Sean Hannity Show - Fixing the Constitution - June 30th, Hour 1

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Fixing the Constitution - June 30th, Hour 1

Joe Pags sits down with Greg Jarrett to review the various Supreme Court decisions and how this court is finally trying to fix our Constitution after years of abuse. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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	Always an absolute honor to be in for my friend Sean Hannity.
	It's Joe Pagli Ruleau, Joe Pags.
	You might have heard that name before.
	Really glad to be here.
	I tell you what, we are breaking news here all day on this program.
	We've been breaking news this entire week, starting yesterday morning, really, when it comes to the Supreme Court.
	Glad to be here with Linda and Ethan and uh Sean, thank you.
	Enjoy a couple of uh of well deserved days off.
	The Supreme Court is doing the right thing, and the left is freaking the hell out.
	The left is freaking out.
	Well, they started freaking out a year ago when the Supreme Court said abortion is not in the Constitution, therefore the states get to decide what uh whether or not abortion will be legal in that state.
	It's really that simple.
	The Constitution basically says here's the stuff the government can't do, here's the stuff the federal government will be in charge of, here's the stuff that that will be its purview.
	Anything not mentioned here goes back to the states.
	The left, of course, lied and said that well no, they just outlawed abortion, which by the way, I'd be happy about, because I don't think we should be killing unborn children, but it didn't say that at all.
	What it said was the federal government doesn't have the right to make a decision about this.
	Now the individual states can.
	If you want to have access to abortion, go to a state that has access.
	You don't want to uh um access to abortion and the killing of unborn children, go to a state that doesn't allow for that.
	It's really kind of simple.
	By the way, before I get uh get into this full throated, Linda, I hope you don't mind.
	But you know those come on videos that I do?
	Yes.
	Come on.
	You know, I yell that thing if they just do something stupid like today, Joe Biden got up in the middle of an interview and just walked off the set, and I yelled, come on at the end.
	We've But that was the only time I agreed with him.
	I mean, if you were sitting with Nicole Wallace, wouldn't you get up and walk out?
	Yes.
	I I I again I I think that you and I are aligned with that.
	Uh, but it was a great, is a great little video to grab, and then I yell come on at the end of it.
	Do you know that since election day last year, which isn't that long ago, I had 19,000 followers on Instagram.
	We've got 193,000 now, just from the come on videos.
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	The one that I did today, I had to hold for a day.
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	So back to these decisions.
	Yesterday we we also had the decision that affirmative action or basically racism in America is not okay.
	You can't be a racist against white people, can't be a racist against Asians.
	Because we had institutionalized racism on against white people and Asians for a very long time now, for I think four decades since affirmative action showed up.
	And the Supreme Court said, you know, this isn't the American way.
	We literally have laws that say equal opportunity is the law of the land.
	The Fourteenth Amendment says do process equal treatment.
	And the fact is there were too many Asians at Harvard for some reason, and Harvard said there are too many Asians here.
	Of course there weren't too many, it's just that's how many applied and were qualified.
	And we but well, you know, uh the black person should get a a leg up in North Carolina over the white person.
	Well, why?
	And I've got Burgess Owens at the bottom of this hour, who's gonna talk about affirmative action and that ruling from yesterday.
	He's a U.S. representative, great state of Utah, District 4, Republican for the great state of Utah, happens to be black, he's an NFL champion, and he's a guy that hates affirmative action.
	And he opened my eyes in this conversation, and you'll hear this as well, to the fact that it's racist two ways.
	First of all, it was racist to have affirmative action against the people like white people or Asians, whomever it was that was being used against, but it was also racist against black people because black people have been institutionally told you're less than.
	You need the government's help to succeed.
	Now we know that's not true.
	If you look at sports, can you imagine we did affirmative action in sports?
	I'm a 56-year-old white guy.
	You've got to put me in the NBA because affirmative action.
	How stupid would that be?
	The NBA is almost 80% black, not because they're black, it's because they're the best players available.
	And that's the way it should be.
	Meritocracy has always been the way of the United States of America.
	For some reason, for four decades, we said meritocracy in sports or meritocracy in this other thing, but not meritocracy and anything else.
	And it literally was telling black people and brown.
