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July 13, 2023 - Sean Hannity Show
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Security Risks - July 13th, Hour 2
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If you want to be a part of the program, well, Christopher Wray went before the House Judiciary Committee yesterday, and he ducked, and he dodged, and he weaved, and he obfuscated, and generally was about as non-responsive as I kind of predicted he would be, not wanting to give answers to very critical, pertinent questions.
He has not been cooperative with either the Judiciary Committee or the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee.
You may remember the case of the 1023 form.
That was the one that had a credible FBI informant, one that the FBI had paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to in the past, talk about the fact that there was evidence that Joe Biden took specific actions as vice president in exchange for money from his family.
Now, of course, we have the What's App message, which we'll get to in a second.
But here's Ray yesterday at the hearings ducking, dodging the questions of Republicans.
Again, I'm not going to get into that here.
Did you request the information?
I can't speak to the specifics.
Again, I don't have the numbers.
I sit here right now.
There have been instances in which individuals have had disciplinary action and they were no longer with you.
I can't get into it here.
I can't, again, I just can't speak to that here.
Do you know what the motivation was?
Well, again, I think that's what our internal review will find, and I'd rather wait.
I don't know if that number is accurate.
I can't get into discussions that did or maybe more importantly did not happen between the FBI and the department.
All right, joining us now is the House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan is with us.
Sir, how are you?
I'm fine, Sean.
Good to be with you.
Well, what's your overall take?
I mean, mine was he didn't want to answer any questions.
Yeah, can't tell us the names of the five people who wrote the memorandum in the FBI field office saying pro-life Catholics are extremist.
Can't tell us if he even talked to the Attorney General prior to the memorandum, which said we're going to go after parents and treat them as terrorists who show up at school board meetings.
Can't tell us if there were undercover agents or undercover informants at the Capitol on January 6th.
Can't tell us if any Afghan parents were apprehended.
And maybe most importantly, when he was asked by Democrats, when he was asked by Democrats, is the FBI sweeping up data, buying it, using their money, taxpayer money, our money to go buy data that they would otherwise have to get via a warrant?
Are they doing that?
He said, I'll have to get back with you.
So that is a problem.
And frankly, the one that really got me on this data issue was when we showed him a memo, or excuse me, an email where the FBI had asked Bank of America, give us all the credit card debit card purchases of Americans at this particular time and this particular location, and also let us know if any gun purchases were done with those credit cards or debit cards of your customers.
They asked, actually, asked for that information, and the FBI received that information.
That is scary stuff as well.
All right.
Let me remind people what you're investigating here because as the head of the Judiciary Committee, you're looking into whether or not the FBI has been politicized and weaponized, and the DOJ, whether it's been politicized or weaponized.
Now, this goes to the heart of a very important constitutional principle, which is equal justice under the law and equal application of our laws.
I no longer have confidence that we have either one of those, Congressman.
And I think we see it every day.
Now, I'm going to try and get your reaction to the Secret Service.
After 10 days of investigation, they came out today and said that they don't have any information that they are able to share.
It looks like we're not going to find out how cocaine got into the White House.
Congresswoman Boebert said that this is the third time these drugs have been found in the White House since 2022.
Why we didn't find out earlier, I don't know.
And I have a question, Congressman.
What if the cocaine was laced with fentanyl?
What if the white powder was anthrax and not cocaine?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, Shazam, we don't know how it got there.
We're not going to be able to figure it out, even though this is the most secure building on the planet with more camera.
I mean, you can't figure that out.
So I was not able to get to this briefing today because we had a hearing with the chair of the Federal Trade Commission in front of us.
But what I've heard is in the press is like, you've got to be kidding me.
And again, think about the outcry if, in fact, anything like this happened during the Trump administration.
So, yeah, Sean, you think there's a two-tiered system of justice, and you're in agreement with the vast majority of the American people.
There was a survey done.
Four out of five Americans think that there's a two-tiered system of justice in our country today.
And I always say they think that because there is.
And that's the problem.
That's what we're trying to get to the bottom of and issue it and pass legislation to correct it.
And frankly, use the appropriations process, use the power of the purse to deal with it as well.
