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Bibi Netanyahu - July 28th, Hour 3
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800 941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, uh we've been following the events uh in Israel of judicial reform and and there's been some well, a little bit of civil unrest and disagreement within the country about it.
I think there's been a uh a grave misunderstanding when you when you dig into the details of what it really is all about.
Um it's it's just interesting that people get a different perspective.
Uh Prime Minister uh Benjamin Netanyahu joins us right now, uh, our closest ally in the Middle East, the only democracy in the region.
Uh sir, it's always great to have you back.
How are you?
I'm fine.
How are you, Sean?
Well, uh, I g to be honest, I've been worried about you.
I mean, you had a pacemaker put in one day, and then the next day, you're in the Knesset and and addressing the nation, and y it's like you didn't even have the pacemaker put in.
I'm like, all right, is my friend of thirty years okay?
Yes, very much so, and you're very kind to ask.
Look, uh, you know, uh I I worked on the uh historic Abraham Accords to bring historic peace with the help of uh America and President Trump's administration to bring uh the four the Abraham Accords.
So after they put the peer uh the pacemaker in me, one of my uh aides said, okay, we now have the peacemaker with a pacemaker.
You know, having a great and by the way, you I did see you, you did look great.
Uh of course we wish you, you know, obviously the best of health at all times.
Uh let's let's talk about this judicial reform, and you have been making a very powerful case that Israel will be stronger, a stronger democracy, uh, because of these reforms.
Your opponents have been falsely accusing you of trying to do this uh uh uh as a means of of dealing with this ridiculous legal problem that you've had hanging over your head for uh what five years now.
Uh I think it has to do with whether or not you somebody gave you free gifts of cigars.
That's how stupid this is, but um I I'm I'd like you to explain it because obviously we have a lot of people that care deeply uh about our closest ally.
Well, look, Israel uh uh is uh a democracy, and the uh the basic thing in a democracy is balancing the will of the the rights of the majority uh with the rights of the minority or individual rights, okay?
And the way you balance these things uh is that you have the balance of checks and balances between the three branches of government in Israel over the last two decades, the judiciary, which is the most activist judiciary on the planet, arrogated for itself a lot of the powers of the two other branches, the executive and the legislative.
Uh giving it the power to essentially nullify any decision uh made by the the government or the the uh our our legislature.
That's so we're trying to bring it back into balance.
We don't want a subservient judiciary.
We want an independent judiciary, but we don't want an all-powerful judiciary.
And that's what we're seeking to uh correct.
And uh, you know, the the majority of the people who vote for us time and time again, they feel that their vote is not represented uh by uh uh after the government is formed, because the government is basically chained.
It's blocked to make uh to carry out the policy decisions which the voters vote for by uh an unelected uh uh 15-man court, 15-person court, uh response uh you know, uh uh respectable people, important people, but uh but they they don't have any checks on them.
It's like, you know, you need checks and balances in Israel, the Supreme Court has all the checks and no balance.
So we're trying to bring some balance into it.
That is what the people wanted, that's what they voted is for.
It's got nothing to do with the legal proceedings against me.
Let me tell you something.
My trial has been going on for three years.
It's unraveling.
A few weeks ago, the three judges called a prosecution in and said, Listen, you gotta drop the bribery charge.
We haven't heard a single defense witness yet, but you gotta drop the bribery charge.
Uh and uh, you know, the only request I have for my trial, Sean, is just to have live television coverage.
Not only because it's the best show in town, but also because it it lets the truth come out.
And I always said the truth will come out and it is coming out.
And you see there some very unpleasant things like the blackmailing of witnesses, the use of sophisticated spyware uh on the planet, uh, you know, uh uh available on earth, used against my associates to shake them down.
Uh terrible things that should not happen.
So the truth is coming out, but this has got nothing to do with my trial, which is proceeding on its own.
Uh this is something that has to do with the feelings of millions of Israeli voters who say we want our policies, the things we voted for done by the elected government and not nullified uh by arbitrary dictums of the Supreme Court.
Now, every everybody I think understands how complicated your parliamentary system is.
I mean, you know, you went through a period of of great uncertainty with what, four or five elections and and four or five years.
Uh I I've not seen anything like that or expected anything like that, or to see anything like that in my lifetime.
I I think the moral equivalent in the United States that my audience would relate to is what we call judicial activism.
And and for example, we're supposed to have co equal branches of government, and there are originalists as we call them, or those that believe in in the the role of the judiciary not to legislate from the bench.
And and those that prefer to appoint what we call judicial activists and those that feel that they have a right to legislate from the bench.