	We say black and brown today, the left made up.
	You gotta say black and brown or people of color.
	Or or BIPOC, for God's sakes, whatever that is.
	But for some reason, the government has convinced themselves and I guess these communities that you're less than, and without our help, you aren't as good as white people.
	You aren't as good as Asian people.
	Which of course is a lie.
	Of course you are.
	Now, if there are too few black people or brown people, whatever label we're putting on them in any college, any setting, any job at a university, why wouldn't we go to those communities and find out why that's happening?
	Why aren't they uh achieving to the level that they could?
	Is it because their schools suck in their neighborhood?
	Probably.
	Is it a public school?
	Yep.
	Is school choice available?
	No.
	Why not?
	School choice would help lower uh more impoverished and lower income areas, high crime areas better than rich areas.
	Rich people can afford to send their kids to a private or a charter school.
	So let's go and find out why there isn't more representation in these schools, and let's not force it, because forcing it isn't getting more qualified people, it's just making you feel better about DEI or ESG or something else.
	That's stupid.
	So the the affirmative action ruling yesterday was amazing.
	And then today we wake up and go, well, wait a second.
	They actually said you have to pay back a loan that you took out?
	Yeah.
	The Supreme Court today said, no, the executive branch doesn't have the right to cancel student loans.
	You know who knew this going in?
	Take a guess.
	Right.
	The executive branch.
	They knew that going in.
	Why did they do this whole student loan thing to begin with?
	And why did they do it before the last election?
	That was weird.
	Oh, because they knew that people who wanted their student loans relieved or forgiven would then vote for the people who promised they would do it.
	People who promised they would do it knew they couldn't do it.
	The executive branch has no ability to just spend money or allocate money.
	It has to happen in Congress.
	You want to cancel student loans?
	I don't.
	But if you want to, you've got to do it through the House of Representatives, which holds the the purstrings.
	Then they have to get agreement from the the Senate.
	The Congress has to do this together, then send it to the president who would then sign it.
	The Department of Education can't do it.
	The executive branch can't do it.
	And let me say it again very clearly.
	Even if you're the biggest Biden fan out there, he lied to you, or he was told to tell you a lie, maybe he didn't know what he was saying, but he lied to you and pretended that he could forgive student loans.
	And he couldn't.
	Then you've got people like Elon Omar out there who's uh decrying this.
	AOC is decrying this.
	Why?
	I'm still paying my mortgage.
	Why do I have to pay my mortgage?
	I feel as though my mortgage should be relieved and forgiven.
	Of course it's not gonna be, because I signed a contract that said I promised to pay this back.
	And by the way, it wasn't like you you got a bunch of money in loans for student for your education and then didn't get the education.
	You did.
	You borrowed the money, signed the paper, you got the money, you handed it to the institution, you got the education.
	Now it's up to you to do something with it, make enough money to pay back the loan.
	Why was this ever an option?
	And by the way, the executive branch can delay it, which is what Trump did, which is what Biden did, but they can't cancel it.
	And if they want to cancel it, they've got to have a move in Congress to make that happen.
	You know who knows a whole lot more about this than I do, it's Greg Jarrett.
	We'll have him coming up after the break.
	But let me give you just a couple of quick sound bites.
	Uh Joe Biden, the president, the resident of the White House, sat down with Nicole Wallace on MSNBC yesterday, and it was about the Supreme Court and how unbelievably radical I guess it is.
	Some of your former Senate colleagues on the Judiciary Committee would go as far as to say that it's anti democratic.
	Do you agree with that?
	Well, you know, if I say it's anti-democratic, then it gets all the time.
	But but it it is it's its value system is different.
	And it's it's respect for institutions is different.
	And in that sense, it is uh it is not as embracing of of all what I think the Constitution says we hold these truths we sell that all men and women are created equal, endowed by their creator.
	It's a uniqueness Of America.
	We never fully lived up to it.
	We never walked away from it.
	And this court seems to say that no, that's not always the case.
	The idea there's no right of privacy in the Constitution giving state's power that we fought a war over in 1860.
	You know, I I just think it's um this is not your father's Republican party.
	Man, there's so much there.
	There's there is so much there.