Okay, so let's start with whether or not, I mean, we already know, we have gone over in great specificity and detail.
Let's stay with 2020.
Christopher Rays, the director of the FBI, you pointed this out.
You said it last night on TV.
In 2019, December, they had the laptop.
John Solomon reported they verified its authenticity as early as March of 2020.
Then, can you explain to me why, in the months leading up to the 2020 presidential election, that FBI agents were sent to meet weekly with big tech companies, telling them they may likely be victims of a misinformation campaign.
And according to the case that was adjudicated on July 4th, this past July 4th, the Missouri case, the one where Yoel Roth, the former site integrity head for Twitter, said that they were being told that this misinformation may be about Joe Biden or Hunter Biden.
So that resulted in censorship.
Yeah, it's exactly right.
It was a great decision we got just nine days ago from the Western District of Louisiana on this censorship effort.
And you're exactly right.
And you've said it best.
It was pre-bunking something they already had in their possession.
That's the laptop story.
And here's the kicker, and this is in the court decision last week.
They were asked specifically, Facebook specifically asked the FBI, is the laptop story a hack and dump operation?
Is it Russian disinformation?
And the FBI said no comment.
As you point out, and we all know they had the laptop in their possession, they could have easily determined, they already knew, because this is clear in October.
So the whole year they're telling him they're pre-bunking, saying this is what's likely to happen.
In October, hack and dump involving Hunter Biden.
Those are the three key facts they told him.
Likely hack and dump operation from Russia in October involving Hunter Biden.
And Shazam, it happened.
It happened.
And then when they're asked, is this really Russian misinformation?
No comment from the FBI.
And this is from the head of the Foreign Influence Task Force within the FBI, the Foreign Influence Task Force that Christopher Wray created when he became director of the FBI.
You mentioned last night that the only remedy that you really have, the only power Republicans have, having one chamber, the House, and not having a majority in the Senate or the White House, the only power you really have is the power of the purse with a small majority.
You'd need all 222 Republicans or pretty close to that, 218 at least, to go along with the idea of defunding certain parts of the FBI and funding those parts that should be part of their mission.
Would Christopher Wray's salary be part of an effort to defund?
Well, certainly the FBI headquarters that they want, the new headquarters they want, it's not going to be something we're going to.
They want it twice the size of the Pentagon?
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
And they want it here in the D.C. area.
We said, if you really want something, go to your, quote, second headquarters already, which is in Huntsville, Alabama.
Go there.
They already got 20 of the 30 divisions there.
So, yeah, Sean, we're just like you.
We understand the vast majority of the agents are good men and women.
We have two former FBI agents who work for the House Republican Judiciary Committee staff, and they do a tremendous job for our committee.
Those are the people who are doing the Lord's work out there.
We don't want to hurt them, but we do want the money of American tax dollars to be spent in the right way and not used in any way to go after American citizens, not used to go buy up our data from some private broker and get access to information that they would have to go get a warrant for and follow the Constitution to get.
So those are the kind of safeguards we want to put in the law and certainly not give them the headquarters.
But the biggest thing is the FISA 702 section that's up for reauthorization this year.
We're going to work to dramatically change that.
Let me ask you about, and Matt Gates read the WhatsApp messages to Christopher Wray.
I'm sitting here with my father.
We'd like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled.
Tell the director that I would like to resolve this now before it gets out of hand and now means tonight.
And Z, if I get a call or a text from anyone involved in this other than you, Zhang, or the chairman, I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction.
I am sitting here waiting for the call with my father.
Now, we have other evidence out there.
There.
We know Joe Biden lied to the country repeatedly when he said he never ever talked about Hunter Biden's foreign business dealings, not once.
We have photographic evidence.
We have times and places of meetings with those partners and Hunter.
This sounds like a shakedown to me.
And Christopher Wray would not answer that question yesterday.
Why?
No, no, he would not.
You know, they're going to say it's because it's part of an ongoing investigation.
I think they define that as until this plea agreement is actually entered into, which is supposed to that court date sometime later this month, that there's, you know, they're going to say the ongoing investigation.
I'm not going to comment about that.
So I think that's the reason he did it.