But these are defined roles in our constitution, and and that is not the role of the court in the U.S. What what I think makes this even more acute of a pr problem in Israel is when there is a change of government and the opposition uh doesn't like whatever legislation is passed or the uh mandate given to that government formed,
like in in this case your government, uh they use the courts, as you point out, to negate or n uh uh uh nullify what it is that that the people voted for.
And that has been happening both, you know, not only in in governments you have formed, but in governments that other prime ministers have formed.
Yeah, I I think that uh the the we should give the the courts their due, but we can't give them more than their due.
Uh they they have uh there is a thing called judicial review, which was established uh, you know, in by Madison uh versus Marbury, uh, you know, in 1803.
Sure, you can have uh judicial review over over the government decisions, the con congressional decisions in your case, but uh you don't have the ability, the court doesn't have the ability to change the constitution.
So, you know, i what what we're discussing now in Israel is whether we don't have a constitution, but the closest thing we have is basic laws.
And basically what we're discussing now is whether the court can strike down basic laws.
That would be like the U.S. Supreme Court, which is committed to the Constitution uh nullifying a constitutional amendment by saying it's unconstitutional.
That's pretty weird, right?
Well, that's what you're dealing with in reality.
That's the reality of of what the cur what the law was leading up to these reforms.
Well, uh, listen, uh it's uncharted territory.
I hope the court doesn't go there.
I don't believe they'll go there, but who knows.
All I can tell you is that what we're trying to do is bring back into balance the Israeli uh uh judicial system so that it reflects what is uh common in just about every democracy uh on earth.
Uh and I'm looking actually to achieve a compromise uh uh uh for example on this reasonable clause that we uh uh we uh just enacted.
The opposition leaders, many of them supported it just seven months ago before the elections.
They changed for political reasons, but they supported this.
They said we can't have just uh, you know, this situation where a subjective decision by the judges, they say that something is unreasonable.
Now you imagine an American president be it Donald Trump or be it Joe Biden, uh, you know, they make an appointment, and the court says, well, we think this is an unreasonable appointment.
Not because it's illegal, uh, you know, it's not conflict of interest, it's not uh any other things, uh because there are plenty of checks uh that the court has over these uh these kinds of decisions, and they're left there there are plenty of them in Israel too.
But just because we deem it unreasonable.
Well, suppose the the appointment, the guy that you want to appoint to the cabinet was ratified by the Senate, okay?
Okay, in our case, the person was ratified by the Knesset.
In our case, the person was voted by close to half a million voters.
You know, is their are their decisions less reasonable than the decisions of this or that judge, uh, respectable as they may be?
Of course not.
So that that's really what we're uh you know, what we corrected, which is actually a minor correction.
The reason it's a minor correction, and I didn't go for the full Monty, is because even though I don't agree with the critics of the uh judicial reform, I understand that there's concern.
You know, people have been frightened, they think we're gonna be a dictatorship and all this nonsense.
I'm supposed to be some authoritarian potentate.
Uh, you know, I'm out to uh uh I'm looking out for my own interests and all that nonsense, okay?
So I understand that concern.
To alleviate those concerns, I said, okay, I'm willing to compromise.
I pressed the pause button on the legislation, even though we have the majority.
And I reached out to the other side of the aisle and I said, okay, let's take a month to try to reach compromise on this and other matters.
Then I added another month, and I added another month.
They wouldn't compromise on anything.
And the reason they wouldn't compromise on anything is because uh they want to bring down the government.
And they said a compromise would be good for the country.
If it's good for the country, it's good for the government.
So because we don't want it to benefit the government, we're not reaching any sort of uh compromise.
Uh that's why we passed uh, you know, uh I passed the next uh you know a minor thing.
I'm still trying to get reach a compromise.
We might actually be able to reach it, because since the opposition saw that we could pass something without them, maybe now they'll be more prone to do something with them.
Uh and that's what I'm trying to do.
You know, I'm trying to try to reach a compromise.
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We continue with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is uh on the line from Israel.
Let me move on to another issue that I know you and I have discussed for all the years that we've known each other, and that is the country of Iran.
Um a number of events, number of things are going on.
Um I don't like the fact that Joe Biden, our president, seems to be uh desperately wanting uh a renewal of of this what was a horrific Iranian deal uh that gave them a a fortune in money, and and now I see you talk about the Abraham Accords.
Now I see the Saudis allowing the communist Chinese to negotiate a peace deal with the Iranians and do the same thing with the Syrians.
And then I see Egypt and the UAE now aligning more with Putin and Russia.
Uh, and I think they are only doing so in the absence of of the leadership that we had prior to Joe Biden.
Uh do you see the same thing I do?