	I'm gonna go through a quick thing because I want to get Greg on here after the break.
	Number one, we didn't fight a war in 1960 for for anything.
	I don't know what he's talking about.
	Number two, we hold these truths to be self-evident and and you know, we're all created equally, you know, by the creator.
	Uh that that's not in the Constitution.
	It's in it's in this it's in the the uh Declaration of Independence.
	Nicole Wallace is giggling like a schoolgirl who's got a who's got a crush, which is kind of weird too.
	But he talks about how they've got a different value system.
	Right.
	This Supreme Court's value system is everybody is created equally and should get an equal shake.
	You get an equal shake by by using meritocracy and not by handing somebody something they didn't earn.
	And yes, we think that unborn children should have an equal shake, and their life does represent something as well.
	So that entire thing was confused that he said.
	I guess they told him a few talking points and he forgot and you got them confused, and he's confusing her documents as well, and the interviewers just giggling the whole time.
	Well, you should giggle if you want if you want to be in the side of righteousness, if you want to be on the side of equality, if you want to be on the side of equal opportunity, you want to be on the side of democracy and a system that works for us.
	This court is undoing some wrongs that have been in place for a long time.
	We're gonna break that down with Greg Jarrett, political analyst and legal analyst from Fox News Channel.
	He's also got a great book out called Trial of the Century.
	He's gonna come on this program, the Sean Hannity show when we come back.
	Keep it here.
	Great to have you, 1-800-941 Sean.
	It's Joe Paggs in for Sean Hannity.
	Today I want to welcome my friend Greg Jarrett, political and um and legal analyst from Fox News Channel's book is out.
	It's called uh trial of the century.
	Greg, how are you?
	Good to talk to you again.
	Hey, it's good to be with you, Joe.
	Good to be with you always.
	Yeah, well, you know, it's it's an absolute pleasure.
	Your knowledge was so needed today.
	You've got Biden and the left in this country pretending like the Supreme Court somehow is going against every value that we have.
	When Greg, in my opinion, they're restoring the values that were taken away by some of the radical rulings that happened before.
	Do you see it the same way?
	Yeah, I think that's true, even and especially so with respect to affirmative action yesterday.
	The latest Pew poll shows that three quarters of Americans uh think it's wrong to have affirmative action dictate who gets into colleges and universities.
	Uh and so you you know that's that's a red herring when critics of the Supreme Court make that claim.
	Yeah, you had somebody like Whoopi Goldberg yesterday, I'm not sure if you saw this, who was so beside herself, she she looked at the camera and said, Why are y'all afraid of us?
	Greg, I'm confused.
	I've got Burgess Owens coming up, who's uh, of course, a U.S. representative, a black man who was a champion in NFL football, who was against affirmative action because he says it's literally racist against black people telling them to their faces you're not as good as everybody else, so you need the government to help.
	Yeah, I mean, eliminating racial discrimination, as the chief justice said, means eliminating all of it.
	The answer to discrimination is not more discrimination, the answer is less.
	And look, this was a case uh the original case was 1978, uh, Regents versus Bachy.
	And I I remember my professor at the time, I was in school said, write a paper justifying affirmative action under the Constitution.
	And I labored over this thing for a couple of months, and I tried to come up with every creative argument in the world.
	And in the end, I concluded it is unjustifiable.
	Affirmative action is in clear violation of the 14th Amendment equal protection clause.
	And finally, belatedly, after 45 years, uh that judgment has been vindicated.
	Yeah, and I'm so glad that it has been, because now we should examine why it is that fewer black students attend certain universities and colleges.
	Yes, you certainly can't discriminate against Asians because they're applying and uh and are are uh they've got the credentials To get in, they're qualified.
	So this will now hopefully open up our eyes to okay, why is it that black communities are not getting the proper education to be ready for colleges and opportunities like this?
	That's what we should have done from day one, right?
	Yes, and and depending upon the answer, then undertake efforts to try to correct that.
	But you know, as I say, the answer is not to check a box uh based on the color of your skin, your granted admissions.
	Uh, you know, that that just creates, as I say, more and more discrimination, which is not the answer.
	And so, you know, make no mistake about it.
	Um race will still creep into applications.