But I think, Sean, this is quickly becoming just here's the choice.
Are you going to believe, when you think about all this stuff with the Biden Family Business Operation, are you going to believe the 14-year veteran of the IRS who handled the biggest tax evasion and international tax fraud cases in the country, the go-to guy in that subject area, who was on the investigation and contemporaneously made emails and memorialized what was going on in the investigation, sent emails to other investigators.
They emailed it back.
He has a record.
You're going to believe him, Gary Shapley, or are you going to believe the Biden Justice Department?
The Biden Justice Department did that again.
Said parents are terrorists, pro-life Catholics are extremists, raided the home of a former president, was involved in censoring Americans.
Who are you going to believe?
The administration who said, no, I wasn't involved, and it turns out he certainly was.
He knew something about it.
So who are you going to believe?
I think that's what this is now shaping up to be.
And Gary Shapley seems very, very credible to me.
And I think most people would comment.
And there's going to be five other people apparently corroborating what the U.S. Attorney Weiss said that he said he didn't have the power.
He claims now otherwise, I guess, either to protect himself or Garland or whatever.
You know, it's going to be interesting to see which way this goes.
But one of the big parts of your investigation is whether America has a dual justice system.
Now, I would argue when James Comey in 2016 said no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute, even though he found all of this top secret classified material that they believed and he said they believed was hacked by foreign entities, hostile regimes on Hillary's servers,
never mind the fact that he protected her from the 33,000 subpoenaed emails deleted and devices destroyed, and then the fact that they used the dirty FISA warrant, even though in early October of 2016 they offered a million dollars, the FBI did, to Christopher Steele to corroborate any part of it.
They couldn't.
Andrew McCabe admitted that without the dirty dossier that Hillary paid for, they wouldn't have gotten the FISA warrants approved.
And then even after they found out Christopher Steele couldn't collect a penny because he couldn't corroborate a thing, they end up using it to get the FISA applications.
Now, you tell me, why hasn't anyone gotten held accountable for that?
Why was there no raid in Chappaqua?
Why was there no raid at the University of Delaware, the U. Penn Biden Center, the Rehoboth Beach House, or Biden's garage with his precious Corvette Stingray in there?
Yeah, no, I mean, Sean, you're so right.
And it comes back to, again, the reason it didn't happen is because there's two standards, and it is wrong.
It is as wrong as could be.
It's supposed to be equal of the law, equal justice under the law, and that is not what we're getting.
And that's what Gary Shapley brought forward.
He said this case was handled different than the others, than all the other investigations, and that is, again, not supposed to happen.
So all we can do, though, in the legislative branch is do the oversight that was required to under the Constitution, propose legislation, and we will, particularly when it comes to Americans' privacy and the FISA law.
And then, as we've talked about, use the power of the purse.
And we're going to do all that.
Let me go back one more cocaine question.
First, we were told that it was found in the library of the residents.
Then somehow reporting said it's the formal West Wing lobby.
They dismissed that pretty quickly.
Then it was the cubbies that you walk into in the West executive entrance.
And then all of a sudden there's an NBC report.
Oh, it's closer to the Situation Room.
And now after 10 long days, that investigation ends.
Do you believe that investigation would end if Donald Trump were president?
Because I do not.
Of course not.
Again, back to this.
There's one set of rules for the elite left and Democrats in this town and another set of rules for the rest of us, the rest of the country.
And again, that's what so frustrates the American people.
But no, you're exactly right.
This happens.
Any of this stuff happens to President Trump or the First Family.
It's a whole different story.
We'd be asked nonstop every time I walk around Capitol Hill, I'd be having a reporter ask me something about this situation.
But of course, oh, no big deal to investigate it.
Nothing we can do here.
Everything's fine.
Makes no sense.
All right.
You're doing a great job.
And we need a lot of answers.
And they have not been cooperative.
And I don't think they're going to start anytime soon.
But digging deep is very important here.
Congressman Jim Jordan, chairman of the very important House Judiciary Committee.
Sir, thank you for being with us.
You bet.
Thank you, Sean.
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Why would the Secret Service turn down a FOIA request for the Cocaine Gate documents?