And and how grave is that danger?
Because I read that the Iranians are very close to being uh having nuclear weapons.
That scares me.
Well, it's uh certainly concerns me.
That's uh and as the Prime Minister of Israel, I'll do everything in my power to prevent uh Iran from getting nuclear weapons.
I uh you know my position.
I think that uh any deal with Iran that doesn't roll back physically their uh nuclear uh infrastructure is basically worthless.
And I have said that to successive administrations, my position hasn't changed.
I'm not sure that the the deal is on the table right now for a variety of reasons.
Uh but I will say that I've always said that with a deal or without a deal, uh Israel will reserve the freedom of action to defend itself by itself against any threat, including the threat of a nuclear Iran that openly calls for our destruction.
Uh but I think there's uh there's another uh that's one of the reasons, one of the two reasons uh that I came back into government.
And this is my sixth term.
It's not exactly a walk in the rules garden, as you can imagine.
Uh I I've watched every one of them.
There's no election that takes place in Israel that's a walk in the rose garden, not one.
No.
No.
Uh politics uh not a genteel sport anywhere, and certainly not in Israel.
But the other reason that I came into back to government in addition to blocking Iran's uh nuclear design uh is and its aggression is to expand the circle of peace uh with uh uh with our Arab neighbors.
And I think there's a real opportunity there.
I think the opportunity is to achieve a normalization and peace treaty with Saudi Arabia.
And on this I have to say that uh the the uh Biden administration is working, trying to achieve it.
And uh look, it depends in many ways on the Saudis.
Uh if they decide to come forward, that's fine.
I don't think that they have any illusions about Iran.
Uh I think they also understand that uh whatever criticism one may have of the United States, uh, it is the uh you know, it's the one indispensable ally uh on earth.
We all want a very strong uh American ally.
Well, first of all, we're glad you're healthy.
We're glad everything came out well.
Um this this is a historic time, that's for sure.
It's also a scary time.
Um I'm not happy with the uh geopolitical ambitions of both Russia and China.
Uh I'm not happy.
I call it a new axis of evil.
That's Russia, China, Iran.
Uh I'm not uh happy with China trying to expand their sphere of influence into the Middle East where you are, and I think that uh the United States needs to get back in the game, and for that to happen, I believe we need a new president in November twenty four, but I'll keep you out of American politics, the last place you need to be.
Um uh Prime Minister B. Benjamin Netanyahu Israel, always a great pleasure to have you, my friend.
Look forward to having you on TV soon.
Thank you, Sean.
And hope to see you soon on camera.
Yes, sir.
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All right, let's get to our busy, busy uh telephones here.
Let's say hi to James is in Utah.
James, where in Utah are you, sir?
How are you doing, Sean?
Gosh, what a blessing just to even speak to you.
I've been listening to you since I was a little kid riding around in the truck, Ma Papa.
Uh no, that sounds like remember Rush used to always have rush babies, you know, and they would listen because their parents had rush on in the car, and then they grew up liking Rush.
Um, I guess that means I'm getting older, number one, and number two, uh, I take that as a high compliment.
Thank you.
Well, yes, sir.
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Keep drilling.
Uh, but my main uh thing I wanted to say is everything that's going on with Hunter Biden, how good of a s sweet of a plea deal this is, and just how just so it's just so good to him.
Isn't this quote on quote what you call white privilege?
Because anyone else in ethnicity, color does not matter.
If it was a normal citizen who broke this law, they wouldn't just uh hand us the book, they would beat us to the ground till we died with the book.
And I just don't get how someone like him could just get away with stuff like this.
Well, I mean, they're getting away with it because you know the system right now is corrupt.
There's no other way to describe it.
I'm not I mean, we're not making this up about a dual system of justice.
You know, we're not making it up when we talk about the FBI, you know, putting cinder blocks on the scales of presidential elections in 2016 and 2020.
It really happened.
And we have all the evidence you'd ever need.
You know, if you know Donald Trump's treated one way, and if you're Joe Biden or Hunter Biden, you get you get a whole different level of treatment.
And you know, what they tried to pull off yesterday was they tried to pull a fast one.
And what they were really trying to do is have a wink and a nod deal with obscure language in the deal that allowed that that would have exonerated Hunter from any further investigations.
The judge saw right through it, picked up on it, and asked the the $20 billion question, which was Um, does that mean does this deal allow for him to be prosecuted on other things like Farrah violations?
And at that point, the DOJ, knowing that they are being scrutinized to the level they are, thanks to Jim Jordan's Judiciary Committee, they knew they had to answer in the affirmative that there were ongoing investigations.
Now, did that catch the defense uh off guard?