	High school counselors, I'm sure, will immediately begin telling their students that in your application, make sure that your essay opens with the line about your race and the discrimination you've suffered.
	Right.
	Uh, and so that's how they're gonna get around it, but at least there's no more box checking.
	I've got less than a minute with Greg Jarrett, political and uh and legal analyst from Fox News Channel.
	His book is called Trial of the Century.
	Greg, just very quickly, the the the whole idea to forgive a loan or a student loan was something the executive couldn't do, that would be something that Congress would have to do.
	Is this one dead and gone or is that gonna keep on coming up?
	No, I think it's dead and gone in terms of uh a president by fiat simply forgiving 430 billion dollars in loan for a million Americans.
	Uh when when Biden made that decision, I was on Fox and I said this will get struck down.
	It's a clear violation of the Heroes Act, but more than that, it's the authority of Congress tax and spend and assuming debt that the president does not have, only the legislature under the Constitution.
	The amazing Greg Jarrett of Fox News political and legal analyst, go to his website, get his book.
	It's called Trial of the Century.
	Greg, thanks for making time.
	Appreciate you, brother.
	Any time, Joe.
	Okay, we're we're on the Sean Hannity show.
	We've got Burgess Owens coming up.
	He, of course, a U.S. representative, great state of Utah, former athlete, has a lot of opinions on affirmative action going away.
	Keep it here on the Sean Hannity Show.
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	Right, thanks a lot for stopping by.
	Really glad to have this man back.
	He's a friend of mine.
	He's a U.S. representative, uh, District 4 Republican, great state of Utah.
	It's Burgess Owens.
	Burgess, how are you?
	Good to see you.
	I'm doing great.
	Good to see you, my friend.
	Looking forward to this conversation with you.
	It's a great day for us to have this conversation because you and I agree that racism in any form in this country is wrong.
	We know that.
	We we became fast friends because we're like-minded, and I don't care what your background is, you don't care what my background is.
	It's interesting to talk about, but it it doesn't, it didn't change how we would get along as human beings.
	For some reason, affirmative action's been around for decades, a really long time, which basically says we're gonna judge you on your race first, and then we'll worry about meritocracy, whether you have experience, whether you have the knowledge.
	And they've been doing this for a long time.
	Today there was a ruling at the Supreme Court that no Harvard, you can't be racist against Asians, and no some other school in North Carolina, you can't be racist against white people.
	And Burgess is I think it's a win, but the left is freaking out.
	What do you think?
	Well, they're freaking out because they're those are the races.
	You have to understand what it comes down to.
	And keep this in mind, Joe, affirmative action only works in the realm of intelligence.
	We don't see it in basketball, we don't see it in football, is by based on meritocracy.
	You don't see it in swimming.
	What it what it comes down to when the the the white elitists think that they're much smarter than another race, then what they do is they they they encourage that race to think of themselves as lesser.
	So the whole thing of action, keep in mind when he when he got started.
	At that point in the 60s, the black community, because we're dealing with meritocracy, because we knew that that's the only way to command respect.
	We led the country in the gross middle class, men matriculating from college, men committed to marriage and percentage of entrepreneurs.
	Think about that.
	We're on the total bottom of that now, 50 or 60 years later, because of affirmative action, because now we've been trained as a race to be angry, to be victims, to think that we can't perform.
	I've I've heard this this concept that all of a sudden we're not going to have blacks that can go into get in these colleges.
	So we're saying, in essence, if you're black, you don't have the intelligence through meritocracy to win against these white people.
	We're hearing now that that the affirmative action is going to take away options for ladies because they cannot get into college.
	I think it was I think it was a knucklehead and on the on the on the view that said zero women because of affirmative action.
	What it says is this.
	They're thinking now that women can't think as well as men, they cannot perform as well as men.
	It is a subtle racism throughout this entire process, and I'm so thankful that we're finally back to meritocracy, and we're gonna get uh get Americans across the country working hard to to to get there on their own merits on their own ability to perform, and that's gonna be a good thing for all of us.
	I love what you just said, because I think people are confused by by uh if you didn't say that, I think they would have been confused.
	Affirmative action was racist against everybody who was white.
	It just is, that's what it was.