Why isn't there some independent investigation with all the footage?
Because go through what we know and what we have time to know.
We know that they have cameras outside.
You could identify every single solitary person that walked in the White House that day.
It's not hard.
And why don't we take it from there and interview every one of them?
Oh, that's right.
It's not the Trump White House.
It's the Biden White House.
I'm so stupid.
Anyway, 800-941-Sean, our number.
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Quick break, right back.
We'll get to your calls and comments later on.
Joe Concha and Carol Roth on the latest, The Cocaine Gate and the cover-up.
Democrats are getting really wigged out.
Now we have this group called No Labels.
They don't want to be called Republican.
They don't want to be called Democrat.
Now, West Virginia Democratic Senator Joe Manchin, now he's up for re-election in the next cycle in 24 anyway.
Probably one of the most vulnerable senators, in large part, because his party screwed him when he went along with the Inflation Reduction Act.
His polling numbers at that time were near 70%.
And then, you know, supposedly he had gotten concessions from Chuck Schumer and Joey Biden, and they absolutely were nigged on the deal that they had.
And that did not go over well with the people of West Virginia.
So anyway, he's now in New Hampshire at an event sponsored by this group, No Labels.
And, you know, he would not say whether or not he's seeking reelection.
He has not ruled out a presidential bid.
And was going to be the keynote speaker at a No Labels town hall meant to launch the common sense policy booklet.
We're going to talk to common sense solutions, common sense problems.
That's all that he said.
The other thing that's got the Democrats freaked out is Cornell West.
He'll be on our TV show on Monday.
He's now the third party presidential candidate and talks of this is now scaring the Democrats and the unpleasant flashbacks of 2016 for members of the Democratic Party, some of whom are starting to grow anxious about the impact it would have on Biden's reelection chances.
By the way, I've known Cornell West a long time.
I do not put it past him at all to run as a third-party candidate.
I do not.
So it's getting interesting.
We'll see what happens with the Democrats on that front and whether or not his no labels group gets any traction at all.
Time will tell.
All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Glad you're with us.
Tony in Massachusetts.
What's up, Tony?
How are you?
Hey, how are you doing, Sean?
What's going on?
So I have an interesting take on the cocaine that was found in the White House.
I see the Secret Service today came out and said that they still don't know.
They have no clue.
And I think they closed the case.
I travel around the country and to various Costco's selling high-end kitchen knives.
And over the weekend, one of my sets was a $1,250 sets went missing.
All we knew was that it made it out of the store and it wasn't paid for.
So within 45 minutes, Costco figured out who took the set and how they got it out of the store.
They had that customer on the phone and they made him come in and pay for the set.
So, I mean, this is within 45 minutes.
I kind of find it hard to believe that Costco has better security than the White House.
I do not find any of this credible at all, that they can't find the culprit here.
Let me ask you this question.
What if the white powder was anthrax?
Has anyone ever thought of that idea?
What if the cocaine was laced with fentanyl?
You know, you can be around fentanyl.
We've had experts on this program, Linda, that have said you can be in a room with fentanyl and inhale it and not even know it.
You know, how many times have there been police officers that just handle fentanyl, and the next thing you know, they're getting a shot of Narcan, you know, to bring to revive them?
So these things happen.
This is just unacceptable, and it's a cover-up.
But look at what Tony's point is.
So Costco, I mean, maybe that's what the White House should do.
They should go old school and hire Costco, bring Costco's security team in, let them do the investigation, and maybe we'll get some answers because the Secret Service clearly does not know how to do their job, right, Tony?
Well, is it that they don't know how to do their job or they do know how to do their job?
And now the Secret Service is throwing away, what, their reputation to cover up the state of the United States.
But so that's my point.
If you worked at the Secret Service and this was your president, it's a sad state of affairs, but it is.
And then this guy and his family is doing all the things that they're doing.
There's not one agent, not one agent?
I was told by a source, I mean, a deep source that would know that they know who did it.
They know who had it.
And that's my point.
Why don't one of you ante up?
Because then they would then have to arrest this person, and it would get complicated.
All I'm saying is, by the way, the person that I was told was not Hunter.