Yeah, because they they felt like they had an agreement.
You know why?
Because they did have an agreement.
They had an agreement that this would end it for Hunter.
And he'd get walk away with a slap on the wrist and you know, a no jail plea, and that nothing else would happen down the road.
That blew up right in their face yesterday.
Now, are they gonna try to do it in another backhanded way?
Probably.
You know, if I'm the judge in this case, usually what would happen at this point is the person would be charged and brought to trial.
But I suspect that you know the favoritism is gonna continue, and then they're gonna try and get creative and come up with, you know, another sweetheart deal for Hunter.
That's what I suspect.
Well, and see, what just mind boggles me is because, you know, working on the oil rig out here, you meet all sorts of different people.
And there's people out here that want to change their life and do better in their life.
But they did a they they messed up, they messed up not too long ago, and they broke a law and they realized they broke the law, but they can't go and get their CD out because of laws they broke in the past.
But this man went, did drugs, spent taxpayers' money, all that, and they're allowing this man to walk like he has no no worries in the world.
And my whole thing is when are we gonna hold politicians to the the same amount of level of equality?
Because the left likes to preach about equality, equality, but the whole time their politicians are breaking laws and doing vast amounts of number of things that should be illegal and spend ye the rest of their life in jail, but they get away with it.
But when it comes to a citizen who pays taxes, the blood, sweat, hours and tears they put in the back backing of this country, and they just blue screw it, they just screw us over.
And it's just it just mind boggles me, especially as a twenty-four year old in this country who is out here busting his butt, working his butt off, just for them to just tear it all down, and then it upsets me, Sean.
Look, you you're 24, you're the same age as my son, and my advice to you is of course you should pay attention uh to all these events that are unfolding.
However, you know what, you've got your whole life ahead of you here, and and I still believe in the American dream.
And if you put in the hours and you you use the the great mind that God gave you and you find your talents that God gave you, and you you couple that with a work ethic second to none.
I don't think you can fail in America.
I really believe that.
That's for any American.
So I would say say, keep your head down, work really hard and and don't stop.
And regardless of who comes and goes and in power, you know, for for the most part, you know, you're free to do so now.
I don't I don't I don't have a crystal ball.
I don't know how bad things ultimately get.
I don't.
I worry about it, but I can't worry about something I can't control.
I'm just concerned.
And but I can say this you can be the master of your own destiny.
One of the things, you know, I've lived my adult life as somebody that had no money and now somebody that is pretty financially secure.
And it's much and I'll be honest, I probably was happier when I was poor, um, in some ways, because I got a gun at my head, you know, like 24-7, and and I work 24-7.
And on the other hand, I I do love money is freedom.
So don't underestimate the money aspect of life.
And and the best scenario is to find your passion.
I found my passion.
It was radio, and then I didn't even know TV was not part of the plan.
And and I followed my passion and find a way to make money doing something you love, because then it's not really work every day.
You know, I love doing my job every day.
I uh that's why I keep doing it.
I'm not doing it because I get paid now.
I'm doing it because I want to do it.
I'm doing it because I care about my country.
I'm doing it because I think I have something to offer.
And I know you have something to offer.
Every human being has gifts that God gave them.
You know, he knew you before you were born.
He's your creator.
He knows how many hairs are on your head.
He knows how many grains of of sand there are in every beach in the entire universe.
So I think if you you look at it from that perspective, I think that that you just you you worry about the things you can't worry about, and and you fight hard in your spare time to get the best people in office possible.
So as Thomas Payne said, you know, government in its best state is but a necessary evil and its worst state and intolerable one.
You know, let's get a government that is less intrusive, that has more common sense, that understands foreign policy, understands the basics of a free market economy, and uh and hopefully, You know, we'll prevail in November of 2024.
That's the only thing we can really hope for for right now.
Yes, sir.
Uh, what's called the one last thing I just wanted to say, Sean, is God bless you, and I pray that the Holy Spirit protects you and guides you to make right decisions because, sir, you're doing such a blessing for this country.
We're you know, telling people that don't have a word out there in this.
And I just want to say thank you for everything.
And like I say, I pray that the Holy Spirit just not protects you but protects your loved one, and mostly important, I pray the Holy Spirit protects our enemies of our country and inside the country, because I just want to say thank you, sir, for everything you've done.
Well, the nicest thing I think people can can say to you is when they say they're praying for you, so I I I very graciously and humbly say thank you, and may God shine his face upon you every day of your life and protect you as well.
All right, my friend.
Yes.
Yes, sir.
God bless you.
God bless you.
800, 94, one Sean.
Uh, you know, thank God we're not in a public school.