	And then it turned out to be racist against Asians when it came to Ivy League schools.
	It also was inherently racist against black people because it said you are lesser than we the government have to help you.
	And and and the sports analogy is the perfect one.
	It's 80% black players in the NBA.
	You know why?
	They're the best players available, and the owners want to win games.
	If there were affirmative action, or if there were DEI or ESG in the NBA, they'd have to hire me, and I suck.
	So it it wouldn't make any sense.
	Burgess, that is so well said.
	Nobody today on the left will say what you just said, which is basically black people for 40 or 50 years have been told you're lesser than.
	That's right.
	And and and I tell you what, when you start to to buy into that, and generation after generation, and here's the biggest problem with this, Joe.
	Uh, we were able to get past white supremacy.
	And and if you go back in our history, just mentioned that.
	We did that because we knew who we're up against.
	The worst things that's happened to us is called black elitists.
	They're the ones that make all this money, they they've become very successful.
	All we have to do is be the care of the water for these racist that tell us we can't do it without them.
	So, no, we're we're in the right place.
	I tell you, I was in the car, Joe, when this came on.
	If I could have stood up, I would have done so.
	I couldn't stand up, so I just clapped.
	Good.
	Because this was so exciting to me to finally, 50 years from now, we're gonna start to see that this was the turning point that the black community, that's the Hispanic community, the Asian community start being able to compete and showing what it was to succeed.
	It's hard work, it's being nice to people, is thinking outside the box, getting back up again when you fall flat on your face.
	These are basic concepts of success, not the color of your skin.
	And by the way, here's another thing.
	They were they are uh discriminating against Asians.
	Asians are competing because they they have a family unit, they understand what it is to succeed.
	And guess what they do?
	They they they start taking away their opportunities because I guess they're too white.
	I don't know.
	Maybe they're too white.
	It's very strange.
	And because they are too white, then they can't no longer be part of this minority group that everybody else is that wants to just succeed and go and move forward.
	So it it it is it is a crazy way of thinking.
	Know that the left, this is taking away their power and this is good to drive them nuts.
	So start to hear some very crazy things coming from these people because it is not about logic, it's not about fairness, it's truly about a racist view of what other people cannot do and what they they feel they can.
	District 4 Republican great state of Utah, it's Burgess Owens.
	You know, Burgess it it it to me, if there is a lack of a certain community getting a college education or making it uh, you know, up to the next level, let's examine that.
	If there are not enough black people or fewer black people than you see in other another race categories, let's figure out why that is.
	Are the schools failing in those local communities?
	Are is the nuclear family falling apart?
	Are people telling them that they're less than so they don't think they can get out and go do something?
	It always jumps out at me that when Tiger Woods became the star golfer on the planet, tons of young black people said, Hey, I can play golf.
	So why don't we go and examine why they're not making the same moves as Asians or whites or Hispanics or whomever, and then fix it at the core.
	You don't just hand them something for free later, because you're not helping Anybody other than the numbers look better.
	Well, the reason why is because it's been the left is that's had their thumb on the black community.
	Keep in mind this, uh Joe.
	2017, the Department of Education, California, 75% of the black boys cannot stand past standard reading and writing tests.
	That is on purpose.
	So then those same kids are then by affirmative action put into these colleges.
	They have not been competing, have not been learned how to think and uh and to articulate, so they fail there too.
	So now this is the best thing to have happened.
	By the way, this is what brought our country together, meritocracy through uh sports and military, the 40s, 50s, and 60s.
	That's how our country started to come together because we were forced to look at each other in the right way when the end game is to win.
	So we're gonna get back to that.
	When we want the best talent, make sure our business is running the best way, our teams are uh are succeeding the best way, all of a sudden it is the talent that counts.
	I don't care what color they are, what religion they are, yeah, how how big or uh tall they are, if they're getting the job done, they're gonna get the job.
	So thank goodness for Asians, for for blacks, for Hispanics, uh we are now for America, and we're now taking away one of the greatest tools that the left has had, which is hopelessness.
	They they thrive on hopelessness.
	Uh they they every if if there's a strategy for for misery, that's their strategies for getting forward moving forward.
	That's what the left does.
	We've taken away one of their planks and we're gonna move forward.