I'll even go that far.
Oh, I know who it was.
You do.
Yeah.
She has been known to just love a good line of this candy.
And anybody who's reading the history would know that I'm not saying Hunter might not have partaken with her, but he certainly wasn't the one to bring the dime bag into the White House.
Excuse me.
Why don't they drug test everybody that was there?
How about that?
But here's my point.
If you were in the Secret Service, if you were in the FBI, we've got all these great agents, and they will break rank and they will come out and they will do something.
Tony's point is so valid.
You know, here we are at Costco.
45 minutes later, they got the culprit.
They got the video.
They got the goods.
There's no way in 10 days, this thing, or 11 days now, it should be closed.
They knew day one.
They knew day one.
They saw the video.
They went, oh my God, you got to be kidding me.
How are we going to do it?
I'll even add to that.
The key would also be the White House cocaine locker is still missing.
Apparently, they don't have the key.
Did they ever hear of a lock stick?
Oh, I know where it is.
It's with Clinton's emails and phones.
It's right there.
All right, Tony, appreciate it.
To me, a huge, big, massive cover-up.
All right, Daniel in North Carolina.
Daniel, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
I'm well, sir.
How are you?
I'm good.
What's going on?
I generally line up with you 100% on policy, just lockstaff at Barrel.
But the other day, you said something that to me was almost un-American.
I actually quit listening to you for two weeks.
What?
What did I do?
Yes.
You called Biden's Corvette a piece of crap.
His stingray.
Well, I'm comparing it to the one that I have now officially is being built.
It's only taken, you know, a year and a half to two years to get the call that having been on the list for that long, that my Z06 with a Z07 package is being built as we speak.
Now, compared to that, that Stingray that lived next to top secret classified documents in Biden's secure garage that was open all the time.
I'm sorry.
The Stingray does not match the Z06.
Have you seen the Z06?
Yeah, I have, and I've got a Z06.
It's not a C6.
What do you mean you have a Z06?
How did you get yours so much faster than I'm getting mine?
No, mine's not a C8.
Mine's not a C8.
Mine was a C5, 2001.
What color did you get?
Black.
That's what I'm getting.
Black.
Okay, the next thing, Linda said it was, did she say awful?
Oh, God, brother.
I got to tell you.
First of all, by the way, she's been getting hammered.
Everybody's so sad that I don't like it.
But I got to say, please know, let me just say from the beginning that I know nothing about these things.
Like, like nothing.
Okay, we'll just start there.
I don't know about the cars.
I mean, I thought it was XOX.
You know, Sean was ready to kill me the other day.
I'm like, what am I Googling?
I don't even know what it is.
Do you know what crossing the plane means?
No, I don't.
And I'm not going to pretend like I do because every time I do it, I screw it up.
So I'm not going to do it anymore.
You know what I mean?
But to his point, I will say the black is nice.
The black is nice, but I just don't think it's like, you know, price tag nice.
It's $130,000.
It's actually pretty cheap for what it is.
For what it is.
It's very cheap.
But what is it?
I think it's a better car than a $450,000.
Right, but what is it?
Like, what makes it so great?
Okay.
I'm asking sincerely.
I don't know.
Okay.
It is the greatest American muscle car ever built.
Pure.
Again, that tells me absolutely nothing.
That's nothing.
What does it have?
Okay.
It's sure.
I got extra cup holders, better air conditioning, amazing sounds.
I can't talk to you.
I cannot talk to you about this.
I don't know.
Okay, I can't.
I can't.
But, Daniel, you love yours, I'm sure.
I love all Corvette's.
That's why it's so broken-hearted to hear you bashing.
I just don't like it because Joe Biden owns it.
I mean, I used to think this thing right was cool.
I like maybe the earlier version of the Corvette more than the Stingray version.
I mean, they've had some really cool cars over the years.
This is by far the best Corvette ever made, in my opinion.
Do you agree or disagree?
Oh, 100%.
100%.
I was sort of against the mid-engine until I saw what they had done with it.
And it was like you said, you're comparing to Lamborghinis and Ferraris, and you pay a quarter of the price.
Exactly.
And it's an American-made car, which makes me that much more happy.