Would not be able to have that conversation there.
Uh unless we somehow maybe we'd get away with it if we mixed in gender identity classes with it.
I don't know.
That might help.
A little CRT mixed in for, you know, flavor.
Uh anyway, back to our phones.
Joel in Florida, the free state of Florida.
What's up, Joel?
How are you?
Hey, Sean, how are you?
Thanks for taking my call.
One of the greatest disappointments of my 35 year of corporate and airline uh flying was I never saw a UFO, nor did I know personally anybody that did.
That's the and of course I believe in them.
And I believe the the military guys are having all the fun.
I mean, they're they're the ones that are really being concentrated by let's let's say for the sake of of this conversation that the UFOs do in fact exist.
They exist and get this goes back military-wise to World War II when uh when uh b uh the allied, oh, in fact the fi the pilots on both sides reported uh what they call foo fighters back then, not the band, but food fighters.
And uh if you're asking the question, a lot of people are asking questions, does our government have the technology now to to fly these things, then you'd have to ask the question, did they have the technology eighty years ago?
And yeah, and the answer is obviously no.
Which You know, I I I watched the people and I looked at the backgrounds of many of the people that are testifying here.
I mean, you're talking about highly decorated decades-long, you know, pilots in in our air force and at the the highest level of our military, and we're not just talking about one or two nutty people on the fringe here.
We're talking about, you know, dozens and dozens of people.
And Sean, I believe them.
By the way, by the way, I believe it too.
I mean, now they're talking about biologics, meaning that they there's some type of some type of life recovery that they know about that they might not be telling us about.
They believe that they found technology that does not exist here on earth.
Um, if that's all true, I'd like, you know, maybe maybe we can learn something from it.
Now maybe it's not true.
But I suspect strongly that our government is not honest with us.
That's my strong suspicion.
And um I I don't think that I think they're doing us a disservice by not telling us the truth.
Um you know, the American people can handle the truth.
You know, this isn't Jack Nicholson and a few good men.
You can handle the truth.
Well, I actually I can't handle the truth.
And I'd rather know the truth, the truth will set you free.
I read that one someplace.
The the the uh the reason that they're they might be concentrating on on military, maybe it's some kind of a threat assessment or something.
You know, you know, I mean, certainly airliners are no uh are no threat to a UFO.
I mean, any number of reasons.
But I would wouldn't surprise me that these things are are not even armed.
I mean, they're just recon airplanes or whatever you want to call them.
My question is how did they get here?
How did they transverse?
They're not they're not telling us.
I mean, how many times did these guys answer yesterday?
Uh ma'am, I'd love to answer that question, sir.
I'd like to answer that question, but I can't do it in an open session.
I'd I can only do it in a closed session.
I'm like that I'm like, why why are you teasing me like this?
That's exactly what I want to hear.
I want to know exactly what you know.
I know I want to know exactly what you saw.
Um I want to know every detail of what what you know.
Um, but I understand the need for the government to keep secrets at times.
Man, maybe there are good reasons for it.
I will say this.
Um in conversations that I had with President Trump, a number of times I tried to ask him about this topic.
You know, just in off-air conversations, because you only have a limited time and and there's so much material I have to cover in the course of an interview.
And he never wanted to answer the question.
And I I never got a denial, and I never got uh, you know, yeah, there's definitely something to this.
Never got anything.
I tried.
I saw him questioned on that.
I saw Obama question on that, and he kind of sloughed it off too.
Yeah, um, and maybe there's good reason for it.
I'm not sure.
Sure.
Like when I was interviewing Bobby Kennedy Jr. the other night, and and he really strongly believes that the CIA was involved in the killing of his uncle, John F. Kennedy, the president, and his his father, Robert F. Kennedy, uh senior, uh, who was running for president in 1968.
And um, you know, I asked him what evidence he had, and he actually had a list of very specific examples.
Now, if you go back to the assassination of JFK, I mean, I went down there once with Mark Furman of the Grassy Knoll and the bank depository, and you know, we we went over the the magic bullet theory.
I mean, this this belief that the bullet that killed John Kennedy also hit John Connolly and and so on and so forth.
That magic bullet theory didn't doesn't meet the smell test for me.
And for a long time, I mean, that's where people have uh put their belief.
Um, I would like to know more about Lee Harvey Oswald.
I'd like to know who he was really associated with.
I don't know.
And uh apparently there's a lot of information that the bar the government keeps secret nearly 60 years later.
Why?
That doesn't make sense to me.
I think we're tough enough that we can handle it.
Anyway, appreciate the call, Joel.
Thank you.
All right, buddy, God bless you.
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