	I'm so excited about this opportunity to see it happen.
	Owens.house.gov is his website, it's uh U.S. Representative Burgess Owens.
	What do you say to somebody like Whoopi Goldberg?
	That's a racist elitist.
	No, Whoopi has a lot of people.
	She's in that group.
	Yeah.
	Whoopi has a job because she's a black person who talks the way she talks about.
	You have to understand there is a sector within the black community that's become very wealthy, very powerful.
	All they have to do is keep our race down.
	All they have to do is instead of saying, if I can do it, you can do it, they say I can do it, but guess what?
	I am special.
	I cannot, you can't do what I did.
	So we're gonna make sure we lower the bar, make sure you're dumber, you're you're less hopeless, you're hopeful, and some kind of way you're gonna come through and be successful.
	And they and and they would never do that to themselves or their children, by the way.
	So what it comes down to is very simply this.
	We need to start when it comes down to college, let's get choice in the in the picture.
	Let's make sure our kids have a chance to go to the best high schools, to teach them to go to the train them to go to the best colleges, and all of a sudden you're gonna have this competition that has not been seen in higher education.
	You just made an I have to stop you because you just made an amazing point.
	School choice does not benefit rich white people.
	School choice benefits the lower income areas that have horrible public schools.
	And why wouldn't the left who they pretend to champion these people?
	Why wouldn't they be the first ones out there saying, of course, we should give them an opportunity to get a a different education if this one's failing them?
	Why would they be against that?
	Well, you said pretend uh that's you have to understand the left.
	And can I say this to all my my democratic friends out there?
	Uh there are many of us, we might stay on the other side of the aisle together, but we have the same end game, which is we make sure our kids have a much better future, make sure we have businesses that succeed, make sure we can we can talk to each other and respectfully agree to disagree.
	There is a hardcore leftist called Marxism that does not believe this.
	They want to destroy everything they can touch.
	And the best way they can get power is to shrink the middle class so we're no longer have that inset, that's self-sufficiency.
	We know how that idea we can go out and build our dreams.
	We have no we know have the idea that we don't need the government.
	We shrink that middle class, which is really where our cultures develop and leave it with elitists and the poor who are hopeless and envious.
	That's what they want to do.
	So people like like uh whoopy, she is a part of the problem.
	It's not women it's not white women's uh uh uh uh white uh supremacy, yeah, it's black elitism that's been our biggest problem.
	And we're gonna get past that because all of a sudden blacks across the country are waking up and realize we don't need these guys.
	We're gonna go out and vote for our best self self-interest, doesn't matter what the color is skin, if they're black or white person is against our community and against our success, we do not support them anymore.
	That's that's where we're heading off to.
	I'm excited about that.
	And they are very fearful that they're losing their power because of things that are.
	Well, they are.
	They're losing their power, so they have to find more white supremacy that doesn't exist.
	They have to find more negativity that doesn't exist, they have to find more fill in the blank that doesn't exist, because they've got to have a boogeyman.
	And the black community, as you said, is waking up, more of voting conservative, because they are generally speaking conservative people.
	Can I say this, Joe?
	Please what the left has no idea.
	They don't understand the DNA of Americans.
	We are hopeful people.
	We are we're folks that believe in grit.
	We believe in having big dreams and make sure our kids have a great future.
	They forget this because they have no idea.
	This it's a godless ideology That has no clue about what a vision is all about and how we can move forward throughout our obstacles.
	So fact is they don't get it.
	They never will.
	But we do, and what's happening when they is they attack us, and right now they're attacking our children.
	We start coming together, and we the people together, no matter what side of the hour we're on, we're gonna figure out a way to succeed and get past this hard left Marxist that hates everything we stand for.
	Yeah, I'm with you.
	And I couldn't I couldn't have said it better myself.
	It's Burgess Owens.
	He is a U.S. representative district four of Utah.
	Let's go into athletics for a moment.
	I had Riley Gaines on the other day.
	We become fast friends.
	She's doing a great job in front of Congress testifying that of course men and women are different.
	Um I'm 56.
	You've seen my cheesy Instagram you know videos of me lifting weights.
	There isn't a woman out there who's in her twenties in her twenties that could outlift me.