I'll tell you something.
Ethan in the studio just gave me a better answer than you did about why this car is valuable.
And that is because.
Go ahead, Ethan.
What did you say?
It's a mid-engine Corvette now.
Instead of the engine being in the front, they did a bunch of updates.
It's a really neat car.
And Sean, but I've driven this car.
My sensei has his.
My doctor friend has his.
It's in the middle.
So it feels more powerful.
No, it doesn't feel more powerful.
It is more powerful.
But the main thing is, when you compare it to other cars like a Porsche or a Ferrari or a Lamborghini, you're getting that experience at one-fourth of the price.
Thank you.
Now, I have a question for you.
When you're in the car, do you feel the bumps more because you're so loaded?
Okay, I have no desire to talk to you about this.
None at all.
By the way, thank you, Daniel.
Carrie is in Minnesota.
He wants to talk about it.
He thinks there's a better car than the Z06.
Which one?
Hey, Carrie, I was.
Sorry, you saw me saying my own name.
Have you ever looked at the Venom F5?
I have looked at it.
It's a great car.
Okay, I've been to their shop and stuff.
It's quite interesting.
I've seen the prototype going on the track.
All right, so you like that better than the Z06?
No, you don't, do you?
Too much hesitation there.
Of course, the Z06 is.
It also costs $3 million for the Venom.
It costs $3 million.
So you're talking about buying 30 Corvettes.
I think I'll take my little Corvette, my one Corvette.
I'll tell you what my hesitancy is going to be is driving it.
I'm going to be very hesitant to put a lot of miles on that car.
You have to drive it 500 miles because you have a governor on it.
Okay, you just, it's not a governor of the state.
Doesn't mean just tell me.
I didn't even say anything.
I'm just listening to you.
It has an electronic governor on it where you cannot even crank it up to full power until you have broken it.
You can't get control.
Until you have broken in the engine at over 500 miles.
Okay, we're done.
You're done.
You can't talk about cars.
You can't talk about football.
You can't even talk about sports.
You're great at talking about being a tiger mom at school.
I'm actually pretty good at talking about a lot of other things.
This is not my forte.
You think?
I'm honest.
I know my shortcomings.
All right, quick break, right back.
We'll head back to the phones.
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All right, back to our busy phones.
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Ken in California, what's up, Ken?
Hey, you guys cracked me up with your sports cars.
My Dodge Rim and power wagon to drag you right up the mountain.
Hey, by the way, I love a Dodge Ram.
You don't have to convince me on a Dodge Ram.
I'm all in.
I think it's awesome.
Hey, in all seriousness, a couple days ago, Senator Paul was on your program and he was talking about his.
Yeah, the Freedom of Speech Act.
Well, aimed at stopping government agencies from colluding with big tech.
But he threw a couple of exemptions in there.
One of them being violence or immediate threat of violence.
Now, what's to stop a guy like Christopher Wray, with all of his integrity, from, you know, seeing the next Linda at a school board meeting or me at a school board meeting, not agreeing with the curriculum and what's going on?
And, well, there's he's instigating violence by doing that.
And now back to censorship.
Well, I mean, I think they have basically, I think they've intimidated many parents away from these school board meetings.
And I think a lot of students in colleges, they're intimidated into speaking up when they're being indoctrinated by these woke professors.
And I think there's intimidation for anybody that's on the airways that if you dare say something they deem politically incorrect, they come after you with a vengeance.
I've dealt with this my whole career.
And they want you fired, boycotted, canceled.
I mean, it's insane.
They don't believe in liberty.
They don't believe in freedom.
I don't care.
I've never called for firings.
I've never called for cancellations.
I've never called for boycotts.
To me, it's a very simple concept.
You cannot force people to watch a TV show.
You cannot force people to listen to a radio show.
The only chance I have that you will listen and watch is if I work really, really hard and I put on a good show every day.
That's the only way.
There's no other way for me to, I can't run out in everybody's car when they're driving and say, this is Sean Hannity, switch to my station now, immediately.
And so people have choices.
They have freedom, but they'd rather, you know, get somebody canceled because they don't like him.
They don't agree with him.
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