do they include?
I think they included crack pipes.
I forget what else they included.
I just don't remember.
I'm not really into the crack culture world.
But yeah, they have vending machines where you get all this stuff for free.
But you can't get an extra thing of ketchup.
But anyway, so the reason I wanted to call is one thing that really hasn't popped up.
I've been watching the hearings with Comer and Jordan doing a great job bringing a lot of this to light.
But I've wondered why has Tony Bobolinski not been called in to give public testimony?
He seemed to be the guy to go to.
I watched the Tucker Carlson interview when it first was on, was it October of 18 months ago?
And he had all his dates down.
He had emails.
He had all that documentation that really would take those pieces and put them together.
But unfortunately, his name has just sort of fallen off the grid.
And I wondered why a lot of the folks that are part of these commissions and committees have not really looked to have him come in and give a deposition or even be there for questioning.
Because I think he has unrefutable information that would really tie a lot of these things together.
And quite honestly, that's what spurred me to go out and get Miranda Devine's book and kind of support what he had brought up.
And she did a great job reporting on it as well.
You know, you raise a good point.
That was a good interview.
I had a follow-up interview months and months later and have spoken to Tony Bobolinski, and he seemed credible to me.
But what he's doing, what he might be involved in, it's one of those things you just never know who these people are talking to at any given time.
So I think maybe his silence, you shouldn't read much into it.
I think the fact that he first identified him as the big guy, and now there are many other references to the big guy being Joe Biden is going to be very relevant down the road.
And that's when we first learned that.
So you raise a good point.
I imagine that he's just biding his time, waiting for his moment, and we haven't heard the last of him.
That's my guess.
And I hope it comes sooner than later because this has been drawn out for so long.
And when you look at, you know, everything says, oh, it's circumstantial.
And I've been listening to all of these things.
You have to be a first-year law student to put the pieces together and go, okay, we've got a convictable case.
Let's bring this forward.
And to hear people in the hallways of the halls of Congress saying, oh, this is all, there's nothing here.
And I'm like, are you aware?
Are you alive?
What are you watching?
What show did you just watch?
Because I watched three and a half hours of very convincing testimony by people that I thought they had their act together and they brought up documents.
And then you have the people, other people saying, there's nothing here.
And I just wonder what they use for rationale sometimes to bring that type of thought process to light.
No, I think you raise a lot of good points.
I really do.
And, you know, we'll see.
All I know is, you know, we're getting some serious information about, you know, as I mentioned earlier today, Biden's de facto lawyer in a shaken, sweaty panic after Devin Archer's hearing, Goldman admitting Joe did coordinate with Hunter's business associates, but he only wanted to say hi.
Let me say hi to all of your big farm business partners, Hunter, especially from some of our top geopolitical foes.
I'm telling you, the walls are closing in.
You can look at everything that they're going to do and charge Donald Trump with, from going back to his old business days in New York with Alvin Bragg, down in Florida, the issue of documents, top secret classified documents.
Of course, the double standard is as flagrant as any I've ever seen or heard.
Then January 6th, okay, there's a lot of information that is exculpatory that nobody has really brought up or brought out.
And we can look at all of this, but I'm telling you, we are going to get to the bottom of all of this.
I really believe that.
Anyway, my friend, appreciate the call.
Thank you, 800-941.
Sean Thomas is in South Carolina.
Thomas's heart is troubled.
Thomas, we can't have that.
What's going on, sir?
Hey, Sean.
What's going on?
So, shout out to especially Butch talking about the addiction, and you did a very good job talking to him about that.
My main concern is what do we do now?
In 2024, we basically don't have anyone that can stop this.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Donald Trump, his uncle was John G. Trump.
So technically, his family has been in this country for a while.
And I think that that's why the deep state, the left, hates him.
But it seems like we.
I'm not sure what I'm following.
I think they don't like Donald Trump because Donald Trump is a threat to the deep state.
I really believe that.
I think he's a threat to the good old boy system and the way things have been going.
And, you know, establishment figures can be Republican or Democrat.
You know, people that I just never thought this could happen in our country.
I never thought that the FBI would be putting cinder blocks, or at least the top echelon, would be putting cinder blocks on the scales of presidential elections.
I never thought that they would prevent pertinent information that they knew was true and prevent it and work hard from preventing it from being disseminated before an election.
I never thought that we'd have a dual justice system that treats Hillary one way, Joe Biden and the Biden family one way, and Donald Trump and conservatives another way.
I never thought that, you know, if Paul Manafort's going to get hit with a Farah charge, why not Hunter Biden, considering he didn't follow the Farah laws?
I agree with you completely.
My concern is: so a lot of people that listen to the news, they're already on one side of the fence or the other.
But a lot of young people are influenced by the media that they get.
And a lot of it is censorship, you know, like you discussed earlier.
So how do we get past?
What do we do in 2024?
I've heard you talk about, you know, kind of meeting the Democrats on their level with the ballot harvesting and stuff like that.
But really, it's a psychological thing.
How do we convey the drugs, the crime, the inflation, all these things?
Where is our hero for this round of this battle?
Because if we don't get one, we're.
I don't put my, I think it's got to be a group.
I don't think it's going to be an individual.
I mean, it might be a leader.
I mean, go to Braveheart.
You know, if you remember Sir Robert the Bruce and, you know, being lectured, if you lead them, they'll follow, and so will I. Remember that moment?
And then he betrayed, in that case, William Wallace.
So, you know what?
There is a need for a movement.
And the movement is simple.
A movement towards conservatism.
Conservative principles work.
That's why I am a conservative.
I'm not a Republican.
I want limited government, greater freedom.
I want less government intrusion into our life, lower taxes for the economy.
I want energy independence because it's smart.
It's good for national security, job creation.
It can make America an energy-rich country.
I want our borders secure.
I want our cities and towns safe and secure so everybody can pursue happiness and the talent that God gave them.
I want a court system where people stay in their lane and understand and respect co-equal branches of government and not legislate from the bench.
I want a constitutional republic that we once had.
On national defense, I believe in peace through strength.
You know, I want a school system that gives parents choice in education.
I don't think what I'm asking for here is very complicated.
If it was, then I probably wouldn't be advocating this position.
Anyway, good call, my friend.
Don't forget James Comer and Jim Jordan tonight.
Hannity 9 Eastern, both in this hearing today with Devin Archer.
And we'll get some insight into what really went on there in spite of the media spin.
But it seems like this is not a good day for Joe Biden.
Forget Hunter.
Not a good day for Joe because Joe's up to his eyeballs in this, as we've now been saying, this Joe Biden bribery scandal allegation is very real.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
Hannity tonight, Nine Eastern on the Fox News channel.
All right, James Comer, Jim Jordan, both in the room the entire time with Devin Archer today.
We'll get their first-hand account of all of the varying things that we've learned in detail.
Later on, also Tulsi Gabbard, Matt Whitaker, Greg Jarrett, Tommy Larin, Charlie Arnold, and much, much more.
Set you DBR, Hannity, Nine Eastern on Fox.
We'll see you tonight back here tomorrow.
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