	And I'm old and tired.
	Right, Joe.
	I gotta give it to you, buddy.
	You're way past my my school.
	Don't know about that.
	I think you're probably stronger than I am, but uh you're an NFL champion.
	But but having said all of that, I mean, for God's sakes, why can't we stop this make-believe that these aren't men that are competing against women?
	And aren't we just eliminating women's sports completely if we continue doing this?
	Well, you're you're using common sense, and that's what not the hard left, uh, keeps in mind.
	Keep in mind that that we're now talking about something that we all understand.
	Anybody, uh anybody I don't at any age and realize there's a difference here.
	Yes.
	There's something else you have to keep in mind though.
	Not only they're trying to eliminate women's sports and demean women themselves, they're also trying to demean men.
	You see, when you have men that go through and see women not being protected, not giving the support they need, not given the opportunities they that they need, but they're cowardly sitting around.
	We've lost manhood.
	Yes.
	So not only are stealing womenhood from us, an idea that they can succeed and and grow and get the character that we all grip get through through through sports, but they're taking away the core values of man, which is to stand up, man up, and protect those that that really define our nation.
	Yes.
	Women defines who we are as a culture, and we're gonna sit back and let them take advantage of that.
	It's not gonna happen.
	And I'll tell you, my dad's generation would think this is ludicrous.
	It would be crazy to think that you're gonna have women boxing men, wrestling with men, racing men, just because I wake up one day and say, guess what?
	I am.
	It doesn't work that way.
	Are we winning the argument though?
	Uh you know I've got five daughters, right?
	If a six-foot-four man went into the girls' locker room and took his pants off, he'd have to deal with me.
	That period, end of story.
	Are we winning?
	Are we starting to wake people up to the fact that this this guy, Leah Thomas, who's a foot taller than Riley Gaines, was naked, full frontal nudity, fully equipped man in front of the women, but he said he was a woman and he was able to swim against them and undress in front of them.
	That used to be prosecutable.
	And as I tell you what was happening, uh, these guys, because they don't know when to stop, they have no clue when to stop.
	They're very progressive.
	They don't realize they just crossed a line, a red line that parents are not gonna stand for.
	Parents will not allow these leftists to attack and uh and abuse our children.
	Yes.
	They're not gonna let these leftists take our third and fourth euro's and and have have these grown men doing crazy stuff that we know is not right.
	So no, that they they've they're they've it was it jump the shark, is that the term that used to be used?
	Yes.
	They've gone way way too far.
	And here and here's the deal.
	We're also gonna call out these so-called men that have to look to their daughters to find out what courage looks like.
	It is time for us to call these whiners, wings, and wimps who stand by and let their daughters be abused and taken advantage of, and they sit back, there's nothing going on.
	Right.
	These this is the problem is it's not just the fact we have this hard left, we have these whiny, wimpy men who call themselves men that will not stand up for their girls and their and their and their wives and their daughters.
	Well, you're absolutely right.
	I mean, in Seattle recently, we just saw a bunch of naked men showering in the public square.
	Nobody did anything, and in New York City, as you know, they were chanting, we're coming for your children.
	And said I would just say we're just telling a joke.
	You don't get to chant you're coming for my children and then not have me react.
	Well, that's old school, and we're gonna get back to that again uh within our DNA.
	You know, we're we're the kind of society, we live in this little freedom bubble.
	We go out and build our dreams and and our and our goals, and we kind of forget that there's in there's evil on our doorstep.
	Well, once that door is open, 9-11 uh uh uh uh Pearl Harbor, yes, right now uh COVID, now we see it.
	We're gonna come out and we're gonna start and we have to do that.
	That is fight for our kids, make sure they have a great future, fight for their security, for the self-esteem, uh, to protect them from these these crazy sexual predators is what they are.
	Yeah.
	Uh we're gonna protect them from that.
	We're not gonna allow our kids to be mutilized, uh taking their way their ability to have children one day because they're kids and had no idea.
	This is gonna stop because we now see it.
	And uh, we're all in.
	We're gonna make sure make sure that this this changes, Joe, in a big, big way.
	Uh Let's do it again very soon, my man.
	Thank you.
	Have a great day.
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